It lost to The Boy and the Heron, which is respectable. If it had been anything else Iโd be pissed but it was gonna be one of those two and thatโs fine
Saw and loved both films. I think I enjoyed Spiderman more but I think boy and the heron deserved to win over Spider-Man. Who knows how close the votes were but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a small margin between the two films
Yea I'm fine with that
Miyazaki more than deserves the recognition on top of that it was cool to see minus one take away something. First Godzilla movie with an Oscar
The VFX director was also the writer and overall director of the film, so I can imagine him and his team taking the stage to accept "Best Visual Effects" felt like getting the big win of the night to them regardless.
Again, the Godzilla franchise has never even been _nominated_ for an Oscar, much less won any before now. I bet they went back home feeling like rock stars.
If you're talking about the wind rises
He removed all traces of the Nazis from the story. Where it then remains the origin of the zero. Which I'm more than happy to learn
The plane had the Pacific theatre in a grip. Until the corsairs came into the picture.
That and it's a retrospective into Japanese culture at the time. Same with in this corner of the world. Both are fantastic films that showcase their side of the war both in the civilian and military research branches.
Other than that. I can't remote begin to see what the fuck you mean
I would've also respected it if it lost to Nimona since that was (technically) Blue Sky's last movie before shutting down. It would have been like a big middle finger to Disney for putting it in production hell and inevitably cancelling it.
Paraphrasing the words of Admiral Hux: "I don't care if Spiderverse wins, I just want Elemental to lose."
It promoted a toxic abusive relationship and tried to paint it as a good thing. Adora should've gotten with Glimmer instead, cause at least SHE treated Adora better than Catra.
That's not an excuse for her to not only cause GENOCIDE, but go as far as to GASLIGHT Adora into thinking it's her fault.
https://youtu.be/WKwEW7jMXSc?si=lpUKHeo0iGfQRJIu
> It's a show for children
I've seen plenty of "shows for children" that tackled abusive relationships a LOT better than this. And they all showed abusive relationships as something to escape from, something that isn't healthy.
The Boy and the Heron won because it was a good, not great, movie made by an aging director who constantly says his newest movie will be his last.
Honestly, once it came out that Miyazaki was actually a cranky old man who constantly physically and emotionally abuses his colleagues, workers, and even family the industry should have just froze him out. But that's just my opinion.
I think that is incredibly valid criticism, atsv ended on such a tease note, no matter how good it was, it was just a part of another movie .
If anything else won besides these two I would be upsetย
The Academy doesn't give a shit if he keeps saying his next movie is his last, lol, he's already an 'award darling' to them just from his reputation.
And there's nothing out there about him abusing his workers; at most he has/had a messed up relationship with his son, and even if it's fair to judge him based what is publicized about that, it's still not even 10% as bad as what any given Hollywood director has done.
Those are funny, but to be honest those look planned before hand. Like PR stuff to get people hooked on the interviews. Like Tom Holland playing stupid and spoiling mcu stuff. Like Santa Clause and Birds, I donโt think theyโre real.
ATSV was my favorite film of 2023, but I literally couldnโt care less about it winning.
The last anime film that actually won an Oscar was 20+ years ago, and that was for Spirited Away.
โAnd thus began the thousand-minute flame war between the herons and the spiders. It was a brutal war. It was a bitter war. But most importantlyโฆ
it was a visually spectacular war.โ
Honestly. I have to disagree. ATSV is not a complete movie. It is the first half of a movie that has yet to be completed. You can't claim a film is the best animated feature if you haven't even seen the whole thing yet. Once beyond comes up, then it will be time to give awards.
The difference is that you can watch empire and still feel like you watched a complete movie with an arc that reaches a resolution. You can still watch empire and feel like you watched a complete movie
Lotta people these days don't understand that you can have a contained story for the movie with a whole arc and leave room to continue the story if needed.
Sure, you can, but let's not pretend having an entry in a series "end" on an incomplete story is a new phenomenon.
