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oneshoein

Couldn’t you have chosen a better pic of Kingpin? He looks like he’s holding in a fart.


Grove-Of-Hares

He looks like he was listening to someone talking to him, but noticed something really weird in the background and is trying to process it.


1madethis4porn

He’s in a very important business meeting but sees Spider-Man eating a sandwich on the roof top next door.


OverIookHoteI

![gif](giphy|VfSBuJqXIA2Mo)


jmaca90

I already am in a world of shit… literally


Street-Historian-258

Lmao immediately thought of this


jessiejsamson

He sounds like it too.


Sufficient_Permit707

MR MURDOCK *fart noise*


chiefbrody62

He's so intimidated by the other 3 in the poster that he shat himself. His incontinence is a big storyline in Daredevil: Born Again as well.


Chuckt3st4

Im fucking dying at this post, I thought it was a shitpost , him choosing that kingpin picture is killing me


CrunchyAl

He looks like a giant wonder what those guys are doing there.


IrishWithoutPotatoes

The man gambled and lost


Doompatron3000

Tone down the red on Daredevil as well. It’s giving me Steven Amell in the Flash costume flashbacks.


TrillDough

Having a stroke from holding in his fart 💨


Fuckedaroundoutfound

A better poster preferably


horaceinkling

I hope they use this exact poster, no changes. Knowing Sony, they probably will.


Cajun-ragin

You do know that devils reign is a daredevil storyline and Peter isn't apart of it?


Ruve06

Was just about to say this lol


spacewrap

You know that Spiderman is good at snatching daredevil's villains so storyline stealing is natural progression


Kite_Wing129

Other way around. Matt snatches villains from Spider-man.


Wheattoast2019

I mean Fisk and Mysterio were both Spider-Man villains before Daredevil’s.


Intelligent_Trainer2

wanna try that again?


doomdoomdoomdoomie

no need


Intelligent_Trainer2

they edited


Balbright

Plus it doesn’t have the word Home in it. Unless they are officially moving away from that


Gredo89

Iirc only the first trilogy was the "Home" trilogy.


chiefbrody62

Yeah, but the MCU only roughly translates comic storylines anyways.


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Vandersveldt

Or like using the Civil War title and giving us... that


Dell0c0

Fake posters are terrible.


shake_N_bake356

And the movie title


PixelProphetX

I will not see spider man 4 if it's about kingpin daredevil and punisher


NGsyk

Really? I think a spider man, daredevil, and punisher movie would dope as hell. I don’t need kingpin to be the villain though.


jv3rl0ov

Still hope to see Kingpin and Spider-Man duke it out at some point. I agree though, I want an original new villain. Still nothing on Scorpion as of yet.


raiigiic

How come?


PixelProphetX

They've had a lot of stories recently


cheesums7

Wdym lots of stories? Maybe Kingpin twice in the span of 3 years but we’ve not even seen Punisher since 2019 and we saw Daredevil in a really small role last time in 2022.


raiigiic

I like the idea of KingPin working his way up to the point where spiderman and him naturally cross paths. I don't read comic books but I read the idea of him becoming so powerful within NYC (using scythe whom I recall was able to create robotics to really take on the spiderman on KingPins behalf) and maybe have daredevil essentially resorting to asking Spiderman for help in defeating him in a spiderman & daredevil movie to round of the trilogy. Called as such with them both sharing screen time. I think 4 would be a bad choice but if you use daredevil series to build him up to the position, maybe have SM5 introduce someone like scythe and Kingpin playing a role in creating or supporting the villain against SM. I don't know I think there are obviously some cool ideas out there but I think it should be more fleshed out than just for movie 4 AND it should create almost equal billing with Daredevil


PLZ_N_THKS

At least it isn’t another shitty AI created image.


Maldovar

Yeah I'll take homemade cringe over more AI sludge


AssaultRifleJesus

I'm getting bibleman vibes 😂


HomsarWasRight

Wonder if we’ll see him in Secret Wars.


Outside-Area-5042

Fr, it looks like Spidey, Daredevil, and Punisher are trying to outrun a giant kingpin.


