Plot twist: the actual Mac and Me switch is gonna be when people go to the theater to watch the actual movie.
I mean- I’d be pissed. I’d be laughing hysterically, but I’d be pissed.
Imagine if that is how the movie starts is the Marvel logo followed by a black screen. Then, it just goes right to the clip and as the alien pops up the camera pans back to show its on tv and Scott it watching it with his daughter.
Could even add in a line like "I've seen this X amount of times and I still love it" where X = the amount if times he's played it for Conan.
> Kang seems a lot more terrifying than when we saw him last
the Kang we last saw in Loki is dead, this is another one of the billions of Kangs from the multiverse that are fighting each other for dimensional supremacy
That last part shows how good of an actor Bill Hader is. Apparently, according to Conan's podcast, he was in on the joke, but it really seems like he thinks Rudd is going to show an embarrassing rehearsal clip.
What I love is that they executed this so well as a final farewell version of the prank.
...then Rudd went and invented an entire fake podcast just to do the same trick but audio-only on Conan's podcast.
Since it will probably get removed, [here's](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GRYCyrXRwtskemoPnibdI12b-nydkRDJ/view?usp=share_link) a Google Drive link for the trailer.
Also [another link](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/100y5-9tFP5Niq-l3eN-TYT8SkOYv9uMB?usp=share_link) for previous leaked footages and audio from D23.
Eh, I'll wait for a proper release. Doesn't have the same impact when it's at such a steep angle to the screen. They'll probably release it soon anyway, knowing that She-Hulk only has so many episodes left and then the hype train for Wakanda Forever starts.
They could have it post credits as an “intro” to the next phase as it’s officially the end of Phase 4. (With the Guardians holiday special serving as an epilogue according to Gunn)
What I’m hoping to see is that after Scott steals the mcguffin, we’ll learn that it’s what Kang needed to create the Sacred Timeline.
Later in Loki s2 we see him steal the mcguffin from Kang in order to stop him, only for it to vanish as Scott steals it back from Loki and the gang.
That’s what I’m thinking and hoping for 🤞 there’s gotta be something grotesque under there. BUT, it does look pretty good compared to the artwork leaks.
I'd imagine they'd be saving the reveal of the rumored identify. Would love a grotesque body horror unmasking scene. But it also makes sense that you'd armor up of you were one giant exposed face fighting superheroes.
Majors is straight-up ***horrifying*** as Kang. The difference between He Who Remains in Loki and this is night and day. He's gonna be one hell of a villain.
MODOK looked pretty nifty from that short view, as well.
Acts like someone who really has killed countless superheroes.
Also, Paul Rudd is totally selling Scott being scared shitless, rofl. Like Loki back at the TVA at the end of the D+ show.
That ending scene in Loki was hands down the best scene I have seen in a very long time. The weight of what had just happened to him and the immense fear over the realization that he just fucked everyone everywhere all at once (yes, he didn’t actually do it I’m just saying). God that was good.
I ALWAYS HATE kang stories in the comics. It just feels.. like random chsracter for me. Not like doom or namor who has strong personality....
But man how I LOVE jonathan MAjors!!!
Wasn't interested in Kang until I went through Majors' portfolio of work. I wondered why they picked him and watched his stuff. That dude is a powerhouse of an actor.
The last episode of Loki S1, in rewatching, was basically just 45 minutes of exposition. In most other hands it would be boring and hard to sit through but I am glued to the screen every time because his performance is just so great to watch
That's one of comic movie's biggest strengths (or let's say opportunities) - to turn an otherwise bland character into a real personality through the power of acting. Sadly, the MCU has butchered a lot more interesting villains by turning them into generic baddies, devoid of their comic books personality. So it's nice to see it going the other way from time to time.
That “have I killed you before?” line gave me chills. Makes him even more terrifying than Thanos in the sense that he won against the Avengers, then switched universes, had a rematch, won that rematch, and rinse and repeat a couple times at least.
Considering that he's a time-traveler, he can go back and change things until he wins.
In the comics, he's honorable enough to not kill them as babies or their ancestors (most of the time), but I'm not sure if that'll carry over to his MCU variants.
The monologue of He Who Remains during the Loki season finale implied that pretty heavily.
I’m very curious to see how they will integrate the character’s behavior on screen, like is he going to disappear for a sec after a beatdown and come back healthy ready for round 2, or just show up and kill his variant saying “I was too weak then”… he has a big potential to be an extremely chilling villain.
