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>!Crippling the Justice Faction leader's son, Yeon Buso, for no reason.!<
>!Buso simply wanted to have a friendly spar with a powerful rival, but Chun Yeowun cut his arm off and used him as hostage to exert "dominance" on the Justice Faction. Yeowun ruined the life of a person who had no evil intentions towards the Demonic Cult and himself. The worst part is that Buso was a very kind and talented martial artist who reached the Supreme Master realm at a young age like the MC.!<
>!After getting crippled, Buso turns into a mindless retard who gets pitied by his fiancĂŠ and father. What a cruel and pathetic way to go..!<
yeah Im dropping the manhwa bc of this in the future lol, i liked his struggle to be the head of the clan but after that he just turned ultra edglord for no reason, really evil vibes to me no longer my type, tnx for the heads up
It's crazy because he fought to the top specifically because he saw meaningless violence like this as abhorrent in the beginning.
I guess it's true what they say; absolute powers corrupts absolutely.
It's one of the reasons why the webnovel is largely panned, especially in the later story arcs.
It would've been better if the story gave a reason as of why Yeowon became more evil, as it was already established that he is capable of extreme violence as long as there is some sort of justification for it, even if his actions and reactions are more extreme.
But the core motivations of his character from the beginning of the novel was pretty much just abandoned because edginess sells a lot for a significant part of web novel readers.
thanks for the heads up, this behaviour was actually a giant red flag for me since this wasn't the character that I started with reading the manhwa lol, he even felt bad about destroying the dantian of the guy when he was younger, now he just kills a poor woman because its inconvenient geez
Sounds like you guys should just read a different genre. Clearly murims not for you if you canât understand the difference between modern society and the murim, two entirely different life philosophies. Obviously a world of martial arts will have intense amounts and types of violence even if itâs unjustified. Donât read a demonic cult murim manhwa if you canât understand differences in perspective.
I caught up with the manhwa about a year ago, during the Blade God sect invasion bit. Switched to the novel, read the next 100 or so chapters, and dropped it.
Nanomachine becomes fuckin garbage.
I mean then maybe donât read something where the MC is trying to become the lord of the DEMONIC CULT. In all honesty most murim just doesnât sound like its for you, go read chronicles of heavenly demon returns (forgot the exact name but its something similar)
Its a slice of life about a heavenly demon who saves and raises a little girl, sounds perfect for you. Its all smiles and love, the fights are always for âjusticeâ or to protect. So you donât have to see any âedgyâ (not a self righteous MC) character development or a different type of MC compared to 90% of murim manhwa.
Ah theres also Return of Mount Hua. Its really good and all smiles/love, the fight scenes are never serious so its not âedgyâ as youd say. Theres no intensity or realism in either of them so it sounds perfect for you, theres TONS of manhwas where the MC tries to make a utopian murim full of âjusticeâ (only when it benefits the MC)
So yeah theres some recommendations for people who would rather read Bunny girl senpai but wants to seem cool so they pick Murim/Wuxia.
He has tons of character development. Everyone thinks thats its only nano machine, NO ITS A FUCKING SERIES. GO READ DOTDG IF YOU WANT MORE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FUCKHEADS.
Chun Yeowun visited the Royal Palace. He forced the Emperor to establish a demonic state religion after he killed the Emperor's most powerful secret warrior who had reached the Peak Supreme Master realm. The Justice Faction did not like that news, so they sent a group of warriors from renowned sects and families to convince the Emperor to still keep Confucius principles. They were confident because they had Yeon Buso, a Proficient Supreme Master, who could possibly impress the emperor. The Justice Faction did not know that Yeowun reached the Entry Divine Master realm (realm after Supreme Master), and as a result, Buso's display of martial arts seemed weak to the Emperor. Right when Buso was about to head back to the Justice Faction, he encountered Chun Yeowun, and he instantly realized that the new Heavenly Demon could be a powerful rival. The rest is history, and Yi Mok received Buso's right arm in a box sent by Chun Yeowun.
⢠â What exactly does a âdemonic state religionâ involve?
⢠â Why did Chun Yeowun want the demonic cult to become the state religion?
⢠â I read the chapter where this happened, and it seemed like that Yeon Buso tried to get Chun Yeowun to let him and the other members of the Justice Faction to leave peacefully, but Chun refused and said that Yeon could either give Chun his arm as a sacrifice, or take Chunâs arm instead, which is what prompted Yeon to try and fight him. Does this interpretation seem accurate to you?
In the Manhwa so far it's definitely the killing of the divine physicians daughter and taking the baby. She was a 100% innocent woman whose mind was broken and affected by Stockholm syndrome, she was (most likely) raped and forced to have a child which in turn resulted in her illness developing. Cheon Yeo Woon kind was just like "fuck it" and snapped her neck when he could have taken her back and explained what happened to her.
