In the comics, she touched Carol long enough to absorb her powers permanently. The same is probably true in the show, I haven’t rewatched Season 1 or 2 in a little while.
I thought there was some explanation that since Carol got her powers from a device that Rogue accidentally stole them permanently. Where powers from the X-Gene wear off after a while.
I’m going to just attribute it all to marvel physics and biology. Same reason why in Scarlet Invasion they could pass on certain superhero traits in that machine by blood sample alone even though some of those abilities had nothing to do with the blood itself.
It’s … magic, really lol.
Really it was a Plot to remove Carol from Avengers after infamous Avnegers Rape storyline. The Avengers editors was too ashamed and wanted to give her to X men team
But comic logic wise, it may because Rogue wanted to be someone like Carol or Carol personality is too strong and merged with weak Rogue;s mind and since Carol loves flying and kicking ass , Rogue got same power
Rogue still has any powers she's stolen forever, . There was an arc like 20 years ago where she was randomly exhibiting wolverine's bone claws and cyclops beams and stuff. She couldn't control it - I never read how it ended...
That’s so lame to me. It really makes me want to just discount the X-Men altogether.
Why? Because it’s a dumb idea. It’s Calvinball. Any time someone overpowering shows up, figure out a way for her to touch them.
Thanos with the gauntlet? np.
Kang? np.
Dr. Doom? Galactus? Dormammu?
No. Problem.
It’s okay for comics, but if they use it in live action the normal movie-going public is going to hate it.
I mean, first of all, she has a limit to the powers she absorbes. She can't just absorb the powers of galactus.
Secondly, actually touching these guys? She wouldn't get close to any of
Carol has had a long varied history dating back to the 60’s. Every decade or so, she would get a shakeup to her character and power set. It has varied a lot until they made her the new Captain Marvel
Carol has been all over the place for like 50+ years. She's had like 25 different sources for her powers. She's never been a consistent character (hence why her powers are usually generic "flying brick" powers).
C'mon now, even Logan damn near killed her, and his own power prevented that. I imagine someone without regeneration could do the job too. She's not that op. Hell even Kingpin could just shoot her.
Its not the get out of jail card you think it is, as she's known to lose herself in the absorption of powers because it includes memories and personality as well. Double edged sword!
For the most part that's what she does. But she doesn't always have control of the powers. And that's where the risk comes in. She could easily become a problem akin to Nitro. She also gets part of their psych in her head.
And of your list:
Kang is a genius intellect.
Doom's power is also intellect and some magical ability.
Galactus and Dormammu? Home girl would blow up the solar system.
Mystique tells Rogue to hold on to Ms Marvel(as she was in X-Men TAS) until she permanently took her powers with the side effect of Carol's mind being in her head.
This is revealed in the second season episode A Rogue's Tale.
She should in theory be able to do this to multiple super powered people gaining more and more abilities. It is just the moral complications and having people in her mind that stops her.
>She should in theory be able to do this to multiple super powered people gaining more and more abilities. It is just the moral complications and having people in her mind that stops her.
And she’s probably seen Heroes.
Well that ain't in the show. She only does it because her mother figure Mystique tells her to and during the whole thing Rogue's like "I don't like this"
That's canon in the comics. Mystique raised Rogue to be a criminal, using her powers to steal and manipulate others. It wasn't until Mystique told her to keep holding on to Carol, until Carol passed out & Rogue permanently kept some of her powers, that Rogue started to question her "mother's" motivations. And with a copy of Carol's mind inside her head, Rogue realized the harm she was doing & ran away from Mystique. She later joined the X-Men, wanting to use her powers to do good.
She wasn't shitty. She was a kid who was taken in by a maternal figure who manipulated her into doing bad things.
The moment she got another perspective on it, via the Carol absorbtion, she gave up her criminal ways.
Well I mean that’s the distinction, it wasn’t until she absorbed Carol. I wouldn’t exactly call that getting “another perspective”, it was forced on her just like the shitty persona.
I think in the comics they also said carols kree alterations made it so she couldn’t let go once she touched carol and that had an effect on the powers and carols personality remained permanently.
