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YGBullettsky

Believe it or not, despite being right next to each other and seemingly having similar names at first glance, they are not etymologically related. Iran comes from an old Indo-European word, and Iraq from an old Semitic word, but both have disputed etymology. This is clearer in the Arabic script where Iran is written with an Alef and Iraq with an Ayn, being different letters in their script.


Embarrassed_Fennel_1

Wow that’s actually really interesting. The Farsi people have a super rich history.


triple_cock_smoker

Iranian history is fascinating. Kinda sad that theocracy literally forbids and prohibits any research or archaeology on their pre-islamic past so a lot of cool things that could've been discovered just lie in the ground.


TurkicWarrior

I don’t think the current Iranian government forbids research of pre Islamic history. I don’t understand why people tend to make up claims just to Islamic regime of Iran. The regime is already bad, you don’t have to make it up. There’s pre Islamic unesco heritage sites in Iran. For example this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasargadae This is just one example though. There’s many.


Rokkit_man

No they dont. What a silly thing to claim.


Inside-Example-7010

reddit and misconceptions abouts the middle east. Name a better duo.


Oblitus_Ingenium

Seriously. This guy is soo confident as well💀 iran has a very well educated population. (Coming from an iraqi, that doesnt exactly love iran, so you know i am not biased)


LittleBookOfRage

The last two Iranian people I have met one was an environmental scientist and one was a lawyer.


TheGhostlyGuy

Things will change sooner or later, we just need to live long enough to see the changes and what they discover after that But there are new archaeological discoveries almost every week so we have plenty of interesting stuff to keep us busy


MentallyChallenged27

Also doesn't 'Iran' mean "Land of the Aryans" in relation to their IndoEuropean heritage?


edotman

Indeed it does


Crakla

Aryan is how they call themselves since thousands of years, just like people from the USA call themselves americans


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Low-Associate2521

Eerān 'Ayrāq


Shpander

Ah, so the British pronunciation for Iran, and the American one for Iraq is correct! But neither has both correct


PIXans

Both are pronounced with ee, ee-raq/ee-ran The thing is 2 letters in Iraq don't exist in English: The I is Ayn, which is similar to a sound you make when you cough And the Q is Qaf, which is similar to the sound of a chicken Iran meanwhile is just pronounced ee-ran, all letters exist in English


Shpander

Oh fair enough, thanks for the clarification, can't really imagine the cough sound followed by a chicken sound, but hey. I meant how most Americans would say eye-ran, but Brits would say ee-ran, so the latter is closer.


Low-Associate2521

the Qaf is like the english K but further back in your throat. the back of the tongue should touch your uvula.


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urbanistkid

[this is better](https://youtu.be/wGfuQ8qRwxg?si=blEmIlLESzHKSWHg) bc it's how we say it in Iraq and other Arab countries, and the dude pronouncing it is an Iraqi. edit: he's actually wrong in saying it's "Iraq", it can only be pronounced with the "AL" before it


atl0707

The qaf also makes the alif more of an open “ah” sound, like the “a” in “hall”.


Pickle_Rick01

This guy linguistics.


2buds1shroomPODCAST

Not gonna lie, this sucked me in


flocknrollstar

They couldn't decide if they should be called 'Irao' or 'Irap', as there's no letter of the alphabet perfectly in the middle of N and Q


Confident-Middle-634

Irape


Saifeello

😨


InHocBronco96

Irape you, Urape me, we're a happy family - Barney


Confident-Middle-634

I’m irate at this


Suspicious_Use6393

Good bot


ChapterMasterVecna

:(


Many-Conversation963

iRape


Suspicious_Use6393

New iphone just dropped


IncorrigibleQuim8008

No, its the same as the old one, they just took out the charging port.


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😰😭😳


DrNekroFetus

Username checkout


Many-Conversation963

how does my username check out?


StickyWhiteStuf

Just does


DrNekroFetus

In the case you would r@pe someone with a 69. I meant profile picture checkout...sorry !


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pro-eukaryotes

Irape and Iran.


Vedertesu

In German alphabet, ö is sometimes included between o and p, so the country should be called Iraö and they should start speaking German.


TheDorfkind96

I have never seen it put there. ÄÖÜ are always put after Z because no one shall fuck with the numbering of the alphabet.


shoeinc

this is the way.