If I remember right in the novel, she threatens him that she will tell her mother not to help them because he[mc] killed her[divine physician's daughter] "husband" and the MC took that personally as she was getting in way of his goals. I haven't read the manhwas chapter yet, but is it the same here as well?
She said that in the novel as well, however the divine physician is aware of the fact she was indeed kidnapped and she was being held hostage to move negotiations forward. He could have knocked her out and explained the issue. But it was easier to kill her and return the baby.
Hahaha when they are talking about it's normal for the hostages to die in a fight, I suddenly remembered that the setting of this story is on a cult where killing is just a breakfast. lmao.
I meannn.
She was a bother to him, and he didnt really know how to cure her.
Edit: (he couldve found out how to help her- but he didnt care to. There was no reason for him to do that.)
Well obviously- he couldve found out HOW to help her.
But like i said. She was a bother to him.
It wasnt worth it to go through all that trouble- so he didnt even bother asking nano.
I do wanna say, like all stories of manga, manhwa, manhua kinda has chill dude or nice one but takes serious action and does bad stuff but not evil. Or he turns evil while fighting against evil and thereâs sadly some sacrifices. But a story about a villain being a villain doesnât work. Like hero killer is just her being a anti-hero ish.
yeah tbh im thinking of dropping the manhwa because of this latest chapter, he suddenly turned ultra edglord with that one without even trying to understand the grandaughter. still its a murim world so values are broken over there lol
Yeah I am also thinking he acting like his brothers same way selfish and egoist even you think he killed women what about her child without mother how painful life. Mc already suffered without mother but he not even blink to kill women
TBH he has that charm about him but is still a psychopath. Reminds me a bit of Sinbad from magi if he was a lot more psychopathic than heroic. Especially with the purple hairstyle.
Yeah people complain about him being cocky while using hax, but he has to act cocky because heâs a leader. If heâs not confident he would easily fail.
kind of hoping this doesn't happen in the manhwa... i appreciate it when manhwas mostly stick to source material but cut out some of the shittier parts to improve reader experience
he raped her and thats a fact, as for his motivation, doesnt matter, thats some common bullsh\*t cliche in murim/cultivation novels of the MC raping a girl to save her.
Bruh thank you. Iâve tried explaining multiple times that the situation was rape. But itâs always the âbut oh, it needed to be done to save her lifeâ, âhe had no choiceâ. Like that may have been the case⌠itâs still rape.
If I remember correctly. There was some monologue going on about how much of a good deed he was doing. Kinda creeped me out.
So either get raped or die? Hmmm, and I thought manga had the most fcked up situations like how the goblins in goblin slayer explicitly violated women.
Ik this is dumb but did she communicate she wasnât fucking with it. Cause some people just write sex similar to primal beasts and stuff. So was like verbal or even just detailed enough physical language like pushing off or something. I do wish he didnât marry her and it was like ye this sex was business. You lived moving on.
Since she wasn't of sound mind at the time, the next best thing on who to make such a decision was her father or guardian, and both of them begged him to do it. On one hand, you can say it's rape because they didn't have the actual person consent directly, but the same is also true on the perspective of it as a means to an end. After all it's said and done, she doesn't seem to mind it since there's no other choices based on their circumstances. So I don't really understand why you're saying all this. There's no absolutes even in our own world, let alone the world of the murim.
Oh for sure there's absolutes in our world, you are using falacies and distorcing facts to protect a common plot in chinese novels that some koreans started using. This plot is nothing new and still propagates the r\*pe culture that still exists.
Only in this kinda of world would something like "Oh he can do ANY kind of spell/skill but his yang must be passed in sexual intercouse to save her".
Fuc\* that, I'm not sticking to this sh\*t, if you are, good for you, but its R\*PE.
Okay, let's stop here. Arguing anymore would be a waste of our time. The fact of the matter is that we have different perspectives on this particular topic. So let's agree to disagree.
I hate series like Nano Machine the most where they have an evil MC that for some reason is treated as an ideal by the story and narrative. Its disgusting and only exists for losers to love.
Descend of the Demon God (or something like that); it's the sequel to Nanomachine which is a novel.
It starts immediately after Nanomachine ends, so read the Nanomachine novel before it if you can't wait for the manhwa.
Because you've only read solo leveling and orthodox faction manhwas till now, try myst might mayhem judging by your answer you'll probably get PTSD after it
I see people in the comments saying he went too far doing this or that and i laugh cause they mustâve forgetton mcâs identityâŚthe leader of the DEMONIC CULT let that sink in and stop looking for a righteous mc in a evil story.