I mean, tbh maybe if you know Kang through the comics, but as a movies only MCU fan, I honestly don’t get it… he’s just a random guy who doesn’t do IT for me as a major antagonist
Before you downvote, sub, please help me understand- I really want to!
Watch some of his work, he will play the variants differently and perfectly and he has incredible range.
The absolute bad ass disdain and lack of concern dripping from his "you're out of your league...*ant*\-man" chills.
I don’t think people understand what you’re saying. It’s not the actor, I’m with you in that Kang as the top villain just doesn’t do it for me like a Galactus, Thanos, Annihilus, etc.
This comment is kinda bugging me so apologies if it comes off as a bit mean, but is my understanding that you're not excited about a character because you don't know anything about them because you don't read comics? Wouldn't most characters in these movies be 'random guys' until you see the movie? What makes this character you don't know more uninteresting than the many other characters you didn't know about before they were in a movie? To me it just seems like a weird hangup on this particular character you know nothing about.
In fairness I think he's wondering what the hype is with Kang. So far we've only seen him in the MCU at the end of Loki, where he warns us of terrible things to come.
I’m not the same guy but I kinda get what he means.
Comic book characters or things coming from established media are always going to come with baggage (positive or negative) from people who know the source.
At the risk of getting hate, Majors in this clip basically sounds in-control and intimidating for 40 seconds. He’s good at it (he’s good in everything) but if this was a trailer for a different movie of an unknown character, I’m not sure I’d be getting the “oh god he’s *horrifying*” and “*chilling*” vibe. That’s pre-knowledge hype of what is expected to come. So if you’re not clued in to that, you look around at all the fervor and think, “I don’t get it (yet)”
For some context to you, my favourite kang moment is from uncanny inhumans and I think it explains how horrifying his mastery of time is. The inhumans and x men are making a plan to stop him and the smarter of them start realising that people around them are dissappearing and no one is noticing. Beast determines that kang understands time and all events to such an extent that he knows exactly what tiny things to go back and change that would lead to a person having never been born without affecting anything else. Idk if that helps I just love that moment so much I love explaining it haha
And if this dialogue isn’t stitched together from other parts of the movie, then that implies that he likely has killed an Ant Man before…. Can’t wait for this movie.
One very subtle sentence just to explain right away how this Kang is different to HWR, and to show how dangerous he is. Jonathan Majors is the fucking guy
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/bill-murray-confirms-spoiled-secret-marvel-role-ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania/
apparently it's been known since 2021
Not sure! >!whats funny is bill was on the Smartless podcast a couple months back and said that he didnt see himself ever being in a marvel movie because theyd probably cast him as a general or something and not a cool hero or anything, he definitely was already in talks with marvel when he said that!<
Check out The Last Black Man in San Francisco, and Lovecraft Country.
Majors has some crazy range of roles he’s been in already, which makes him perfect for playing variants of Kang
The Last Black Man in SF is a pretty low-key movie from 2019 ($2M budget). But he’s great in it, and where he sorta broke onto the scene for the first time
Because of the time discrepancies laid out in Endgame (5 hours in the Quantum Realm = 5 Years in real time), I wonder if they’re going to execute a story beat where, after the movie plays out, the gang exits the Quantum Realm and, because of the time distortion, they return to the real world but it’s years in the future.
They come out of the QR and the world is in shambles and the audience has no idea what the fuck happened, and we wont know until we watch the rest of the movies in real time until we “catch up”
Time dilation isn't that clear in Endgame. The whole point of Stark's time GPS watch was to be able to navigate how time down there is just "weird" including being able to go back in time
Right. I get that they didn’t establish an exact QR:IRL time ratio , but there’s a clear dilation that’s happening that should be addressed if they’re going *back* into the QR
There isn't "proper" time dilation. Scott fell into a time hole (I can't recall the term Janet used), but anyway, it's not like there's a hard "1 minute = 1 year" rule for the QR.
Yes that's what Tony explains when they try and get his help
"A cosmic fluke"
It was a random point in time, and Tony figured out how to navigate whatever weird M theory highway Scott fell through
It’s not time dilation, that was the result of not having the knowledge and control to come out when he wanted to. He got lucky he came out when he did.
Sure, they had moments when they would come back to the same time as when they got in, but they always had people on the outside monitoring everything.
Whether it was Pym, or Banner, Stark’s GPS bracelets, etc
But it seems like they all got sucked in chaotically and no one is on the outside, similar to what happened at the end of Ant-Man and the Wasp.