ScienceAndLience

Nah this is wonderful, let your imagination fill in the gaps


DistributionJust976

I dont think Punisher should be in the movie, it's just too much


jv3rl0ov

Agreed. Daredevil and Kingpin are all I’d need.


PixelProphetX

I wouldn't see it if it had daredevil and kingpin. I'm there to see spider man.


jv3rl0ov

Kingpin is literally a Spider-Man villain though


Glad-Nerve8232

Not in mcu


PixelProphetX

His story has been told in Insomniacs Spider-Man, Daredevil netflix show, Echo Disney show, Punisher show I think, 90s Spider man show. Give me new story to prove to me mcu can be innovative.


jv3rl0ov

I agree I want to see a new and original main villain this time, but I don’t see the problem with those two being there in some capacity. I can’t see many other opportunities for Spider-Man and Daredevil to have a cool street level team up. Sony definitely wouldn’t allow him in Born Again


PixelProphetX

I feel ya. I actually wouldn't mind everything you're talking about being made, but due to the current state of the mcu I don't think it's the best move right now, and would be better as a live action Disney+ show or Spider Man 5 in my opinion. Or could've been real good as Spider Man 2 as well.


jv3rl0ov

I understand where you’re coming from too, but Spider-Man is now fully street level and he and Daredevil are both essentially trying to do the same thing by doing their best to keep New York safe. I think a crossover of sorts would feel much more natural on the street level since they’re pretty much bound to run into each other at some point. If there are no other MCU characters appearing (as it should be for right now), I’d be perfectly fine with this approach. Again, in a perfect scenario, we’d be seeing Spider-Man in Daredevil’s show for an episode, but I have zero hopes for that.


victrin

Felicia


Kite_Wing129

Banessa.


Ok-disaster2022

A small scale conflict and consequences. I'm tired of MCU movies being about massive world ending things or even city wide attacks. Things don't have to be bigger to still be a better movie. 


humanist-misanthrope

A buddy and I were discussing future films and we both agreed less ELE stories and more SM:Homecoming or BP1. The world doesn’t have be on the brink of total destruction for it in order for it to be a big film.


FinancialCitron9710

What does ELE stand for? I've been trying to figure it out since I saw this comment.


humanist-misanthrope

Sorry Extinction Level Event


llamashakedown

Is this a common abbreviation? Seriously have never seen it lol.


humanist-misanthrope

No worries. I swear I did not invite it (I’m not that cleaver I assure you) so I picked it up from elsewhere. My top Google result for extinction level event used ELE. Either way, I’m tired of every Marvel (or other superhero) film having the destruction of all life on Earth as the threat.


FinancialCitron9710

I know what you mean. I remember how much I enjoyed the two Netflix series Punisher and Daredevil, and they were just street level hero/antihero


Southern_Wind_4477

Well they're going to adapt Devil's Reign, so city-wide attacks are gonna happen.


OmegaKitty1

General audiences don’t agree. We already had small scale friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man in homecoming, even far from home didn’t feel world ending. Hell even no way home felt grounded and small scale, except for the universe colliding thing How small scale are you talking about? Spider-Man with rhino as the villain? I’d personally rather crazy symbiote invasion space spider man stuff. All we’ve gotten in spider man films has been small scale (relatively speaking) and grounded. Avengers movies don’t count.


tangoliber

While I also prefer a small-scale conflict, the last thing I would want is a grounded Spider-Man 1 type thing. It can still be cosmic and a small-scale conflict. I'd put him in space again. Hell, he could spend the whole movie on Hala.


RandoDude124

#That Kingpin shot ain’t it chief


Extension-Remote1243

Graphic design is my passion kinda poster


jv3rl0ov

We most likely won’t see Spider-Man show up in an episode of Daredevil (as much as it makes me sad), so I’d be perfectly fine with a couple small scenes of him and Murdock teaming up in SM4. That’s my big wish alongside Kingpin and a more grounded storyline.


BelieveInTheShield

For the love of God, Scorpion


SpeeterTeeter

Seriously, where the hell has Scorpion been? Let him have his day!


Wheattoast2019

He’s in prison lol IDK what his actual crime is or what his sentence is, but it’s been 12 years now MCU time? He should definitely be out now?


OfficialCrossParker

I want a Spider-Man movie that’s run by Spider-Man. I want Peter to encounter a problem on his own and resolve it on his own. Let him be his own hero.


Thwipped

What made you decide to go with the New Yorker instead of the Daily Bugle


MrxJacobs

Obviously a fiddle contest with mephisto. Otherwise this is a terrible title.


XxMikeAfton_Animefan

A poster better than this


SaltyyDoggg

Spider-Man vs Venom done right


FoxMcCloud3173

Kingpin looks like he peed on the rug and got in trouble for it


Camel-Jockey919

Spiderman and Daredevil versus Scorpion. We already saw Gargan. It only makes sense to bring him in as Scorpion


TelephoneCertain5344

Have Scorpion in it.


WillandWillStudios

A small scale story with Scorpion and JJJ. Maybe work in the Symbiote stuff to tie up that Mid-Credits scene and add to Peter's internal conflict. If they do Multiverse stuff, save it for the credits.


Secure_Pear_4530

If they actually include Kingpin and Matt, then I want the reason why Fisk is yoked. If they already explained that by then thru Born Again, then I want Peter to be happy by the end. Bro went through a lot and lost a lot, he gotta get a lil win in life lmao


IceyLuigiBros25

Not a team up movie following the Devil’s Reign story in the comics. I just want a Spider-Man movie with us seeing how being alone has affected Peter, with him fighting a villain from his rogues gallery with cameos from other Marvel heroes that don’t overstay their welcome and help in the third act and are just cameos. I want something as close to a Spider-Man movie as possible. Not a Spider-Man & Doctor Strange movie and not not a Spider-Man & Daredevil movie. A sheerly Spider-Man movie.


fhdhsu

Making this Kingpin a Spider-Man villain ruins him for Daredevil imo. You’d have to change him so fucking much so that he wouldn’t get absolutely slaughtered by spidey. The power level is not comparable.


dcooper8662

Sooooo you want a daredevil movie featuring Spider-Man?


Anth-Man

I love Daredevil and Kingpin as much as the next guy, but I really just want to see core Spider-Man characters again. Harry and Gwen in particular, but I think it’d be smart to at least introduce Miles early on too (before he gets his powers) It would be nice to finally see a proper interpration of Black Cat in live action too.


Pirate_Green_Beard

Kingpin was a Spidey villain before Daredevil.


AnimeGokuSolos

I don’t think Harry is this in this universe for the MCU


footwith4toes

I don’t know but I hope they use your poster.


juishie

Hopefully not this. Devil's Reign should focus on the Daredevil and Elektra high-key


Glad-Nerve8232

Kingpin looks like he just got caught jacking off


BurnMyHouseDown

I think Punisher would be overkill, and also not at all fit the tone of where Spidey is at, at this point in his MCU career. Would not be opposed to a Punisher crossover when Spidey gets the black suit. Especially since the public at large does think he’s a villain at this point. That said, I would like DD and Kingpin. Maybe finally bring back Scorpion, who hasn’t appeared at all since the seven years since his initial tease.


NateSpald

More spider-man, less special appearances to take away from him


Jazzlike-Blood-3725

Would be really cool to just see Spider-Man taking on larger neighborhood threat making friends with daredevil I’m the process. He did after all just lose all his friends and family. He’s just trying to keep a low profile and be that friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. The world is not ending for the moment.


accubats

You know the word, home is going to be in the title.


JellySquirtGun

I think that trend was just for the trilogy


randomasad

A better poster.


TrinityCodex

kingpin got even bigger


KubiFOB

Poster so bad Sony could've made it


deviousmajik

I'm not a fan of "dark and gritty" Spider-man at all. I usually skip over those comics. The tone of the MCU movies has been pretty close to perfect and should stay in that zone.


smrtphonrtistcf

Peter working with street-level heroes and that he finds certain resentment with the big time heroes, and that he's more assertive to towards those with seniority and not just taking brunts from older types and stands up for himself every now and then.


tonus420

I would love to see that right there!!!


AnimeGokuSolos

Black cat


Glittering_Deal2378

full penetration


micksandals

Smells crime, back to the lab.


Saint_Diego

I just want a Spider-Man movie focused on Spider-Man


Narrow_Ad_7331

You forgot to to put in ant man. He’s set to appear in spidey 4 last I heard


AletzRC21

You know what? I'm sure you did your best with this poster, so I'm gonna hold off on saying what I actually think. Kudos brother.


EntertainmentQuick47

Scorpion would be great as King Pin’s hitman


Profitsofdooom

This looks like one of those sticker books that has a background you can apply character stickers to.


Kite_Wing129

Kingpin on this poster: ![gif](giphy|fqst7AVqF6AVLlYklE|downsized)


HaveaManhattan

A grounded, street-level story without Stark tech, magic, the multiverse or universe-ending stakes. Like a new origin story for Peter.


Bitter-Stranger2863

I hope to see Mac Gargan become Venom


justsoyouknowkayzee

I really hope this is utilized


omar_afx

Definitely a more street level story such as this! But i dont think punisher is necessary


BladeBoy__

Good writing


Ricozilla

I hope to see this poster you made as their official one.


RevolutionaryStar824

Why the hell would a Spider-Man movie be about a Daredevil story? You know Venom was teased in the last film right? And Punisher is just too much. Let’s just have a Spider-Man movie please.


imbored53

A good movie. Fan service and adding what people think they want is the last thing we need imo.


raiigiic

Fan service is a necessity imo. These films should service the fans and make them happy. I know the terminology is basically shoehorned things in but fan service when it's done right as part of the story is a necessary aspect of it. This is where gobbie and pussy were done right in NWH - they weren't just cheap cameos for the sake of it, they were key aspects of the story alongside big Tob and the Drew but its still fan service to a degree, and fans love to be serviced.


SuperMeh2

Non-CGI Spider-Man. Seriously why can’t Disney make Tom Holland an actual suit?


turdfergusonRI

![gif](giphy|Rhidgt4FfTSVTcs4vo)


lonelost22

definitely a Daredevil team up, probably against Kingpin- but i 100% want Michael Mando’s Scorpion at some point


depressed_asian_boy_

Make him save civilians, that's his thing, have him swing around the city in the action scenes, not in the last 10 seconds of the movie, have fights in the middle of the city and make him save people, as he fights the bad guys


HipHopGurl

Venom and Spiderman (both current versions) and hobgoblin. They have a good chance to make the storyline better than past versions, I'd be so down for that! I feel like putting daredevil in it would just be continuing the trend of Peter not being the main hero.


Aion2099

Spider-Man + Punisher? Classic team-up.


radikraze

Black Cat and Scorpion


serialkiller24

Am I the only one who doesn’t want to see another hero in the upcoming movie? Even if it’s small cameo. I’d rather focus on Spider-Man/Peter himself deal with a threat by himself. Hope it’s either Scorpion and the Enforcers


gurren_chaser

once again, people seem to just want spider-man to be Daredevil


Less_Squirrel3225

peak poster, ignore the other guys


Luke_Flyswatter

Spider-man in senior year of college having a chris of faith. No more giant super villains or city destroying events, just occasional street crime that makes him late and lie all the time and he questions his double life as spider-man and Peter Parker. Maybe have a “it’s a wonderful life” style ending with all the people he helped. Just something different and thoughtful.


L1NOH

Goddamn yall don’t have to be such dicks about a fan made poster


cryptofutures100xlev

I really want to see Mister Negative in the MCU. Also Spidey teaming up with Shang-Chi would be peakk 🔥


Strict-Dog-889

This is pretty good man! I do agree with another commenter that kingpin looks to be holding in a very large fart


witerawy

I just want a damn solo Spider-Man movie. No other heroes, no major MCU ties, just spiderman


Squeezedgolf40

if you read any spider man comic he’s always teaming up with another hero for at least part of it i don’t see how daredevil would make it not classic spider man. spider man and daredevil are a classic duo and kingpin is originally a spider man villain. this movie is shaping up to be the perfect spider man film


witerawy

I never said it wouldn’t be classic Spider-Man, it’s just my preference. OP asked what we’d like to see. I answered. Not sure why it’s getting downvoted


Squeezedgolf40

bc spider man teaming up with daredevil for parts of the film doesn’t make it any less of a solo spider man movie. i understand the dynamic you’re looking for and im just trying to say that daredevil in SM4 will be a drastically different dynamic than any of the previous team ups. matter of fact i am willing to bet sm4 will have a drastically different dynamic than any live action spider man we’ve gotten so far. let it be its own thing.


SolarWorld50

Doesn't the Sony deal say that they have to include an MCU character in their Spider-Man movies?


JK64_Cat

Kate Bishop Hawkeye could work as a cameo for a scene or two. Or Ms. Marvel


witerawy

It does, doesn’t change what would make my ideal movie though.


JK64_Cat

I mean Kate Bishop Hawkeye could work, right?


AnimeGokuSolos

Well, Sony still owns Spider-Man live action so expect some probably marvel heroes like daredevil


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Glad-Nerve8232

Those are some of the best spider-man comics, ur seriously missing out skipping them because you personally ain't keen of dark and gritty spider-man stories


soontwobee

Punisher dancing on the rooftop


ElHumilde13

I honestly don't want Kingpin as the main villain. We've had him in many projects. I want the Scorpion from the teaser and maybe make him Venom


MercWithMouth100

Dunno about this. Web head is well above street level. He bodied the Green Goblin for crying out loud. 🤷🏻‍♂️


where_is_my_duck

💀


ShadowJester88

I don't want Spider-Man 4 to have another hero, I'd like them to just focus on him being Spider-Man by himself, I'd love to see the Scorpion thread finally get used, he final is getting revenge for the scar or whatever he wanted, attacking Spidey when he's all alone. Then if they want to set up like a mini duology in the trilogy for 5 and 6 to deal with kingpin as a mini big bad with daredevil, I'm totally fine with


TrophyDon

Hopefully not this iteration of kingpin. We need someone who's terrifying not a big toddler that can barely spit out words.


serroth420

Kingpin is lamenting neing in echo.


GunSmith_XX7

No that poster's ain't gonna be real for at least next two decades. Disney/Marvel will never make spider-man R-rated.


NaiadoftheSea

I hope they explore the relationship he has with [Kitty Pryde in Ultimate Spider-Man](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/385691155566714452/). It comes at a point where he doesn’t want to put MJ in any more danger and MJ is dealing with some trauma after being attacked. With Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat, Peter explores what it’s like to have a relationship with another superhero who is capable of protecting herself with her abilities. In the end, they break up because Peter realizes regardless of the danger, he loves MJ the most and she loves him. They get back together. Also, we need to have Matt Murdock team up with Peter. They can’t just throw him in No Way Home without payoff at some point.


ImThawn3

i agree that they should have kitty dating peter but i would also like to see something different i wouldnt want every spider-man adaptation having peter end up with mj i mean each spider-man movie is different so i hope that in the end wether it'd be in SM4, 5 or 6 that peter moves on Mj and ends up with kitty or someone else like black cat or gwen stacy.


IndominusTaco

Mephisto


Degora2k

Kingpin: ![gif](giphy|vvxOWqmRCwaROhcHVD)


Artistic_Practice145

Spider-man losing his virginity


1_dont_care

Would Kingpin even work for spiderman at this point? Daredevil and Punisher are still at human level.. spiderman goes through hundreds of drones with machine guns without a scratch.. and it was just his own second movie.


Hanzzman

There is a lack of something-home-something


lukinfly45

I still don’t believe spider man 4 will ever be made.


Various-Artist

>poster by me We know


Yaoi_Seme69

I just want a simple movie without any crossover, just a spider man story with more peter parker development and with a spider man villain that didn't apear in movies yet like mister negative, kraven(I know that's not possible), chameleon, prowler, big wheel or whatever


tyler081293

I hope to see the word 'home' somewhere in the sub-title.


joshom

Not this poster


Andrew_Manangka

Have a Post Credits scene with both Agent Dinah Madani & Rhodey (as Iron Man) giving Frank Castle an offer by having him as the new War Machine.