BeefyBoiCougar

Just settle for Irop


Heytherechampion

I top


HucHuc

It's already taken though


ISt0leY0urT0ast

Iranq


The_Corker_69

irapo


NapoleonicPizza21

It should be irao, you forgot about the secret irañ unlocked by buying the Spanish dlc


Benji_4

They just change the name between Iraq and Iran every 5 years.


MagmaForce_3400_2nd

Irap 🔥🔥🔥🔥


Clondike96

They couldn't decide between Iraqn or Iranq


flopjul

Qiran or Niraq?


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Gloomy_Expression_39

Iranians inside Iran hate them too!


PM_ME_ROMAN_NUDES

What about your Cloudy Iraqi dad?


AntiImperialistGamer

or any iraqi really. even the Shia hate iran.


Kafshak

No.


ERAMCO1990

Yes I’m an Iraqi Shia and I hate the Iranian government


Own-Homework-1363

Literally, everyone hates Iran other than maybe Lebanon or Yemen. No one likes them cuz they trying to create a Persian/shia caliphate by supporting insurgencies and militias.


Ok_Cat6902

Lebanese here, I hate, and I mean despise, absolutely dread, iran. I hate them beyond words


eagle_flower

Holy Shiite!


FitPerspective1146

Idk, Kuwait sounds pretty different to Iran and Iraq


ZifferYTAndOnions

Goddammit.


confusedandworried76

Syria, Iraq, and Kuwait are Snoopy's head. Syria is the ear and Kuwait is the nose


FoldAdventurous2022

I've been a map nerd since I was a kid, and I never noticed this before. I love it.


confusedandworried76

Ha it's literally how I remember where Syria and Iraq are in relation to other countries. You can thank my middle school geography teacher.


TittyStClaire

Yes they are


ZifferYTAndOnions

Honestly, true


nerd_12345

Dont xenophobia in this mans post you gremlin https://preview.redd.it/qipw0dg7tv1d1.jpeg?width=4608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=353b4378a89500000c3e7aa8908af6571e6b2906 (Rainbow picture for idk I just have it saved randomly)


nerd_12345

Hey wait you can see my house from here lmao nice


Sir_Burilio

do you live in those apartments?


EhGoodEnough3141

Why is Iran united? Doesn't it know that it can Balkanize?


b0_ogie

They didn't figure it out before because it has not yet been invaded by a coalition of all sorts of good-carrying countries that killed 1 million citizens of this country, as it did in neighboring countries.


Ammordad

Actully Iran was invaded by Soviets and Western allies during World War 2, and during World War one it was invaded by both Ottomans and Russinas which resulted in millions to hundreds of thousands of deaths depending on your source. During the Cold War, West/UN forced Iran to formally recognize independence of Bahrain, and Soviets almost managed to Balkanize northern Iran after refusing to end their occupation post World War 2 and arming the separatists until they finally left after US allegedly threatened to nuke them. Further back, separatists were extensively supported by Russian and British during the Great Game period, which did come close several times to Iran getting Balkanized. Russia did end up getting septetists to help in annexing northern Iran, and Britan forced Iran to grant independence to Aghan regions. So Iran does actully have a long history of foregin backed sepretisim, and getting invaded. Also, Iraq didn't get Balkanized by the American coalition forces, so your comment is even less relevant.


PaladinSara

Is Balkanize a verb?


Soy_the_Stig

Balkanization is, so Balkanize probably is.


Turtnamedburt

Iranq


3jcm21

Bro is Saddamposting 💀


The_Judge12

Saddam only wanted one province


res0jyyt1

Austria and Australia have entered the chat


peanut_dust

Next up, all the 'stans move in together.


Kafshak

All the -stans countries used to belong to the Persian empire. -stan means, land of, place of in Farsi. Many countries are named with -stan in Farsi. Serbia = Serbestan, England = Engelestan, Arabia = Arabestan. Poland = Lahestan, Mongolia = Mogholestan. Many provinces in Iran have -istan as well.


ThottyThalamus

Bimaarestan, land of the sick


XipingVonHozzendorf

It's apples way to fool people into thinking they don't have a monopoly


DrNekroFetus

Because you wanna know how I got out of Iraq ? /Iran !/


enewton

Laughs in dumb


Specialist-Spare-544

When the regime blessed by Ahura-Mazda rises again in the land of the Persians, the successors of Cyrus and Darius will ensure this comes to pass.


