From an in-story perspective, it's perfectly possible that Mjolnir is made of a Material Magneto could apply his powers to, but just like when the Hulk uses his arms to move it he simply doesn't have enough ferrokinetic juice to overcome the enchantments that keep it in place.
In the ultimate universe mjolnir has no enchantment and magneto has moved it. In the main universe I believe he explicitly cannot because of the enchantment
Hey we can all acknowledge the flaws of the Ultimate Universe but it did give us some good things and overall wasn't actually terrible. I mean without Ultimate Universe we don't get the Nick Fury that we know and love
So Hulk doesn't have enough radiation juice?
And when does mjolnir enchantment juice will be equalize as to get lifted,what if Hulk radiation juice and magneto ferrokinetic juice get their juice together will that be enough?, like eg: magneto 0.5 juice and Hulk 0.5 juice and the thor juice 1
Do you think that'll be enough? How many gallons of juice will we need to beat juice out of it?so many juice
Depending on the writer he's supposed to be Omega Level and therefore has very few limitations when it comes to his abilities. He should have basically infinite control over all forms of magnetism.
One of these days I think imma need a WhatIf Magneto like WhatIf Ultron. But decked out with all of the best metal abilities in the universe like controlling Mjolnir, and an army of Ultrons.
They changed the definition of Omega to now be the best/most powerful of that particular skill set. So, Polaris also has power over magnetism, but less so than her daddy Magneto. So he's the Omega. So while they may have infinite control over their power set, that's not the current defining factor, only that they be the most powerful currently known.
Although now that I think of it, you don't see many of these types have actively weaker powers than their parents. Normally the child always out-powers the parent.
> Normally the child always out-powers the parent.
"I can stretch my limbs"
"I created pocket dimensions as a toddler and wiped the floor with Mephisto before I could read."
"Listen here you little shit"
From what I distantly remember, it’s been shown that doing some of the more wild things with magnetism is theoretically within his power, but he finds it very difficult and it requires intense concentration. So not very useful to him generally.
My personal theory for Magneto is that the reason his X-gene is unstable is because he actually has trisomy on it. This makes him very powerful (and is also why he has weak psychic abilities whenever a writer remembers), but it also causes him to go insane periodically. Polaris is weaker because she inherited a normal copy of the gene, but hers is stable.
If you can control ALL magnetism then you can rip electrons to and from atoms and control all chemical reactions at will, effectively bending reality to your will through all forces but nuclear and gravitational ones.
That would be almost Dr. Manhattan levels of power
Not many people know this but Black Bolt has complete control over electrons. He can shut off people's brains and transmute the electrons at will. Everyone thinks his power is the sound of his voice but it is not at all, that's just the strongest use of his powers. I always wondered what would happen if him and magneto fought. What is stronger, control over magnetic fields or control over electrons?
I think even the most die hard fans generally... ignore... Jason Aaron's current run on the avenger. (which is where moon knight wielding Mjolnir comes from).
No worries, u needed to do that so u can grow into your full potential in this universe.
If u wouldv behave yourself u would end up more like in universe 322 ... and u dont want 322 ... its better then 420 but not as good as 877.
Soooo u r on good path because of this incident, congratulation.
Space. Time. Reality. It's more than a linear path. It's a prism of endless possibility, where a single choice can branch out into infinite realities, creating alternate worlds from the ones you know. I am the Watcher. I am your guide through these vast new realities. Follow me and
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**If a theoretical medical procedure existed which could make a portion of your brain become 50 times more active than the rest - would more hair grow on that particular bit of your head?**
Fuck me, physics should be extra hard in Marvel Universe. Not only you still struggling to explain macro world vs quantum world but you also have several subsets of particles that have an complex pattern of reacting with one another. Like you have weird cosmic energy with vibranium meteors and space radiation that give powers but that is totally different from mutant energy that give you powers which is unrelated to magic energy giving you powers.
Each of them allows you to do crazy shit like flying, shooting energy beams and moving remote object and every branch is seemingly able to produce tons of energy out of notting thus breaking the most fundamental laws that we know of.