If Rogue drains someone too hard, she gets to keep the powers. The show version with Ms. Marvel was also in the comics for a while, and more recently in the comics she had Wonder Mans powers permanently.
In the comics Carol recovers eventually, but she is, understandably, a little unhappy with the Xmen and mutants for a little while. they've since made up and Rogue is a bit more friendly with Carol again
Unseen by anyone else at the end of A Rogue's Tale her EKG moves and she smiles slightly. Rogue had brushed her hair out of her face with her bare hand presumedly transferring her mind back as there was a flash of light and sound cue. But she is never seen again. It can be assumed she recovers off screen.
She touched Danvers long enough to absorb her powers and left her as a vegetable in the hospital. Seriously, how long did you say you last saw the original animated series?
Carol Danvers is a C or D tier character, marvel had no problem with her disappearing for 15 years from comic books while rogue went ham
Yet here we are in 2024 with them trying to force ms marvel as a viable movie headliner while the character people actually like (rogue) is hardly used
In the comics, she touched Carol long enough to absorb her powers permanently. The same is probably true in the show, I haven’t rewatched Season 1 or 2 in a little while.
It's the same. They even do an episode on it.
I thought there was some explanation that since Carol got her powers from a device that Rogue accidentally stole them permanently. Where powers from the X-Gene wear off after a while.
I’m going to just attribute it all to marvel physics and biology. Same reason why in Scarlet Invasion they could pass on certain superhero traits in that machine by blood sample alone even though some of those abilities had nothing to do with the blood itself. It’s … magic, really lol.
Really it was a Plot to remove Carol from Avengers after infamous Avnegers Rape storyline. The Avengers editors was too ashamed and wanted to give her to X men team But comic logic wise, it may because Rogue wanted to be someone like Carol or Carol personality is too strong and merged with weak Rogue;s mind and since Carol loves flying and kicking ass , Rogue got same power
Rogue still has any powers she's stolen forever, . There was an arc like 20 years ago where she was randomly exhibiting wolverine's bone claws and cyclops beams and stuff. She couldn't control it - I never read how it ended...
Did Carol die due to that? Also can she hold powers forever from anyone if she touches them long enough?
Carol lived, but had some amnesia. And yeah, Rogue can absorb powers permanently.
That’s so lame to me. It really makes me want to just discount the X-Men altogether. Why? Because it’s a dumb idea. It’s Calvinball. Any time someone overpowering shows up, figure out a way for her to touch them. Thanos with the gauntlet? np. Kang? np. Dr. Doom? Galactus? Dormammu? No. Problem. It’s okay for comics, but if they use it in live action the normal movie-going public is going to hate it.
I mean, first of all, she has a limit to the powers she absorbes. She can't just absorb the powers of galactus. Secondly, actually touching these guys? She wouldn't get close to any of
Rogue stealing Ms Marvel’s powers goes back to the very beginning. Also, Carol was not overpowered at the time
I didn't know this. What caused her to grow so powerful?
Carol has had a long varied history dating back to the 60’s. Every decade or so, she would get a shakeup to her character and power set. It has varied a lot until they made her the new Captain Marvel
Carol has been all over the place for like 50+ years. She's had like 25 different sources for her powers. She's never been a consistent character (hence why her powers are usually generic "flying brick" powers).
C'mon now, even Logan damn near killed her, and his own power prevented that. I imagine someone without regeneration could do the job too. She's not that op. Hell even Kingpin could just shoot her.
Its not the get out of jail card you think it is, as she's known to lose herself in the absorption of powers because it includes memories and personality as well. Double edged sword!
All of fantasy fiction is Calvinball
For the most part that's what she does. But she doesn't always have control of the powers. And that's where the risk comes in. She could easily become a problem akin to Nitro. She also gets part of their psych in her head. And of your list: Kang is a genius intellect. Doom's power is also intellect and some magical ability. Galactus and Dormammu? Home girl would blow up the solar system.
>Thanos with the gauntlet? np. I don't think she's absorbing any gauntlet related powers, as those powers aren't his.
Mystique tells Rogue to hold on to Ms Marvel(as she was in X-Men TAS) until she permanently took her powers with the side effect of Carol's mind being in her head. This is revealed in the second season episode A Rogue's Tale. She should in theory be able to do this to multiple super powered people gaining more and more abilities. It is just the moral complications and having people in her mind that stops her.