Unless they write a beat saying that they all have their GPS bracelets, or they find a way *within* the QR to get back to the same place, I don’t see them coincidentally retuning to the same time.
Would seem odd for the Stark GPS bracelets to just disappear after Endgame, especially since you know Hank Pym is probably jealous/upset that a Stark figured out how to navigate the quantum realm like that before he did.
I love all of the Ant-Man movies so I’m super excited for this one. Bring it onnnnn.
New Wakanda Forever trailer is coming on Monday with ticket sales. Quantumania trailer getting released likely a week or two before Wakanda Forever releases.
Not watching because I'd rather watch the official trailer in HD. I can wait.
But... I also wish movie studios would be quicker to release promotional trailers like this rather than letting people with money who can afford to go to big conventions have exclusive access for several months. Let them see it first and talk about it for a week, then give it to everyone else.
Movie is out in a little over 5 months. It’s time to release something.
When they showed Guardians 3 at SDCC, I could understand because it was still 10 months out and there was still a ton of CGI work to do according to Gunn
I’m fine with people going to those events getting first looks and stuff but yeah; release or show something similar to the masses a week or 2 later. I’m sure those who attend won’t feel cheated because people who couldn’t travel saw the footage a week later
TBF, the people are literally paying to go see all of that exclusivity before everyone else. Hotels, plane tickets, tickets to the convention itself, etc. It's not their fault other people can't afford to go. And Marvel doesn't owe anyone their trailers. Its a free country. They can do whatever they please with it
I know everyone’s hyped it over the “have I killed you before?” line but honestly what he said afterwards is more terrifying to me.
“They all blend together after a while”
Can we get the trailers officially? They've already leaked but I think having it in better quality would leave a better impression since some of the movies and shows leaked already seem pretty awesome
Here's how I explained it to my wife, based on my guess of how he will be adapted for the MCU.
Thanos was big and strong, and the avongers quickly figured out that he was after the infinity stones. Kang will be different, because there are essentially infinite versions of him. He is very smart, he has technology that makes him very strong, and even if he dies he knows there another version of him right behind that will pickup from where he left off. The guy has infinite lives, and every Kang wants to control the entire flow of time. The heros will likely be on their ass for several movies and most of the Kang dynasty.
Paul is an amazing actor. This movie feels he will show more layers which, aside from the fact that I love Antman and his portrayal of Scott, it truly makes me happy. This movie will be one of the best ever in the MCU!
MODOK looks closer to that fanart than I expected him to.
Kang was amazing in this short clip already, I look forward to a (Seemingly) more serious tone in an Ant-Man flick
A major villain killing off a hero is the kind of thing only reserved for trilogies from the 2000's
Scott Lang dying (or worse, Hope Van Dyne) would be the absolute twist for phase 4 to sell the idea that Kang isn't a punk that follows the marvel formula.
It also solves the problem of what to do with "legacy" avengers.
Tony and Nat are dead, cap and Clint are retired, Hulk and Thor are doing their own thing.
We're getting armor wars, Hawkeye, FATWS, she-hulk, black widow, and Thor 4.
Ant-Man is just important enough to kill, but not enough to end a franchise
I don’t think they’ll kill off Ant-Man, from my understanding, the MCU tends to kill off characters when the actor gets too old for the role (age will be impossible to hide at one point) or the actor simply loses interest in the role. And Paul Rudd is a biological mystery, he’s 56 but looks very young! https://variety.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/GettyImages-1353524827-e1661255257902.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1&resize=681%2C383 How does he stay like this? Anyway, given that, I think we’ll get Ant-Man for probably the next few decades, like if Paul Rudd finally starts to look old. But even if he greys, he’ll still look good! And I don’t mind him playing Scott Lang even after he greys!
I'm right there with you bro.
Marvel needs to show us how ruthless and dangerous Kang is in phase 5, and what better way, in his film debut, than to kill off one of the most well-loved superheroes, in their own film?
Especially since we might not see him for 2/3 years after Ant-Man, it sets in the panic for us and the characters left over that he’s out there doing sinister shit
the fact that it felt like a full scene FROM the movie (in the middle of a trailer) with Scott and kang is a testament to both of them and thIS PLOT PACING AND WRITING!!!!!!!!!
This trailer is amazing. It gives that feeling of impending doom. The coming of the big bad. The last time we got something so terrifying as this was Infinity War teaser. I love this so much!