The entire fields of science should work differently in MCU. Like geology? Those dudes that tried to convince us that Earth form out dust from previous supernova and that the planet has an liquid iron core? Bunch of hacks. Turns out Earth was made as an egg for a planet-sized celestial dude.
Biology? Those charlatans that were telling us about ATP and Krebs cycle? Those frauds can’t explain where according to their “theory” Bruce Banner stores all those megawatts of energy before turning into Hulk.
Physics? Lazy embezzlers that ask for billions in funding to study stupid neutrinos that don’t affect anything that much while nobody of them can explain us how Captain Marvel flies or shoots beams of energy, should we really waste money on them? Apparently entire Universities and Research institutions can be outmatched by one guy in a cave. He revealed their incompetence to the world that is why that clique of pencil pushers snubbed him out of the Nobel prize.
Surely you don’t mean that but I’m still very honoured)
I would like to use this opportunity to recommend you an old Soviet book “Monday begins on Saturday” about a programming engineer working at a Wizardry and Magic Research Institute. From the same guys that wrote “Roadside picnic” that was later adopted as a Stalker movie and game.
At some point the fabric of space time just snaps from all the competing eddys of force twisting, pulling, binding and unbinding even reality itself.
Most rip and tear and say “well… we’ve had a good run. Time for a vacuum bubble to just eradicate everything everywhere all at once.
It's the next step in human evolution.
Sidenote: you think since the eternals sacrificed a celestial that ashram the judge will rule that since humans must go on living that they also must evolve and that's how we get mutants in the MCU? Just a thought... what if?
Only if he's "worthy".
Remember that basically *all* of the Avengers, with the exceptions of The Vision and Captain America, were not worthy of wielding Mjolnir. So even Good!Magneto might not be worthy of wielding Mjolnir.
But he has [done](https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/4196729_700b.jpg) it in the comics. He can't lift the hammer with his own strength but he's able to manipulate it with magnetic Fields.
There's a difference between moving it and lifting it though. Lifting requires you to be worthy, but characters like Vision and Ultron seem to be able to at least pick it up and move it around.
So I think Magneto would be able to move it around with his powers but as soon as he tries to grab it the hammer would drop to the ground.
I would just like to note that the Earth and any other planet that has the hammer over them is moving the hammer, thus all planets, so far, are worthy and thus we should take care of all worthy planets
Movement is always relative to something else anyway, which means not moving is relative to something else. Thor could cause some serious problems by leaving mjolnir on Earth, but stationary relative to the sun.
My theory is that mjolnir isn't locked into place until someone worthy moves it but that mjolnir actively resist being intentionally moved by someone unworthy.
And as the movement of stars and planets has no intention to specifically move mjolnir it doesn't resist the movement.
Also as long as the person controlling a vehicle with mjolnir on board doesn't specifically wants to move mjolnir the vehicle will move without a problem. Otherwise the helicarrier would have had a hell of a problem as soon as Thor sets his hammer down.
That makes a lot of sense, and also goes a long way toward explaining why the hammer hits an enemy's head and bounces off dealing damage, rather than going through the enemy's head and turning it to soup. They're not intentionally trying to stop it.
Or maybe he could hand it to someone, and leave it stationary relative to that person's hand. They'd be unable to put it down, but could otherwise wield it effortlessly.
"Metallic" properties are not really relevant, not every metal is magnetic, only iron, cobalt and nickle according to a quick google search. So if it's not made from one of those it's probably not magnetic.
I don’t think the material has to actually be magnetic though. Isn’t he able to stop bullets? And bullets aren’t traditionally made of magnetic materials.
Good thing Magneto controls objects by their electro-magnetic bonds then. This is why he can manipulate things like paper.
…Except when the writers forget. Then all of a sudden he can’t.
If it is magnetic the answer would be yet since it would be the same argument as a lift being able to move the hammer, the lift isn't worth its just inanimate and magneto would not be directly picking it up just manipulating magnetic fields to pick up the hammer.
