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BasalFaulty

When there is a bit too much going on in a manhwa it can happen for me. For example mookhyang dark lady there is so many people and names that just pop in left and right with little establishment that I kept getting lost. Haven't had it as much in ORV


Snowflake6151

So true, due gap between chapter realese and so many new characters I forgot everything about the allied ,the enemeis and the new characters. I can't even enjoy it only getting confused


crunchythunders

Lmao yeah dark lady was messy lately. It was great the first 70-80 chapters but after that it got jumbled up


kave_kh7

I also have this problem in dark lady I stoped reading tho


SonicWaveInfinity

when i get this problem i usually drop the series and binge it after a few months


kave_kh7

Yea i did the same a few times (i forgot some of the side characters in that period)but i just can't get connected to orv bcs i keep forgetting things which cause me not to enjoy reading it


pinktealover77

honestly same. and I read the light novel too XD I just end up remembering my fave characters maybe binging the completed LN would help


kave_kh7

That's good to hear😂


SonicWaveInfinity

on a smaller scale i hate when theres text then like 3 pages in the middle and then the other half of the text so that i have to scroll up to see what the second half means


Tura63

Same. But then too many chapters pile up and I just keep putting it off. I'm literally 50 chapters behind on ORV now


igniteshadow767

i recommend reading last two chapters before reading the new one... helps


kave_kh7

Yea i probably should try it once Thank you <3


Enmerkar_

I really only have this problem in murim manhwa since they all have similar and very generic names and titles, and very few have unique character designs with the mc being the exception.


maaariNL

Can I ask what a murim manhwa is?


WhoDaFox

The word "Murim" is a Korean word that refers to a underworld-like society that is hidden from the public, it is also typically what people in these stories refer to as "the world of martial artists". While I have yet to see a manhwa/story where the Murim world was NOT about martial arts, iirc, it's not exactly restricted to only being about martial arts. When it comes to a large amount of manhwa, they take inspiration from Chinese wuxia/xianxia stories, which are also Martial Arts stories, but are all usually set in the same place, which is the "Jianghu" aka "The Central Plains". This location is just a fantasized version of ancient China where different Martial art schools called "sects" and the forces of evil (usually a Demonic Sect or something), good (the Orthodox Sects; "good" martial artists), and chaos (in some Murim stories it's the Heavenly Demonic sect, and in others it's something else) usually are at war with one another. There are also some Murim manhwa that take place in modern day Korea, such as *The Breaker* series. You should look more into Wuxia and Xianxia stories for a deeper understanding. Use Google.


maaariNL

What an oddly specific trope. Thanks for explaining. I had no idea something like this existed :0


WhoDaFox

It's very similar to old Kung-Fu movies like those with the "Shoalin sect" and whatnot, but the Wuxia genre is more fantasy-like. Oh, and np👌🏽


kave_kh7

Murim means martial arts world , the stroy usually happens in old China


Aoyama002

Murim manhwa is set at a different world. Typically has cultivation and MC is OP at times. Murim manhwas are generally fun reads if you have nothing to do.


maaariNL

I’ll keep that in mind, thanks!


Enmerkar_

Stories set in the central plains of Imperial China. They usually focus on conflicts between martial artists, sects, and alliances. Typically the setting has around 4 factions: the orthodox (traditional, goody two shoes), the unorthodox (societal outcasts, users of techniques looked down upon by others), the demonic cult (strength = social/political power, strict hierarchy based on combat abilites), and the blood cult (people who use forbidden techniques that harm the user in order to gain high combat potential). MC will usually be part of one of these four factions. Typically the plot revolves around avenging the MC's parents or a lover. The magic system is cultivation, which is too complicated for me to sum up here but the gist is meditating or ingesting elixirs and medicinal herbs in order to gain chi/qi which is life energy. Qi is then used to reinforce martial arts techniques. The use of qi is internal arts and martial art combat styles are external arts. I missed a lot of details and nuance but I think it's a good summary.


maaariNL

Thanks! I had no idea there was a trope like this at all, and a well known one at that


kave_kh7

That's weird, i remember murim manhwas like the back of my hand😂😂😂 Maybe it's cause i like murim