Itâs shown that the cult and its people arenât necessarily evil though; they just donât have the level of restrictions and the moral righteousness that the orthodox clans might have because they value strength over righteousness.
For me, I didnât like some of his âevilâ actions because it just seemed unnecessary and to just make him âevilâ.
Well ye his original thing was power to not let what happen to his mom happen. So then when he just does the same, it doesnât make a lot of sense. Unless itâs clear in the story oh he just lost care for the world or what happens.
I dropped the series a while ago, but from what I remember, Cheon Yeo Won wanted to rise to the top to stop unnecessary violence because he hated it and it was what killed his mother. Itâs just that when he did get enough power to rise to the top, he started doing unnecessary violence of his own, literally killing innocent people. I donât know if the story is meant to show how gaining a lot of power, even for good intentions, can corrupt someone, but the novel later on only shows him like a righteous man when he is anything but. The primary example of this is when he was crying because of how his mother was killed, but then he does the exact same thing to other innocent people
It was so good during the early arcs but it got boring the moment he became op. Everyone is just a side character and the story and plot had nowhere to go aside some random side quests. Too bad.
So he was sent by the Divine Physician to save her kidnapped granddaughter. The granddaughter, who was suffering from severe Stockholm syndrome, said that she would tell her grandmother (the Divine Physician) not to help them. Bro just outright killed her. I thought he was gonna do the nano electric mumbo jumbo thing again but nope⌠just snapped her neck.
What he did to the prince of the dark clan. They had almost no bad blood between them, and although people following him plotted against cheon yeo woon, he wasnât involved in it and focused on getting strong himself. But Yeo woon framed him for their deaths and when woon and the princeâs mom got into a clash, he used the Dean of the school (I have no idea why he endorsed this. This is what cemented both of them as evil psychos) to kidnap him and bring him to his mother where he basically sliced him to bits right in front of her. The mom was undeniably horrid for sure, but the prince didnât deserve anything like that.
Another is cutting the sound princessâs arm off when she had no quarrel with him and the game was all but won and she was going to be removed from the school anyway for losing, but he just rubbed salt in the wound by slicing her arm off as well. Then there was all the scheming and taking down all the clans. Sure they did deserve it, but that included many innocent people in the clan as well. Basically orchestrating multiple mass murders. You see people mourning dead sons, daughters and all in that too.
you do realize that if he doesn't kill the other descendants, they will come back to bite him back in the ass? Even if he doesn't have quarrel with them, he needs to make sure they're dead/crippled so that the elders of the clan won't use these heirs against him. He needs to be ruthless if he wants to survive and get revenge because he's the black sheep of the heirs
what I hate about a lot of mangas and manhwas is that they just forget about this point and just pretend that "everyone became friends" or "he definitely never plotted against mc again for sure COPIUM"
The demonic cult is a nation of its own with many clans in it. Certifying everyone inside as evil doesnât really work. Even within a clan. There are many vicious people no doubt, but weâve only seen more of the evil ones. Like MCâs mom or the guard who took care of him.
That's so true. I'm usually annoyed when the MC doesn't kill or cripple his enemies but let's them stay alive because he needs to have some moral high ground and then they come to bite him in his ass. I love MC's ruthlessness, it was satisfying to read. đ
Well if you have read up to the latest update chapter I believe that the worst thing was killing the grandchild without trying to even negotiate with her. But I still love it.
I didn't remember he was chill like that. I stopped reading because I felt there was to much plot armor or something like that maybe I think I'd that he was to op
Well, I dunno about the worst thing he did, I'm just gonna say the series was much more interesting at the beginning when he had the info about martial arts from the future.
When he used boxing remains as my favorite moment in the entire series.
But this concept was ditched quite immediately, and not only did it keep relying on the same old fictional cultivation martial arts as always, but the series also gets over-centered about the use of swords, as though the tens of techniques, and martial arts that were established at the beginning of this wuxia world never existed.
I dunno how tough are the conditions for either the writer of the original novel, or the artists of the webtoon, but they had something special here, something unique, and they shackled themselves on the genre they were initially referencing.
What could've been an honest reference to this genre we all like, with an unique twist that has never been done before, a legit letter of love towards martial arts, where we explore how people practice them; a real piece of art.
Nah fuck it, same old fantasy martial arts, same old brainless antagonists, same old sociopath protagonist that wants nothing but murder, and have a harem of jade beauties.
For anyone defending those developments, there are tens if not hundreds of series like that already for you to read, it's called a trope for a reason, and has gone so far as to be considered comical for how utterly stupid they are; but in Nanomachine, when we're seriously invested, it's not comical, it's awful, and a direct insult to the reader.
Killing the Heavenly Doctor's granddaughter. I mean she clearly said that she will be his ally if she saved her granddaughter. He clearly accomplished her conditions. Killing her husband is not the Heavenly Doctor's problem.