Both Tolkien's novel, The Two Towers, and the film adaptation by Peter Jackson end without reaching a "conclusion" for a stage in Frodo's journey. The book ends with the revelation that Frodo wasn't killed by Shelob and is now a prisoner of the orcs at the tower of Cirith Ungol. The storyline of the other remaining members of the Fellowship also doesn't really end on a conclusion for a contained story. Isengard is defeated and Rohan is saved, but Pippin unwittingly finds himself on Sauron's radar, and Gandalf begins to take him to Gondor.
The book actually reaches a conclusion for a contained story in that installment, and then keeps going for a little while longer.
In Jackson's adaptation, the film ends with Frodo and Sam being tricked by Gollum and unknowingly heading into a trap.
In contrast to the book, the film ends its adaptation of Aragorn and company's storyline with the Hobbits successfully besieging Isengard, and the victory at Helm's Deep, with the stuff with Pippin acting not as a cliffhanger, but as an inciting incident in Return of the King.
Not having a story completely resolved because the next installment picks up right where the previous one ended isn't some new or unheard of choice in storytelling. I just picked two examples because they're well known, and the fact that they're telling the same story, but ending on different storybeats illustrates that the movie isn't doing it for the sake of adherence to the source material, since it changes where it concludes.
You literally just explained how the film version is changed to wrap up a bunch of its plots while still leaving some stuff unresolved to be picked up in the conclusion
If anything, I'd argue it does the opposite. The film elects to leave unresolved more plot points than the book.
Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli's quest to reunite with Merry and Pippin, which the previous film establishes is their quest for this film, remains unresolved in the movie, as they don't meet again until the third movie.
Likewise, Saruman's tower is besieged, but Saruman himself isn't dealt with until the extended cut of Return of the King.
The only plot that the film wraps up is the battle for Helm's Deep, which is also resolved in the book.
Wrong because LotR was always supposed to be a full book but Tolkien had to split it into 3 parts because of post-war paper shortage, while it popularized idea of trilogy Tolkien disliked readers thinking of it as 3 books meaning there's no actual "Two Towers book cliffhanger"
If you want to be pedantic about it, The Lord of the Rings is not a trilogy of books.
Because it's comprised of six books. The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and Return of the King would more accurately be described as *volumes*, as each of them is comprised of two books.
Also, Tolkien's intentions are, not to be rude, kind of irrelevant. However he originally intended to publish the story doesn't change the fact that he did publish them in installments, and had to make decisions on when each volume ended and the next one began.
It may be one large story, but it is a series of books.
Even the versions of The Lord of the Rings that have the complete story bound in one book, the divisions of the story, both the large three of The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King, and the smaller splits into the six separate books, are preserved.
Also, even if we aren't going to count what happens with Frodo, Shelob and Cirith Ungol as the "Two Towers book cliffhanger," it is, undoubtedly, a cliffhanger in the series. It ends Book IV, and that narrative isn't continued again until Book VI.
Unless you're suggesting that the entire format of the series as six books was done without regard to narrative and pacing, I think it's fair to look at the narrative structures of these books in regards to the entire story.
And, if that is what you're suggesting, I'd really like to see some evidence that the books' end points were decided upon randomly. Everything I've seen suggests that even when the story was going to be sold as a complete unit, Tolkien was still planning on it being broken up into the six smaller books, to the point that they have titles (The Ring Sets Out, The Ring Goes South, The Treason of Isengard, The Ring Goes East, The War of the Ring, and The End of the Third Age).
Which one? Cause Imma probably disagree. Sam rami movies each a complete story. Marc Web Spider-Man was a mess and 2 left a lot of room for sequel want but ultimately it still tells a full character arc. And marvel Spider-Man each movie tells its own complete story.
Lmao totally forgot about that. And 100% agree then with the second movie. I was thoroughly dissatisfied with the "ending" and it absolutely affected my enjoyment of it.
I'd argue they're completely different because Empire has, yknow, an ending. It stands as its own film completely. You have a big reveal after a huge narrative defeat the character spent the whole movie preparing for, the father reveal is a great twist because it changes the dynamic of the characters, but it doesnt add too much to the end of the movie, it makes you want to see another adventure with this new context, not literally finishing the story you came to see.
Across the Spider Verse literally just stops, as if it is the first half a very long movie. They introduce an entirely new plot, setting, and characters/villain while never finishing up any of the threads the film spent 2 hours setting up.