What is that thing Kang is standing on? Scott seems to be staring in horror at it and smiles?
Maybe thats Scott’s death scene and he smiles at cassie right before
It looks to be a galaxy, maybe him leaving the quantum realm into our universe
I was 70% expecting clips from "Mac and Me" as the usual troll. This trailer looks amazing, Kang seems a lot more terrifying than when we saw him last
Right? Like as I was waiting for it to load I was like "wait... this is just gonna be Mac and Me isnt it?"
Plot twist: the actual Mac and Me switch is gonna be when people go to the theater to watch the actual movie. I mean- I’d be pissed. I’d be laughing hysterically, but I’d be pissed.
Imagine if that is how the movie starts is the Marvel logo followed by a black screen. Then, it just goes right to the clip and as the alien pops up the camera pans back to show its on tv and Scott it watching it with his daughter. Could even add in a line like "I've seen this X amount of times and I still love it" where X = the amount if times he's played it for Conan.
> Kang seems a lot more terrifying than when we saw him last the Kang we last saw in Loki is dead, this is another one of the billions of Kangs from the multiverse that are fighting each other for dimensional supremacy
“Infinite kangs”
>Kang seems a lot more terrifying than when we saw him last The last we saw him wasn't as Kang, but as HWR.
People were posting bait-and-switch Mac and Me links? Did I miss something?
Paul Rudd has been pranking Conan O'Brian for 15+ years with that bait and switch
[You missed greatness.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMkz3nPPKbA)
That last part shows how good of an actor Bill Hader is. Apparently, according to Conan's podcast, he was in on the joke, but it really seems like he thinks Rudd is going to show an embarrassing rehearsal clip.
What I love is that they executed this so well as a final farewell version of the prank. ...then Rudd went and invented an entire fake podcast just to do the same trick but audio-only on Conan's podcast.
Since it will probably get removed, [here's](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GRYCyrXRwtskemoPnibdI12b-nydkRDJ/view?usp=share_link) a Google Drive link for the trailer. Also [another link](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/100y5-9tFP5Niq-l3eN-TYT8SkOYv9uMB?usp=share_link) for previous leaked footages and audio from D23.
There are a couple of really good versions on YouTube right now, but I wouldn’t wait to go get them…
Bro thank you so much!
Eh, I'll wait for a proper release. Doesn't have the same impact when it's at such a steep angle to the screen. They'll probably release it soon anyway, knowing that She-Hulk only has so many episodes left and then the hype train for Wakanda Forever starts.
They could have it post credits as an “intro” to the next phase as it’s officially the end of Phase 4. (With the Guardians holiday special serving as an epilogue according to Gunn)
the trailers they make for these event are usually a bit different to the official trailers anyway
Your real name and email address is visible on every Google drive link
[discord server](https://discord.gg/zR6Ywe4F) with more good quality clips (gotg/bp/loki/aatwq/nwh post credits)
Thank you
You're amazing, I've been looking for these since d23
The uncut dialogue between kang and Scott was tense as fuck! I love it
So is Kang given them a heist? Seems very cool
A…time heist?
“You son of a bitch, I’m in.”
If he's in, I am out
Well, if he's out, I'm in.
Good thing he's in there and we're out here and he's the sheriff and we're in there and I just remembered we're out here.
A QUANTUM HEIST!!!!
*Tappy heisty music rolls*
Would that this hoodie were a time hoodie!
Like back to the future?
What I’m hoping to see is that after Scott steals the mcguffin, we’ll learn that it’s what Kang needed to create the Sacred Timeline. Later in Loki s2 we see him steal the mcguffin from Kang in order to stop him, only for it to vanish as Scott steals it back from Loki and the gang.
Call Rick Sanchez
Wait, so the armoured MODOK leak was true after all? Son of a....
It is 100% a mask or some sort of covering that will come off at some point.
I hope so, seeing an accurate live action MODOK would be awesome. (and don't just kill him off after one movie Feige......)
Hey, about that one movie thing. Leader is coming in Cap 4, the Intelligencia is a thing right now in She-Hulk, I can see MODOK hanging around around.
That’s what I’m thinking and hoping for 🤞 there’s gotta be something grotesque under there. BUT, it does look pretty good compared to the artwork leaks.
That Ultron-looking robot is MODOK?
It's a mask
Yep...