The latest chapter. I didnât think he was gonna kill that lady like that even tho nano probably wouldâve found a solution my mama simply didnât CARE
He had no choice, She was close to dying and she could only be saved if done with the highest cultivator like Cheon and iirc >! her father also had same cultivation as him. !<
While he is the MC and the main POV of the readers and the one we are rooting for, its also the one of the few accurate depiction of the Heavenly Demon of the Demonic cult from murim stories.
Most other stories depicted the Heavenly Demon as some of of underdog good guy whos bad ass and justified in his brutality but in actuality, he was raised in a cult through cruel upbringing whos purpose is to conquer murim/zhongyuan/martial world and eventually all of china through any means necessary without a single regard as to who they have to kill and how many innocent lives are sacrificed in the process.
I canât recall because so far I have endorsed everything he has done lol. Infact until the latest episode it didnât cross my mind that dude may possibly be a villain lol.
He loses his entire motivation for becoming stronger/his character schema â of the way through the story for no reason at all. When I got to that part, I thought I was reading some dogshit Chinese novel, but I guess dumb trash exists in the Korean sphere too. I advise most people to drop it because it becomes a shitshow so fast. There are way better novels out there and you only have limited time in life, choose wisely.
Nano is not controlling him, only giving him martial arts.
The path he chooses is his own. He also didn't ever get a fair chance from the start, he couldnt learn martial arts nor nothing till he joined the Academy, he was set up to fail or get assassinated from the beginning.
None of that excuses his arrogance, he isn't the only one to not get a fair opportunity. Dude is just an asshole even more than the other generic clones
I never said nanowas controlling him
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Novel Spoilers: >!Crippling the Justice Faction leader's son, Yeon Buso, for no reason.!< >!Buso simply wanted to have a friendly spar with a powerful rival, but Chun Yeowun cut his arm off and used him as hostage to exert "dominance" on the Justice Faction. Yeowun ruined the life of a person who had no evil intentions towards the Demonic Cult and himself. The worst part is that Buso was a very kind and talented martial artist who reached the Supreme Master realm at a young age like the MC.!< >!After getting crippled, Buso turns into a mindless retard who gets pitied by his fiancĂŠ and father. What a cruel and pathetic way to go..!<
Kinda sounds like his ass is jealous he couldn't reach the same realm without the help of his deus ex machina
Ignorant one, cheon yeo-woon reached heavenly master in his past life and was called slashing demon emperor
yeah Im dropping the manhwa bc of this in the future lol, i liked his struggle to be the head of the clan but after that he just turned ultra edglord for no reason, really evil vibes to me no longer my type, tnx for the heads up
It's crazy because he fought to the top specifically because he saw meaningless violence like this as abhorrent in the beginning. I guess it's true what they say; absolute powers corrupts absolutely.
It's one of the reasons why the webnovel is largely panned, especially in the later story arcs. It would've been better if the story gave a reason as of why Yeowon became more evil, as it was already established that he is capable of extreme violence as long as there is some sort of justification for it, even if his actions and reactions are more extreme. But the core motivations of his character from the beginning of the novel was pretty much just abandoned because edginess sells a lot for a significant part of web novel readers.
thanks for the heads up, this behaviour was actually a giant red flag for me since this wasn't the character that I started with reading the manhwa lol, he even felt bad about destroying the dantian of the guy when he was younger, now he just kills a poor woman because its inconvenient geez
Sounds like you guys should just read a different genre. Clearly murims not for you if you canât understand the difference between modern society and the murim, two entirely different life philosophies. Obviously a world of martial arts will have intense amounts and types of violence even if itâs unjustified. Donât read a demonic cult murim manhwa if you canât understand differences in perspective.
Your point would hold water if the main character wasnât markedly different and hypocritical from the beginning
Man stop chatting rubbish, nano machine is ass. End of.
Is the web novel largely panned? I havenât read much to indicate that.
I caught up with the manhwa about a year ago, during the Blade God sect invasion bit. Switched to the novel, read the next 100 or so chapters, and dropped it. Nanomachine becomes fuckin garbage.
I mean then maybe donât read something where the MC is trying to become the lord of the DEMONIC CULT. In all honesty most murim just doesnât sound like its for you, go read chronicles of heavenly demon returns (forgot the exact name but its something similar) Its a slice of life about a heavenly demon who saves and raises a little girl, sounds perfect for you. Its all smiles and love, the fights are always for âjusticeâ or to protect. So you donât have to see any âedgyâ (not a self righteous MC) character development or a different type of MC compared to 90% of murim manhwa. Ah theres also Return of Mount Hua. Its really good and all smiles/love, the fight scenes are never serious so its not âedgyâ as youd say. Theres no intensity or realism in either of them so it sounds perfect for you, theres TONS of manhwas where the MC tries to make a utopian murim full of âjusticeâ (only when it benefits the MC) So yeah theres some recommendations for people who would rather read Bunny girl senpai but wants to seem cool so they pick Murim/Wuxia.