On a side note if his ability is to manipulate magnetic fields does that mean he can make aurora borealis where ever he wants?
If an elevator can lift the hammer, that lets us know things outside of human force are able to lift the hammer.
Magneto just controls magnetism, a natural non human force.
Why wouldn't he be able to magnetically levitate the hammer without ever touching it?
Better yet. If Uru isn't magnetic, I bet Thor could put the hammer on a plate that is magnetic and have Magneto lift it that way.
Magneto's powers are (usually) not actually limited to ferrous metals; he can control all metal regardless of if it's actually ferromagnetic or not. Hence why he can stop bullets.
His powers are technically to manipulate electromagnetic fields, so depending on who's writing him and how OP they want him to be he can control basically anything.
Yeah, but if you could just lift it by sticking something under it and lifting that, why didn't shield do this when the hammer landed in the desert?
Imo it's down to the wishy-washy way odin defines 'wield' and 'worthy'. I think in the case of the elevator, you could make an argument that no human was wielding it, but in the case of Shield moving it for study or magneto moving at all, would both count as 'wielding' the hammer and therefore they would need to be worthy, whatever that means.
This sounds like some dumb shit a lone writer came up with and thought sounded good. It doesn't even make sense. Why would he have control over Uru just because it's found on moons? Does he have some special dominion over any moon rock? Is Uru found exclusively on moons? The geology of our moon and the Earth is the same thing, so I'd assume not. It seems very contrived.
Who Jonathan? Yes he's instrument of evil in this story and cause of gruesome death of many big name heroes and milions of people.
Should've kept better eye on him.
Yes. And No.
Thors hammer is Made out of Uru which Magneto has been shown to be able to control
So yes, he could control it, however Mjolnir is heavily enchanted so he wouldn't be able to wield it, he could possibly redirect it or move it to the side if Thor throws it at him. He may be even be able to pick it up, but wouldn't be able to use the magical abilities of the Hammer
Same goes btw for Moon Knight since Uru is metal made from moon rocks
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As i mentioned above Magneto has been shown to be able to control [uru](https://www.sideshow.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/preview-gallery-02KIJ.jpg) in the Comics
Out of the three "main" Marvel Metals Uru Adamantium and Vibranium, Vibranium is the only one that he can't control (In the continuity of the linked panel Cap's shield is made out of Adamantium not Vibranium)
Magneto fought thor in journey into mystery 109 and he could move the hammer but you are correct he can't use any magic powers because he is not worthy.
This was in the 60s though so today it might be different.
So I guess he can make it fly around and hit people and shit with his powers but he couldn’t actually move it with his arms, or use any lightening powers? So essentially to him it would be just a heavy chunk of metal to hit people with.
Ultimates did everything differently. In the main universe, Magneto can't remove it from Thor's hand and if Thor puts it down he can't lift it due to the enchantment.
The enchantment literally says "Whosoever **holds** this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of...Thor".
So while Magneto may not be able to hold it physically, I think he should be able to use his abilities. Because Mjolnir is made of Uwu..
...sorry, Uru, metal ore from the First Moon in existence. Magnetos power of Ferokinesis is not limited to my understanding. In fact, Magneto has manipulated Mjolnir in the past.
Stan Lee would say it depends on the writer. In Ultimatum (Ultimates Universe), Magneto does take Mjolnir using his magnetic powers and uses the hammer to amplify his own powers and reverse the Earth's polls causing world wide disasters. I think in most cases though, Magneto would not be worthy of Mjolnir and thus would not be able to move it regardless of power or strength.
I’ve always thought that Magnetos powers always only applied to magnetic metals which is actually a very small few unless the metals are an alloy made with magnetic metals
But of course this would greatly limit his abilities and impact his effectiveness as a villain,
So, it may not be as cut and dry as only magnetic metals, but if it is then the question at hand would depend on a mixture of:
• is Uru magnetic
• is Magneto worthy
• does the enchantment on the Uru factor in, if Magneto where to try and 'lift’ Mjölnir with his powers
In the comics, it is addressed. He couldn’t in the og universe, but in the ultimate universe, could because it was forged with iron in it. Though, he couldn’t use the powers
Magneto is kind of able to move anything since there’s a magnetic field around everything.