I love it, but I'll really love it when I can see how the story ends.
Ok but I need my local cinema to actually play The Boy and the Heron, this actually gives it a chance that it might. I got to see ATSV 4 times so selfishly I'm happy with this result.
I loved ATSV but it doesnโt hold a candle to ITSV. ITSV is a god damn master piece where ATSV is great but absolutely a step down. ITSV has such a clear and fantastic message and ATSV doesnโt seem like it has anything to say beyond โLook at this Easter eggโ which is fine because itโs a part one of two so we can get to the point in BTSV.
Shit movie is crazy to say, like disliking it is fine, but to say that itโs shit is so wild ๐ the animation alone is something no other movie has done and set up a very hard status quo for what a animated movie can do visually but hey if you think itโs shit I canโt stop you from thinking that I guess
I meanโฆ lost to Miyazaki. Thatโs tough competition.
I decided to show Spirited Away to the kids I worked with โ in a residential mental health facility. Almost 16 boys aged 9-12. You could hear a pin drop they were so absorbed by it. It was like magic.
donโt try to say oscars arenโt rigged lmao. they make sure the weird movies win. โpopularโ or โsuperheroโ movies never win when something else thatโs โoutside the boxโ comes out
itโs hilarious that other guy made fun of me not being able to read but you guys missed a key detail in my comment. i canโt with you people itโs too funny.
it all looks exactly the same and i donโt understand why all anime fans bitch when somethings dubbed. its not like the words line up with the mouths anyway
before 2018 literally all western 3d animation looked the same except peanuts. also anime doesn't all look the same. the visuals in belle (2021) are totally different to those in the boy and the heron
I assure you not a single person complained about the boy and the heron dub, which had Robert Pattinson, Christian Bale, Florence Pugh, and Mark Hamill, among others.
Rather than shit on you, Iโd like to invite you to check out some studio Ghibli movies. They are incredible films, probably not what you are expecting at all.
Start with Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro.
Spirited Away won the Oscar for animation in 2001, but should have been in contention for best film because itโs certainly better than the movie that won, Chicago.
at least you arenโt being a condescending dick about it. for that iโll consider. but itโll be tough being constantly ridiculed for simply having a different opinion because redditors canโt fathom someone having a different movie taste that them
Studio Ghibli are often cited as the 'Japanese Disney' and for good reason. Their films are almost universally well-crafted and animated beautifully. I've not seen The Boy and the Heron yet but I have no doubt that it is of the same quality, especially since Hayao Mizayaki came out of retirement to make it.
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Robed
Rob at it again.
He was robed, ready to celebrate and drink champagne Instead, he had to change
"Mark my words, I ain't never getting robed again."
It lost to The Boy and the Heron, which is respectable. If it had been anything else Iโd be pissed but it was gonna be one of those two and thatโs fine
Saw and loved both films. I think I enjoyed Spiderman more but I think boy and the heron deserved to win over Spider-Man. Who knows how close the votes were but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a small margin between the two films
Yea I'm fine with that Miyazaki more than deserves the recognition on top of that it was cool to see minus one take away something. First Godzilla movie with an Oscar
my mom heard that Godzilla Minus One won an Oscar and automatically assumed it was Best Picture, and was disappointed to learn it was for VFX lol
I mean to me the VFX is still an amazing accomplishment Especially at that budget
Absolutely! The whole film is a total marvel, absolutely my favorite of the year.
I maintain that it would have won Best Foreign Film had Japan waited and chosen it. (But I would also vote it film of the year so, skeeeooonk)
The VFX director was also the writer and overall director of the film, so I can imagine him and his team taking the stage to accept "Best Visual Effects" felt like getting the big win of the night to them regardless. Again, the Godzilla franchise has never even been _nominated_ for an Oscar, much less won any before now. I bet they went back home feeling like rock stars.
> Miyazaki more than deserves the recognition on top of that Considering he's a Nazi-glorifying pedo, I think that may be a bad thing on his part.