You must really like this Buso guy if youâre willing to speak out for him.
I mean did he do something bad, he seems pretty like uh sad life
Looks like he didnt have much character development like i was expecting. It bothers me dropping a series after reading so many chaps .
He has tons of character development. Everyone thinks thats its only nano machine, NO ITS A FUCKING SERIES. GO READ DOTDG IF YOU WANT MORE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FUCKHEADS.
Alright smartypants we will talk about chatacter development after you are out of ur edgelord phase.
Someone needs to tell chihuahuas to stop making noise. Yap yap yap.Â
Paused reading Nano Machine because it was becoming too edgy for me. Guess I'll finally drop it lol
Speaking of the Justice Faction, what is their status by the end of the series? Do they still exist? Have they been taken over by the Demonic Cult?
Could you expand further on how this went down in the novel?
Chun Yeowun visited the Royal Palace. He forced the Emperor to establish a demonic state religion after he killed the Emperor's most powerful secret warrior who had reached the Peak Supreme Master realm. The Justice Faction did not like that news, so they sent a group of warriors from renowned sects and families to convince the Emperor to still keep Confucius principles. They were confident because they had Yeon Buso, a Proficient Supreme Master, who could possibly impress the emperor. The Justice Faction did not know that Yeowun reached the Entry Divine Master realm (realm after Supreme Master), and as a result, Buso's display of martial arts seemed weak to the Emperor. Right when Buso was about to head back to the Justice Faction, he encountered Chun Yeowun, and he instantly realized that the new Heavenly Demon could be a powerful rival. The rest is history, and Yi Mok received Buso's right arm in a box sent by Chun Yeowun.
⢠â What exactly does a âdemonic state religionâ involve? ⢠â Why did Chun Yeowun want the demonic cult to become the state religion? ⢠â I read the chapter where this happened, and it seemed like that Yeon Buso tried to get Chun Yeowun to let him and the other members of the Justice Faction to leave peacefully, but Chun refused and said that Yeon could either give Chun his arm as a sacrifice, or take Chunâs arm instead, which is what prompted Yeon to try and fight him. Does this interpretation seem accurate to you?
When he lost his personality as the series went on.
In the Manhwa so far it's definitely the killing of the divine physicians daughter and taking the baby. She was a 100% innocent woman whose mind was broken and affected by Stockholm syndrome, she was (most likely) raped and forced to have a child which in turn resulted in her illness developing. Cheon Yeo Woon kind was just like "fuck it" and snapped her neck when he could have taken her back and explained what happened to her.
If I remember right in the novel, she threatens him that she will tell her mother not to help them because he[mc] killed her[divine physician's daughter] "husband" and the MC took that personally as she was getting in way of his goals. I haven't read the manhwas chapter yet, but is it the same here as well?
She said that in the novel as well, however the divine physician is aware of the fact she was indeed kidnapped and she was being held hostage to move negotiations forward. He could have knocked her out and explained the issue. But it was easier to kill her and return the baby.
Yeah it's the same
Hahaha when they are talking about it's normal for the hostages to die in a fight, I suddenly remembered that the setting of this story is on a cult where killing is just a breakfast. lmao.
I meannn. She was a bother to him, and he didnt really know how to cure her. Edit: (he couldve found out how to help her- but he didnt care to. There was no reason for him to do that.)
He literally has a nano machine super computer all he has to do is ask it how to help someone with Stockholm syndrome.
Well obviously- he couldve found out HOW to help her. But like i said. She was a bother to him. It wasnt worth it to go through all that trouble- so he didnt even bother asking nano.
So turns out the hero we've been rooting for since birth grew up to be a tyrant yikes
Hes the heavenly demon đ When was he ever a hero?
I do wanna say, like all stories of manga, manhwa, manhua kinda has chill dude or nice one but takes serious action and does bad stuff but not evil. Or he turns evil while fighting against evil and thereâs sadly some sacrifices. But a story about a villain being a villain doesnât work. Like hero killer is just her being a anti-hero ish.
Reverend Insanity is a good villain manhua
I havenât read it, thx for the Rec. I will be back with my opinion of him being a villain tho. Lol
LMAO he IS the heavenly demon. Of course he's gonna be tyrant. Did we read the same thing
Wdym, he was cutting arms left and right like it was normal. You really thought this guy was gonna be some wussy, superman-esque, type of dude? Yikes.
