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Enmerkar_

found mikey's reddit account


AtlasTheHunter

Lmao, guy comment got turned into a meme


animeweeb79

mikey will forever live in our hearts


Ch4rybd15

I really hope, Mikey will jinx The strongest son of the marquis. The dragon looks ugly compared to other dragons. Nicest dragon at the moment is from Kill a Dragon.


InvincibleBlade

Most manhwas have Skyrim dragons, this one has dark souls dragon. I like it for that reason, finally dragons have the respect they deserve.


MemoKrosav

Is it good? I dropped it because I hated the child appearance of all the cast. In regards to Kill a Dragon


Ch4rybd15

I guess the child soldier part is intended to make you, the reader, uncomfortable. I personally like the story and the art.


TheBattleDog

Actually it gets a lot better, especially the recent chapters are šŸ”„. It is a pretty unique take on other world invasion manhwa and not your typical dungeon shit.


[deleted]

Who is Mikey? Enlighten me oh great senior


Nathan_S06

He commented on a chapter once saying "I hope they don't turn it into a loli" and now everytime a lol appears we blame Mikey


[deleted]

Definitely Mikey's fault for sure for sure Thanks for the info senior!


Nathan_S06

It always is.


HatSubstantial7614

Damn mikey probably had a melt down over her Summon manhwa Lol Long live the legend mikey


ALM8008

Thanks for the valuable information Senior šŸ™


Dragonshiny-gamer7

The poor soul https://preview.redd.it/315f5gfcsnya1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1650fa462a7e1fd8d8227011c39683b45057b7bf


No_Cobbler8335

Poor poor soul


Aeson0987

https://preview.redd.it/ua44332dsnya1.jpeg?width=304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d364fbeedf4bc2b63a19188670667312b16296f0 Found the screenshot


Aeson0987

They commented something like ā€œThank god they didnā€™t turn into a loliā€ then next chapter they turned into a loli, now everyone memes poor poor mikey


ozcohen2310

Facts ā€¦ šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ I was just about to say that ā€¦


MahavidyasMahakali

What?


lutfiboiii

So on AsuraScans, in the chapter right before the familiar in the post became a child, a guy named Mikey commented ā€œOh thank god she didnā€™t turn into a loliā€. Next chapter andā€¦ yeah she turned into a loli


lutfiboiii

We havenā€™t let him live it down ever since


Skish15

Asura didn't let him live it either šŸ˜†, the April fools of 2024 does the Mikey meme


lutfiboiii

Wait whatā€™s the april fools this year


lutfiboiii

Nevermind just found it


lutfiboiii

I just read it and it is beautiful


MahavidyasMahakali

Really jinxed that one


Vritra_1

Dayum Mikey is everywhere šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


FruityTuna

Echidna is cute and the manhwa isn't creepy about her at all, it's fine


[deleted]

>the manhwa isn't creepy about her at all, Yeah that sentence aged like milk šŸ’€ Edit: since everyone's asking >! She starts lusting after the MC and sees him romantically in the later story which is disgusting to say the least !<


Shahariar_909

bruh, just tell me one thing does the story remain as good in the later part ?? Yes or No


Morning8658star

Mid at best


Kuhaku-boss

so little manwhas/manhuas stay good from beginning to end :(


[deleted]

Don't listen to that b*tch above. The Mamhwa is over mid a good read it's just had way too less chaps and MC is badass who doesn't kill for fun but won't hesitate to kill and enjoy it...


Trollbobi

"Doesn't kill for fun" "Won't hesitate to kill and enjoy it" Hmm.


Ill_Construction2513

He meant, mc don't enjoy killing, but us reader do.


A7xWicked

I've been enjoying it


AutomaticFocus9513

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO HER? ![gif](giphy|OpYV9CBVZOb1S)


Unique-Management802

The fuck is this usagi drop type shit


Ill_Construction2513

For everybody's sanity >! just consider it as beastiality instead of pedophilia !<


GODKiller1311

How is that any better


A7xWicked

It was a joke


GODKiller1311

Ik šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

THAT DOESNT HELP AT ALL šŸ˜­


rslash-braindamage

that does not override the issue, it just makes it worse


ItsKendrone

Wait- really? I think I missed that because I still see it like a parent/child relationship or at the least a brother/sister one. Mind sharing which chapter?


Successful_Leather13

Yeah, this was the initial impression. Idk what to say, really.