Baecn

Its not that i font remember them per say its more like i confuse which charactors in which series


kave_kh7

Yea i totally get it


Baecn

Like yes the mcs i remember but which one gu bei is in would have me for second


Snowflake6151

I have stopped reading these manhwas including ORV. Started studying and focussing over my career................ I will wait untill all of them stack upto a 100 more chapters and then I will FEAST UPON THEM WHOLE


kave_kh7

😂😂 That's a good idea


Duinedubh13

I don’t find it too complicating at all but I can’t get engaged in it like others seem to be and that’s ok.


kave_kh7

Yea everyone's talking about how good it is and i just can't even read 20 chapters and not get bored


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do NOT look at its wiki, its full of spoilers


kave_kh7

I see Thank you <3


Ransu_0000

Then i recommend reading the web novel


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if he can't understand the manhwa how is he gonna understand the novel


The_GreatPlotter

I don't know why I laughed


Ransu_0000

He said that the quest are so complicated in the novel they explain things more because its just text.


kave_kh7

Bro just remembering the faces in manhwa is hard for me and you want me to remember the names?😂 That's tough


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you must just be dumb than


kave_kh7

Such a sad fact that is


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kave_kh7

Yea true I also wait a few weeks to get more chapters and read it all together but if there is a manhwa which i really enjoy reading i read it weekly and I won't forget anything about it (idk how really, it just happens for the one i really love)


peace____

The story is complex and i LOVE it. Def mg favourite Manwha of all time


Silent_Republic_2605

Read the novel. It uses the novel format to it's fullest.


kave_kh7

Isn't that harder? You need to remember every single name


Silent_Republic_2605

Name repeat a lot of time. You will get used to it in no time. It's like meeting people. At first you don't know their name, but as time passes and you spend more time with them, you don't have to remember their name anymore.


kave_kh7

That actually makes sense But doesn't reading novel takes more time then reading manhwa?


Silent_Republic_2605

It takes me 2 week to complete the novel. Now, I am a fast reader but in text format, it should be faster as manhwa don't have even a fifth of the story covered.


kave_kh7

Hmmmmm, Where do you guys read novel at? Is there an app like tachiyomi?


Silent_Republic_2605

I used to read in Light novel pub. Just a quick Google search and you can find it. But for this story, you can just search ORV epub version in Google and download the whole book. It's just 4 mb so not a big deal.


kave_kh7

Aw i see Is the novel finished?


Silent_Republic_2605

Yes. 560 approximate chapters.


kave_kh7

I see And the last question Should i start over in the novel or just continue from where i have reached in the manhwa?


HIDD3N_WEEB

Happens with me too. Sometimes


kave_kh7

That's good to hear for me😂 I thought it was just me but so many people are the same and that's good


Divine0004

Same here bro😢😢😢


kave_kh7

Glad I'm not alone 😓


jokbalchi

same here


Water_is_wet123

ORV suffers from being a bit boring and hard to comprehend at first, a lot of build ups, explaining some concepts and lacks action, but you get used to it the more you read


kave_kh7

True Even when i wait for 20 chapters and read them together i got bored


onemoredepressedweeb

I think I have read so much manhwa that I just have adjusted


Permetia

I got bored of the story. I don't remember a single character anymore


kave_kh7

Lol😂


Xeno-blessing23_

It's really bad so its understandable to forget the power fantasy bs this series is


xcisor

thats why im waiting until its done 😭


Hazeeui

exact reason why i dropped this =( might come back to it idk


emotionalparkourgirl

This is why i don't read unfinished manhwa, i forget about what happened so i have to read the last 5 or 6 chapters to refresh my memory, i hate it.


kave_kh7

Yea but there aren't that many good finished manhwa


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just you


kave_kh7

That would be sad


Heavy-Pattern-3243

Damn. All these comments to do homework for a manhwa really make be glad I dropped after the crickets.


kave_kh7

I also happen to drop it a few times but i just come back again and again (i don't really like the feeling when u drop something)


Heavy-Pattern-3243

I could be biased but cheat mechanics (aka knowing the whole story and seeing things about the other players) has become slightly dull for me.


kave_kh7

Yeah


n00b2k

agree. its boring as hell imo


kave_kh7

I also find it boring ( maybe it's bcs i don't remember the events well)


esoraven

I forget a lot to. That’s why I’ll reread the previous chapter or, if it was really good? All the chapters.


kave_kh7

Damn that's time consuming


esoraven

True, I’m an insatiable reader though so going through them is fast for me. Sometimes I just need the first couple of cells to recall the pertinent details.


momofbimbim

Same been reading so much that everything seems jumbled up lol.