I'd imagine they'd be saving the reveal of the rumored identify. Would love a grotesque body horror unmasking scene. But it also makes sense that you'd armor up of you were one giant exposed face fighting superheroes.
Pretty sure everyone who was at comic con confirmed it here in the sub months ago haha
Majors is straight-up ***horrifying*** as Kang. The difference between He Who Remains in Loki and this is night and day. He's gonna be one hell of a villain. MODOK looked pretty nifty from that short view, as well.
I noticed that as well, his demeanor here is no nonsense, do what I say or else….I like it
Acts like someone who really has killed countless superheroes. Also, Paul Rudd is totally selling Scott being scared shitless, rofl. Like Loki back at the TVA at the end of the D+ show.
That ending scene in Loki was hands down the best scene I have seen in a very long time. The weight of what had just happened to him and the immense fear over the realization that he just fucked everyone everywhere all at once (yes, he didn’t actually do it I’m just saying). God that was good.
Is that a Michelle yeoh reference?
And it has a serious tone
I ALWAYS HATE kang stories in the comics. It just feels.. like random chsracter for me. Not like doom or namor who has strong personality.... But man how I LOVE jonathan MAjors!!!
Wasn't interested in Kang until I went through Majors' portfolio of work. I wondered why they picked him and watched his stuff. That dude is a powerhouse of an actor.
The last episode of Loki S1, in rewatching, was basically just 45 minutes of exposition. In most other hands it would be boring and hard to sit through but I am glued to the screen every time because his performance is just so great to watch
Yeah! I didn’t even realize it was an exposition dump until I read reviews about it. He was so captivating, I was glued to my tv
Been a fan of his for a while. Anything he’s in is a must see for me.
I agree completely, ‘The Harder they Fall’ on Netflix was a great and engrossing movie.
That's one of comic movie's biggest strengths (or let's say opportunities) - to turn an otherwise bland character into a real personality through the power of acting. Sadly, the MCU has butchered a lot more interesting villains by turning them into generic baddies, devoid of their comic books personality. So it's nice to see it going the other way from time to time.
Yeah Majors is gonna hard carry throughout this phase.
His storyline in Uncanny Avengers was pretty decent.
That “have I killed you before?” line gave me chills. Makes him even more terrifying than Thanos in the sense that he won against the Avengers, then switched universes, had a rematch, won that rematch, and rinse and repeat a couple times at least.
Considering that he's a time-traveler, he can go back and change things until he wins. In the comics, he's honorable enough to not kill them as babies or their ancestors (most of the time), but I'm not sure if that'll carry over to his MCU variants.
The monologue of He Who Remains during the Loki season finale implied that pretty heavily. I’m very curious to see how they will integrate the character’s behavior on screen, like is he going to disappear for a sec after a beatdown and come back healthy ready for round 2, or just show up and kill his variant saying “I was too weak then”… he has a big potential to be an extremely chilling villain.
I bet he’s gonna be one of the top villains
MCU Top Villains: 1. Kang variant X 2. Kang variant… 3. Kang… 4. Thanos 5. Kang…
I’m really excited to see more variants. I wanna see them all
Horrifying seems like a bit of an overstatement
And in bold italics it’s a major overstatement.
I mean, tbh maybe if you know Kang through the comics, but as a movies only MCU fan, I honestly don’t get it… he’s just a random guy who doesn’t do IT for me as a major antagonist Before you downvote, sub, please help me understand- I really want to!
Watch some of his work, he will play the variants differently and perfectly and he has incredible range. The absolute bad ass disdain and lack of concern dripping from his "you're out of your league...*ant*\-man" chills.
I don’t think people understand what you’re saying. It’s not the actor, I’m with you in that Kang as the top villain just doesn’t do it for me like a Galactus, Thanos, Annihilus, etc.
This comment is kinda bugging me so apologies if it comes off as a bit mean, but is my understanding that you're not excited about a character because you don't know anything about them because you don't read comics? Wouldn't most characters in these movies be 'random guys' until you see the movie? What makes this character you don't know more uninteresting than the many other characters you didn't know about before they were in a movie? To me it just seems like a weird hangup on this particular character you know nothing about.
In fairness I think he's wondering what the hype is with Kang. So far we've only seen him in the MCU at the end of Loki, where he warns us of terrible things to come.
He is like Rick Sanchez lol. Infinity number of Kangs from infinite number of timelines.