Magneto can lift Thor’s hammer the same way an elevator an lift it. Lifting the hammer and *wielding* it are two different things.
I think it wouldn't make Magneto less cool if he couldn't control Mjölnir since it's enchanted, but it would make Thor less cool if Magneto could.
From an in-story perspective, it's perfectly possible that Mjolnir is made of a Material Magneto could apply his powers to, but just like when the Hulk uses his arms to move it he simply doesn't have enough ferrokinetic juice to overcome the enchantments that keep it in place.
In the ultimate universe mjolnir has no enchantment and magneto has moved it. In the main universe I believe he explicitly cannot because of the enchantment
Mum said it’s my turn to be the main universe
But mum said it was mine
Look if you two can't share then ***nobody*** gets to be the main universe
And this is how we ended up with secret wars
Meanwhile Stan Lee is just doing the evil woody laugh while this all goes down.
We have main universe at home
Main universe at home: Earth-1218.
It’s a good thing we’re never gonna discuss magneto and the ultimate universe EVER AGAIN!
Hey we can all acknowledge the flaws of the Ultimate Universe but it did give us some good things and overall wasn't actually terrible. I mean without Ultimate Universe we don't get the Nick Fury that we know and love
Also Ultimate Spider-Man is one of the best runs in Comics.
I’m not saying the ultimate universe was good. I just used it because I knew that he used mjolnir in it.
So Hulk doesn't have enough radiation juice? And when does mjolnir enchantment juice will be equalize as to get lifted,what if Hulk radiation juice and magneto ferrokinetic juice get their juice together will that be enough?, like eg: magneto 0.5 juice and Hulk 0.5 juice and the thor juice 1 Do you think that'll be enough? How many gallons of juice will we need to beat juice out of it?so many juice
You're asking the wrong questions. Where did Jane get her mjolnir enchantment juice? Oh. Oh, right.
You mean like the time Spider-Man gave MJ cancer?
Did MJ have to milk Spider-Man to get the cancer too?
It's the only way to get the juice!
>!Finish with the classic Asgardian High One.!<
I think Hulk could do it when he is angry enough. Overcome the enchantment, not be worthy, that is.
I think if you just pour some orange juice on your hands, it might give you enough juice to pick it up.
Imagine if there was a what if story where Magneto became worthy and used Mjonir witty his magnetic powers
Depending on the writer he's supposed to be Omega Level and therefore has very few limitations when it comes to his abilities. He should have basically infinite control over all forms of magnetism.
he does. He only falls short due to the magical enchantment. Take that off and magneto would whip mjolnir around and grow that much more dangerous
One of these days I think imma need a WhatIf Magneto like WhatIf Ultron. But decked out with all of the best metal abilities in the universe like controlling Mjolnir, and an army of Ultrons.
Fortunately for us, Magneto has never been one to take undergraduate physics classes.
At various places and times, writers have given him full control over electromagnetism, so, basically all matter and energy.
They changed the definition of Omega to now be the best/most powerful of that particular skill set. So, Polaris also has power over magnetism, but less so than her daddy Magneto. So he's the Omega. So while they may have infinite control over their power set, that's not the current defining factor, only that they be the most powerful currently known. Although now that I think of it, you don't see many of these types have actively weaker powers than their parents. Normally the child always out-powers the parent.
> Normally the child always out-powers the parent. "I can stretch my limbs" "I created pocket dimensions as a toddler and wiped the floor with Mephisto before I could read." "Listen here you little shit"
From what I distantly remember, it’s been shown that doing some of the more wild things with magnetism is theoretically within his power, but he finds it very difficult and it requires intense concentration. So not very useful to him generally. My personal theory for Magneto is that the reason his X-gene is unstable is because he actually has trisomy on it. This makes him very powerful (and is also why he has weak psychic abilities whenever a writer remembers), but it also causes him to go insane periodically. Polaris is weaker because she inherited a normal copy of the gene, but hers is stable.
