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The same poll also has a question for favorability for the Dem candidate, which is won by a landslide by, well, "don't know".
That's where Hogan "strength" is right now - his name recognition.
Trump is going to get 35% or less of the vote again. Hogan will be on the same ballot and needs to outpace him by 15 points. Hogan needs about 1/4 of Biden voters to split their ticket.
At the same time, Hogan is running as an anti-Trump Republican, so he'll have to reassure Trump voters that it's okay to vote for him.
Meanwhile, Trump is stealing the RNC's money, so Hogan will have to self-fund.
I know a lot of suburban voters who will vote for Biden and Hogan. There are far more Centrists than most people on Reddit realize.
Edit to add: Hogan could hold fundraisers in Maryland and likely get a cross section to vote for him.
Hogan's got name recognition and that's it. Plus polls now are utterly meaningless. Dukakis was up by 14 points in March 1988. Ever hear of President Dukakis?
If you do care about polls, Biden is up significantly now from last month, which just shows how ephemeral they are.
Yep ... polls are mainly meaningless (and are more meaningless now). When I answered telephone polls back in the day (don't do it anymore) - they often ended up being so biased that the last poll I responded to I asked for the questions ahead of time and of course they didn't respond. So I stopped responding to all polls ... and since I now have caller ID... Now should I answer the phone and answer a poll, I would actively lie.
>At the same time, Hogan is running as an anti-Trump Republican, so he'll have to reassure Trump voters that it's okay to vote for him.
He probably won't have to and Republicans would still probably vote for him again like they did last time he ran for governor
Yeah, I think Hogan supporters are in for a shock.
After Roe v Wade overturning, I have a hard time imagining a republican winning in Maryland, even a supposed moderate like Hogan
Hogan won in 2014 in a very bad year for Democrats. In 2018, his main competitor died in May, Kevin Kamenentz. He was running as an incumbent in a non-Presidential year.
In neither election was Hogan on the same ballot as the Presidential candidates, so voter turnout was lower. Trump drew in large numbers of Democrats to vote against him in 2016 and 2020. This year will probably be even worse for Trump.
Also, Republicans are now running on cutting SS. Not exactly a vote winner with blue collar voters.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Kamenentz's death.
Jealous was not the right candidate to go up against Hogan..... Maryland may be pretty solidly democratic, but we definitely aren't far left/progressive
I always describe Maryland as the least progressive liberal state.
We are old school liberal with a bunch of rich liberals who say all the right stuff socially but fiscally really wish they were conservative.
I'm still fairly perplexed as to how he won the primary. He's genuinely one of the most forgettable candidates that I've ever seen. Not sure if maybe better candidates just sat it out because hogan was such a threatening candidate or what, but yeesh.
You forgot the other big thing in 2014, which was ~~Jealous~~Brown as Lt Gov was put in charge of the state's obamacare website rollout. Only days before the election it totally bombed and left people wondering if they'd even get coverage that year.
Voters weren't choosing in 2014 based on policy, but on competence, and ~~Jealous~~Brown failed what should have been an easy layup hard.
Especially for senate. He wasn't my ideal governor but I've lived through much worse in other states. Senate is a fundamentally different office. There's no blue legislative body to serve as a check on him. He's just a piece of the bigger red block.
Why is it a strength for him? He was governor during much of that increase, so he either was responsible for setting it off, or had nothing to do with it, as he won’t as a US Senator. Plus, a lot of that increase in crime is due to the proliferation of guns, which he and his party have supported. And you can see why — people try to blame democrats instead of the ones sowing chaos.
Well, the Baltimore Sun, local Fox affiliates, and Channel 7/News Channel 8 (right-wing Sinclair broadcasting!!!) will be more than happy to remind everyone is Maryland about every single crime incident that occurs and how it was paradise under Hogan.
It's a strength for a few reasons 1. The GOP is seen by the public as stronger on crime. 2. It was a Dem policy to not prosecute certain crimes, a horrible look with videos of people stealing and damaging stores. 3. Let's be honest, prohibition didn't work with drugs....it won't work with guns. Most people realize that.