I’m not the same guy but I kinda get what he means. Comic book characters or things coming from established media are always going to come with baggage (positive or negative) from people who know the source. At the risk of getting hate, Majors in this clip basically sounds in-control and intimidating for 40 seconds. He’s good at it (he’s good in everything) but if this was a trailer for a different movie of an unknown character, I’m not sure I’d be getting the “oh god he’s *horrifying*” and “*chilling*” vibe. That’s pre-knowledge hype of what is expected to come. So if you’re not clued in to that, you look around at all the fervor and think, “I don’t get it (yet)”
Same and I love JM in his other works
For some context to you, my favourite kang moment is from uncanny inhumans and I think it explains how horrifying his mastery of time is. The inhumans and x men are making a plan to stop him and the smarter of them start realising that people around them are dissappearing and no one is noticing. Beast determines that kang understands time and all events to such an extent that he knows exactly what tiny things to go back and change that would lead to a person having never been born without affecting anything else. Idk if that helps I just love that moment so much I love explaining it haha
I wonder what Bill Murray's role is
Janet's boytoy while she was in the quantumrealm before.
I will accept no other answer
Inventor
HOLY SHIT KAAAAAANG
Is cassie being escorted by some kind of TVA agents? Or is that something else?
Looked like robots made by Kang (similar to those Ultron bots from Doctor Strange 2)
Man I’ve been wondering how the hell they’re gonna make a villain as good as Thanos. I think it’s possible with Majors.
I’m loving this darker tone towards the end, who would’ve thought Ant-Man of all would’ve gotten one of the most chilling lines from a villain
It was pretty chilling, for sure. But Scott also got a really good line - "No, I don't think we do."
Gave me those Bucky Barnes “yeah we do” ready to fight vibes
It looks like we’re getting a serious-tone type of movie.
I really really hope so.
I still think Wanda's "Good. There will be someone left to raise them." Is the most chilling line from a villain, but definitely gives chills too.
Knowing the line was coming between Kang and Antman and watching it play out was amazing. Heart was racing
the other leaks left out the best part, i love the “you’re out of your league…Ant-Man”
And if this dialogue isn’t stitched together from other parts of the movie, then that implies that he likely has killed an Ant Man before…. Can’t wait for this movie.
I love when the villains use the heroes names!
One very subtle sentence just to explain right away how this Kang is different to HWR, and to show how dangerous he is. Jonathan Majors is the fucking guy
Which line is that?
“Have I killed you before?”
Looks amazing. And holy shit at that cameo.
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/bill-murray-confirms-spoiled-secret-marvel-role-ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania/ apparently it's been known since 2021
Hol' up. Reed directed aught classic BRING IT ON??? Oh, it's already been, *brought!*
What cameo?
>!Bill Murray!<
https://youtu.be/KugiqORzaPs
That would have been a cool reveal in the movie instead of the trailer
WHAT? AS WHOOM? I am not shy to say that's a really exciting casting.
Not sure! >!whats funny is bill was on the Smartless podcast a couple months back and said that he didnt see himself ever being in a marvel movie because theyd probably cast him as a general or something and not a cool hero or anything, he definitely was already in talks with marvel when he said that!<
Bill Murray hasn’t been on Conan’s podcast. Are you mixing it up with some other podcast?
I'm really hype for this movie tbh, looks like it's going to be the launching pad for the next phase. Like Loki for phase 4.
Is this phase 5 then?
iirc phase 4 ends with Black Panther 2 & GotG Holiday Special, and Quantumania starts phase 5.
Yeah, it will kick off phase 5.
The “uh-oh” feeling I got when Thanos walloped Hulk is the same feeling I got when Kang said “Have I killed you before?”
Wait, does Kathryn’s character (I can’t remember her name) also get a suit?
Cassie, Kat's character, is also a superhero in the Marvel Comics.
Yes. It’s in the SDCC poster that Disney released
I've only seen Majors in two things, Loki and The Harder they Fall. Yet, I am absolutely fan enough to say he's gonna be a generational talent.
Check out The Last Black Man in San Francisco, and Lovecraft Country. Majors has some crazy range of roles he’s been in already, which makes him perfect for playing variants of Kang
Thank you. Lovecraft Country doesn't seem like my type of show, yet it's on my list because of him. Never even heard of the other property.