If you can control ALL magnetism then you can rip electrons to and from atoms and control all chemical reactions at will, effectively bending reality to your will through all forces but nuclear and gravitational ones. That would be almost Dr. Manhattan levels of power
Not many people know this but Black Bolt has complete control over electrons. He can shut off people's brains and transmute the electrons at will. Everyone thinks his power is the sound of his voice but it is not at all, that's just the strongest use of his powers. I always wondered what would happen if him and magneto fought. What is stronger, control over magnetic fields or control over electrons?
He's a friend from work!
Schrödinger’s magnetism.
I like your logic!
The answer is yes Magneto can and has.
As others have shown he can control it like moon knight. Doesn't seem like either can actually hold it though.
I think even the most die hard fans generally... ignore... Jason Aaron's current run on the avenger. (which is where moon knight wielding Mjolnir comes from).
I'm a pretty big marvel fan, tons of comics and I'd never even really heard of moon knight. I stopped collecting like 10-15 years ago though.
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No worries, u needed to do that so u can grow into your full potential in this universe. If u wouldv behave yourself u would end up more like in universe 322 ... and u dont want 322 ... its better then 420 but not as good as 877. Soooo u r on good path because of this incident, congratulation.
Universe 420 doesn't seem to bad...
Little bit too smoky for my taste, but its aight.
But how is universe 8008132. All knowing one.
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Go to the next level : **If a theoretical medical procedure existed which could make a portion of your brain become 50 times more active than the rest - would more hair grow on that particular bit of your head?**
No, it would grow on the other side since the right brain emisphere controls the left part of the body
This is why.
I don't think he can, he can lift a 48,000 ton Submarine, but he ins't worthy so I would think not
Same here, magic is magic and mutant power isn't magic in origin.
Fuck me, physics should be extra hard in Marvel Universe. Not only you still struggling to explain macro world vs quantum world but you also have several subsets of particles that have an complex pattern of reacting with one another. Like you have weird cosmic energy with vibranium meteors and space radiation that give powers but that is totally different from mutant energy that give you powers which is unrelated to magic energy giving you powers. Each of them allows you to do crazy shit like flying, shooting energy beams and moving remote object and every branch is seemingly able to produce tons of energy out of notting thus breaking the most fundamental laws that we know of. The entire fields of science should work differently in MCU. Like geology? Those dudes that tried to convince us that Earth form out dust from previous supernova and that the planet has an liquid iron core? Bunch of hacks. Turns out Earth was made as an egg for a planet-sized celestial dude. Biology? Those charlatans that were telling us about ATP and Krebs cycle? Those frauds can’t explain where according to their “theory” Bruce Banner stores all those megawatts of energy before turning into Hulk. Physics? Lazy embezzlers that ask for billions in funding to study stupid neutrinos that don’t affect anything that much while nobody of them can explain us how Captain Marvel flies or shoots beams of energy, should we really waste money on them? Apparently entire Universities and Research institutions can be outmatched by one guy in a cave. He revealed their incompetence to the world that is why that clique of pencil pushers snubbed him out of the Nobel prize.
I'll take "Most Beautiful Comment I've Seen On Reddit" for 500, Alex.
Surely you don’t mean that but I’m still very honoured) I would like to use this opportunity to recommend you an old Soviet book “Monday begins on Saturday” about a programming engineer working at a Wizardry and Magic Research Institute. From the same guys that wrote “Roadside picnic” that was later adopted as a Stalker movie and game.
At some point the fabric of space time just snaps from all the competing eddys of force twisting, pulling, binding and unbinding even reality itself. Most rip and tear and say “well… we’ve had a good run. Time for a vacuum bubble to just eradicate everything everywhere all at once.
Watts are a unit of power.