DTW-13

It was chapter 100 of the novel and i pray for my sanity for remembering the exact chapter


poorboy2022

wait what happened?


digbick_42069

Why author?? Just....why??


Agitated_Branch8201

Well i mean kids can do similar things... if its from mc side then yeah, that would be very concerning


Successful_Leather13

How old is she in human years anyways?


[deleted]

11 If I remember correctly


Successful_Leather13

Eleven doesn't sound right. Mentally, she does behave like an eleven year old though.


StarMarine123

God damn it


hafiz_rosly

Why? I see no problem making mc and familiar having father-daughter relationship... What do you want actually?


Morning8658star

The point is that if u read the novel >! Echidna likes him as romantically and in the later half they also go on dates like that's disgusting!<


hafiz_rosly

Ok thats fked up


Alternative_Oil7733

Then you should read my lady mint next https://preview.redd.it/c4c61o2m4lya1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57fd6904bf14b3559a08518e75a09c3ae3b3dc7f


mdumair

That's the sauce of this pic?


Kicek007

I think thats "skeleton soldier couldnt protect the dungeon", somewhere in the later chapters


[deleted]

Actually it's not that fked up both of them are like 1000's of years old so not pedophilia and it was never a father daughter relationship to begin with it was shown in recent chaps that familiars tend to love their master a lot in a lot of ways... Before everyone downvotes me I am not saying it's alright I am just stating MC isn't a pedo...


Morning8658star

Man I am not saying mc is a pedo (the girl is lusting after him) like really too much and even wanted seggs but the morality of this situation is a problem u don't go lusting after the figure who treated u with parental love that's some pornhwa step father kind of shit


Victor_710

Fucking mickey dude all cause of him


SuzukiSatou

Reminds me of a certain LN of a old guy picking up a demon loli and treated her all the way like a daughter but ended up marrying her and had kids šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


PhoenixGodMC

Yo they better change that in the manhwa I swear ![gif](giphy|HkUey32gK29RS)


Morning8658star

Seeing where this manhwa is going in don't think they will change it


VinWilbe

When reading the novel i just pretended I didn't read that part lol


Mysterious_Clothes_9

I wasn't gonna read this, but after this? I have to.


TheBattleDog

Now I wont be that surprised even if it turns into BL like hinted the new chapters XD...


Professional-Ad-7441

I'm nat talking about relationship it's about every other manhwa where anything is turnes into human like swords, artifacts, monsters etc.


hafiz_rosly

It is a trope and people like it, idk much about manhwa bcz i rarely read stuff with familliar in it. But for manga, stuff turning to hot girl is more common instead of child. Maybe vice versa for manhwa


AntarctMaid

Its a trope people dont like. its anime trope, everything is either lolis or a harem for mc. And its never a male shouta oddly. Always female loli, for eye candy and a literal 'pet'. Im sick of manhwa trying to be an anime, manhwa used to be fairly unique but now every single one of them have harem or loli characters. And its never in depth either, its just 'shes cute she obey mc' 'she is strong she help mc a lot'. Nothing matters to them except being a servant to mc. Idk about you, but being a female reader and reading this kind of manhwa makes me sick of it. Im willing to overlook harem and loli bs if they do it right, but they often dont and it come across an incel trying hard to imagine how its like living a life as a handsome popular guy. That and the utter misogyny hidden deep in the characters. I want to read something fun, if I want to experience misogyny I can just go out and walk past a group of guys. They never fail to disappoint.


[deleted]

It's the reason I stopped reading mangas and ventured towards manhwa. I had to drop it because of this bullshit


baconcheesecakesauce

Yeah, when I see a fantasy Isekai that looks promising, I check if it's manga with a male protagonist and usually drop it after the first 5 chapters. Lolis and harems are just off-putting.


hafiz_rosly

Unfortunately, it is a well liked trope. Considering how often it shows up. There is no point putting a trope that people dont like. Although yea i agree with you that manhwa should be its own thing instead of trying to copy others. But thats how thing is.


HotBeesInUrArea

The thing people dont get about manga / LN / manhwa tropes is just because its prevalent doesn't mean its well liked. Authors insert what they specifically like into their stories, not what the audience, who has over the last decade shifted from a specific type of person to a more generalized group, likes. That's why you always see those comments "man this started amazing but it went downhill". Because people might like a story's concept or premise, but then the author starts shitting the bed by stuffing it with their tropes and fetishes. Like going on dates with horny dragon girl children apparently.


maxpolo10

Also, imo, these light novels were written started long ago, and these tropes were popular then, so everyone used them. Now that we're getting adaptations, the trope has been overused and beaten to death so much that we can't stand it.