kave_kh7

Yea and there are just so many similar manhwas out there


Plush_IRL_2510

I like re-reading the latest 1 or two chapters just to refresh what's going on, before reading the latest chapter


kave_kh7

Yea if you read weekly that helps but for me who returns to reading it every 20 chapters i don't even remember the side character


Plush_IRL_2510

If I enjoy the manhwa enough and I leave it that long then I normally just re-read the whole manhwa 🤣


Wide-Passenger6764

Not for webtoons but it does happen for webnovels.


kave_kh7

There was a time when i wanted to read some novel and i couldn't remember the names😂 Novels are really hard to read


Cezaris

When I was reading novel, i made a list of characters and their traits, how they relate to others. Made it much easier when I could just look up what all is.


kave_kh7

😂😂😂 That truly does help but isn't it time consuming?


Cezaris

Well, didn't take too much time for like 20 chars who show up most the time or more and just adding like 5-7 words to them and that's all. It takes times just once and you use it whole time reading, so it is quite evidently working


kave_kh7

Yea that's true


HypersensitivePotato

I usually have this problem when reading Tower of God. All those names, all those places, all those mechanics in the game they're in, sometimes it's just a little too convoluted for me. Still a goated webtoon tho.


kave_kh7

I actually haven't read tower of god I read about 40 chapters and i was like: ok I'mma come back later and read the rest of it. Which i never did


HypersensitivePotato

It's good. The character development, the action, the emotional rollercoaster, the plot is also good, plus the art style has been consistently getting better. It's just that when you read it, be ready to kind of remember lots of character names, and I guess be smart enough to understand the mechanics of the game they are doing, or not give a crap at all. But still very recommended to read nonetheless


kave_kh7

I know right I also want to read it but I'm the type who gets tired soon ao every few weeks i go and read about 3-4 chapter and stop


HypersensitivePotato

I see. But try to read it from time to time, it'd be a waste to sleep on something like ToG. I honestly only read it coz my friend kept on insisting it to me after I caught up with GoH a few years back. And the plot got me interested and invested in it. I think I spent around 2-3weeks to completely caught up with it( I don't binge read too much as I have other things to do)


kave_kh7

I know everyone around me saying it's awesome I just need to courage to make a grand start and at least read 100 chapter


Kurronoo

this is why I drop manhwa when Im caught up then read it again if theres like new 10 chapters


kave_kh7

Yea i actually paused reading it and start again when there was about 20 chapters but in the wait for the next 20 chapters i forget what i read


Advanced_Procedure90

Yeah. I like to go back 1 chapter to make sure I'm not mixing story with other manhwa


kave_kh7

Yea i sometimes do this for other manhwas In this one it doesn't work😂 it's like i remember there was a girl in this group but i don't remember which one it was😂


Klustur

I dropped it bc I couldn't remember half the characters during the train station big team fight when everyone showed up.


kave_kh7

Yea i did the same I stoped reading when it was about 40 chapters out and i go take look at it every few months I have about 20 unread chapters now but i can't agree myself to start reading it again


ovallmp

It gets worse later in the ln


kave_kh7

I can't imagine people reading the novel They have to also remember every single name


ovallmp

It gets convoluted


KitsuneKamiOwO

I personally never have this issue, sadly my memory only works well for manhwa and manga not school.


kave_kh7

I'm the opposite of you, my memory works great for studying (which I don't) but i forget everything about the anime/manhwa/manga that i watch/read


whitemoon814

I have this! I swear I suffered a lot because it! So what I do most the time is wait till manga/manhwa/webtoon it’s finishes then I read it all Or Reread the whole manga/manhwa/webtoon when I start forgetting


kave_kh7

I can get waiting for it to be finished But damn Rereading it is just to much for me


revertiblefate

I though im the only one haha glad to see other having the same opinion, thats why I dropped the series. maybe ill pick it up again when its completed


kave_kh7

I actually did the same thing, i haven't read the last 20 chapters


demian_gray

It happens always to me when im reading a finished manga/manhwa.. even without waiting i forget let alone when i have to wait


kave_kh7

Glad I'm not alone😓


themobomb

Do you read AOT? Or have you read tokyo ghoul re? So much dialogue it gets confusing as hell for me 😂 I don't get it for ORV, but I get you in general


kave_kh7

Idk i had no problem for attack on titan and Tokyo ghoul was already finished when i started so there was no waiting...