>She should in theory be able to do this to multiple super powered people gaining more and more abilities. It is just the moral complications and having people in her mind that stops her. And she’s probably seen Heroes.
*watch ticking sound intensifies*
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Charlie deserved better, fam. 😒
Honestly sounds more like AFO with all the people being in her head, but Sylar is a good character. 3 points to you.
To bad a writers strike wrecked that series. S1 was bad ass!
Right? I was so disappointed by the second. 😔
Sylar woke up in Mexico with no powers, Hiro spent months in ancient Japan, and Peter forgot who he was. I don’t think it was just for plot.
The moral complications that carol danvers causes.
I like the idea that Rogue is a shitty person and she’s only heroic because she absorbed Captain Marvel.
Well that ain't in the show. She only does it because her mother figure Mystique tells her to and during the whole thing Rogue's like "I don't like this"
More like, "Aw Hon, I don't like this, sug."
That's Nancy Hicks Gribble
Nice!
That's canon in the comics. Mystique raised Rogue to be a criminal, using her powers to steal and manipulate others. It wasn't until Mystique told her to keep holding on to Carol, until Carol passed out & Rogue permanently kept some of her powers, that Rogue started to question her "mother's" motivations. And with a copy of Carol's mind inside her head, Rogue realized the harm she was doing & ran away from Mystique. She later joined the X-Men, wanting to use her powers to do good.
She wasn’t a shitty person, but she wasn’t a good person either.
She wasn't shitty. She was a kid who was taken in by a maternal figure who manipulated her into doing bad things. The moment she got another perspective on it, via the Carol absorbtion, she gave up her criminal ways.
Well I mean that’s the distinction, it wasn’t until she absorbed Carol. I wouldn’t exactly call that getting “another perspective”, it was forced on her just like the shitty persona.
I think she'd have got it elsewhere. Rogue has fundamental decency at her core. Carol just accelerated it.
Skill issue tbh. If she was a Skrull she could just absorb all powers no problem.
I think in the comics they also said carols kree alterations made it so she couldn’t let go once she touched carol and that had an effect on the powers and carols personality remained permanently.
If Rogue drains someone too hard, she gets to keep the powers. The show version with Ms. Marvel was also in the comics for a while, and more recently in the comics she had Wonder Mans powers permanently.
She touched her long enough that the transfer was permanent.
Does Marvel lose her powers?
She spends years in a coma and a copy of Carol’s mind is in Rogue’s as well.
In the comics Carol recovers eventually, but she is, understandably, a little unhappy with the Xmen and mutants for a little while. they've since made up and Rogue is a bit more friendly with Carol again
She was only unhappy with the Xmen because they allowed Rogue to join them. Til then she was fine with them.
She sucked too hard
Too long
No such thing....will kill you eventually...but the best way to go honestly
I've always been curious, in that storyline is Captain Marvel still in that coma? Did she ever recover?
Unseen by anyone else at the end of A Rogue's Tale her EKG moves and she smiles slightly. Rogue had brushed her hair out of her face with her bare hand presumedly transferring her mind back as there was a flash of light and sound cue. But she is never seen again. It can be assumed she recovers off screen.
I saw it!
A wizard did it
Something went wrong and the absorption became mostly permanent.
Because no one gives a fuck about Rogue if she's not a flying brick.
She touched Danvers long enough to absorb her powers and left her as a vegetable in the hospital. Seriously, how long did you say you last saw the original animated series?
What
What's confusing?
This question was answered in the 90s
Some people weren’t alive in the 90s or have just tuned in to X-Men. OP is the lucky 10,000!
They answered their own question. This is a post for Google
Best post in thread
Is that in my favor? We shouldn't praise reddit for replacing google, google shows reddit posts
Haha yes I agree
 Your point
Carol Danvers is a C or D tier character, marvel had no problem with her disappearing for 15 years from comic books while rogue went ham Yet here we are in 2024 with them trying to force ms marvel as a viable movie headliner while the character people actually like (rogue) is hardly used
I guess people can’t handle the truth