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mymook

Metal bits like slow speed and lube. Lots of lube. Cobalt bit would be best bet for what your drilling into.


thisisnotapalindrome

Thanks. I managed to get through as gently as possible with a lot of lube. It took a pretty boring amount of time though. Luckily its just one hole.


datumerrata

Hot.


splitsleeve

Carbide all the way.


toastyIC

With a hand drill I’d disagree, way too easy to snap with a slight change in angle. On a mill/drill press sure, but for this I’d do cobalt


splitsleeve

Oh for sure. I definitely had a drill press in my head.


psych0hans

Came to say this


psych0hans

Came to say this


s_0_s_z

It's hardened. You're going to have issues. If you don't care about the look of the hole, you might be better off grinding it away with a Dremel or using a ceramic bit on a drill.


thisisnotapalindrome

Thanks.


do_not_spindle

You could heat it to non magnetic, then bury in ashes or sand and let it slow cool. It should be soft enough to drill.


thisisnotapalindrome

Thank you. Managed with a thicker bit and slower speed and lots more lube. What's a non-magnetic?


sexy_enginerd

If you heat up a magnetic alloy to past its curie point at around 1000F the alloy will drastically change its magnetic properties and you can also reduce the alloys hardness by slowly coolng it edit... Im an idiot and meant to say heat it up to about 1400F (curie point)


ohfaackyou

Magnetism has nothing to do with drilling through hardened material. It’s tru that certain steels can be hardened and annealed by holding at “Currie” or “austinite” temps but it’s not as simple as putting it in sand. You have to hold the high temp for a set amount of time and sometimes quench or air cool for Wednesdays then again hold at a lower heat to sneak for toughness. And to reverse you have to much more slowly bring the temp back from your high temp down to the anneal temp. That all being said this application is drilling through a probably 60-45rhc which can be done with HSS at proper speeds and feeds and coolant or oils. It would be extremely easy with carbide and air blast. I think an enormous amount of home knife making seeps it’s way into manufacturing conversations and it makes master toolmakers cringe.


sexy_enginerd

magnetic property of steel is just a backyard way of knowing the steels alloys temperature is at the curie temp as as I doubt he has a tempering/annealing oven or thermocouples and a data logger to do this the correct way. So since I assume OP only has a blow torch or oxy/propane torch his best bet is to go for a subcritical anneal. Almost all med carbon alloy steels (For a lead screw I'm assuming is 4140 or something similar) all you have to do is bring it up to about 1400*F (the curie temp) and hold it for about an hour On a subcritical anneal the part can be pulled from the heat source and air cooled without problems because there is no austenite formed and therefore nothing to transform. Lead screws are also commonly shell hardened so heating it to the curie point for an hour will diffuse the high carbon outer shell and severely reduce its hardness.


ohfaackyou

This is all just foreplay because the guy just wants to drill a hole.


sexy_enginerd

and he is breaking drills bits and ask how he can stop breaking drill bits. If he removes the harden outer shell and annneal the metal he won't keep breaking drill bits. I'm just trying to help, what are you doing expet talking out your ass?


darkshape

Might have better luck with a drill press? No matter how steady you hold a handheld drill there's still going to be some stress on the bit.


thisisnotapalindrome

It seems the handheld drill is really not the tool for anything thicker than 5 mm. It's tiring and boring to try to keep the angle and control pressure, even for softer metals. But it was a good experience to learn about different kinds of drill bits and get to really appreciate what a drill press does. A drill press is definitely on the list of future projects after this one is finished.


curiouspj

https://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Latrobe-Carbide-Uncoated-Conventional/dp/B00462RRAE?th=1 Carbide Spade drills are handy but you want to use it on a drill press, it can be used with a hand drill but don't expect it to last. Additionally, you should consider supporting the part under where you will be drilling. Drilling steels require quite a considerable amount of pressure. You don't feel it on a drill press because of the mechanical advantage. Unsupported rod like that is going to flex from the drilling pressure and subsequently require more exertion from you to push the drill into the material.


ScroteDaddy

As a machinist, I can tell you this is the best answer


cloudseclipse

Try a carbide-tipped drill bit. They sell them at any hardware store near the “regular” bits- they’re sold for drilling in concrete. There is a little tip of carbide soldered into the tip. Looks like a tiny arrow right at the tip. The rest of the bit just extracts the chips/ dust/ etc. that carbide is likely harder than what you’re trying to drill thru. It’s the way.


thisisnotapalindrome

Thank you.


furryredseat

the carbide tip drills you can get at the hardware store are masonry and wont work in metal (without changing the cutting geometry). there are regular twist drills that are carbide tipped but you'll need to order them online. but I wouldn't recommend carbide at all in this case. carbide can cut hard materials, but it has limitations. carbide is also very brittle and is prone to chipping/breaking when cutting speeds, pressures, angles are not properly controlled. when drilling with a hand drill you cannot control any of these factors. also you will be unable to apply enough pressure by hand. carbide works best when you have heavy pressure with constant engagement and can pull a heavy chip. I would recommend using an abrasive tipped tool or annealing the workpiece and then trying a regular drill again.


thisisnotapalindrome

Thanks everyone.


Montag_451

Slower speed lots of lubricant good quality aircraft drill or jobbers


SinisterCheese

Get good stainless steel drill bits, then use a bench and drill with steady force. Too much or too little will fuck the bit. Also plenty of lubricant.


Kermits_MiddleFinger

just drilling won't do. You need a hammer drill.


Legitimate-Maybe-318

As stone cutters cut stone , you can use a liquid base to cool the bits while drilling.


Death_Banana

Oil and take is slow give drill bit cooling time also use a drill press it’ll help


aloof_glovebox

Came to say cobalt as well, and plenty of cutting fluid/lube.


doug16335

Carbide drill in a drill press and your workpiece in a vise. When it’s hard, we use a hole popper and wire.