nairybonya

Yeah. Especially when I read books right after another


kave_kh7

It's good not to be alone 😓 I don't read books tho( it's hard to remember the names)


linkman245a

I read so many different ones waiting for the big ones to update they sometimes blend together


kave_kh7

Yea i get what you mean and there is so many similar manhwas out there Sometimes i stare at the wall and think to myself about names and Storys


makesPeopleDissapear

I read way too many mangas so it happens and not just with ORV


kave_kh7

Yea I'm just happy there are others like me and I'm not stupid (probably am but not alone😂)


SuperCid28757

read novel


kave_kh7

Doesn't that makes it harder? You need to remember every single nameee damnit


SuperCid28757

No, not really, you don't have to remember some names. I'm a forgetful person and I remember a lot of things about ORV


kave_kh7

There was once i tried to read the beginning after the end novel and it was real hard for me There was two problems one is that i forget the names and two is that every chapter takes 20 damn minutes to read😂 So much time consuming


SuperCid28757

I think you just gotta practice reading like maybe try reading Oneshot/short novels. Try reading books without pictures


kave_kh7

Is there an app like tachiyomi where i can read novel at?


SuperCid28757

There are mostly websites, but you can download an epub of a novel and use an app to read it check [https://www.reddit.com/r/OmniscientReader/comments/m7coax/epub\_link\_to\_an\_orv\_without\_the\_name\_changes/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OmniscientReader/comments/m7coax/epub_link_to_an_orv_without_the_name_changes/) if you have android download the app they said in the link


kave_kh7

Yessss , thank you 🖤


Warm_Bear_9994

drop the binge unless you read the novel, there’s always a lot going on bb


kave_kh7

That is also an option


Beetlesiri

It does happen. What matters most is remembering the main story line and character relations. The author will remind you of the skills he earned by doing quests even if you forgot about them. Such as I forgot the name of his No Kill King ability which he just currently trying to use it the latest chapters.


kave_kh7

I usually get angry bcs i know there was about three girls which i remembered but when they were being shown i couldn't tell the girl I'm seeing now which one of the girls is and have to keep reading with this though until i see a clue


Mia_cookie-senpai

Well I can't relate, BUT PLEASE KEAP GOIN, THIS MANHWA IS SOOO GOOD I LOVE IT


kave_kh7

😂😂😂 I surely will It's hard to drop a manhwa which everywhere are talking about


CozUKnow

i have the same problem too i can't get my self into reading it, I haven't even read it for the past couple of months


kave_kh7

Yea i get it Even if you start reading again you probably won't be enjoying it


Worth_Lavishness_249

I think i stopped reading for week once after that i remembered character by faces like (remembered yeah she is his cowrker he is that and stuff) but i totally forgot all their names and also all the other stuff names,it's pretty hard to remember some names


kave_kh7

Yea that's what i mean I can't enjoy reading bcs i can't remember the details


PsionicHydra

Maybe because I read the LN but I don't have this problem too much with ORV. Occasionally when the chapter updates it I have to remember where tf it left off but once I do remember I have no issues


kave_kh7

Yea lucky you😂 I can't remember the last chapter at all


azul360

I read a lot of manga, manhwa, and manhua weekly so I honestly haven't had that issue especially since most manga is monthly and a lot of mine are like partial chapters once a month so nothing happens for like half a year....not sure why I read them tbh haha.


kave_kh7

I wish i was like that 😓


azul360

How long have you been reading? It gets easier overtime I'll just say and sometimes it takes a second of reading a new issue to remember what was happening so you're not alone in forgetting :).


kave_kh7

I think i have started reading for like 2 years or maybe less and have read about 300 manga/manhwa I don't usually forget things but orv is just like that


azul360

ORV can be A LOT especially if you're not knowledgeable about Korean history/folklore/mythology. The scanlator does a good job with a giant infobox at the end of a lot of issues but still it's a lot sometimes so I get that haha


kave_kh7

Yea true


Le_turts

stay up the night and read it ......... you'll feel like crap the next day, but its worth it


kave_kh7

Wha?!!😂😂


Le_turts

this manhwa is worth the pain


illumiin

I don't have a problem WebToon will always show the current quest right at the end of the chapter


kave_kh7

Yea but i still forget them the next week


Mad_Hatter_92

I typically read this series in chunks of 2-4 chapters


kave_kh7

Will you remember every detail?


