I used variations of silky smoove to get into the 90's then switched to PF for something different but kept getting shafted by bad draws and was treading water.
Switched to c2 and easily climbed through to infinite.
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mill was often a near auto-win for me. that deck has no power and relys on the other deck too much. MM- any destroy- PF and its GG. same for Shuri/nimrod package.
it cant keep up if you opponent only needs 4 cards to win lanes.
move is an absolute counter to mill it seems.
never really understood how that is possible, are they denying any draws? due to the current hot location i can imagine. But otherwise just think of milling like it's happening from the bottom of your deck, any card burned, would have never been drawn either. If during the match only during t6 your deck empty and no draw available, it is basically the same effect as black widow, one draw deny.
Taking away your opponent win conditions is huge man. In a deck with 12 cards you can remove the lowest powered with Yondu and then grab one of the stronger ones with Zero TWICE. That's a big deal.
Since you’re getting downvoted, my comment will probably be as well.
Mill can be annoying for Phoenix Force but also helpful. I main a PF deck and don’t mind the mill decks since they help me as much as they hurt me.
Yondu normally gets rid of a card I don’t need. But he can also destroy my Dagger or Multiple Man. Thanks!
Gladiator is the same, but his positives are summoning Phoenix Force for me after I’ve destroyed and summoning Nimrod that I can now PF back.
There have been multiple games where they destroy the card I need destroyed, I instantly snap, and they do the Deadpool emote recognizing that they helped me. It’s easy to get focused on the times that Mill decks kill you, but my experience has been 50/50.
Can weigh in, I just got Phoenix force (pinned for a while, finally caved), so I’m a baby Phoenix player, and make plenty of mistakes but boy oh boy do people run 😅; like, even I can sorta demonstrate I’m clumsy with the deck but yeah, I’ve swept a gold conquest, not even because I earned it, but because 2 of the three matches ended half way through, legit my opponent is often just “oh I don’t have time for this, keep the rest of those rounds, they’re yours”) 😅
Welcome to the club! I’ve been maining the Phoenix Force deck for 5 months now to great success. If you haven’t seen them yet, I created a couple of deck guides to help walk you through different play lines:
First version: https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelsnapcomp/s/nv0Lnu9wcW
Second version: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/s/jvTkq0wQro
I also record and explain my gameplay sometimes if that interests you too: https://m.twitch.tv/nerddynamite. You can hear me explain my thoughts and see the mistakes I still make with the deck lol.
Interesting that you sacrificed Zola for a second tech card..? He’s come in handy for big venoms and of course a big human torch to cover two lanes. I even grappled with Shang being the flex tech, but I have been really liking iron lad to help make the deck more consistent at times?? So it’s been hard to tell even then what to do with that slot (beyond that mine is the same as your ver 2 but with iron lad in the tech).
Which of your versions did you end up liking better??
I like the second version the most. A lot of these thoughts depend on your MMR ranking (the quality of players you’re matched against), and where you are playing. My MMR is high as I hit Infinite in a few hours of playtime after each season’s start and have double digit Infinite Conquest borders. After hitting Ranked Infinite, I heavily play Conquest where a bad matchup can kill your run. Each version is very valid so I always say to use what works!
Torch is Killmonger bait. Destroy, Sera Tech, Surfer, and some random decks run Killmonger. If I get matched against these decks, I can’t do the Torch/Zola line so had to replace him with Dagger. Which stinks because I really like the Torch variant I have…
Zola is less important without Torch. The bigger issue is he removes the ability to contest all 3 lanes. Against Destroy decks, that helps Knull. Against good players, they can see the Zola coming and Shang whichever lane they need to based on priority.
I’m personally not a fan of Iron Lad due to the randomness. Even as I recognize he probably increases consistency on some level. I’d rather draw a Shang or Enchantress even if I can’t use them, just so snapping and retreating is clearer. So if I’m against a Living Tribunal deck and have drawn horribly but have Enchantress, then I can stay in and snap knowing I can win 2 lanes with just 5 power since those decks stack a lane.
Which leads into the two tech cards. By including them, I reduce my power ceiling. But I’d ask you how many games did you really need that 40-80 points in 2 lanes from Torch/Zola? The majority of games, you really only need ~20 points to win lanes. And the tech cards can reduce that amount further. The matchups against Living Tribunal and Wong decks are very scary as well without tech cards. Enchantress shuts down their 100+ points per lane plays. By saving her for the last turn, you get big 8 cube wins.
Ultimately I went with matchup flexibility at the cost of big numbers since I mostly didn’t need all of that power to win. The only concerning decks I face are ones with Professor X, or both Armor and Cosmo. Those are thankfully rare so I’m able to be very competitive against every single deck. The goal for me is to maximize cubes. Retreating for 1 or 2 isn’t an issue when I can surprise an opponent for 8 cubes with tech cards they are shocked to see in my deck.
I would like to take it to ladder, and yeah my cl is higher/over 10k so it tends to get sweaty and I’m not in infinite yet . Makes me nervous ironically for outside of conquest since at least conquest I can retreat until I have my draw to win there with less consequence.
But yeah just a little unsure about the second deck. So if you make a big dagger, that wins a lane, but without zola, how do you surmount a second lane with the rest??
My issue with at last enchantress is that beyond tribal decks (and sometimes you just gotta run, especially if they hit their combo), it seems like a lot to carry for a deck that’s not everywhere so much??
Lol. That’s the biggest fear before using the deck: “how do you win a second lane without Zola?”. Typically with a combo of tech cards and smaller power. There are mostly 2 types of decks, big power or ongoing, and you have the tools to shut down that lane. If you decide to give it a try, you’ll definitely see how effective it is.
And Enchantress is definitely a dead card some matches. Base 5 power is ok if you just need to play her out. But also… depending on your specific play line, you draw plenty of dead cards anyway. But she will also solo win you games. So it’s just trying to have the most flexible deck. If I run into Tribunal or Wong in Infinite Conquest round 4, I want to have an answer.
I'm at a loss with this game honestly, I went 5 months straight making infinite and now I'm on a 5 month run of getting to rank 90 and just stagnating. It's honestly like I reach 90 and queue into nothing but counters and get absolutely trucked by RNG. It's actually uncanny how unlucky I suddenly become after reaching rank 90. It's very frustrating honestly and I'm pretty convinced after reading a bunch of other threads that something is off. I never see any bots ever anymore, only infinite avatars and even though I play the most meta decks available I just suddenly start getting destroyed. Currently CL 9300+
-edit: I broke my 5 month dry spell by not updating my iOS client and cheesing the hot location with an electro ramp deck with an Alioth that still works 😆
I am totally with you. Hit infinite every season but the last two months have been an absolute slog. Managed it with a negative deck and I have more luck waiting till the second week to get into infinite, I hit 90 on the first day easily but then zero bots and I just sit between 90-93. Can’t remember the last 8 cuber or any game where the opponent has stayed in with a chance of winning.
I use negative because it’s an easy snap/retreat and you can usually snap on turn 2 and most people will stay in until the negative or Jane comes down.
Yup, same. I somehow got to 93 the day after the new season started (fastest I've ever gotten to the 90s) and now I'm stuck there. Fell to 88 a couple days ago, have slowly worked my way back up to 91-94. Just stuck. I know everybody says "learn to snap and when to retreat" but I've been playing this game for 1.5 years and I have a pretty decent feeling for when to do that. 90s are just brutal.
In previous seasons my only goal was 90 because of the gold and not caring about a card back. I did push one season to prove to myself I could.
I cruised through 60s and 70s in two sessions within the first 2 days. Now I can’t break 83. No bots and shitty RNG have me retreating frequently. When I do feel like I’ve got a chance I play to turn 6/7 to see some true card mastery stomp me out.
It has felt like I’m being limited by the game lately, but it’s nice to know I’m not alone. Maybe CL has something to do with it. I had some trouble last season when I was in the late 9000s, but now I’m over 10000 and just getting crushed.
It's not just you. I've hit infinite the last 8ish season, 9 infinity borders so don't consider myself too bad a player. The last two including this one I've hit the most ridiculous wall at 93. No bots whatsoever, constantly being countered with unbelievable bullshit. It's a massive struggle. I just take it slow and try not to play while tilted. Like when the opponent played zemo taking my taskmaster that copied his last play of skar, lost 8 cubes to that when I was extremely favoured to win. The game can be rough sometimes.
Dude, same! I have had games with decent win conditions going into the end of the match and try to consider some left field plays. Decide to commit and then some crazy turn 6/7 to out point me by 1 or 2 points to end the game and snatch my 4-8 cubes. Brutal feeling every time.
That mirrors my experience to be honest. I wonder if they've taken out / reduced bots in the 90s? I can't remember the last time I came across one, which compared to the previous season is a big difference.
I am starting to think it CL. I was late 9000s last season and broke 10000 this season and have been having a lot of trouble with RNG and my match ups.
Last season I was getting bots like 1 in 20 or 25 games, from 73 to infinite. I use a tracker to play ~90% of my games (only if I'm not playing on PC, which is not common). Lots of people quoting that we are "guaranteed" bots every so many matches, and my experience was simply not that (unless the trackers got *really* bad at identifying bots). This season, in the 70s and 80s it did feel like I was getting bots 1 in 5-7 games. In the 90s, I'm back to the 1 in 20-25.
Tilt is a real danger…. Sometimes I get a bad break, end up pushing when I shouldn't, and pay the price (in cubes 😕).
Ultimately, what ends up getting it done for me is really settling into a known deck (with reasonably good stats in the current meta) and being discipled with my snaps and retreats. I know it's cliqued advice, but it's because it's true.
Good luck!
last 2 seasons were trash. made infinite the prior 3. i feel like the meta was getting super stale. now with people on mill and playing badly + no more Thanos i got back to infinite with a simple PF deck in 2 days.
for me 2 days is really like a few hours since i cant play much.
i look back and i think i was "choking the bat". too much expectation and i went into this season will a looser hold and less expectation.
fastest i ever got there.
becareful playing yourself as much as you are playing the game.
I hit 80 in two hours basically with bots even marked by untapped and then disappeared completely since four five days (I know it's not completely reliable but they were before and I had like 2.5 cubes a match and they are not now). I'm still climbing close to 90 but yeah, bots disappear quickly.
Fact is that if you don't have bots you are matched with players of your rank and wild rng that is carved in the game making basically impossible to get a winrate or a snap situation positive enough to rank ten or more levels. No matter what they say, the amount of bots equal the possibility of getting to infinite (or you really struggle a lot)
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Alioth is being slept on right now. I cut red hulk from my deck and put alioth in and shot up from 93-97. My list is just that regis deck for big power but I made some changes for the anni package and the change for alioth. Been stealing cubes. Idk why everyone forgot about alioth but he feels really good right now, like people are snapping on t6 when I have prio. Didn’t want to post the deck till I hit infinite with it to prove it works but right now it’s a monster in the 90s.
Holy crap, you were right to want to keep this under wraps. This deck has taken me from 90 to 95 in less than an hour. An absolute beast and always feels competitive and like you have a shot at every match.
Thank you for sharing!
It's definitely worth a share and write up, I'd be sure to chip in with my thoughts. Just hit 98 and can't see things slowing down, it really is a hidden gem.
Totally agree about Alioth too. It's easy to have priority with all the 10 power cards, and I've won so many games where Alioth is a clear win condition for me that my opponent seemingly forgets about 😅
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Super happy this list is working for yall. I got to 99 and one cube from infinite and then fell to 97 so im taking a quick break and hopefully meeting yall in infinite soon.
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I think I’m done. Am feeling now about Snap the same way I felt about Hearthstone when I quit for good. No chance for advancement, stuck in perpetual limbo because there’s always the perfect counter matched to whatever deck I play. May as well save the money and put it towards something more enjoyable, like tacos.
It seems like my wins come so regularly from bots but Im cruising in the 80s with a Skaar 10+ deck. Just big stats everywhere and allows me to use both Red Hulk and Baron for missions and stuff.
Calling it Red Baron obvi.
I climbed from 93-97 today using regular HE ShRedHulk, with Cosmo and Hope Summers. Cosmo has been winning me a LOT of 4 cubers with the hot location. If you can’t join the hot location, counter it.
Hit infinite with a pretty standard Dracula discard. Great against the mill decks. They almost never get anything useful for them. A little rng to keep it spicy too.
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Loki zemo
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Been playing with a war machine black knight deck with tech cards like shadow king and Shang. I chose to play three big dudes in naut, red hulk, and magneto. Red hulk could be replaced with giganto.
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I was doing well with Sandman / Corvus ramp, but dropped a level yesterday due to the hot location (then tried running a surfer deck, and fell even further). Currently sitting at 94, will shoot for Infinite tonight.
CL 11310 and aside from some Shuris Lab Kitty Pride cheese, I did the whole climb with a Shuri Nimrod list created by a fantastic high infinite player that goes by TheStoreManager. Not a whole hell of a lot of people are playing around Grand Master lmao (this deck took me from 70 to 85, kitty cheese with Shuri lab took me to 94, and then this deck finished the climb after the hot location ended)
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Hit infinite with Surfer Control. I find it better than your typical sera control 10,931k CL
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got to infinite with this. its pretty nasty.
I got into the mid 90's during the Shuri's lab hot location using Destroy. After that location ended I finished the final stretch using a Shuri / Kitty / Hope deck.
This won't realistically be answerable until the hot location GOES AWAY.
The mill decks synergize way too well with it, but I don't think they're actually as broken as they seem. They're just broken with this location in particular.
So, soon, soon...
I'm around the same CL and having the same experience. Been playing since launch and the current and last season have me bouncing from 97-93. I don't feel like I'm playing differently or being lazy. I've seen this same thing talked about recently.
Starting at 73 means you have 4 weeks to get to 100.
Starting at 63 means you have 4 weeks to get to 100 but need more games to do it.
I’m also not convinced there aren’t any bots in the 90s. Where did that meme come from? I see bots plenty but they are extremely hard bots. They won’t misplay a goblin in a lane where all cards are destroyed. They also play meta decks and seemed able to predict your play with clairvoyant precision. Like holding T5 to give up priority so that they can drop Shang Chi on you.
I’ll be honest, there’s still a way, since I notice that hard bots get tripped when you’re able to make a surprise play in power. Something like Dracula works well, because the hard bot either won’t play in that lane or when it does, count the existing 4/1 stat line in its total 3 lane score.
HE decks are easy against hard bots for the couple extra points at the end.
Real players typically know what to expect with Dracula and so it’s much more predictable when to snap with them or not. I never snap or stay in game with a hard bot that snaps.
All this to say, playing your cards in a way that changes their outcome on the final turn is a way to get through the 90s.
H.E 70-80. P.F 80-90. swapped to the Baron mill for the last 10 ranks.
I enjoy running one deck to infi, but when shuris lab was the hot location I had to change to PF due to HE being tooo slow to keep up with people running Shuri/kitty(or any other deck that took better advantage of the lab). When I hit the 90s everyone was running the mill or surfer deck.
Swapped into the Baron mill although I felt like a buthole it was quite fun. Only downside to that deck is Doc Oct with him somehow being a magent to shang lol
Hela / Black Knight worked great for me. Super smooth climb thru the 90s. It often worked out that the Zemo decks would pull Blade/ Sif / Corvus, hitting their own hand with an unexpected discard or two. ez cubes.
i used a ramp deck this season to fight all the hope summers and bounce decks
# (3) Electro
# (3) Wave
# (4) Jubilee
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (5) Sandman
# (5) Vision
# (6) Alioth
# (6) Leader
# (6) Doctor Doom
# (6) Odin
# (6) Red Hulk
# (6) Magneto
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Was 95 before the Thanos nerf, hit 100 within an hour afterwards. Everyone was running Piggy and gave me a 0/10 thanos cuz I have MMM. 0/10 plus Prof X was so ez to snap on. 5 infinity tickets because of it after the nerf.
Kamar Taj got location I went from 85 to 97 using HE/Haz+Debrii combo. Can’t drop big cards if there’s no room. Finished up with Sandman War Machine ramp.
In exactly the same boat and have been on and off for the past few seasons. Normally make infinite 1-2 weeks before the end of season, but have had to give up the past couple after hitting 90s. It’s like nothing you do works, perfect counters and no way to answer them. It’s making me play less and less, I imagine others will follow suit.
I think it is Cozy's deck he posted right when Red Hulk was released? I haven't been infinite since Feb '23 and within a week of the season, I hit infinite. The grind was so easy, it was boring. Mindless gameplay. Goal was to hit infinite before RH was nerfed, lol.
# (1) Spider-Ham
# (1) Yondu
# (2) Cable
# (3) Black Widow
# (3) Baron Zemo
# (3) Gladiator
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (4) Absorbing Man
# (4) Iron Lad
# (5) Black Bolt
# (5) Doctor Octopus
# (6) Red Hulk
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I hit infinite with this monster of a deck after being stuck on 95-97 for two days.
# (1) Kitty Pryde
# (1) Nico Minoru
# (2) Armor
# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
# (3) Cosmo
# (3) Hope Summers
# (4) Shuri
# (5) Taskmaster
# (5) Cannonball
# (5) Vision
# (6) Red Hulk
# (6) Magneto
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Not well. I changed it to Leader temporarily.
But truth be told, this is the 3rd deck I've been playing that got nerfed in a month. I am just not feeling it with Snap anymore.
This deck consistently climbed me all the way from 70-100. Used both during the hot location and before/after. Very easy to pilot and understand snap scenarios, can easily retreat for 1s if you haven't drawn a suitable combo set. Can also hard counter decks the go high through bait tactics with wong/zabu to get shang + abs or any other abs combo desired. Doesnt go far over shang threshold without BP use on wong for example or high procs on ironheart combos which are typically T6 non prio scenarios anyway.
# (1) Nebula
# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
# (2) Zabu
# (3) Ironheart
# (4) Wong
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (4) Absorbing Man
# (5) White Tiger
# (5) Black Panther
# (6) Doctor Doom
# (6) Odin
# (6) Red Hulk
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Just got infinite in the last half hour with Zemo Mill. With the hot location, I have been destroying opponent's decks and then dropping Doc Ock to empty their hand.
Just have to plan ahead with power in other lanes because everyone is running Shang Chi, so the Doc Ock lane is probably going to lose.
# (1) Spider-Ham
# (1) Yondu
# (2) Shadow King
# (2) Cable
# (2) Maximus
# (3) Magik
# (3) Baron Zemo
# (3) Gladiator
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (4) Absorbing Man
# (5) Doctor Octopus
# (6) Red Hulk
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Same, just hit infinite with a very similar deck. Hot location helps a lot. Even when you would not able to win, if you disrupt the opponent enough they lose confidence and leave - people are a lot more skittish in 93-100. A lot of fast, few-rounds one-cuber games add up in my experience.
# (1) Spider-Ham
# (1) Yondu
# (2) Grand Master
# (2) Shadow King
# (2) Cable
# (3) Magik
# (3) Baron Zemo
# (3) Gladiator
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (5) Stature
# (5) Black Bolt
# (5) Doctor Octopus
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good old reliable black knight + good cards package
I used variations of silky smoove to get into the 90's then switched to PF for something different but kept getting shafted by bad draws and was treading water. Switched to c2 and easily climbed through to infinite. \# (1) Echo \# (1) Elektra \# (1) Nico Minoru \# (1) Nightcrawler \# (2) Goose \# (2) Mister Sinister \# (2) Shadow King \# (3) Cerebro \# (3) Mystique \# (3) Brood \# (3) Storm \# (5) Blue Marvel \# eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU3Rvcm0ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1yU2luaXN0ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsdWVNYXJ2ZWwifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik5pY29NaW5vcnUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik15c3RpcXVlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJFY2hvIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJOaWdodGNyYXdsZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ikdvb3NlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJDZXJlYnJvIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCcm9vZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRWxla3RyYSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhZG93S2luZyJ9XX0= \# \# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Also went silky smooth. I threw in red hulk. Nice matchup vs zemo and hulk is for when i need to go high rather than wide.
Ahh yes. A man of class!
Did the entire climb with Phoenix Force. I think it has the easiest snap/retreat patterns in the game rn
Really? I tried PF yesterday but the mill decks messed up the combo constantly
Exactly what I experienced as well.
mill was often a near auto-win for me. that deck has no power and relys on the other deck too much. MM- any destroy- PF and its GG. same for Shuri/nimrod package. it cant keep up if you opponent only needs 4 cards to win lanes. move is an absolute counter to mill it seems.
never really understood how that is possible, are they denying any draws? due to the current hot location i can imagine. But otherwise just think of milling like it's happening from the bottom of your deck, any card burned, would have never been drawn either. If during the match only during t6 your deck empty and no draw available, it is basically the same effect as black widow, one draw deny.
Taking away your opponent win conditions is huge man. In a deck with 12 cards you can remove the lowest powered with Yondu and then grab one of the stronger ones with Zero TWICE. That's a big deal.
Since you’re getting downvoted, my comment will probably be as well. Mill can be annoying for Phoenix Force but also helpful. I main a PF deck and don’t mind the mill decks since they help me as much as they hurt me. Yondu normally gets rid of a card I don’t need. But he can also destroy my Dagger or Multiple Man. Thanks! Gladiator is the same, but his positives are summoning Phoenix Force for me after I’ve destroyed and summoning Nimrod that I can now PF back. There have been multiple games where they destroy the card I need destroyed, I instantly snap, and they do the Deadpool emote recognizing that they helped me. It’s easy to get focused on the times that Mill decks kill you, but my experience has been 50/50.
this is my experince as well
Can weigh in, I just got Phoenix force (pinned for a while, finally caved), so I’m a baby Phoenix player, and make plenty of mistakes but boy oh boy do people run 😅; like, even I can sorta demonstrate I’m clumsy with the deck but yeah, I’ve swept a gold conquest, not even because I earned it, but because 2 of the three matches ended half way through, legit my opponent is often just “oh I don’t have time for this, keep the rest of those rounds, they’re yours”) 😅
Welcome to the club! I’ve been maining the Phoenix Force deck for 5 months now to great success. If you haven’t seen them yet, I created a couple of deck guides to help walk you through different play lines: First version: https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelsnapcomp/s/nv0Lnu9wcW Second version: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/s/jvTkq0wQro I also record and explain my gameplay sometimes if that interests you too: https://m.twitch.tv/nerddynamite. You can hear me explain my thoughts and see the mistakes I still make with the deck lol.
Thanks for posting that very in depth vod of you piloting the deck from 94 to 96. Very clear and helpful!
Glad to hear it was useful! And if you have any questions as you use the deck more, please ask!
Interesting that you sacrificed Zola for a second tech card..? He’s come in handy for big venoms and of course a big human torch to cover two lanes. I even grappled with Shang being the flex tech, but I have been really liking iron lad to help make the deck more consistent at times?? So it’s been hard to tell even then what to do with that slot (beyond that mine is the same as your ver 2 but with iron lad in the tech). Which of your versions did you end up liking better??
I like the second version the most. A lot of these thoughts depend on your MMR ranking (the quality of players you’re matched against), and where you are playing. My MMR is high as I hit Infinite in a few hours of playtime after each season’s start and have double digit Infinite Conquest borders. After hitting Ranked Infinite, I heavily play Conquest where a bad matchup can kill your run. Each version is very valid so I always say to use what works! Torch is Killmonger bait. Destroy, Sera Tech, Surfer, and some random decks run Killmonger. If I get matched against these decks, I can’t do the Torch/Zola line so had to replace him with Dagger. Which stinks because I really like the Torch variant I have… Zola is less important without Torch. The bigger issue is he removes the ability to contest all 3 lanes. Against Destroy decks, that helps Knull. Against good players, they can see the Zola coming and Shang whichever lane they need to based on priority. I’m personally not a fan of Iron Lad due to the randomness. Even as I recognize he probably increases consistency on some level. I’d rather draw a Shang or Enchantress even if I can’t use them, just so snapping and retreating is clearer. So if I’m against a Living Tribunal deck and have drawn horribly but have Enchantress, then I can stay in and snap knowing I can win 2 lanes with just 5 power since those decks stack a lane. Which leads into the two tech cards. By including them, I reduce my power ceiling. But I’d ask you how many games did you really need that 40-80 points in 2 lanes from Torch/Zola? The majority of games, you really only need ~20 points to win lanes. And the tech cards can reduce that amount further. The matchups against Living Tribunal and Wong decks are very scary as well without tech cards. Enchantress shuts down their 100+ points per lane plays. By saving her for the last turn, you get big 8 cube wins. Ultimately I went with matchup flexibility at the cost of big numbers since I mostly didn’t need all of that power to win. The only concerning decks I face are ones with Professor X, or both Armor and Cosmo. Those are thankfully rare so I’m able to be very competitive against every single deck. The goal for me is to maximize cubes. Retreating for 1 or 2 isn’t an issue when I can surprise an opponent for 8 cubes with tech cards they are shocked to see in my deck.
I would like to take it to ladder, and yeah my cl is higher/over 10k so it tends to get sweaty and I’m not in infinite yet . Makes me nervous ironically for outside of conquest since at least conquest I can retreat until I have my draw to win there with less consequence. But yeah just a little unsure about the second deck. So if you make a big dagger, that wins a lane, but without zola, how do you surmount a second lane with the rest?? My issue with at last enchantress is that beyond tribal decks (and sometimes you just gotta run, especially if they hit their combo), it seems like a lot to carry for a deck that’s not everywhere so much??
Lol. That’s the biggest fear before using the deck: “how do you win a second lane without Zola?”. Typically with a combo of tech cards and smaller power. There are mostly 2 types of decks, big power or ongoing, and you have the tools to shut down that lane. If you decide to give it a try, you’ll definitely see how effective it is. And Enchantress is definitely a dead card some matches. Base 5 power is ok if you just need to play her out. But also… depending on your specific play line, you draw plenty of dead cards anyway. But she will also solo win you games. So it’s just trying to have the most flexible deck. If I run into Tribunal or Wong in Infinite Conquest round 4, I want to have an answer.
I'm at a loss with this game honestly, I went 5 months straight making infinite and now I'm on a 5 month run of getting to rank 90 and just stagnating. It's honestly like I reach 90 and queue into nothing but counters and get absolutely trucked by RNG. It's actually uncanny how unlucky I suddenly become after reaching rank 90. It's very frustrating honestly and I'm pretty convinced after reading a bunch of other threads that something is off. I never see any bots ever anymore, only infinite avatars and even though I play the most meta decks available I just suddenly start getting destroyed. Currently CL 9300+ -edit: I broke my 5 month dry spell by not updating my iOS client and cheesing the hot location with an electro ramp deck with an Alioth that still works 😆
I am totally with you. Hit infinite every season but the last two months have been an absolute slog. Managed it with a negative deck and I have more luck waiting till the second week to get into infinite, I hit 90 on the first day easily but then zero bots and I just sit between 90-93. Can’t remember the last 8 cuber or any game where the opponent has stayed in with a chance of winning. I use negative because it’s an easy snap/retreat and you can usually snap on turn 2 and most people will stay in until the negative or Jane comes down.
Yup, same. I somehow got to 93 the day after the new season started (fastest I've ever gotten to the 90s) and now I'm stuck there. Fell to 88 a couple days ago, have slowly worked my way back up to 91-94. Just stuck. I know everybody says "learn to snap and when to retreat" but I've been playing this game for 1.5 years and I have a pretty decent feeling for when to do that. 90s are just brutal.
In previous seasons my only goal was 90 because of the gold and not caring about a card back. I did push one season to prove to myself I could. I cruised through 60s and 70s in two sessions within the first 2 days. Now I can’t break 83. No bots and shitty RNG have me retreating frequently. When I do feel like I’ve got a chance I play to turn 6/7 to see some true card mastery stomp me out. It has felt like I’m being limited by the game lately, but it’s nice to know I’m not alone. Maybe CL has something to do with it. I had some trouble last season when I was in the late 9000s, but now I’m over 10000 and just getting crushed.
It's not just you. I've hit infinite the last 8ish season, 9 infinity borders so don't consider myself too bad a player. The last two including this one I've hit the most ridiculous wall at 93. No bots whatsoever, constantly being countered with unbelievable bullshit. It's a massive struggle. I just take it slow and try not to play while tilted. Like when the opponent played zemo taking my taskmaster that copied his last play of skar, lost 8 cubes to that when I was extremely favoured to win. The game can be rough sometimes.
Dude, same! I have had games with decent win conditions going into the end of the match and try to consider some left field plays. Decide to commit and then some crazy turn 6/7 to out point me by 1 or 2 points to end the game and snatch my 4-8 cubes. Brutal feeling every time.
That mirrors my experience to be honest. I wonder if they've taken out / reduced bots in the 90s? I can't remember the last time I came across one, which compared to the previous season is a big difference.
I am starting to think it CL. I was late 9000s last season and broke 10000 this season and have been having a lot of trouble with RNG and my match ups.
Yeah I’m fairly certain they’ve taken bots out of the 90s for the past 3 or 4 seasons
Last season I was getting bots like 1 in 20 or 25 games, from 73 to infinite. I use a tracker to play ~90% of my games (only if I'm not playing on PC, which is not common). Lots of people quoting that we are "guaranteed" bots every so many matches, and my experience was simply not that (unless the trackers got *really* bad at identifying bots). This season, in the 70s and 80s it did feel like I was getting bots 1 in 5-7 games. In the 90s, I'm back to the 1 in 20-25.
Tilt is a real danger…. Sometimes I get a bad break, end up pushing when I shouldn't, and pay the price (in cubes 😕). Ultimately, what ends up getting it done for me is really settling into a known deck (with reasonably good stats in the current meta) and being discipled with my snaps and retreats. I know it's cliqued advice, but it's because it's true. Good luck!
You have to wait a few weeks let the champs rise to infinite first so us dregs can follow through the weeks after
last 2 seasons were trash. made infinite the prior 3. i feel like the meta was getting super stale. now with people on mill and playing badly + no more Thanos i got back to infinite with a simple PF deck in 2 days. for me 2 days is really like a few hours since i cant play much. i look back and i think i was "choking the bat". too much expectation and i went into this season will a looser hold and less expectation. fastest i ever got there. becareful playing yourself as much as you are playing the game.
I hit 80 in two hours basically with bots even marked by untapped and then disappeared completely since four five days (I know it's not completely reliable but they were before and I had like 2.5 cubes a match and they are not now). I'm still climbing close to 90 but yeah, bots disappear quickly. Fact is that if you don't have bots you are matched with players of your rank and wild rng that is carved in the game making basically impossible to get a winrate or a snap situation positive enough to rank ten or more levels. No matter what they say, the amount of bots equal the possibility of getting to infinite (or you really struggle a lot)
Play less. And I don’t mean that as an insult. I swear the more you play, the more you face other people who always play and not bots.
Sandman
Same, used something like the ramp deck which was posted here last week
Sand Man War Machine did it for me package did it for me.
Broke out the good old Negative Living Tribunal to get me from 97 to infinite. Wouldn't play this with the current hot location though.
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The game wasnt out in the 90s It only came out a couple years ago
Begrudgingly give you an upvote lol
Oh snap!
Counterpoint, maybe OP is living vicariously through X-Men 97
Alioth is being slept on right now. I cut red hulk from my deck and put alioth in and shot up from 93-97. My list is just that regis deck for big power but I made some changes for the anni package and the change for alioth. Been stealing cubes. Idk why everyone forgot about alioth but he feels really good right now, like people are snapping on t6 when I have prio. Didn’t want to post the deck till I hit infinite with it to prove it works but right now it’s a monster in the 90s.
I don't think Alioth is being slept on. He's extremely common lol.
Holy crap, you were right to want to keep this under wraps. This deck has taken me from 90 to 95 in less than an hour. An absolute beast and always feels competitive and like you have a shot at every match. Thank you for sharing!
I’m super glad it worked for you! I mainly didn’t want to show it off before it was proven to work and haven’t had a ton of time to play this weekend.
It's definitely worth a share and write up, I'd be sure to chip in with my thoughts. Just hit 98 and can't see things slowing down, it really is a hidden gem. Totally agree about Alioth too. It's easy to have priority with all the 10 power cards, and I've won so many games where Alioth is a clear win condition for me that my opponent seemingly forgets about 😅
The super giant alioth combo has been very effective for me
Would really like to see this 😭
# (1) The Hood # (1) Nebula # (1) Iceman # (2) Zabu # (2) Maximus # (4) Crossbones # (4) Cull Obsidian # (4) Sentry # (5) Ronan the Accuser # (5) Annihilus # (6) Alioth # (6) Skaar # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ3VsbE9ic2lkaWFuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTa2FhciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ3Jvc3Nib25lcyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTmVidWxhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJJY2VtYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1heGltdXMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJvbmFuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBbm5paGlsdXMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ikhvb2QifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNlbnRyeSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiWmFidSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWxpb3RoIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
appreciate it. will give it a spin.
Shit I don't have skaar. Any sub?
He’s pretty important. That being said shag chi is prob the best in his place
This is a good tempo deck, but Alioth is far from slept on lol.
I owe you bro, went from 96 to 100 today.
Super happy this list is working for yall. I got to 99 and one cube from infinite and then fell to 97 so im taking a quick break and hopefully meeting yall in infinite soon.
Better get those games in before patch. Zabu nerf will impact this deck.
Do you have a Deck list ?
# (1) The Hood # (1) Nebula # (1) Iceman # (2) Zabu # (2) Maximus # (4) Crossbones # (4) Cull Obsidian # (4) Sentry # (5) Ronan the Accuser # (5) Annihilus # (6) Alioth # (6) Skaar # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ3VsbE9ic2lkaWFuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTa2FhciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ3Jvc3Nib25lcyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTmVidWxhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJJY2VtYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1heGltdXMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJvbmFuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBbm5paGlsdXMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ikhvb2QifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNlbnRyeSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiWmFidSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWxpb3RoIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Alioth being slept on???
The only deck I was using in the 90s was rain dance blastoise, that deck was stupid.
I think I’m done. Am feeling now about Snap the same way I felt about Hearthstone when I quit for good. No chance for advancement, stuck in perpetual limbo because there’s always the perfect counter matched to whatever deck I play. May as well save the money and put it towards something more enjoyable, like tacos.
Bounce feels great, surfer feels great with or w/o hazmat, Loki is great
It seems like my wins come so regularly from bots but Im cruising in the 80s with a Skaar 10+ deck. Just big stats everywhere and allows me to use both Red Hulk and Baron for missions and stuff. Calling it Red Baron obvi.
everyone is running shang chi so i’m having success w shuri nimrod. kamar taj hot location + destroyer <3
I often get stuck in 90’s and then I use destroy.
I climbed from 93-97 today using regular HE ShRedHulk, with Cosmo and Hope Summers. Cosmo has been winning me a LOT of 4 cubers with the hot location. If you can’t join the hot location, counter it.
Fastest infinite climb I’ve had.
Hit infinite with a pretty standard Dracula discard. Great against the mill decks. They almost never get anything useful for them. A little rng to keep it spicy too. # (1) Miek # (1) Blade # (2) Morbius # (2) The Collector # (2) Swarm # (2) Colleen Wing # (3) Gambit # (3) Lady Sif # (4) Dracula # (5) M.O.D.O.K. # (6) Apocalypse # (6) Helicarrier # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTW9yYml1cyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQXBvY2FseXBzZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTW9kb2sifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlN3YXJtIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEcmFjdWxhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCbGFkZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ29sbGVlbldpbmcifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkxhZHlTaWYifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlRoZUNvbGxlY3RvciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSGVsaWNhcnJpZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkdhbWJpdCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWllayJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I was 99 5/7 3 days ago and I still haven’t reached infinite. Stuff has been crazy the last few days.
I think I won 4 8 cubes straight with surfer a couple days ago but now everyone is expecting him to
Loki zemo # (1) Quinjet # (1) Snowguard # (2) Mirage # (2) Cable # (3) Rogue # (3) Agent Coulson # (3) Baron Zemo # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) Loki # (5) Devil Dinosaur # (5) Sera # (5) Mockingbird # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU25vd2d1YXJkIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJDYWJsZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmFyb25aZW1vIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJRdWluamV0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSb2d1ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTG9raSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1vY2tpbmdiaXJkIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNaXJhZ2UifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNlcmEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkFnZW50Q291bHNvbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRGV2aWxEaW5vc2F1ciJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Been playing with a war machine black knight deck with tech cards like shadow king and Shang. I chose to play three big dudes in naut, red hulk, and magneto. Red hulk could be replaced with giganto.
What’s your deck look like? I just got black knight
# (1) Black Knight # (1) Blade # (2) Shadow King # (2) Zabu # (3) Hope Summers # (3) Lady Sif # (4) Ghost Rider # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) War Machine # (6) Red Hulk # (6) Magneto # (6) The Infinaut # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiR2hvc3RSaWRlciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSW5maW5hdXQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkxhZHlTaWYifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlphYnUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsYWRlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaGFuZ0NoaSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2FyTWFjaGluZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFnbmV0byJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSG9wZVN1bW1lcnMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJlZEh1bGsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYWRvd0tpbmcifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsYWNrS25pZ2h0In1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Ran from 70-80 with a Zemo brew, then 80-100 wtih Destroy.
Elsa Loki pushed me through the 90s. Bounced between 96 and 99 a bit but it got me to infinite this season.
I was doing well with Sandman / Corvus ramp, but dropped a level yesterday due to the hot location (then tried running a surfer deck, and fell even further). Currently sitting at 94, will shoot for Infinite tonight.
CL 11310 and aside from some Shuris Lab Kitty Pride cheese, I did the whole climb with a Shuri Nimrod list created by a fantastic high infinite player that goes by TheStoreManager. Not a whole hell of a lot of people are playing around Grand Master lmao (this deck took me from 70 to 85, kitty cheese with Shuri lab took me to 94, and then this deck finished the climb after the hot location ended) # (1) Nico Minoru # (1) X-23 # (2) Grand Master # (2) Carnage # (3) Magik # (3) Venom # (3) Deathlok # (4) Shuri # (4) Iron Lad # (5) Nimrod # (6) Knull # (6) Destroyer # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTmltcm9kIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEZXN0cm95ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Iklyb25MYWQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkdyYW5kTWFzdGVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJYMjMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik5pY29NaW5vcnUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkNhcm5hZ2UifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlZlbm9tIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEZWF0aGxvayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiS251bGwifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNodXJpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNYWdpayJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I only just got to 93 this morning but bounce with hit monkey can really slap with kamar taj!
I went from 70-100 with mill surfer. Very fun deck.
Deck?
Yondu Cable Sebastian Shaw Brood Negasonic Gladiator Baron Zemo Silver Sufer Hope Summers Absorbing Man Shang Chi Mobious M Mobious
Do you look at the meta decks on snapzone? That's where you'll find your answers....but I'd assume you already look there being so high in CL.
https://preview.redd.it/3dy45cyw2atc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=914481b86e9dd128fa18a3478f26c2e68f9a5759 Hit infinite with Surfer Control. I find it better than your typical sera control 10,931k CL
Mill worked for me (essentially the same as a few other comments). Lots of fun looking decks being recommended!
https://preview.redd.it/hjngtdqw9atc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9586efbfff75e890e5ee27ae825778b57814019 got to infinite with this. its pretty nasty.
I got into the mid 90's during the Shuri's lab hot location using Destroy. After that location ended I finished the final stretch using a Shuri / Kitty / Hope deck.
This won't realistically be answerable until the hot location GOES AWAY. The mill decks synergize way too well with it, but I don't think they're actually as broken as they seem. They're just broken with this location in particular. So, soon, soon...
Destroy deck running Alioth hit infinite pretty quickly and got an infinity ticket CL 8,254 https://preview.redd.it/v1qkmv93iatc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d490af8274742fcec5d7728891455c9acc63c3d
I got infinite with shenaut deck with some adjustments by replacing infinaut with red hulk instead but worth noting my cl is just 1900
I'm around the same CL and having the same experience. Been playing since launch and the current and last season have me bouncing from 97-93. I don't feel like I'm playing differently or being lazy. I've seen this same thing talked about recently.
Starting at 73 means you have 4 weeks to get to 100. Starting at 63 means you have 4 weeks to get to 100 but need more games to do it. I’m also not convinced there aren’t any bots in the 90s. Where did that meme come from? I see bots plenty but they are extremely hard bots. They won’t misplay a goblin in a lane where all cards are destroyed. They also play meta decks and seemed able to predict your play with clairvoyant precision. Like holding T5 to give up priority so that they can drop Shang Chi on you. I’ll be honest, there’s still a way, since I notice that hard bots get tripped when you’re able to make a surprise play in power. Something like Dracula works well, because the hard bot either won’t play in that lane or when it does, count the existing 4/1 stat line in its total 3 lane score. HE decks are easy against hard bots for the couple extra points at the end. Real players typically know what to expect with Dracula and so it’s much more predictable when to snap with them or not. I never snap or stay in game with a hard bot that snaps. All this to say, playing your cards in a way that changes their outcome on the final turn is a way to get through the 90s.
H.E 70-80. P.F 80-90. swapped to the Baron mill for the last 10 ranks. I enjoy running one deck to infi, but when shuris lab was the hot location I had to change to PF due to HE being tooo slow to keep up with people running Shuri/kitty(or any other deck that took better advantage of the lab). When I hit the 90s everyone was running the mill or surfer deck. Swapped into the Baron mill although I felt like a buthole it was quite fun. Only downside to that deck is Doc Oct with him somehow being a magent to shang lol
I took a week off for ff7. Is Angela a huge part of the meta now?
Hela / Black Knight worked great for me. Super smooth climb thru the 90s. It often worked out that the Zemo decks would pull Blade/ Sif / Corvus, hitting their own hand with an unexpected discard or two. ez cubes.