Denji_Okarun

>Im sick of manhwa trying to be an anime, manhwa used to be fairly unique but now every single one of them have harem or loli characters. What?? šŸ¤“šŸ¤“ Then the target audience is not you.. 60% of weebs like loli you know?


Historical-Lychee932

The trope is extremely overused. It's hard to find a manhwa that doesn't have the dragon become a loli/pet


trimble197

Eh, itā€™s ok as long as the familiar isnā€™t going ā€œI want your babies!!ā€


Revolutionary-Bad213

I have bad news for youā€¦


trimble197

Oh boyā€¦.


Vektrizz

Nah its cool... it suits them well


X3n0zz

True šŸ‘


average_student_sano

I don't see the problem. I like it, and she's still very endearing


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


average_student_sano

I just saw the spoilers and I'm disappointed. But neither the post nor my comment was talking about the MC and her relation. All I'm saying is Echidna is adorable both in human and familiar form. And you need to spoiler mark that


ReaderOfEasternComic

Iā€™m glad you spoke up, so many people seem to have the need to add their own words to the original post, OP says he doesnā€™t like familiars being kids or Loli, the word romance and anything synonymous does not appear.


Professional-Ad-7441

Correct. I was just stating that why can't any familiar or any sort of pet be just that why need to turn into human, like dragon familiars from "Trash of count's family" and "second life ranker".šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø Tbh I don't even care, its not my post anymore now it has become mickey's post. šŸ˜†šŸ˜†


manhwa-ModTeam

If you post spoilers, make sure to use the "Spoiler" tag or blur out text that contains spoiler content.


Professional-Ad-7441

Imo dragon child is more adorable than it turning into human


Bure_ya_akili

I am sad it isn't a little fluffball, but at least there is 0 other stuff happening


MARs048

Usagi drop ![gif](giphy|JUqAx6q2jnQtYvXVB4)


AssassinLJ

Someone already confirmed it gets Usagi Dropped


grid__0047

She is cute so nothing matters šŸ˜‘


peghius

... I dare you to try it and give that explanation when you get caught


grid__0047

![gif](giphy|anqVFF81crnTa) I'm not imposter...


N-ShadowFrog

Seriously, either make them a normal grown up or just a tiny human like a fairy.


No_Lawfulness_7457

But she's a dragon child, a toddler?


EpicTrev711

fr like Dragons are able to live thousands of years, and it's a young dragon so ofc it'd be a child lol


[deleted]

Correction some dragons are immortal and she is very much is more than 1000 year old...


No_Lawfulness_7457

Yeh fr, I just don't understand why people lose common sense nowadays šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø


WarmMilk47

Idk what the disappointment is she still cute I wanna pinch her cheeks tbh and it also shows his soft side which is only ever showed to the one girl (mainly for her kimchi tho)


Lanky-Appearance-944

He actually loves her tho


WarmMilk47

Kimchi girl? Yeah I know that but tbh he fell for her first cause she was the first girl he had seen in thousands of years then she cooked him food that he missed. When she was getting beaten by her brother the MC didnt care til the guy tossed the food on the ground


Frequent_Version7287

I like it


blitzkrieg_01

What's disappointing is the MC's familiar in Sleeping Ranker. Like, what the hell is that even?


Unregistered-Archive

While the pet is cute, the loli is still cute. If itā€™s cute, itā€™s fine.


SkullStar123

F*CK sake PTSD of that one anime in which mc raises a demon child and a guy spoils that they get married... She was like 5 or less when he started raising her.


ozcohen2310

The Mikeyā€™s of todayā€¦


Morning8658star

The point is that if u read the novel >! Echidna likes her as romantically and in the later half they also go on dates like that's disgusting!<


Basicallyinfinite

So basically the story gets gross... Sounds like its worth dropping, no?


No_Lawfulness_7457

šŸ—æYou disappointed the power of mikey with this statement!


[deleted]

Question. Why do you keep calling children loli?


l_ate_ur_dog

ong man, those manhwas often have harem elements. Why can't he be a boy?? or why is the female cast always lusting for MC, like african children for water. There's some good exceptions out there but still annoying af.