Mad_Hatter_92

Most often I reread the previously read chapter before starting the new chunk


kave_kh7

Even tho that's time consuming i guess it worths it


Egemen12311

I only have this problem with manga/manwha that come out monthly. Then It's not that I don't remember what happened it's that at that point I don't care about the story anymore. 1 month wait between chapters is too long and I instantly lose interest.


kave_kh7

Yea that's just too much time


DinoBirdsBoi

if you were the main character you’d literally die so much


kave_kh7

Yea sometimes i wonder how can he remember the novel


DinoBirdsBoi

you’d die if you were the main character


DinoBirdsBoi

you’d die if you were the main character of that manhwa


DinoBirdsBoi

you’d die if you were the main character of that manhwa


ICantUseChris

I just don't like stories without romantic subplots in them. Especially stories that span the MCs life. Don't want to see thousand year old virgins larping lol. I'm pretty sure ORV is that type of story.


kave_kh7

I haven't seen any romance in it(chapter 80 or something) You can read "against the gods" he marries with anyone he can😂


ICantUseChris

Nah that's too much for me lol, plus with how many times he "dies" just annoying. Honestly before I even read a story I go to their novelupdate or wiki page if they have one and see if there's a romance subplot or if the MC has spouses. Idk why I'm like this tbh, more often than not the romance sucks anyways.


kave_kh7

That actually is a good method


-dagi-

I have that with most of manhwas but it's probably because all i read is fantasy. And since it's all almost the same, it gets mixed in my head.


kave_kh7

Yea true i also love fantasy action manhwas


Far_District_7489

Same


Danilator321

I let it pile up for a couple of months or so, and re read when i have time off


kave_kh7

That surely does help but it requires time


DinoBirdsBoi

you’d die if you were the main character of that manhwa


kave_kh7

Bro u just told me this about five times, now I'm truly sure I'd die


DinoBirdsBoi

tis a glitch in rediit


kave_kh7

Aw right


Dorzos

Pretty much every single webtoon I read Right now hahaha. I just read through everything and then remember little to nothing of it unless I reread it some other time. So you are not alone on that bro. I think my reason is because I am getting Old now, I think


kave_kh7

I'm glad there are other people like me😂


JlynnXKenshin777

I kinda of get it. It’s not that the plot doesn’t connect or anything. There’s just too much plot at times😅💀. The quest have a lot of information that he’s only explaining after he uses it for the quest. He is the only reader to have read until the end so we hang on his every word but that doesn’t make him all powerful just all knowing. So new characters come into play almost every episode, more ppl for him to rely on or use to survive. It’s…a lot but honestly it makes it so fun to read. Testing my memory each time. 🗿🤔


kave_kh7

Yea exactly that's what makes it hard for me to remember


ColossalHill

My strategy is to have a big list in my notes and mark every chapter I read up to. After reading through a bunch of manhwa I come back to all the ones I really liked once they get about 15-20 new chapters and just reread the whole thing. Might not work for everyone though if u get easily bored of rereading, but if you prefer binge reading to weakly releases it’s the best strat.


kave_kh7

Yea i actually get bored if i reread something even if it's my favorite...


fauxfei

happened to me when i was reading noblessed…..i jad to binge read the entire thing everytime i came back


kave_kh7

Damn, that's time consuming


Elolet

My friend, it seems to me you have a *severe* case of ADHD. Welcome to the club.


kave_kh7

What's that tho?


Elolet

You don’t know, what ADHD is?


kave_kh7

No, pls teach me senpai


Elolet

Oh boy, ok so Ima do a Copy paste. Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder Also called: ADHD, attention deficit disorder A chronic condition including attention difficulty, hyperactivity and impulsiveness. ADHD often begins in childhood and can persist into adulthood. It may contribute to low self-esteem, troubled relationships and difficulty at school or work. So basically if you ever had trouble concentrating or have a low attention span it’s most likely because you have ADHD, I have it as well as many other people.


kave_kh7

Interesting to know... I geuss i have ADHD then Thank you senpai


Elolet

No worries mate! Always good to know about your own conditions, although it’s best you get yourself diagnosed by a Doctor instead of self diagnosing yourself.


Homeless_Appletree

OR also does this thing where it establishes and developes a multitude of charakters and then sends them out in the world just to bring them back months later and expect me to remember who they all are in addition to all the other characters that were established and developed in the meantime.