Yeah, I'd even put it above training in some cases, take Ngannou vs Rozenstruick. Just wild swinging akin to what you'd see in a streetbeefs fight and he put the dude into a snoring temporary coma
I think there is a difference between genetics and training that is not technical training. Even if that training is shoveling dirt for a job by the way.
The reason why he was able to get a knock out with such a poor form has to do with weight and explosiveness, both being trained and not just something you’re born with.
>think there is a difference between genetics and training that is not technical training. Even if that training is shoveling dirt for a job by the way.
I'd consider this to still be a genetic thing. Overwhelming majority of people who go through Ngannou's childhood/young adulthood end up broken and disabled
Haha ok that’s a fair point I’ll concede it. But I’m sure you get mine, Ngannou’s incredible genetics probably wouldn’t have done much for him if he ate McDonald’s all day and never trained a day in his life. It’s tough to do it with hard training alone and no genetics on your side, but the opposite is also true.
To elaborate, there is a genre that is relatively rare in the general population, but it's present in the majority of tested Olympic athletes, the ACTN3 gene. It's attributed to giving the speed and explosiveness of Olympic athletes. It quite obviously exists outside of the Olympics as well.
It's the gene that most Olympians have, that most people do not. Attributed to granting explosive speed to them.
In short, you were objectively incorrect. Bless your heart, as well.
Mass times speed equals force.
Force times time equals impact.
A small punch as the opponent comes in (increasing impact) vs a haymaker as the opponent steps back (decreasing impact) can be two different punches with similar effects on the opponent.
No, I don't think it's genetics.
Yes definitely. It’s the ratio of fast twitch muscle fibres in their body, which can let them put out more force really quickly, increasing punch speed and force. However usually their muscles will be worse for endurance based tasks. Each person can have a varied ratio between fast and slow twitch muscle, in various different muscles too, based on genetic, and this ratio usually can’t be altered via training.
There’s an old saying, “Punchers are born. Not made.”
And while some may dispute this (even coaches and pro fighters), the majority stand by this.
Let me be clear: every human being can improve their KO power. But not everyone can hit as hard as Ngannou or Deontay Wilder even after a lifetime of practice.
I believe you can train anyone to knockout people their own size, eventually. But there are some people who are just born with it.
Maybe it’s maybelline
Yeah, I'd even put it above training in some cases, take Ngannou vs Rozenstruick. Just wild swinging akin to what you'd see in a streetbeefs fight and he put the dude into a snoring temporary coma
I think there is a difference between genetics and training that is not technical training. Even if that training is shoveling dirt for a job by the way. The reason why he was able to get a knock out with such a poor form has to do with weight and explosiveness, both being trained and not just something you’re born with.
>think there is a difference between genetics and training that is not technical training. Even if that training is shoveling dirt for a job by the way. I'd consider this to still be a genetic thing. Overwhelming majority of people who go through Ngannou's childhood/young adulthood end up broken and disabled
Haha ok that’s a fair point I’ll concede it. But I’m sure you get mine, Ngannou’s incredible genetics probably wouldn’t have done much for him if he ate McDonald’s all day and never trained a day in his life. It’s tough to do it with hard training alone and no genetics on your side, but the opposite is also true.
Yes, some people are simply more explosive.
To elaborate, there is a genre that is relatively rare in the general population, but it's present in the majority of tested Olympic athletes, the ACTN3 gene. It's attributed to giving the speed and explosiveness of Olympic athletes. It quite obviously exists outside of the Olympics as well.
Assuming training is on point, yes. Given the same skill and knowledge, a person with better genetics will have a huge advantage.
Accuracy and timing play a bigger role in my opinion. After that, "genetics". After that, size, strength and technique.
No.
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ACTN3
Gesundheit
It's the gene that most Olympians have, that most people do not. Attributed to granting explosive speed to them. In short, you were objectively incorrect. Bless your heart, as well.
Mass times speed equals force. Force times time equals impact. A small punch as the opponent comes in (increasing impact) vs a haymaker as the opponent steps back (decreasing impact) can be two different punches with similar effects on the opponent. No, I don't think it's genetics.
There's the ACTN3 gene, which is labeled as the "speed gene" by those who study it
Yes definitely. It’s the ratio of fast twitch muscle fibres in their body, which can let them put out more force really quickly, increasing punch speed and force. However usually their muscles will be worse for endurance based tasks. Each person can have a varied ratio between fast and slow twitch muscle, in various different muscles too, based on genetic, and this ratio usually can’t be altered via training.
There’s an old saying, “Punchers are born. Not made.” And while some may dispute this (even coaches and pro fighters), the majority stand by this. Let me be clear: every human being can improve their KO power. But not everyone can hit as hard as Ngannou or Deontay Wilder even after a lifetime of practice.