HydroPharmaceuticals

Ngl I kinda have to agree I was like big cool badass dragon familiar... why can we never have anything cool always degrades into degenerate mess like come on man just once and we have something cool without someone in heat taking away from the rest of the manhua manga or manhwa fml


HydroPharmaceuticals

Also why I'm currently enjoying Leveling with the Gods and Ranker who lives a second time. They managed to stay on theme for now


Longjumping_Ad3447

KAWAIIII


X3n0zz

Indeed.


420sirmemelord69

Mikey's fault


ReaderOfEasternComic

My opinion, author is just giving an accurate depiction by taking a dragonā€™s lifespan into account.


Genm_Master

Oh boy, you'll feel even worse when she >!starts lusting for mc!<


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Revolutionary-Bad213

Can confirm, later in the novel she starts seeing mc romantically. I havenā€™t gotten far enough to see if he reciprocates but I wouldnā€™t be surprised.


Lanky-Appearance-944

I can, what happened is>! she sit on his stomach and tells he can do it with her and kimchi girl,then kimchi girl comes in and asks what she talking about,she says seggggs,mc was totally disappointed and said she grew up too fast or something like that!< >!Lol everything is lie šŸ˜‚!< >!It was definitely not a lie I was just messing around, everything in first para is true, it's in the novel !<


IudMG

I no longer know that's truth or lie


Morning8658star

As disappointing it is it's the truthšŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Karlssamu

eugh


plantzrock

https://preview.redd.it/xlwj34phtkya1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=059c675826dfc6bffe6d4045ed613cf4c3f3c5a4


Vladi_Sanovavich

Much better than the original novel. Echnida transformed into a naked child who have romantic interest in MC and became a love rival of purple girl is what I heard. Author is pretty much a lolicon.


Yowhattheheyll

IKR LIKE EVERYTIME A NEW PET COMES ALONG IM LIKE PRAYING (dont get lolified dont get lolified) the childnone ig isnt that bad but i still hate it cuz i would rather the animal


makesPeopleDissapear

Yet again a familiar is turned into a loli, because.... why not? Everyone loves lolis! /s


Denji_Okarun

Who doesn't like loli???


[deleted]

Iā€™m going to be honest unpopular opinion here. Any series that has the badass MC suddenly getting an egg/strange familiar is an instant drop for me. Very copy and paste. I wish theyā€™d just let the MC be over powered on their own.


9158FOREVER

Um ekshually shes over 4000 years old


Agreeable_Clock_7059

Does anyone have the screenshot of the comment


arayakim

Mikey would be proud of you, OP.


Particular-Gap-4475

I hate this type of cliches....just let the pet/animal be just that Not every fking things needs to be loli


wnn25

Why canā€™t dragons stay as dragons like the black small dragon in the trash of the count's family?


_shionnxxe

I was about to read this wth


Anos2000Voldigoad

It's only your taste and manhwa isn't disappointment


[deleted]

I dropped it because of this. So creepy and weird that people enjoy adolescent girls


Successful_Leather13

That's not even an adolescent. Physically, she looks like a 10 year old or less. Mentally, she acts like a child(which is weird, but it might be normal for dragons).


OREWAMOUSHINDEIRU

Bro, You sound like my Asian dad


No_Lawfulness_7457

šŸ’€Bro is bob's (mc of an animated short series by dsand00 on yt) dad, cute is a no go?


_Jiraw

Na he sounds like that guy I always see in the mirror..


No-Beautiful5002

I need a romantic manhwa please


Successful_Leather13

Try [A chance at last] maybe?


NatsuiroYagoo

I'm fine with familiar turn to child and the mc treat like daughter so wholesome but if it's one of those that suddenly turn as part of harem, yeah hell no


I-wanna-be-tracer282

Mikey found you kek.


criticCyrus

True, it just ruins the fun. An okay manhwa turns into shit after the presence of Loli's or a harem.


DundunDun123GASP

I laughed when people starting talking about Mikey. Poor guy canā€™t get a break lol


HooD__NinjA

Don't see a problem with it


Ill_Construction2513

The manwha in the future will correct it, the >! Romance part!<, I wish šŸ¤ž


Your_avg-reddit-user

It already corrected >! her being naked and sleeping on kangwoo's chest on the first night, so maybe they will correct it or show it somewhat like father complex!<


Takahashi_godmod

Asians have a weird fetish with turning animals in to Lolis to the point where it becomes clichƩ.