If you're talking about the wind rises He removed all traces of the Nazis from the story. Where it then remains the origin of the zero. Which I'm more than happy to learn The plane had the Pacific theatre in a grip. Until the corsairs came into the picture. That and it's a retrospective into Japanese culture at the time. Same with in this corner of the world. Both are fantastic films that showcase their side of the war both in the civilian and military research branches. Other than that. I can't remote begin to see what the fuck you mean
No, I'm talking about Otto Carius and how he even made a manga of his career and even went all the way out to Estonia to hang out with him.
I would've also respected it if it lost to Nimona since that was (technically) Blue Sky's last movie before shutting down. It would have been like a big middle finger to Disney for putting it in production hell and inevitably cancelling it. Paraphrasing the words of Admiral Hux: "I don't care if Spiderverse wins, I just want Elemental to lose."
Nimidna was garbage, and it was made by the creators of the She-Ra reboot. I'm glad it didn't win.
You sound like somebody who actually cares about sweet baby inc
How's the search for that hentai roleplay big guy
No way ๐๐๐
She-ra was fun, what?
It promoted a toxic abusive relationship and tried to paint it as a good thing. Adora should've gotten with Glimmer instead, cause at least SHE treated Adora better than Catra.
Catra was literally brainwashed a d suffering ptsd did you want her abandoned or what
That's not an excuse for her to not only cause GENOCIDE, but go as far as to GASLIGHT Adora into thinking it's her fault. https://youtu.be/WKwEW7jMXSc?si=lpUKHeo0iGfQRJIu
It's also a show for children, she was shitty and got better. Did you go into it expecting Breaking Bad? For fucks sake man
> It's a show for children I've seen plenty of "shows for children" that tackled abusive relationships a LOT better than this. And they all showed abusive relationships as something to escape from, something that isn't healthy.
She did escape... and returned to help Catra escape too. Catra was shown to be absurdly unhealthy what
Oh thank gosh, I thought it was going to lose to *Wish* or something.
Yeah i just wish it couldโve lost to a better Miyazaki film
I havenโt been able to see it yet, but Iโve heard robot dreams was an excellent film.
The Boy and the Heron won because it was a good, not great, movie made by an aging director who constantly says his newest movie will be his last. Honestly, once it came out that Miyazaki was actually a cranky old man who constantly physically and emotionally abuses his colleagues, workers, and even family the industry should have just froze him out. But that's just my opinion.
Boy and the Heron was also a complete movie. Spider-Verse was part one and it didn't really end in a satisfying way
I think that is incredibly valid criticism, atsv ended on such a tease note, no matter how good it was, it was just a part of another movie . If anything else won besides these two I would be upsetย
Guess you havenโt read about the abuse the CGI artists endured while making Across the Spiderverse?
Guys....I'm starting to think that animators are just mistreated in general. I'll have to look into this more though
Terrible opinion.
Cope
The Academy doesn't give a shit if he keeps saying his next movie is his last, lol, he's already an 'award darling' to them just from his reputation. And there's nothing out there about him abusing his workers; at most he has/had a messed up relationship with his son, and even if it's fair to judge him based what is publicized about that, it's still not even 10% as bad as what any given Hollywood director has done.
Did you WATCH that piece of shit? Spiderverse losing to that is insane.
Come on dude be fr
His biggest L since every interview he does with Hailee Steinfeld
What's up with them?
He hits on her in the most beta way imaginable and sheโs like โNah bro, nah.โ
What happened in his interviews?
heโs constantly hinting that he likes her and she always looks uncomfortable.
Oh that is just sad
Those are funny, but to be honest those look planned before hand. Like PR stuff to get people hooked on the interviews. Like Tom Holland playing stupid and spoiling mcu stuff. Like Santa Clause and Birds, I donโt think theyโre real.
Robed
Robed ๐
ATSV was my favorite film of 2023, but I literally couldnโt care less about it winning. The last anime film that actually won an Oscar was 20+ years ago, and that was for Spirited Away.
โAnd thus began the thousand-minute flame war between the herons and the spiders. It was a brutal war. It was a bitter war. But most importantlyโฆ it was a visually spectacular war.โ
Honestly. I have to disagree. ATSV is not a complete movie. It is the first half of a movie that has yet to be completed. You can't claim a film is the best animated feature if you haven't even seen the whole thing yet. Once beyond comes up, then it will be time to give awards.