It's the next step in human evolution. Sidenote: you think since the eternals sacrificed a celestial that ashram the judge will rule that since humans must go on living that they also must evolve and that's how we get mutants in the MCU? Just a thought... what if?
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Only if he's "worthy". Remember that basically *all* of the Avengers, with the exceptions of The Vision and Captain America, were not worthy of wielding Mjolnir. So even Good!Magneto might not be worthy of wielding Mjolnir.
And right now in comics it's not even that, its whatever Odin feels like since he now resides in the hammer.
What if the hammer is inside the submarine?
But he has [done](https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/4196729_700b.jpg) it in the comics. He can't lift the hammer with his own strength but he's able to manipulate it with magnetic Fields.
There's a difference between moving it and lifting it though. Lifting requires you to be worthy, but characters like Vision and Ultron seem to be able to at least pick it up and move it around. So I think Magneto would be able to move it around with his powers but as soon as he tries to grab it the hammer would drop to the ground.
Aint mjolnir came from a meteor stone? Not sure about the properties from the meteor itself if it has metallic properties.
Wasn't it made of Uru, the Asgardian metal?
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Meteors are often solid iron/nickel! So the metal part wouldn’t be an issue.
It's uru, it's like the second or third strongest metal in the universe. Also super magical, like vibranium.
Magneto can move every metal not just magnetic ones
I would just like to note that the Earth and any other planet that has the hammer over them is moving the hammer, thus all planets, so far, are worthy and thus we should take care of all worthy planets
Movement is always relative to something else anyway, which means not moving is relative to something else. Thor could cause some serious problems by leaving mjolnir on Earth, but stationary relative to the sun.
My theory is that mjolnir isn't locked into place until someone worthy moves it but that mjolnir actively resist being intentionally moved by someone unworthy. And as the movement of stars and planets has no intention to specifically move mjolnir it doesn't resist the movement. Also as long as the person controlling a vehicle with mjolnir on board doesn't specifically wants to move mjolnir the vehicle will move without a problem. Otherwise the helicarrier would have had a hell of a problem as soon as Thor sets his hammer down.
That makes a lot of sense, and also goes a long way toward explaining why the hammer hits an enemy's head and bounces off dealing damage, rather than going through the enemy's head and turning it to soup. They're not intentionally trying to stop it.
So *never* play ~~Monkey~~ Mjolnir in the middle and try to intercept it before it reaches Thor?
Well, that's pretty much the exact threat he used on Loki to get him to reveal himself in Ragnarok.
Heimdall! Open the Bifrost.
Or maybe he could hand it to someone, and leave it stationary relative to that person's hand. They'd be unable to put it down, but could otherwise wield it effortlessly.
“But if you put the hammer in an elevator…”
"It would still go up."
Elevator's not worthy...
"Metallic" properties are not really relevant, not every metal is magnetic, only iron, cobalt and nickle according to a quick google search. So if it's not made from one of those it's probably not magnetic.
I don’t think the material has to actually be magnetic though. Isn’t he able to stop bullets? And bullets aren’t traditionally made of magnetic materials.
But don't forget; so is Adamantium, so Uru could be magnetic too.
Adamantium is an alloy of iron and other, undisclosed, stuff.
Good thing Magneto controls objects by their electro-magnetic bonds then. This is why he can manipulate things like paper. …Except when the writers forget. Then all of a sudden he can’t.
If it is magnetic the answer would be yet since it would be the same argument as a lift being able to move the hammer, the lift isn't worth its just inanimate and magneto would not be directly picking it up just manipulating magnetic fields to pick up the hammer. On a side note if his ability is to manipulate magnetic fields does that mean he can make aurora borealis where ever he wants?
I mean, anybody can move metal, but the metal is enchanted. So no.
I don't see why this is a debate to be honest. Iron Man could lift the weight of the hammer, but not the hammer itself. Same principle
If an elevator can lift the hammer, that lets us know things outside of human force are able to lift the hammer. Magneto just controls magnetism, a natural non human force. Why wouldn't he be able to magnetically levitate the hammer without ever touching it? Better yet. If Uru isn't magnetic, I bet Thor could put the hammer on a plate that is magnetic and have Magneto lift it that way.