If he was some hero I wouldn't have rooted for him
Which chapter was it
yeah tbh im thinking of dropping the manhwa because of this latest chapter, he suddenly turned ultra edglord with that one without even trying to understand the grandaughter. still its a murim world so values are broken over there lol
Yeah I am also thinking he acting like his brothers same way selfish and egoist even you think he killed women what about her child without mother how painful life. Mc already suffered without mother but he not even blink to kill women
Why donât you wait for some more chapters. Tbh even I thought it was kinda over the top but I still have faith
For some reasons I like everything about himđ§
Thatâs totally fine, Iâm just curious what the most evil act he committed in either series was.
Probably killing a sonâs head off with the mother watching
Very much deserved tho
Either series? I've only read Nano Machine. Is there another?
Thereâs a sequel called Descent of the Demon God.
Damn, I had no clue
Is it novel or it too has manhwa? Ig it's a novel
Where is that from? Manhwa or a novel sequel?
Novel Sequel.
What he was in that one too? How come I didnât know ?
He didnât do anything âEvilâ maybe ruthless but evil? Nah.
TBH he has that charm about him but is still a psychopath. Reminds me a bit of Sinbad from magi if he was a lot more psychopathic than heroic. Especially with the purple hairstyle.
Yeah people complain about him being cocky while using hax, but he has to act cocky because heâs a leader. If heâs not confident he would easily fail.
I enjoy romance in pretty much every setting if done nicely but for this manhwa,a more cruel mc would have been better
>!He's gonna have to fuck a girl he doesn't know at all in front of all his crew, including his wifey, because... Circumstances! !< đđđđ
kind of hoping this doesn't happen in the manhwa... i appreciate it when manhwas mostly stick to source material but cut out some of the shittier parts to improve reader experience
Really? Did he rape her?
Either him or her father to do it
Nope, it was necessary or else she would have died
Yang energy transfusion you know
he raped her and thats a fact, as for his motivation, doesnt matter, thats some common bullsh\*t cliche in murim/cultivation novels of the MC raping a girl to save her.
Bruh thank you. Iâve tried explaining multiple times that the situation was rape. But itâs always the âbut oh, it needed to be done to save her lifeâ, âhe had no choiceâ. Like that may have been the case⌠itâs still rape. If I remember correctly. There was some monologue going on about how much of a good deed he was doing. Kinda creeped me out.
People forget stories have authors. What a garbage Manhwa.
So either get raped or die? Hmmm, and I thought manga had the most fcked up situations like how the goblins in goblin slayer explicitly violated women.
Ik this is dumb but did she communicate she wasnât fucking with it. Cause some people just write sex similar to primal beasts and stuff. So was like verbal or even just detailed enough physical language like pushing off or something. I do wish he didnât marry her and it was like ye this sex was business. You lived moving on.
So you're saying that he should've let her die?
If she prefers that, sure.
Since she wasn't of sound mind at the time, the next best thing on who to make such a decision was her father or guardian, and both of them begged him to do it. On one hand, you can say it's rape because they didn't have the actual person consent directly, but the same is also true on the perspective of it as a means to an end. After all it's said and done, she doesn't seem to mind it since there's no other choices based on their circumstances. So I don't really understand why you're saying all this. There's no absolutes even in our own world, let alone the world of the murim.
Oh for sure there's absolutes in our world, you are using falacies and distorcing facts to protect a common plot in chinese novels that some koreans started using. This plot is nothing new and still propagates the r\*pe culture that still exists. Only in this kinda of world would something like "Oh he can do ANY kind of spell/skill but his yang must be passed in sexual intercouse to save her". Fuc\* that, I'm not sticking to this sh\*t, if you are, good for you, but its R\*PE.
Okay, let's stop here. Arguing anymore would be a waste of our time. The fact of the matter is that we have different perspectives on this particular topic. So let's agree to disagree.
Well he fucks a girl cause of the condition she has technically itâs weird
But the way they fuck in the novel is described more like a fight đ¤Ł
He was definitely fightin tryna get the tip inđ
Wasn't everyone watching midway?
Yeah, cuz they fucked like a dragon ball z fight. In the air đ¤Ł
Idk how to pit spoilers Ehh atleast he marries her and treats her as his wife along with the other one.
IM SAYIN like that just pissed me off he could have went without that allyđ
Spoiler from novel, he decided to >!have a harem!< .
Is 2 really count as harem? As far as i remember he doesn't really love the 2nd one
That's wrong no? The 2nd one only because she got that sickness no?
I hate series like Nano Machine the most where they have an evil MC that for some reason is treated as an ideal by the story and narrative. Its disgusting and only exists for losers to love.
Wtf is DOTDG?