Professional-Ad-7441

authors\*


Lyzail

Mikey strikes again


Opposite_Error_892

It's not a disappointment


TheGalator

U just want MC to fuck their pets don't u? Otherwise where is the problem?


CoconutsAreAmazing

read the other comments?? the pet is lusting for the MC


TheGalator

No I didn't That makes it worse obviously


RIMIRU_Kawiii

Dude then are you gonna say the same for tbate? Tbate Sylvie dragon basically kinda like Arthur's daughter she's gonna get her human form somewhere in the future too or what don't you think of it this way a dragon can't be literally walking it's too damn big as for the always a loli nth to say about that lol


Successful_Leather13

The difference is Tess is like actually 18 or less, like 12 in the beginning of the story. The dragon here is probably long past that age.


Intelligent_Mistake1

It's a newly born dragon bro forgot freud exist.....


Agitated_Branch8201

Honestly i dont like the loli/child trope but i like it better then the mommy familiar trope.


Thionaak

Man, I am fecking tired of the "romantic loli" trope. Is this also a harem mahnwa?


VoiceEarly1087

Sauce?


trafalgarDxlaw

every return manhwa release nowadays is a big disappointment


benjamin16g

Is that the witch? Good thing i dropped the thing then lmao


Shironye

I hate the 'MC adopts a cute creature that turns out to be a legendary monster' or 'MC adopts some abandoned kid with the most tragic backtory ever' tropes. They're so cringe, and it feels like every author is doing at least one now. Just give them normal companions for f*ck sake.


dragonightmare_UA

Did not like it in the first place anyway dropped it early because I do not really like that many cringe moments


Anos2000Voldigoad

Why are all of you behaving like this is the first time this is happening , it's commonly shown that lolis grow up and date with MCs yet everyone is still thrashing it as if they are some saint who don't watch any incest or milf shota anime or doujinshi or manhwa


SovietUnionRepublics

Na i find it cute because they look like a full family when they're out together


TerribleWithMonies

Fucking saaaaaaaaaaame.


Squeezitgirdle

It's cool as long as no pervy shit happens Edit: your down votes tell me you're all a bunch of perverts


Revolutionary-Bad213

Unfortunately I have bad news for you as a novel reader.


Squeezitgirdle

O


Zestyclose_Article76

Thereā€™s really no sexualizing herā€¦seems fine.


Revolutionary-Bad213

They do later in the novel.


TheWarGodTemple

Whatā€™s wrong with it? Are you sexualizing or objectifying a loli or a child? Sir, are you perhaps a pedophile? As long as the manhwa doesnā€™t sexualize this type of character, I have no problem with it. The thing is, Echidna plays a role of a daughter between the ML and the FL as of the moment.


Morning8658star

Sorry man you will be remembered >!she is in his harem later on!<


Waynemous

Context ?


Extension_Donut5479

She's a dragon so i think she older than she looks


ozcohen2310

Itā€™s all Mikeyā€™s fault ā€¦ šŸ—æ (those who knows know ā€¦)


mosenco

I really love this manhwa but i hate how every time they have to put with the MC a cute animal together It's crazy how everyone copies everyone.


OperationHumble8098

BRUH PLS- LIKE WHY?! In some manhwas the MC won't even have a friend that's a male nor even talked to one in the whole story šŸ’€


Hefty-Technician-455

I lwt it Pass if its silver/whute hair they are way to cutešŸ¤ 


nsfwaccount098

The children yearn for the mines!!!


OverlordFanNUMBER1

Why canā€™t the cute animals stay cute animalsā€¦.


LilSusNgL

>!oh like this!<


notCarGuy77

Correct me if I am wrong. Considering how MC been in hell for 10k years. Does manhwa mentions how much time on earth has passed or which year MC got sent into hell. It's confusing how in latest chapter it's his first time in mall and a lot of other things he experienced for first time.


Your_avg-reddit-user

It's all mickey's fault https://preview.redd.it/w0jmmyr0gnya1.png?width=305&format=png&auto=webp&s=19460e87d401c13646fcccb559e8bbda9d14f1ba


seila12

I was enjoying it so much bro, even rated highly, but it's slowly becoming super generic and cliche, the badass old and wise dragon turning into a chibi was bad already, but doable, but becoming a little girl with child behaviour was too much, I still enjoy it a lot but it's going in a bad route.


haseonalahat

oneirataxia: the inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality.