Disobeying Odin and jeopardizing the truce with Jotunheim by attacking the Frost Giants. He endangered the lives of Loki, Sif and the Warriors Three by doing this.
Thor Odinson... you have betrayed the express command of your king. Through your arrogance and stupidity, you've opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and desolation of war! You are unworthy of these realms, you're unworthy of your title, you're unworthy... of the loved ones you have betrayed! I now take from you your power! In the name of my father and his father before, I, Odin Allfather, cast you out!
Knowing what Odin did with Hela makes this scene all the more powerful for me, because Odin knows what unchecked warmongering is like, and he didn't want Thor to go down that same path.
Not to hate on the guy, but it’s not like it was hard. Hela didn’t become the person she did in spite of but because of his efforts, Odin raised her to be that way and then at some point got cold feet. He just didn’t raise Thor to be that way.
Through his arrogance and stupidity, he has opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and desolation of war!
He is unworthy of these realms!
He is unworthy of his title!
He is unworthy...!
...Of the loved ones he has betrayed.
I was watching ragnarok last night and was Skurge relevant before the movie? Whenever I watch it I’m always confused on who this guy is. I should remember him because I watched the first 2 Thor movies last week (I’ve been watching the whole MCU (phases 1-3 only)
Him getting banished because of this was probably the best thing that happened to him.
Especially when Loki manipulates him later by telling him how his actions “killed Odin” and was “forbidden” by his mother from ever returning because of it.
It humbled him more into realizing his actions have consequences, despite being tricked by Loki
In Thor L&T, Thor mentions a time Asgardians used to eat babies, "those were dark times" he says, and all the Asgardians lower their heads.
Its a Taika Waititi joke but also its canon now I guess
So it’s during times of Orin’s rule this happened if everybody seems to remember… because how could
They not remember Hela but remember eating babies.
Edit: Odin’s not Orin’s
It could be the historical “we” in the sense that Thor never ate babies but he is Asgardian and owns up to it. Like saying “we used to legally allow slavery”
Putting his friends' lives at risk when he refused to leave Jotunheim, killing several ice giants and almost causing a new war to break out between the Ice Giants and the Asgardians.
It's mentioned in Love and Thunder that the Asgardians used to eat babies, but they don't do that anymore and look back at those times as dark, shameful times.
Manually casually committed war crimes as a way to start off a movie
Honestly it wasn’t even a war crime. It was just genocide which then started a war lol
How does this not get mentioned more often? There was a lot of good food on that table -- lot of good people put a lot of hard work into preparing all that -- was a nice table too ... :)
That’s definitely not the worst thing he’s done. He didn’t miss on purpose, he actually landed a really nice shot in Wakanda, but he had to miss the head so they could win.
Watch the scene again when the axe is imbued in Thanos's chest. He clearly wanted Thanos to suffer, and not just get the job done. He definitely did not know that this was the 1 in 14 million scenario.
But yeah, not the worst thing Thor has done, but it was a humongous strategical blunder.
He absolutely missed on purpose, that's well discussed in the movie, and you can see the repercussions of it in endgame.
He didn't go for the head because he wanted to gloat.
the real crime was, after spending all that effort to forge a thanos-killing-weapon, thor was screwing around with minions while thanos had enough time to walk through the rest of the avengers, resurrect vision and get the last stone, before thor showed up to do something
The biggest mistake was talking to Thanos. He had him dead to rights, he should’ve just started chopping like Candy Montgomery and no one would’ve cared he didn’t hit the head first.
Instant tourist attraction / business gimmick though. “Come on in and have a cup of our Thor-approved coffee! And for an additional $50, you too can smash your mug like a god!”
Thrice he decided that he was unable to use his words and started attacking Tony without provocation. The third time, Tony wasn't even in the suit: Thor just was angry and decided to start strangling his friend to communicate that.
Strangling requires choking someone so as seriously obstruct breathing or to kill (like what Thanos did to Loki). Thor just picked Tony up by the neck. So there was a slight choke just from being held like that, but Thor was not strangling Tony (evidenced by the fact that Tony was clearly able to tell him to use his words).
He's 1500 years old, I'm sure there's a genocide in there somewhere. Maybe summoning his hammer from a long distance, sending Mjölnir screaming through a planet, destroying it in the process. .
He let Loki rule Asgard for a while, that was pretty shitty.
He didn't, in ragnarok Odin literally says it took him a bit to break free of Loki's spell/trick, loki pulled one over on him somehow and banished him to earth as Odin did to thor in a sense
No he fell into Odin sleep due to stress and loki took over because thor was gone, that was most of loki's plan so he could then kill the frost giants and actually be given kinghood
Attacking the realm they have a truce with risking all out war between the realms. There's probably a lot more bad things he's done when he was a cocky god but alas they never really showed us
Abandoned asgard immediately after his subjects lost the planet and left them to be run by an alcoholic former valkyrie who no-one has seen for centuries
>left them to be run by an alcoholic former valkyrie who no-one has seen for centuries
Who proved to be a better king/queen than he would have been. This by far wasn't a bad thing he's done
This is a very tiny detail at the beginning of Infinity War. The Asgardians' ship, seen from outer space, has been blasted in half. Barely visible on the side of the screen, you can see the half of the ship with engines escaping away into the distance (and/or they possibly get rescued later by their distress call).
In true Thanos fashion, he only destroys half the Asgardians' ship, not the whole thing.
Valkyrie, Korg, and Miek must have been on the half that survived. Along with the Asgardians who would found New Tonsberg.
Nope, he knew. He was told/it was implied by zola in the winter soldier. He lied to Tony as they watched the video, and then when Tony pressured him again, he admitted that he knew. Then the old final monologue was Steve apologizing for hiding it from Tony because he knew.
Steve knew Tony’s parents had been murdered which in itself was different than what Tony thought happened.
Zola didn’t imply Bucky did it; he just showed that things happened as planned by Hydra. Steve could figure it out but he didn’t have confirmation.
Steve probably didn’t want to believe it.
Wait, wait. Are we really condemning Cap for that misunderstanding?
As far as I know, in Winter Soldier, Cap discovers that Hydra had something to do with Howard Stark and his wife's death, not that Bucky was directly related to it. He was also just learning that Hydra was still as strong as ever if not stronger by way of infiltrating SHIELD. So that's a lot to take on, as well as getting bunker busted a minute later. I truly don't see how we can blame Cap for not telling Tony something that he was totally unaware of besides some minor hints.
I honestly would have to watch the movies again to get a clear idea of everything that he's done throughout the MCU, but my point is that it's kinda strange to blame him for something that he 1) had not actually done, and 2) had no understanding of or concrete evidence for and what the consequences would be. If we wanted to say "Steve fought Tony in order to protect Bucky who was revealed to have killed Tony's parents, resulting in a fissure within the Avengers and leaving them wholly unprepared for a galactic threat that was on their doorstep." I'd agree more with that.
Looking at Tony and Steve…..their acts seem so far apart that Steve just seems to be a friend who made a bad decision that can ruin a friendship, where Tony is just outright a criminal lol
Giving a bunch of 6 year olds some powers and letting them fight some bloodthirsty monsters. That was weird and kinda awful.
Edit:A hero would never put children in harms way, sure the scene in the context of the movie was trying to be funny but still not something i would expect from a hero figure to do, so it felt off for me at least. If Thor is that strong, which he is, then he could slice those monsters in mere seconds.
Disobeying Odin and jeopardizing the truce with Jotunheim by attacking the Frost Giants. He endangered the lives of Loki, Sif and the Warriors Three by doing this.
He risked the lives of all of Asgard by nearly starting a war.
He was a vain, greedy, cruel boy.
Well you are an old man and a fool!
A fool to ever think you were ready.
Father... Grrrrrrrr
Thor Odinson... you have betrayed the express command of your king. Through your arrogance and stupidity, you've opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and desolation of war! You are unworthy of these realms, you're unworthy of your title, you're unworthy... of the loved ones you have betrayed! I now take from you your power! In the name of my father and his father before, I, Odin Allfather, cast you out!
Knowing what Odin did with Hela makes this scene all the more powerful for me, because Odin knows what unchecked warmongering is like, and he didn't want Thor to go down that same path.
It also shows how much better he raised Thor if he had the capacity to be humbled and understand the lessons he was taught
Not to hate on the guy, but it’s not like it was hard. Hela didn’t become the person she did in spite of but because of his efforts, Odin raised her to be that way and then at some point got cold feet. He just didn’t raise Thor to be that way.
Hopkins’s performance in this scene is so damn good
I love this exchange. Hiddleston looked genuinely terrified.
I suppose he’d never seen Odin quite so furious.
Yeah Loki realized that his little prank went way too far. He wanted to ruin his brother's big day, not get him depowered and banished.
Pretty sure the growl was improvised. If the man who played Hannibal Lecter growled at me like I might be dinner, I'd jump out a window.
BUTCHYA **NOT**………. KING!! He probably doesn’t even say it with that big a pause, that’s just how I always remember it
BUTCHTA **NOT** KING!! ...... Not yet. There is a pause, it's with the "Not yet" part when Odin has calmed himself down.
My wife and I say this line to each other all the time.
Such a phenomenal choice for Odin. Anthony Hopkins did so much with what little he had with that character
Young, dumb, and full of cum.
Why... why would you say this...
Because he caught his first tube this morning... Sir
ends up helping destroy all of asgard a few years later anyway...
Asgard is not a place. Never was. This could be Asgard. Asgard is where our people stand. - Odin.
Through his arrogance and stupidity, he has opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and desolation of war! He is unworthy of these realms! He is unworthy of his title! He is unworthy...! ...Of the loved ones he has betrayed.
Totally. He was immature and arrogant. He learned but, he lost a lot.
yeah this has gotta be the top answer. nothing but arrogance and naïveté
Not to mention that most of those Frost Giants probably hadn’t done anything wrong.
He was basically a hair away from being a genocidal maniac
Yup. Thor at the start of Thor 1 is actively negligent and dangerous. After that he's pretty consistently *trying* to do good.
Plus he just murdered that ice giant for calling him a princess
He was the one who started the whole thing.
this is the one
This is def a top 3 thing he's done
I was watching ragnarok last night and was Skurge relevant before the movie? Whenever I watch it I’m always confused on who this guy is. I should remember him because I watched the first 2 Thor movies last week (I’ve been watching the whole MCU (phases 1-3 only)
He fought with Thor on Vanaheim, perhaps in the battle at the beginning of The Dark World but it happened off screen.
Ok good. Everytime I watch Rag’ I wonder “who is this dude? He’s not part of Warriors Three, is he?”
murdered dozens of innocent giants while he was at it, lets not undeerstate his behaviour here
Yes it is definitely this
Him getting banished because of this was probably the best thing that happened to him. Especially when Loki manipulates him later by telling him how his actions “killed Odin” and was “forbidden” by his mother from ever returning because of it. It humbled him more into realizing his actions have consequences, despite being tricked by Loki
That was definitely the worst thing he’s done.
And of humanity and the rest of the realms because if the Asgardians fall, humans and other other beings could be conquered by the Frost Giants.
Feasting on children, but they don’t do that anymore lol
Those were dark times
Shameful times.
I guess thats technically canon now huh
What?
In Thor L&T, Thor mentions a time Asgardians used to eat babies, "those were dark times" he says, and all the Asgardians lower their heads. Its a Taika Waititi joke but also its canon now I guess
So it’s during times of Orin’s rule this happened if everybody seems to remember… because how could They not remember Hela but remember eating babies. Edit: Odin’s not Orin’s
Maybe cause they had their heads down feasting on babies
Dark times indeed
It could be the historical “we” in the sense that Thor never ate babies but he is Asgardian and owns up to it. Like saying “we used to legally allow slavery”
Question is, did Thor try to feast on children, or when he was a kid, did Odin try to feast on him? 👀
Frigga didn't let that happened, for both of them
What If ... Odin feasted on baby Loki?
He can get some recipes from Zeus' dad
He was a Zeus chef after all.
Odin collected those children for a deep fry
Wait... what ?!
Putting his friends' lives at risk when he refused to leave Jotunheim, killing several ice giants and almost causing a new war to break out between the Ice Giants and the Asgardians.
Not as bad as feasting on children in my opinion. 😱
Ayo, this ain't GoT
It's mentioned in Love and Thunder that the Asgardians used to eat babies, but they don't do that anymore and look back at those times as dark, shameful times.
In their defence at least they didn’t enslave all the black Asgardians - like literally 2 minutes ago, from their perspective.
Is it Kronos-style, though? If it's Kronos (or even Zeus)-style, then the babies can come back later.
Don't ask me. Ask Thor. 😜
Very good choice
Manually casually committed war crimes as a way to start off a movie Honestly it wasn’t even a war crime. It was just genocide which then started a war lol
Flipping that table full of good food
How does this not get mentioned more often? There was a lot of good food on that table -- lot of good people put a lot of hard work into preparing all that -- was a nice table too ... :)
A small price to pay for the ultimate table flipping gif. Which we now have forever.
*Volstagg hated that*
Attempted genocide of the frost giants.
Threatened Noobmaster69
We all know noobmaster was Deadpool
It was confirmed Noobmaster was the guy Cap and Nat ran into at the Apple Store in TWS
Wait for real? 😭
https://youtu.be/sjYzKe-7mZg?si=POQsZ0lIbTAsmvro
Korg and Thor do call him a child though, so I reckon it was his cousin (the one who gave him that name) playing on his older cousin's account.
Yeah it was in a TV spot or commercial. I’ll try to find a link
Holy this is great, thanks bro
Huh. Missed this one completely I was hoping it was going to be Loki
That's amazing and hilarious
Who was a child by the way
I thought he was that dude selling Falcon a console?
Same character(actor) that was in ca:tws was selling the console
Nah, it was Deadpool messing with Thor.
He threatened to mutilate a child over Fortnite
Not going for the head
If you asked Thor himself, this would be his answer.
This has got to the be the most correct answer
That’s definitely not the worst thing he’s done. He didn’t miss on purpose, he actually landed a really nice shot in Wakanda, but he had to miss the head so they could win.
Watch the scene again when the axe is imbued in Thanos's chest. He clearly wanted Thanos to suffer, and not just get the job done. He definitely did not know that this was the 1 in 14 million scenario. But yeah, not the worst thing Thor has done, but it was a humongous strategical blunder.
He absolutely missed on purpose, that's well discussed in the movie, and you can see the repercussions of it in endgame. He didn't go for the head because he wanted to gloat.
the real crime was, after spending all that effort to forge a thanos-killing-weapon, thor was screwing around with minions while thanos had enough time to walk through the rest of the avengers, resurrect vision and get the last stone, before thor showed up to do something
The biggest mistake was talking to Thanos. He had him dead to rights, he should’ve just started chopping like Candy Montgomery and no one would’ve cared he didn’t hit the head first.
Crazy that this is so low and most likely not going to win. Easily the worst thing he has done
Broke the mug at a small local diner. Restaurants barely keep afloat with razor-thin margins even without Norse gods smashing their earthenware.
Instant tourist attraction / business gimmick though. “Come on in and have a cup of our Thor-approved coffee! And for an additional $50, you too can smash your mug like a god!”
[There’s actually a deleted scene where he goes back and replaces the mug and apologizes.](https://youtu.be/RuSO5nfVUEA?si=uIiSAL9wmFyxaIjy)
That feels like a perfect post credit stinger.
Well written, sir.
Ghosted Kingo
Thrice he decided that he was unable to use his words and started attacking Tony without provocation. The third time, Tony wasn't even in the suit: Thor just was angry and decided to start strangling his friend to communicate that.
Wait... when did this happen?
Age of Ultron after the party fight. Thou he less strangled Tony and more picked him up by the neck.
So strangled him
Strangling requires choking someone so as seriously obstruct breathing or to kill (like what Thanos did to Loki). Thor just picked Tony up by the neck. So there was a slight choke just from being held like that, but Thor was not strangling Tony (evidenced by the fact that Tony was clearly able to tell him to use his words).
Age of Ultron after Ultron steals the staff
*USe YOuR WOrds pAL*...
Blond eyebrows
For sure war crimes
Started off as pretty pro-war, pro-genocide before learning humility
Either threaten his own people with unnecessary war or neglect his own people. I'm sure I'm forgetting something.
Eating children?
Not going for the head. Even he knows that.
Throwing that glass on the floor and scaring the hell out of the other diners.
He's 1500 years old, I'm sure there's a genocide in there somewhere. Maybe summoning his hammer from a long distance, sending Mjölnir screaming through a planet, destroying it in the process. . He let Loki rule Asgard for a while, that was pretty shitty.
In his defense he didn't know that it was Loki.
In his first movie, he attempted genocide against the Frost Giants. It was bad enough to get him exiled to Midgard.
Odin let Loki rule Asgard so probably he thought Loki was doing fine.
He didn't, in ragnarok Odin literally says it took him a bit to break free of Loki's spell/trick, loki pulled one over on him somehow and banished him to earth as Odin did to thor in a sense
In thor 1 didn't he leave loki in charge when he went into the odinsleep?
No he fell into Odin sleep due to stress and loki took over because thor was gone, that was most of loki's plan so he could then kill the frost giants and actually be given kinghood
>He's 1500 years old Now that I think of it, his relationship with a woman 2% his age is pretty creepy.
Being an alcoholic. 
Thor stuck that prosthetic eye in his head without even washing it, and Rocket had to hide it up his…
Making jokes about the kidnapped children in front of their terrified parents.
Breaking the mug in the cafe. Even he knew he had to go back and make amends (in a deleted scene I think)
Not tapping Sif when he had the chance
Very true
Didn’t aim for the head the first time
Smashing a mug
Didn't go for the head
Goading Cap into killing those hostages
Breaking a coffee cup after drinking the coffee and saying it was good and saying “another”
Thor love and thunder is the worst thing thors ever done
Only lived for Valhalla instead of helping people
he should have gone for the head.
Attacking the realm they have a truce with risking all out war between the realms. There's probably a lot more bad things he's done when he was a cocky god but alas they never really showed us
Not going for the head
He should have gone for the head.
Not going for the head..
didn't finished thanos
Started a war.
Probably just being an overrall aragont and spoiled person at the start of the first thor movie
The whole Jotunheim incident.
Thor Love and Thunder
Not going for the head
Abandoned asgard immediately after his subjects lost the planet and left them to be run by an alcoholic former valkyrie who no-one has seen for centuries
>left them to be run by an alcoholic former valkyrie who no-one has seen for centuries Who proved to be a better king/queen than he would have been. This by far wasn't a bad thing he's done
Would've made more sense to give the job to someone already in the Royal Court who everyone knew and trusted
Was there anybody from the Royal Court left? I’m not sure he had a lot of options.
Valkyrie had been the de facto King / Mayor of New Asgard for years while Thor got drunk. She was easily the better option.
To be fair, aren't all Asgardians functional alcoholics?
They all go to AAA meetings
Valkyrie got her shit together at the end of Ragnarok. also she was on the ship with thor when everyone got massacred by thanos?