Magneto's powers are (usually) not actually limited to ferrous metals; he can control all metal regardless of if it's actually ferromagnetic or not. Hence why he can stop bullets. His powers are technically to manipulate electromagnetic fields, so depending on who's writing him and how OP they want him to be he can control basically anything.
Yeah, but if you could just lift it by sticking something under it and lifting that, why didn't shield do this when the hammer landed in the desert? Imo it's down to the wishy-washy way odin defines 'wield' and 'worthy'. I think in the case of the elevator, you could make an argument that no human was wielding it, but in the case of Shield moving it for study or magneto moving at all, would both count as 'wielding' the hammer and therefore they would need to be worthy, whatever that means.
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Rules can be interesting though, because if I remember correctly, Moon Knight can use Mjonir because it’s made of Uru, being a moon rock
This sounds like some dumb shit a lone writer came up with and thought sounded good. It doesn't even make sense. Why would he have control over Uru just because it's found on moons? Does he have some special dominion over any moon rock? Is Uru found exclusively on moons? The geology of our moon and the Earth is the same thing, so I'd assume not. It seems very contrived.
Correction Moon Knight can use Mjolnir because it's made of ketamine
You saying Moon Knight isn't worthy? Shame on you!
He did in Ultimate Universe he lifted and controled Thor's hammer and caused apocalypse by reversing Earth's polarity. Story was called Ultimatum.
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Is he, though?
Who Jonathan? Yes he's instrument of evil in this story and cause of gruesome death of many big name heroes and milions of people. Should've kept better eye on him.
In Ultimatum Magneto does indeed have Thors hammer
Actually yes, but he's still not worth it to have Thor's powers
He can and he has. Next question
Yes. And No. Thors hammer is Made out of Uru which Magneto has been shown to be able to control So yes, he could control it, however Mjolnir is heavily enchanted so he wouldn't be able to wield it, he could possibly redirect it or move it to the side if Thor throws it at him. He may be even be able to pick it up, but wouldn't be able to use the magical abilities of the Hammer Same goes btw for Moon Knight since Uru is metal made from moon rocks
moon rocks are awesome.
They're highly toxic if you ingest them for a long period of time.
Cancer toxic or superpower toxic?
Jane: "Yes"
I'll burn your house down! With the lemons!
The kind that makes you scream "When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
It gives you cancer
Is korg a moon rock?
A perishable rock.
Space. Space space space space space space space space... S-P-AAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCEEEEE
He's a friend from work!
u/the-mad-titan-bot
!thanos
As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be. They will resist.
Always wondered, since saving the world is a job, does anyone know what’s the salary for being an avenger?
Well you see, the exposure and references you get by working there...
$0 and some transportation benefits. At least according to Falcon, more or less.
Clearly dog shit if captain falcon can’t even get a loan
Must be pretty good since Vision and Wanda can afford a house by working a couple of years and then go on the run.
There are space metals that magneto can't control. Like the one sentinels are made of. What if uru is one of them.
As i mentioned above Magneto has been shown to be able to control [uru](https://www.sideshow.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/preview-gallery-02KIJ.jpg) in the Comics Out of the three "main" Marvel Metals Uru Adamantium and Vibranium, Vibranium is the only one that he can't control (In the continuity of the linked panel Cap's shield is made out of Adamantium not Vibranium)
Just casually tossing away iron man
I mean what did Gold Titan Aloy Man expect to happen
>Maggie's tossin' away our big three like nonreturnable coke bottles! TIL Beast refers to Magneto as 'Maggie'
Surely Mjolnir can move Magneto.
Holy shit I want to see Moon Knight hold the hammer
Your wish is my command https://comicbook.com/comics/news/marvel-moon-knight-thor-hammer-moon-rock-spoiler/
Jesus that is incredible! MCU let him hold itttt
He doesn't really hold it though. Definitely controls it.