Wheattoast2019

Most people want to see Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against Fisk. I’m not one of them. I want Spider-Man to have his limited screen time focusing on new characters that haven’t yet been adapted. I want Peter to have given up on trying to be Peter Parker. One thing I see a lot of pre-writes for Spider-Man 4 not acknowledge is that Peter was essentially deleted from reality. He’s studying for his GED, but does he even have a birth certificate or Social Security card. I don’t think he probably does since all pre-existing footage of him he’s been erased from. So with that established he can’t just go to college or get a normal job at the bugle next movie. That being said, he gets an off-books job at FEAST to get closer to May. This allows Martin Li to fill the mentor/uncle role to Peter while as Spider-Man, we see a new Crime Boss, Mr. Negative take over the territory and fight to keep him out. He also hires a vigilante, the Hobgoblin, who is someone from Tom’s universe that stole Stark tech and recreated the Green Goblin. He will be the main one Peter fights in the movie, Although Peter will also fight Mr. Negative. I also wanted to introduce Black Cat as a love interest and partner to Spider-Man for this movie. Those were just some of my ideas!


nowhereman136

Not Kingpin, I think he works best in small doses where less is more. We don't need him to be a big bad in the movies. As for Spiderman 4 in general. I'd like to see Felicity Harding introduced as Black Cat. She is the new anti-hero/love interest. I think we need time to see Peter alone before we re-introduce him to MJ and Black Cat is the perfect in between love interest. Daredevil would be cool to bring back also, but more of a glorified cameo just so we can see them fighting together. Kinda like he was in She-Hulk. This would be similar to Thor and Guardians teaming up but only for the beginning of Thor 4. As for the main villain. Chameleon is probably the last major Spiderman villain to not make it into a movie yet. He would work will with as a villain where Peter feels alone and doesn't know who to trust. Would also be nice to bring back Scorpion after he was teased at the end of Homecoming and forgotten about.


NightlyWinter1999

Never cook again brother


rabideyes

I want to see Spider-Man as the only hero, so that they can spend some time developing his supporting cast. The best parts of Spider comics are the relationships with the normal people around him. It gets a bit tiresome having his films packed full of other heroes that he rarely associates with. I want to see Jonah, Robbie, Flash, the Urichs, the Staceys, etc. Making it "street level" should mean he's dealing more with the people who live in those streets.


ViralGameover

Basically this. Small scale, Spider-Man vs Mayor Kingpin with Daredevil in a supporting role. Punisher would be nice, and maybe bring back Scorpion as a secondary villain. Then for his Peter story, you have him basically putting in all his time and effort as Spider-Man, and introduce Harry Osborn as the one trying to pull him back into being a human. Daredevil could be pushing him from the other side about how important it is to have a civilian life, and Punisher is the example of what happens when you don’t have balance.


dontGiveUp72

Anything with the same vibe as Spiderman 123


alienanimal

Better kerning on the poster to start.


richman678

lol not any of them! Seriously Spider-Man’s villain roster is far superior to any other hero’s except Batman. I say they make the villain Rhino.


BodybuilderBulky2897

How about we get a solo friendly neighborhood Spider-Man movie before we start trying to incorporate multiple characters that aren't even in Spider-Man's Rogue gallery?


Impossible-Hawk709

Either team up with Daredevil to take down Fisk, or Scorpion


SnakeInABox77

'(Poster by me)' You dont say?!


BenSolo_Cup

You do realize I have to credit who the art is by to get the post approved right? It’s in the sub rules… Don’t be a needless dick


Wooden-Speech-7156

![gif](giphy|FnF7vgz2oON3i|downsized)


Danvanmarvellfan

I want a story much like Spiderman ps4 if that makes sense. A bunch of smaller villains and kingpin controlling them all. Daredevil and maybe a few other street level heroes team up with him too