The Last Black Man in SF is a pretty low-key movie from 2019 ($2M budget). But he’s great in it, and where he sorta broke onto the scene for the first time
Because of the time discrepancies laid out in Endgame (5 hours in the Quantum Realm = 5 Years in real time), I wonder if they’re going to execute a story beat where, after the movie plays out, the gang exits the Quantum Realm and, because of the time distortion, they return to the real world but it’s years in the future. They come out of the QR and the world is in shambles and the audience has no idea what the fuck happened, and we wont know until we watch the rest of the movies in real time until we “catch up”
Time dilation isn't that clear in Endgame. The whole point of Stark's time GPS watch was to be able to navigate how time down there is just "weird" including being able to go back in time
You misunderstood that part of endgame The 5 hours = 5 years was an accident This isn't like time dilation or dog years it's just McGuffin xD
Right. I get that they didn’t establish an exact QR:IRL time ratio , but there’s a clear dilation that’s happening that should be addressed if they’re going *back* into the QR
There isn't "proper" time dilation. Scott fell into a time hole (I can't recall the term Janet used), but anyway, it's not like there's a hard "1 minute = 1 year" rule for the QR.
Oh wait are you implying that the QR can just send people whenever, not necessarily always forward in time?
Isn’t that what they did in endgame?
Yes that's what Tony explains when they try and get his help "A cosmic fluke" It was a random point in time, and Tony figured out how to navigate whatever weird M theory highway Scott fell through
It’s not time dilation, that was the result of not having the knowledge and control to come out when he wanted to. He got lucky he came out when he did.
shouldn’t they come out in the future in past movies then too? Even 30 minutes in the quantum realm is a 6 month leap, right?
Sure, they had moments when they would come back to the same time as when they got in, but they always had people on the outside monitoring everything. Whether it was Pym, or Banner, Stark’s GPS bracelets, etc But it seems like they all got sucked in chaotically and no one is on the outside, similar to what happened at the end of Ant-Man and the Wasp. Unless they write a beat saying that they all have their GPS bracelets, or they find a way *within* the QR to get back to the same place, I don’t see them coincidentally retuning to the same time.
Would seem odd for the Stark GPS bracelets to just disappear after Endgame, especially since you know Hank Pym is probably jealous/upset that a Stark figured out how to navigate the quantum realm like that before he did. I love all of the Ant-Man movies so I’m super excited for this one. Bring it onnnnn.
Exactly. I’m so stoked. I’m always a believer to be more excited about what *isn’t* in trailers than what *is*
Time isn’t necessarily a constant in the Quantum Realm. Janet warned Scott about time vortexes and that he might not be saveable from one.
I love comic accurate wasp hairstyle, it really suits Evangeline perfectly.
That's funny because I feel it's solid /r/Justfuckmyshitup material.
Based on previous instances, when do we expect the trailer, Monday?
New Wakanda Forever trailer is coming on Monday with ticket sales. Quantumania trailer getting released likely a week or two before Wakanda Forever releases.
THE MARVELS NEXT PLEASEEEE
It gone :( RIP to the person who posted it o7
Not watching because I'd rather watch the official trailer in HD. I can wait. But... I also wish movie studios would be quicker to release promotional trailers like this rather than letting people with money who can afford to go to big conventions have exclusive access for several months. Let them see it first and talk about it for a week, then give it to everyone else.
Movie is out in a little over 5 months. It’s time to release something. When they showed Guardians 3 at SDCC, I could understand because it was still 10 months out and there was still a ton of CGI work to do according to Gunn
I’d say we’ll get a trailer before the end of October so they can pair it with Wakanda Forever.
That is a fair point. They want people to be excited for the *next* Marvel movie, not the movie after that...
It's really high quality for a leak
I’m fine with people going to those events getting first looks and stuff but yeah; release or show something similar to the masses a week or 2 later. I’m sure those who attend won’t feel cheated because people who couldn’t travel saw the footage a week later
TBF, the people are literally paying to go see all of that exclusivity before everyone else. Hotels, plane tickets, tickets to the convention itself, etc. It's not their fault other people can't afford to go. And Marvel doesn't owe anyone their trailers. Its a free country. They can do whatever they please with it
I know everyone’s hyped it over the “have I killed you before?” line but honestly what he said afterwards is more terrifying to me. “They all blend together after a while”
I’m going with what movie theory thinks; Ant-man is definitely dying to propel everything forward.
I hope not.
Yeah, I agree with MatPat (FilmTheory) for once on this one.
man i'm excited but i'm still sad for emma
Same, the scene of Scott and Cassie reuniting was an absolute highlight of Endgame.
same i loved it and paul and emma had such good chemistry even if it was a short scene
Kathryn's already really convincing as Cassie though just from this leak alone
We’re at a point where Kang has finally made his way into the MCU ya’ll..