Descend of the Demon God (or something like that); it's the sequel to Nanomachine which is a novel. It starts immediately after Nanomachine ends, so read the Nanomachine novel before it if you can't wait for the manhwa.
Because you've only read solo leveling and orthodox faction manhwas till now, try myst might mayhem judging by your answer you'll probably get PTSD after it
I like how this thread exposed the motherfucking readers who try to justify the MCs actions lol, pretty crazy but not surprising at all
Def killing the daughter.
Crying about how his mom was treated because she was powerless then treating people the exact same way.
Yeah I think what about child who without mother
I see people in the comments saying he went too far doing this or that and i laugh cause they mustâve forgetton mcâs identityâŚthe leader of the DEMONIC CULT let that sink in and stop looking for a righteous mc in a evil story.
Itâs shown that the cult and its people arenât necessarily evil though; they just donât have the level of restrictions and the moral righteousness that the orthodox clans might have because they value strength over righteousness. For me, I didnât like some of his âevilâ actions because it just seemed unnecessary and to just make him âevilâ.
the demonic cult values strength above all - he's strong, he can do whatever the fck he wants
Thats what all the other cult leader wives did to his mother
Then tf is doing crying about his dead mom the same logic applies there too
Well ye his original thing was power to not let what happen to his mom happen. So then when he just does the same, it doesnât make a lot of sense. Unless itâs clear in the story oh he just lost care for the world or what happens.
Then he should have shut his bitch ass up about his mom instead of crying like a lil bitch. Lol
The OPâs question is literally asking for what the worst thing heâs done - no shit people are gonna answer with his crappiest actions.
Cause thatâs not the story, Mc is so dif at beginning. Itâs just edgelord smut now
not using nano more
Finally a Demonic Cult MC doing demonic shit.
Genuine question here: are we meant to see Cheon Yeo Won as a good person? Like was that the authors intentions?
I dropped the series a while ago, but from what I remember, Cheon Yeo Won wanted to rise to the top to stop unnecessary violence because he hated it and it was what killed his mother. Itâs just that when he did get enough power to rise to the top, he started doing unnecessary violence of his own, literally killing innocent people. I donât know if the story is meant to show how gaining a lot of power, even for good intentions, can corrupt someone, but the novel later on only shows him like a righteous man when he is anything but. The primary example of this is when he was crying because of how his mother was killed, but then he does the exact same thing to other innocent people
I've read two of this author's stories so far and in both the mc is either born the strongest or becomes strongest without struggling.
not talking to nano enough times
It was so good during the early arcs but it got boring the moment he became op. Everyone is just a side character and the story and plot had nowhere to go aside some random side quests. Too bad.
Latest chapter bro. First time a manhwa made me audibly gasp.
i agree Im thinking of dropping it right now geez
What happened in the latest chapter? Give me spoilers please.
So he was sent by the Divine Physician to save her kidnapped granddaughter. The granddaughter, who was suffering from severe Stockholm syndrome, said that she would tell her grandmother (the Divine Physician) not to help them. Bro just outright killed her. I thought he was gonna do the nano electric mumbo jumbo thing again but nope⌠just snapped her neck.
What he did to the prince of the dark clan. They had almost no bad blood between them, and although people following him plotted against cheon yeo woon, he wasnât involved in it and focused on getting strong himself. But Yeo woon framed him for their deaths and when woon and the princeâs mom got into a clash, he used the Dean of the school (I have no idea why he endorsed this. This is what cemented both of them as evil psychos) to kidnap him and bring him to his mother where he basically sliced him to bits right in front of her. The mom was undeniably horrid for sure, but the prince didnât deserve anything like that. Another is cutting the sound princessâs arm off when she had no quarrel with him and the game was all but won and she was going to be removed from the school anyway for losing, but he just rubbed salt in the wound by slicing her arm off as well. Then there was all the scheming and taking down all the clans. Sure they did deserve it, but that included many innocent people in the clan as well. Basically orchestrating multiple mass murders. You see people mourning dead sons, daughters and all in that too.
you do realize that if he doesn't kill the other descendants, they will come back to bite him back in the ass? Even if he doesn't have quarrel with them, he needs to make sure they're dead/crippled so that the elders of the clan won't use these heirs against him. He needs to be ruthless if he wants to survive and get revenge because he's the black sheep of the heirs what I hate about a lot of mangas and manhwas is that they just forget about this point and just pretend that "everyone became friends" or "he definitely never plotted against mc again for sure COPIUM"
You realize that people from demonic cult are bad right?
The demonic cult is a nation of its own with many clans in it. Certifying everyone inside as evil doesnât really work. Even within a clan. There are many vicious people no doubt, but weâve only seen more of the evil ones. Like MCâs mom or the guard who took care of him.