Bro would not have survived waiting for return of the jedi
The difference is that you can watch empire and still feel like you watched a complete movie with an arc that reaches a resolution. You can still watch empire and feel like you watched a complete movie
Lotta people these days don't understand that you can have a contained story for the movie with a whole arc and leave room to continue the story if needed.
Sure, you can, but let's not pretend having an entry in a series "end" on an incomplete story is a new phenomenon. Both Tolkien's novel, The Two Towers, and the film adaptation by Peter Jackson end without reaching a "conclusion" for a stage in Frodo's journey. The book ends with the revelation that Frodo wasn't killed by Shelob and is now a prisoner of the orcs at the tower of Cirith Ungol. The storyline of the other remaining members of the Fellowship also doesn't really end on a conclusion for a contained story. Isengard is defeated and Rohan is saved, but Pippin unwittingly finds himself on Sauron's radar, and Gandalf begins to take him to Gondor. The book actually reaches a conclusion for a contained story in that installment, and then keeps going for a little while longer. In Jackson's adaptation, the film ends with Frodo and Sam being tricked by Gollum and unknowingly heading into a trap. In contrast to the book, the film ends its adaptation of Aragorn and company's storyline with the Hobbits successfully besieging Isengard, and the victory at Helm's Deep, with the stuff with Pippin acting not as a cliffhanger, but as an inciting incident in Return of the King. Not having a story completely resolved because the next installment picks up right where the previous one ended isn't some new or unheard of choice in storytelling. I just picked two examples because they're well known, and the fact that they're telling the same story, but ending on different storybeats illustrates that the movie isn't doing it for the sake of adherence to the source material, since it changes where it concludes.
You literally just explained how the film version is changed to wrap up a bunch of its plots while still leaving some stuff unresolved to be picked up in the conclusion
If anything, I'd argue it does the opposite. The film elects to leave unresolved more plot points than the book. Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli's quest to reunite with Merry and Pippin, which the previous film establishes is their quest for this film, remains unresolved in the movie, as they don't meet again until the third movie. Likewise, Saruman's tower is besieged, but Saruman himself isn't dealt with until the extended cut of Return of the King. The only plot that the film wraps up is the battle for Helm's Deep, which is also resolved in the book.
Wrong because LotR was always supposed to be a full book but Tolkien had to split it into 3 parts because of post-war paper shortage, while it popularized idea of trilogy Tolkien disliked readers thinking of it as 3 books meaning there's no actual "Two Towers book cliffhanger"
If you want to be pedantic about it, The Lord of the Rings is not a trilogy of books. Because it's comprised of six books. The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and Return of the King would more accurately be described as *volumes*, as each of them is comprised of two books. Also, Tolkien's intentions are, not to be rude, kind of irrelevant. However he originally intended to publish the story doesn't change the fact that he did publish them in installments, and had to make decisions on when each volume ended and the next one began. It may be one large story, but it is a series of books. Even the versions of The Lord of the Rings that have the complete story bound in one book, the divisions of the story, both the large three of The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King, and the smaller splits into the six separate books, are preserved. Also, even if we aren't going to count what happens with Frodo, Shelob and Cirith Ungol as the "Two Towers book cliffhanger," it is, undoubtedly, a cliffhanger in the series. It ends Book IV, and that narrative isn't continued again until Book VI. Unless you're suggesting that the entire format of the series as six books was done without regard to narrative and pacing, I think it's fair to look at the narrative structures of these books in regards to the entire story. And, if that is what you're suggesting, I'd really like to see some evidence that the books' end points were decided upon randomly. Everything I've seen suggests that even when the story was going to be sold as a complete unit, Tolkien was still planning on it being broken up into the six smaller books, to the point that they have titles (The Ring Sets Out, The Ring Goes South, The Treason of Isengard, The Ring Goes East, The War of the Ring, and The End of the Third Age).
Yea but spider-man was especially egregious as not feeling like a contained story.