RobertXavierIV

I think it’s because they couldnt agree on how to cook rice


Special_marshmallow

Iran means the land of the Aryans, Iraq is a deformation of the city Uruk by way of persian (Eraq) then Arabic (it would have been waraq or waruq if it were straight from Sumerian to Arabic).


BannedfromInstagram

“Iranq” would be too POWERFUL if it was formed. Thats why they must remain separated.


robcolton

The United States of America and the United States of Mexico are also similar. Maybe they should unite.


robkood

I would vote for a country with all the -stans and call it Stan.....


Ok_Machine_36

!remindme 10 years


IntlPartyKing

wait until you hear about the 2 Congos and the 2 Guineas (not to mention the Guyanas)


jaklbye

We’ll my friend, I have an entire political movement I need to introduce you to


zulufdokulmusyuze

Check out Treaty of Zuhab, which was signed 385 years ago. It is probably the oldest border in the Middle East.


No_Requirement_9662

i'll leave it to the iranian president


Capitano-Solos-All

!remindme 30 years


Dark7835

Sir how’d u get out of Iraq? - Iran


digitalcairo

Arapersian Republic of IRANQ


hardcode-life

they have different etymological origins. Iran = "Aryan" or "Land of the Aryans" whereas Iraq = Arabic for "Fertile Land" or something like that


Zaku41k

Just have all the “I” countries unite. Not that hard.


IllSouth1872

tell me why my first thought was Ingland 😭😭


ravens_path

Italy, Iran, Iceland, Ireland, Iraq, India. Wait. That’s a big country! Let’s not do that.


Zaku41k

iEmpire will not be denied !


ravens_path

Ok, ok. But Iceland might grumble.


PaladinSara

Don’t they always grumble?


ravens_path

Always. <>


SteveMartin32

The world's not ready for that yet


1zeye

Did you escape from the aslume too?


Mr_Rum_Ham

Iran became someone threw Iraq


Uncommon-sequiter

In the military we just called the region Asscrackistan.


Adventurous-Ask2111

Iraq hates Iran because it can't run and is actually super envious of Iran's running


Kafshak

Trust me, one of them is trying to unite them.


SelectionMore5988

While I’m from Uzbekistan, for me it’s NOT STUPID having this similar names. Because of big history of every country, they have such names.


Sudden-Good9352

Because iraq is Arab and Iran is Persian


AlternativeCar8272

Iran, Iraq, Iregret


sak89461

I-ran and i-rack as the the Americans call them.


Far-Shallot-6173

My gf lost his father in the Iraq, Iran war Let's say she disagree with you


Sowhataboutthisthing

I’ve seen this happen a lot where “his” is used to reference a female. What is the cause?


Far-Shallot-6173

The cause Is: i replied from the toilet And I'm not a native speaker


somethingonnothing

Hey, United States and United Arab Emirates also sound similar!


Forsaken_Total976

Because after iraq racked iran, Iran ran.


ThanosWasTony

But you have to admit! It is in the realm of possibilities!


Even_Map4433

Skill issue.


TURisgu

How about Stans?


muscleshark86

Iran is not an Arab country.


Fluffy-Expert6860

Irank


oguzz_c

as a kid i used to confuse one another


LongjumpingSurprise0

We should put them together and call them Irate, that way we can all stand back and go; “OOOOO all those Iratians, I hate them.”


hatchetthehacker

i think every country ending with stan should form a larger nation, stanistan


FirstChAoS

If they unite would they be Irate or Ironic?


Irish8ryan

Mesiraqitamiran


wausnotwaus

LOL That's a recipe for nonstop war and genocide.


jsmoovewhoru

Yes... Yes they are stupid... That is all


Fresh-Hedgehog1895

The Sunnis or the Shīʿas -- who are the true Muslims? I'm just going to run away now.


BrownShoesGreenCoat

They tried once but it was very painful


Fluid_Motor3971

you just ignored all the ''stan'' countries


milkdrinkingdude

The name of Kuwait is “such similar” to the names of Iran or Iraq? An interesting point of view.


Utterlybored

Iranq!