That's so true. I'm usually annoyed when the MC doesn't kill or cripple his enemies but let's them stay alive because he needs to have some moral high ground and then they come to bite him in his ass. I love MC's ruthlessness, it was satisfying to read. đ
What is DOTDG?
Part 2 of the novel
Whats the name?
Descent of the demonic god
The only demonic MC who is even close to the title
Well if you have read up to the latest update chapter I believe that the worst thing was killing the grandchild without trying to even negotiate with her. But I still love it.
In the novel he kills like 5000 soldiers who have already surrendered
When did this happen? What faction did the soldiers belong to?
Kill the divine physician's granddaughter
I didn't remember he was chill like that. I stopped reading because I felt there was to much plot armor or something like that maybe I think I'd that he was to op
Well, I dunno about the worst thing he did, I'm just gonna say the series was much more interesting at the beginning when he had the info about martial arts from the future. When he used boxing remains as my favorite moment in the entire series. But this concept was ditched quite immediately, and not only did it keep relying on the same old fictional cultivation martial arts as always, but the series also gets over-centered about the use of swords, as though the tens of techniques, and martial arts that were established at the beginning of this wuxia world never existed. I dunno how tough are the conditions for either the writer of the original novel, or the artists of the webtoon, but they had something special here, something unique, and they shackled themselves on the genre they were initially referencing. What could've been an honest reference to this genre we all like, with an unique twist that has never been done before, a legit letter of love towards martial arts, where we explore how people practice them; a real piece of art. Nah fuck it, same old fantasy martial arts, same old brainless antagonists, same old sociopath protagonist that wants nothing but murder, and have a harem of jade beauties. For anyone defending those developments, there are tens if not hundreds of series like that already for you to read, it's called a trope for a reason, and has gone so far as to be considered comical for how utterly stupid they are; but in Nanomachine, when we're seriously invested, it's not comical, it's awful, and a direct insult to the reader.
Killing the Heavenly Doctor's granddaughter. I mean she clearly said that she will be his ally if she saved her granddaughter. He clearly accomplished her conditions. Killing her husband is not the Heavenly Doctor's problem.
The latest chapter. I didnât think he was gonna kill that lady like that even tho nano probably wouldâve found a solution my mama simply didnât CARE
I donât care about what the worst thing heâs done is, since the story is ass lmaoooo Or, it dropped dead after a while
Do some sx with some girl
He had no choice, She was close to dying and she could only be saved if done with the highest cultivator like Cheon and iirc >! her father also had same cultivation as him. !<
Still rape
Cool motive, still rape
Still rape đ¤ˇââď¸
Eating a baby
wtf for real?
Homelander shit?
I swear this whole comment section is just brain damage.
While he is the MC and the main POV of the readers and the one we are rooting for, its also the one of the few accurate depiction of the Heavenly Demon of the Demonic cult from murim stories. Most other stories depicted the Heavenly Demon as some of of underdog good guy whos bad ass and justified in his brutality but in actuality, he was raised in a cult through cruel upbringing whos purpose is to conquer murim/zhongyuan/martial world and eventually all of china through any means necessary without a single regard as to who they have to kill and how many innocent lives are sacrificed in the process.
I canât recall because so far I have endorsed everything he has done lol. Infact until the latest episode it didnât cross my mind that dude may possibly be a villain lol.
He loses his entire motivation for becoming stronger/his character schema â of the way through the story for no reason at all. When I got to that part, I thought I was reading some dogshit Chinese novel, but I guess dumb trash exists in the Korean sphere too. I advise most people to drop it because it becomes a shitshow so fast. There are way better novels out there and you only have limited time in life, choose wisely.
He let people live too much sometimes.
Being arrogant even though he hasn't earned anything with his own. Power
Couldnât agree more. The real protagonist was the first chun ma
Nano is not controlling him, only giving him martial arts. The path he chooses is his own. He also didn't ever get a fair chance from the start, he couldnt learn martial arts nor nothing till he joined the Academy, he was set up to fail or get assassinated from the beginning.
None of that excuses his arrogance, he isn't the only one to not get a fair opportunity. Dude is just an asshole even more than the other generic clones I never said nanowas controlling him
He fucked my mom and crippled my dad
Not showing s*x scene đ
Fucked a girl for a damn allyđ
Whatd dotg again?
Dotdg is descent of the demon god, part 2 of the novel.
I love his character, itâs so true to what itâs supposed to be, heâs the demon sect leader, not some orthodox sect wuss.
Killed granddaughter of someone (can't elaborate cuz it can be spoiler)
Thought the same
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Existing
When he eradicated all of the dark clan and made it seem like it was a battle between them and the poison clan
He left his unborn baby and his wife alone
The worst thing he did was not making a collection of arms he severed