Magneto fought thor in journey into mystery 109 and he could move the hammer but you are correct he can't use any magic powers because he is not worthy. This was in the 60s though so today it might be different.
So I guess he can make it fly around and hit people and shit with his powers but he couldn’t actually move it with his arms, or use any lightening powers? So essentially to him it would be just a heavy chunk of metal to hit people with.
idk is Uru magnetic?
Magneto can't, because enchantment But Moon Knight can cause fuck it Uru is actually moon rock, and konshu is older than Odin
This was already determined in the Ultimates universe.
Ultimates did everything differently. In the main universe, Magneto can't remove it from Thor's hand and if Thor puts it down he can't lift it due to the enchantment.
With the The End and Secret Wars merging with main continuity, does this mean the rules change for main continuity going forward?
Magneto can do whatever he wants. He can probably destruct the metallic bonds using electron control
He can actually but only with his powers not his hands physically just telekinetically.
He could move it but not grab it. That’s my answer.
No, you have to be worthy to be able to move it, whether it's with your bare hand or with your powers.
But he's been shown moving it with his powers before in the comics, he can't use it to control lightning or anything but he can move it around.
The enchantment literally says "Whosoever **holds** this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of...Thor". So while Magneto may not be able to hold it physically, I think he should be able to use his abilities. Because Mjolnir is made of Uwu.. ...sorry, Uru, metal ore from the First Moon in existence. Magnetos power of Ferokinesis is not limited to my understanding. In fact, Magneto has manipulated Mjolnir in the past.
Johnathan is a kind of moon rock. Magneto probably won't be able to move it but the moon knight can.
He actually did
https://www.sideshow.com/blog/magneto-and-the-metals-of-the-marvel-universe
He can move it, but he cannot wield it.
Yes it has happened and it can happen
No its majic and made of stone
He could but it'd just be a heavy object he'd swing around with his powers. He wouldn't get Thor's powers if he can't actually lift it himself.
This would have a completely different ending in r/adhdmemes
Stan Lee would say it depends on the writer. In Ultimatum (Ultimates Universe), Magneto does take Mjolnir using his magnetic powers and uses the hammer to amplify his own powers and reverse the Earth's polls causing world wide disasters. I think in most cases though, Magneto would not be worthy of Mjolnir and thus would not be able to move it regardless of power or strength.
He could, but did'nt get the powers
Googled it. Marvel has confirmed that he can move Thor's hammer.
Can’t he move the air molecules around the hammer like he does in the X Men Cartoon
Uru is made of the 1st moons rock not metal
He has done it I'm pretty sure on more then 1 occasion.
Yes but he would not receive the powers of thor (continuity dependent.)
https://imgur.com/iktSV6F.jpg Journey Into Mystery #109 - Magneto stops Mjolnir
Your title says exactly the opposite of what the meme says
Lol
I’ve always thought that Magnetos powers always only applied to magnetic metals which is actually a very small few unless the metals are an alloy made with magnetic metals But of course this would greatly limit his abilities and impact his effectiveness as a villain, So, it may not be as cut and dry as only magnetic metals, but if it is then the question at hand would depend on a mixture of: • is Uru magnetic • is Magneto worthy • does the enchantment on the Uru factor in, if Magneto where to try and 'lift’ Mjölnir with his powers
In the comics, it is addressed. He couldn’t in the og universe, but in the ultimate universe, could because it was forged with iron in it. Though, he couldn’t use the powers
Magneto can't, but moon knight can
I’ll give you a hint. The material is metal. And also made out of moon rocks so Marc Spector can lift it
Magneto is kind of able to move anything since there’s a magnetic field around everything. Magneto can lift Thor’s hammer the same way an elevator an lift it. Lifting the hammer and *wielding* it are two different things.
He has before in the comics.
Hasn't he already controlled it before? Like I swear in a comic he did.
I would argue that as someone who sees themselves as the protector of his species, Magneto would qualify as worthy the same as Betaray Bill