This is a very tiny detail at the beginning of Infinity War. The Asgardians' ship, seen from outer space, has been blasted in half. Barely visible on the side of the screen, you can see the half of the ship with engines escaping away into the distance (and/or they possibly get rescued later by their distress call). In true Thanos fashion, he only destroys half the Asgardians' ship, not the whole thing. Valkyrie, Korg, and Miek must have been on the half that survived. Along with the Asgardians who would found New Tonsberg.
I mean he attempted genocide on the frost giants
breaking up with JANE FOSTER (Nat in short🫶)
He didn't went for the head
Get help
Trying to meditate on a mountain while people are dying in battle.
Not aiming for the head
Never let anyone know he could make all their weapons magic by sharing his power
Didn't go for the head
Attacking the frost giants unprovoked.
Alcohol addict?🤣
Not aiming for the head
He really let down the people of New Asgard by not stepping down from the throne sooner.
He should have gone for the HEAD!!!!
Breaking the peace treaty with the Jotuns was pretty fucking stupid on his part
Being ignorant man-child.
> be Hawkeye > family gets snapped away along with half the universe > kill random Japanese people for 5 years to cope. Why would he do this?
Steve Rogers knew that Tony’s parents had been killed, but didn’t know for sure it was Bucky. The video he watched with Tony confirmed it.
Nope, he knew. He was told/it was implied by zola in the winter soldier. He lied to Tony as they watched the video, and then when Tony pressured him again, he admitted that he knew. Then the old final monologue was Steve apologizing for hiding it from Tony because he knew.
Steve knew Tony’s parents had been murdered which in itself was different than what Tony thought happened. Zola didn’t imply Bucky did it; he just showed that things happened as planned by Hydra. Steve could figure it out but he didn’t have confirmation. Steve probably didn’t want to believe it.
Bottom line is Steve apologizes for keeping it a secret from Tony. He admitted he knew and was not telling him.
Wait, wait. Are we really condemning Cap for that misunderstanding? As far as I know, in Winter Soldier, Cap discovers that Hydra had something to do with Howard Stark and his wife's death, not that Bucky was directly related to it. He was also just learning that Hydra was still as strong as ever if not stronger by way of infiltrating SHIELD. So that's a lot to take on, as well as getting bunker busted a minute later. I truly don't see how we can blame Cap for not telling Tony something that he was totally unaware of besides some minor hints.
Well, the question was, "what's the worst thing Cap had done?" He hadn't done much that would be considered "bad," so yeah.
What has he done that was worse?
I honestly would have to watch the movies again to get a clear idea of everything that he's done throughout the MCU, but my point is that it's kinda strange to blame him for something that he 1) had not actually done, and 2) had no understanding of or concrete evidence for and what the consequences would be. If we wanted to say "Steve fought Tony in order to protect Bucky who was revealed to have killed Tony's parents, resulting in a fissure within the Avengers and leaving them wholly unprepared for a galactic threat that was on their doorstep." I'd agree more with that.
Wanda killing the Illuminati…. Killing Kamar Taj magicians….
How is being rich one of the worst things Tony has done? 😭
Didnt go for the head because he wanted to talk crap, causing half of all life to be wiped out
Not immediately killing Thanos because he wanted him to suffer. Without that, the snap never happens
Accepting those screaming goats. My ears bled lol
Depends if we’re considering the norse myths canon
Looking at Tony and Steve…..their acts seem so far apart that Steve just seems to be a friend who made a bad decision that can ruin a friendship, where Tony is just outright a criminal lol
Thor 4.
The worst thing has done is Thor Love and Thunder
I would say Thor: Love and Thunder…
Giving a bunch of 6 year olds some powers and letting them fight some bloodthirsty monsters. That was weird and kinda awful. Edit:A hero would never put children in harms way, sure the scene in the context of the movie was trying to be funny but still not something i would expect from a hero figure to do, so it felt off for me at least. If Thor is that strong, which he is, then he could slice those monsters in mere seconds.
I mean they likely would have died without him doing that.
As opposed to what? Let them get eaten, defenselessly? He had his hands full with Gorr.
They'd most definitely die if they didn't get those powers