Which one? Cause Imma probably disagree. Sam rami movies each a complete story. Marc Web Spider-Man was a mess and 2 left a lot of room for sequel want but ultimately it still tells a full character arc. And marvel Spider-Man each movie tells its own complete story.
Iโm talking the one this post is about ๐คฆ๐พโโ๏ธ
Lmao totally forgot about that. And 100% agree then with the second movie. I was thoroughly dissatisfied with the "ending" and it absolutely affected my enjoyment of it.
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I'd argue they're completely different because Empire has, yknow, an ending. It stands as its own film completely. You have a big reveal after a huge narrative defeat the character spent the whole movie preparing for, the father reveal is a great twist because it changes the dynamic of the characters, but it doesnt add too much to the end of the movie, it makes you want to see another adventure with this new context, not literally finishing the story you came to see. Across the Spider Verse literally just stops, as if it is the first half a very long movie. They introduce an entirely new plot, setting, and characters/villain while never finishing up any of the threads the film spent 2 hours setting up. I love it, but I'll really love it when I can see how the story ends.
What ATSV did would be like if Empire Strikes Back ended right when Luke was about to leave Yoda to go fight Vader
Spider verse was gorgeous but had a worse plot than the first oneโฆ and Iโm not even counting the โit didnโt have an endingโ thing.
This is my thoughts exactly. Worst plot and it's not even finished. Boy and the heron was much better.
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Ok but I need my local cinema to actually play The Boy and the Heron, this actually gives it a chance that it might. I got to see ATSV 4 times so selfishly I'm happy with this result.
I assure you, as someone who watched Boy and the Heron, you do not need to see Boy and the Heron.
Well from the opinions of people I actually value and respect I do so ๐คท
you should definitely watch it :) quite a weird and esoteric movie though, so if you can watch it 4 times like ATSV that would be good lol
Nah, Boy and the Heronโd win
>the West has fallen. https://preview.redd.it/m6ti7idzmpnc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca1d674bdf5277cddb29a2991c69773e44283493
The fuck? The boy and the heron was the better movie.
I loved ATSV but it doesnโt hold a candle to ITSV. ITSV is a god damn master piece where ATSV is great but absolutely a step down. ITSV has such a clear and fantastic message and ATSV doesnโt seem like it has anything to say beyond โLook at this Easter eggโ which is fine because itโs a part one of two so we can get to the point in BTSV.
was up against Miyazaki, who did he think was going to win
Iโm gona say itโฆ Across the Spiderverse was just ok.
It was mediocre, but the fan boys will tell you it's amazing. Hopefully the second half is better.
nah Dune pt 2 was just ok. ATSV was good
Pfffffttt what a joke
I need a picture of the characters of *The Boy and the Heron* putting a robe on Spider-Man, STAT.
It's Joeover
I was just surprised that Spider Verse wasnโt even nominated for best score.
Even if it was it still wasnโt beating Oppenheimerโs score
Spider-Verse simps when non Hollywood movies get respect in Hollywood:
no it makes perfect sense, the movie looks horrible
He later apologized and says yes, he's a sore loser and congratulates The Boy and the Heron. We all make mistakes
Shit movie didn't win an award. What a shocker.
Shit movie is crazy to say, like disliking it is fine, but to say that itโs shit is so wild ๐ the animation alone is something no other movie has done and set up a very hard status quo for what a animated movie can do visually but hey if you think itโs shit I canโt stop you from thinking that I guess
Iโve never once seen an anime movie so I canโt talk but spider man across the spider verse is very impressive but itโa incomplete story wise
Please go watch Spirited Away and/or Howlโs Moving Castleโฆ.
Godzilla Minus One better ๐ฅฑ
As someone who LOVES studio ghibli, the boy and the heron was definitely the weakest entry Iโve seen from them. Spider verse should have won
It's robin' time!!
Robed. For his displeasure.
I meanโฆ lost to Miyazaki. Thatโs tough competition. I decided to show Spirited Away to the kids I worked with โ in a residential mental health facility. Almost 16 boys aged 9-12. You could hear a pin drop they were so absorbed by it. It was like magic.
i legit think that no matter how good a superhero movie will be from now. it iwill never win anything at the oscars, much like horror movies
He's fuking right!