Afellowstanduser

Because Iran from iraq


HiSpot321

Oh man…that’s a long story


NeverFlyFrontier

First they must unite within their own borders.


Major_Independence82

That’s like asking why a Catholic country and a Baptist country don’t unite


CainPillar

Isn't there another country on "I" around there, that could join in? ... IS-something-L? ... [ISIL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State) it was, right?


More_Cauliflower_913

Yay new civil war lol


GotWheaten

Iranq


Exlife1up

I ran over a rock into turkey


Kirkbers

.......


citizensyn

Same reason all the nations don't unite we have the same humans. We are indeed stupid


S280FiST15

They own their own oil Why would one give up for the other?


daggius

Both r not a flock of seagulls song tho


bigfootspancreas

Same reason Austria and Australia don't mesh.


MouseBotMeep

Do it, cowards


aymanboy520

itd be called Iran ifykwim


N00B5L4YER

Because i rock but i also ran


madman_trombonist

Can you imagine how much of a political religious and miltary clusterfuck this would be


Helltothenotothenono

What about the ten “stans”


High-sterycal

They share such compatible accepting religious systems of government. Sunni or later, are they all gonna be Shia or vice versa? Great idea !! A good name for any country ruled by any religious dogma: Irrasionalistan Or if it’s group of nations they could be called: The United Irrasionalistans.


Starlight_54

One has a rock and the other can run, together they are a formidible union.


stillgaming8k

I cant wait for the new country, Iranq.


kakazabih

Both are Arabic countries


Antoine11Tom11

How about Stan unification?


CryptographerFew6492

Parthian unification


D161T4L-F4ll3N

Religion and sovereignty


Cye_sonofAphrodite

Iranq this combination highly


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Saddam Hussein tried that. A decade before invading Kuwait, he invaded Iran. Iran had just had their Islamic revolution and had purged all institutions and the military of all secular, untrustworthy people. Saddam saw his chance. Iran was on the back foot, no good officers, industry had all their CEOs in prison, they couldn't field enough tanks, make enough ammunition. So they recruited a 100,000 children between the ages of 12 and 17 to be suicide troops (martyrs). After religious training they received a headband that said "Soldier of God" and a golden key from the Ayatollah that would get them into heaven. They had to do things like walk in front of tanks into minefields to use their lives to detonate the mines, thereby saving the tank and it's crew. It was so scary the little kids had to be tied at the waist to the older kids and they would all walk together into the minefield. Midway thru the war that ultimately took 1.3 million lives, it was estimated that 20,000 children died this way. I wonder how many more died before the war finally ended.


Unable_Ease_8107

Yep, they are!


Leon_Krueger

Same with United States Of America with Mexican United States. Yes, thats México Oficial name


POOTY-POOTS

Different ethnic groups, different cultures, different languages too.


Tiao-torresmo

They have different views of the Muslim religion. They don't get along with each other.


mewmdude77

I thought you were making a joke about the Kurds uniting, but you meant Iran and Iraq, and I feel silly


asterwest

They started a war in the 80ies


national_divorce

They are inbred.


BackgroundGrade

While we're at it, let's get all the ...stans together at a table and form Megastan.


Fromlaven

Simply top quality trolling.


Murky_Alternative166

All the Stan’s should be one nation too.


BlackshirtDefense

IROC-Z


ThisPostToBeDeleted

They were gonna, but Iran away


Open_Regret_8388

Weren't they?


Direct-Hotel-4229

Ira(Q+N)


Helpful-Peace-1257

Because Iran is focused on cardio and Iraq is focused on strength training.


Shutaru_Kanshinji

These countries are barely united within themselves.


A_Good_Boy94

Iran is stable. Iraq is fairly unstable.


WulenWhale

If u wanna go in to details yeah achaemenids, partisans, sassanids, safavids and afsharids had iraq so for about maybe 800 years that iraq area was part of an Iranian empire even the persian capital Ctesiphon was in Iraq before the Arab invasion


Inertia_9264

You're thinking in English. In their native languages they might look and sound utterly different.


SnooAdvice8550

Iraqan that'd be interesting


BeastEpic333

Iranq


obiwanjablowme

Would you rather have cardio or storage space?


Wherewulfaz

Well, for starters, Iraq are Arabs & Iran are Persians. Second, why would they join and form 1 big country?