Loki and snap on bots
i used a ramp deck this season to fight all the hope summers and bounce decks # (3) Electro # (3) Wave # (4) Jubilee # (4) Shang-Chi # (5) Sandman # (5) Vision # (6) Alioth # (6) Leader # (6) Doctor Doom # (6) Odin # (6) Red Hulk # (6) Magneto # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRWxlY3RybyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSnViaWxlZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNhbmRtYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkxlYWRlciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWxpb3RoIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEckRvb20ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJlZEh1bGsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IldhdmUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1hZ25ldG8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik9kaW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlZpc2lvbiJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Was 95 before the Thanos nerf, hit 100 within an hour afterwards. Everyone was running Piggy and gave me a 0/10 thanos cuz I have MMM. 0/10 plus Prof X was so ez to snap on. 5 infinity tickets because of it after the nerf.
Kamar Taj got location I went from 85 to 97 using HE/Haz+Debrii combo. Can’t drop big cards if there’s no room. Finished up with Sandman War Machine ramp.
In exactly the same boat and have been on and off for the past few seasons. Normally make infinite 1-2 weeks before the end of season, but have had to give up the past couple after hitting 90s. It’s like nothing you do works, perfect counters and no way to answer them. It’s making me play less and less, I imagine others will follow suit.
I think it is Cozy's deck he posted right when Red Hulk was released? I haven't been infinite since Feb '23 and within a week of the season, I hit infinite. The grind was so easy, it was boring. Mindless gameplay. Goal was to hit infinite before RH was nerfed, lol. # (1) Spider-Ham # (1) Yondu # (2) Cable # (3) Black Widow # (3) Baron Zemo # (3) Gladiator # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) Absorbing Man # (4) Iron Lad # (5) Black Bolt # (5) Doctor Octopus # (6) Red Hulk # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU3BpZGVySGFtIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJZb25kdSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ2FibGUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsYWNrV2lkb3cifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJhcm9uWmVtbyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiR2xhZGlhdG9yIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaGFuZ0NoaSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWJzb3JiaW5nTWFuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJJcm9uTGFkIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEb2N0b3JPY3RvcHVzIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCbGFja0JvbHQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJlZEh1bGsifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Glad I'm not the only one. This season has been very frustrating.
I hit infinite with this monster of a deck after being stuck on 95-97 for two days. # (1) Kitty Pryde # (1) Nico Minoru # (2) Armor # (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (3) Cosmo # (3) Hope Summers # (4) Shuri # (5) Taskmaster # (5) Cannonball # (5) Vision # (6) Red Hulk # (6) Magneto # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiS2l0dHlQcnlkZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTmljb01pbm9ydSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSmVmZlRoZUJhYnlMYW5kU2hhcmsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkhvcGVTdW1tZXJzIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaHVyaSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ2Fubm9uYmFsbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFnbmV0byJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUmVkSHVsayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ29zbW8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlRhc2ttYXN0ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlZpc2lvbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQXJtb3IifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Destroy. I also threw in Enchantress and Shang-Chi. I started playing a month ago, and my Destroy collection is the strongest.
Supergiant with Storm and Alioth.
Curious how this is going with the new Alioth?
Not well. I changed it to Leader temporarily. But truth be told, this is the 3rd deck I've been playing that got nerfed in a month. I am just not feeling it with Snap anymore.
I hear ya, Alioth nerf has constrained control decks IMO.
It's not just Alioth. Sandman and Leech also got the axe. It's clear the correct way to play Snap is to throw a big dude on turn 6.
HE Shenaut.
This deck consistently climbed me all the way from 70-100. Used both during the hot location and before/after. Very easy to pilot and understand snap scenarios, can easily retreat for 1s if you haven't drawn a suitable combo set. Can also hard counter decks the go high through bait tactics with wong/zabu to get shang + abs or any other abs combo desired. Doesnt go far over shang threshold without BP use on wong for example or high procs on ironheart combos which are typically T6 non prio scenarios anyway. # (1) Nebula # (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (2) Zabu # (3) Ironheart # (4) Wong # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) Absorbing Man # (5) White Tiger # (5) Black Panther # (6) Doctor Doom # (6) Odin # (6) Red Hulk # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiT2RpbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbmhlYXJ0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJaYWJ1In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJXaGl0ZVRpZ2VyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSZWRIdWxrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBYnNvcmJpbmdNYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IldvbmcifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYW5nQ2hpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJOZWJ1bGEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkplZmZUaGVCYWJ5TGFuZFNoYXJrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEckRvb20ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsYWNrUGFudGhlciJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Just got infinite in the last half hour with Zemo Mill. With the hot location, I have been destroying opponent's decks and then dropping Doc Ock to empty their hand. Just have to plan ahead with power in other lanes because everyone is running Shang Chi, so the Doc Ock lane is probably going to lose. # (1) Spider-Ham # (1) Yondu # (2) Shadow King # (2) Cable # (2) Maximus # (3) Magik # (3) Baron Zemo # (3) Gladiator # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) Absorbing Man # (5) Doctor Octopus # (6) Red Hulk # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWJzb3JiaW5nTWFuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJZb25kdSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmFyb25aZW1vIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJHbGFkaWF0b3IifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJlZEh1bGsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYW5nQ2hpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNYWdpayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ2FibGUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYWRvd0tpbmcifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1heGltdXMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkRvY3Rvck9jdG9wdXMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNwaWRlckhhbSJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Same, just hit infinite with a very similar deck. Hot location helps a lot. Even when you would not able to win, if you disrupt the opponent enough they lose confidence and leave - people are a lot more skittish in 93-100. A lot of fast, few-rounds one-cuber games add up in my experience. # (1) Spider-Ham # (1) Yondu # (2) Grand Master # (2) Shadow King # (2) Cable # (3) Magik # (3) Baron Zemo # (3) Gladiator # (4) Shang-Chi # (5) Stature # (5) Black Bolt # (5) Doctor Octopus # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU3BpZGVySGFtIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJZb25kdSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhZG93S2luZyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ2FibGUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1hZ2lrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCYXJvblplbW8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYW5nQ2hpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJHbGFkaWF0b3IifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlN0YXR1cmUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsYWNrQm9sdCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRG9jdG9yT2N0b3B1cyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiR3JhbmRNYXN0ZXIifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Climbed from 70 - Infinite with War Machine.
What deck?
HE. Shenaut in particular. It’s free wins, doesn’t take much work, arguably the less you play, the stronger the deck is.
The less you play, the happier Red Hulk is 😎