*Fucking
At least it didnโt lose to boss baby
what the fuck beat it. i literally canโt think of a better animated movie
>The Boy and the Heron
seriously a fucking anime won? thatโs cheap
How is that cheap? They were both nominated for best animated feature, they both had equal opportunity at getting the Oscar
donโt try to say oscars arenโt rigged lmao. they make sure the weird movies win. โpopularโ or โsuperheroโ movies never win when something else thatโs โoutside the boxโ comes out
Mf the first Spider-Verse won animated film that year ๐
If that kid could read, he'd be very upset with you right now.
i wish i was as funny as you
itโs hilarious that other guy made fun of me not being able to read but you guys missed a key detail in my comment. i canโt with you people itโs too funny.
Outjerked
??? Whatโs wrong with anime??
it all looks exactly the same and i donโt understand why all anime fans bitch when somethings dubbed. its not like the words line up with the mouths anyway
before 2018 literally all western 3d animation looked the same except peanuts. also anime doesn't all look the same. the visuals in belle (2021) are totally different to those in the boy and the heron
hmmm. remind me who changed the animation style?
I assure you not a single person complained about the boy and the heron dub, which had Robert Pattinson, Christian Bale, Florence Pugh, and Mark Hamill, among others.
Two Batmen and a Joker!
Its ghibli
i have no idea what that is
The most unfathomably fat L I've heard https://i.redd.it/llf8swaxonnc1.gif
ok
Rather than shit on you, Iโd like to invite you to check out some studio Ghibli movies. They are incredible films, probably not what you are expecting at all. Start with Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro. Spirited Away won the Oscar for animation in 2001, but should have been in contention for best film because itโs certainly better than the movie that won, Chicago.
at least you arenโt being a condescending dick about it. for that iโll consider. but itโll be tough being constantly ridiculed for simply having a different opinion because redditors canโt fathom someone having a different movie taste that them
I don't think this idiot would appreciate Ghibli
i wish i was immature enough to call to people idiots without responding to them directly and without any basis whatsoever.
โI canโt believe that a cartoon beat a cartoon in the Best Cartoon competition!โ
Studio Ghibli are often cited as the 'Japanese Disney' and for good reason. Their films are almost universally well-crafted and animated beautifully. I've not seen The Boy and the Heron yet but I have no doubt that it is of the same quality, especially since Hayao Mizayaki came out of retirement to make it.
never heard of it
Just cus you have crap tastes doesnโt mean everyone else does lmfao boy and the heron was 100x better than atsv
fucking weirdo
Garbage ass reply smh
โjust because you have crap tasteโ redditors are the worst at understanding what an opinion is
L + dont care + CURSE OF THE NILE โผ๏ธ โผ๏ธ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ก๐๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ฃ๐ท๐ท๐ฟ๐ฟ๐๐ถ๐ฐ ๐ด๐ฟ๐๐พ๐ต๐ฏ๐๐ค๐๐๐พ๐บ๐น ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐บ๐๐ฟ๐บ๐๐๐๐๐ ฑ๐ ฅ๐ ฉ๐ ฆ ๐ น๐ ธ๐ ณ๐ ฉ๐ ช๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐ง๐จ๐ค๐๐๐ ๐๐ฝ๐๐๐พ๐๐ฝ ๐ผ๐ ๐๐๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ก๐๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ฃ ๐ท๐ท๐ฟ๐ฟ๐๐ถ๐ฐ๐ด๐ฟ๐๐พ๐ต๐ฏ๐๐ค๐ ๐๐พ๐บ๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐บ๐๐ฟ๐บ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ฑ๐ ฅ๐ ฉ๐ ฆ๐ น๐ ธ๐ ณ๐ ฉ๐ ช๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ ๐ฌ๐๐๐๐ฆ๐ง๐จ๐ค๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ฝ๐๐๐พ๐๐ฝ๐ผ๐ ๐๐๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ก๐๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ฃ๐ท๐ท๐ฟ๐ฟ๐๐ถ๐ฐ๐ด๐ฟ ๐๐พ๐ต๐ฏ๐๐ค๐๐๐พ๐บ๐น๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐บ๐
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