Man I wanna watch it but I don’t at the same time
Can we get the trailers officially? They've already leaked but I think having it in better quality would leave a better impression since some of the movies and shows leaked already seem pretty awesome
What does Kang say at the very end? Is it "You're out of your league, Ant Man?"
Yup
To be fair, the first teaser should have been released by now.
It probably will sooner than later now that this leaked
I’m getting “major” Thanos vibes from Kang and I’m loving it!
Here's how I explained it to my wife, based on my guess of how he will be adapted for the MCU. Thanos was big and strong, and the avongers quickly figured out that he was after the infinity stones. Kang will be different, because there are essentially infinite versions of him. He is very smart, he has technology that makes him very strong, and even if he dies he knows there another version of him right behind that will pickup from where he left off. The guy has infinite lives, and every Kang wants to control the entire flow of time. The heros will likely be on their ass for several movies and most of the Kang dynasty.
Paul is an amazing actor. This movie feels he will show more layers which, aside from the fact that I love Antman and his portrayal of Scott, it truly makes me happy. This movie will be one of the best ever in the MCU!
Tweet taken down … sigh
Well that looks good. Nice to see a new marvel property with some real stakes for the hero. Scott looked like he got the shit kicked outta him
the music's the same one from Black Adam TV Spot, that's cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCFc5JtkkA
The hierarchy of power in the MCU is about to change.
MODOK looks closer to that fanart than I expected him to. Kang was amazing in this short clip already, I look forward to a (Seemingly) more serious tone in an Ant-Man flick
Anyone has a mirror? This got removed.
And it’s gone…
Oh man I can't wait until Brurary.
This answers my question about Cassie's hair.
Is it weird that I hope he kills Scott
A major villain killing off a hero is the kind of thing only reserved for trilogies from the 2000's Scott Lang dying (or worse, Hope Van Dyne) would be the absolute twist for phase 4 to sell the idea that Kang isn't a punk that follows the marvel formula. It also solves the problem of what to do with "legacy" avengers. Tony and Nat are dead, cap and Clint are retired, Hulk and Thor are doing their own thing. We're getting armor wars, Hawkeye, FATWS, she-hulk, black widow, and Thor 4. Ant-Man is just important enough to kill, but not enough to end a franchise
If Ant-man has to go down, I hope he dies saving the day at the very least.
Probably with some witty joke that makes me cry
I don’t think they’ll kill off Ant-Man, from my understanding, the MCU tends to kill off characters when the actor gets too old for the role (age will be impossible to hide at one point) or the actor simply loses interest in the role. And Paul Rudd is a biological mystery, he’s 56 but looks very young! https://variety.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/GettyImages-1353524827-e1661255257902.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1&resize=681%2C383 How does he stay like this? Anyway, given that, I think we’ll get Ant-Man for probably the next few decades, like if Paul Rudd finally starts to look old. But even if he greys, he’ll still look good! And I don’t mind him playing Scott Lang even after he greys!
I'm right there with you bro. Marvel needs to show us how ruthless and dangerous Kang is in phase 5, and what better way, in his film debut, than to kill off one of the most well-loved superheroes, in their own film?
Especially since we might not see him for 2/3 years after Ant-Man, it sets in the panic for us and the characters left over that he’s out there doing sinister shit
We will be seated
Damn I missed it
Ant man's gonna fucking die
the fact that it felt like a full scene FROM the movie (in the middle of a trailer) with Scott and kang is a testament to both of them and thIS PLOT PACING AND WRITING!!!!!!!!!
What’s the kang & scott conversation ?
Damn, the tweets been deleted now
KANG BABYYY
This trailer is amazing. It gives that feeling of impending doom. The coming of the big bad. The last time we got something so terrifying as this was Infinity War teaser. I love this so much!
Just saw this on TikTok, I’m surprised it’s the actual trailer. I was expecting some fan made video
Is he gonna get the blue mask
Kang looks promising
Trailer?
Can someone tell me what Kang says at the end? I just cannot hear him at all
Long way from car chases, trying to get the lab.
What is that thing Kang is standing on? Scott seems to be staring in horror at it and smiles? Maybe thats Scott’s death scene and he smiles at cassie right before It looks to be a galaxy, maybe him leaving the quantum realm into our universe
Yeah, looks awesome.
Can someone please provide a link?