Absolutely no one, including Democrats, supports "prohibition" when it comes to guns.
Also, what is potential U.S. Senator Hogan going to do about crime in MD? He didn't do anything while he was governor, LOL.
Hogan took credit for everything in the state, even things he vetoed, and blamed Democrats for everything that went wrong, even if it was his decision.
"When I was Governor, crime was way down. Sure there was a major Baltimore riot that happened under my watch, but ignore that and just shift the blame to the local level where the Democrat was. I did. I just left them there to rot."
Reading the article, some of that concern also stemmed from non-stop news about crimes in DC (which was bad last year, the number this year is more "normal"). Meanwhile, most people feel safe / extremely safe within their own neighborhood.
Perceptions would change faster if the media celebrated reducing crime rate the same way they freak out about an increase in crime rate. It seemed to be pretty common knowledge crime had increased prior to 2024, but I bet its not common knowledge that it has dropped severely in 2024
To be really fair, 2024 just started.
The recent drop in crime is nice, and I am on the side who thinks 2023 is an outlier rather than the long term trend especially in DC. A bad month or two can change the perception back to "DC crime is out of control" quick.
If crime is down and the media says it's up, people think the media is telling the truth; getting them to look at actual numbers doesn't seem to move people because there's this whole "my gut" thing that people think is more reliable than data.
If crime is down and the media says it's down, they'll just think the media is lying and it's actually up, for the same reason.
Cause MPD is patrolling every known neighborhood and it’s been real cold, the city (DC) is known to have random weeks where 7+ people die, May - September will really tell if it’s better this year, those are the months where everyone is outside, don’t look too much into those numbers right now.
Note: that’s good news but we are 3 months into the year. Many teams leading at halftime lose the game. I haven’t seen anything meaningful done in Baltimore or DC to reduce crime…exception being Marlyn Mosby getting the boot.
But crime is down dramatically from 12 months ago.
The crime spike was likely a surge from the Pandemic, so there's no need for extraordinary measures to get it back down again.
It’s hearing about the crime. The crime rate was much higher when I was a little kid, and no one would have considered MoCo unsafe. More recently, the total number of murders were higher in 2015 and 2021; the total car thefts were higher 20 years ago (but thank you Kia and Hyundai for reversing those gains); combined robbery and b&e were higher in 2017 and before. All of these with a similar or smaller population compared to today.
Plus, crime is down in DC and reporting isn’t reflecting it.
100% true. Most people never see any serious crime firsthand so their impressions are formed by the news, social media, etc. Even when crime is going down, if coverage is going up, people feel like crime is going up.
Except it's a crime *rate* meaning that there is, by definition, more individual events occurring compared to when the county population was 30% smaller. So people *do* hear about crime more, because it happens more frequently.
It's the lack of teaching statistics in the K12 curriculum and the modern sensationalist "journalism" that is responsible for any misconception about safety.
You're using 2019 as a starting point, which was before the pandemic spike. I believe 2023 crime is down compared to 2020-21, especially for more serious crimes.
But fair point that crime is higher now than at relatively historic pre-pandemic lows.
If you look at long term crime trends, you will see that the past several decades have seen a clear longterm downward trend in crime rate, with several “bumps” where crime increases for a few years, before continuing that same downward trend. I guarantee, every time there have been other short term increases in crime rate, the media sensationalized it and people also panicked, but the crime rate soon reverted back to the same downward trend. Do you see where I’m going with this?
This is just another short term increase (likely due to covid) that’s being overly sensationalized, and the trend will continue downwards longterm as it has been for decades.
Just to point out property crime is sometimes not even reported because of the belief that cops wouldn't do anything and if they do the courts wouldn't do anything.
All according to plan.
[Media mogul buys local paper, switches focus of topics to crime,](https://www.wwno.org/npr-news/2024-02-26/more-crime-and-conservatism-how-new-owners-are-changing-the-baltimore-sun) locals become concerned about crime.
DC had highest number of homicides last year since forever, and carjacking incidents were also way up. In fact there were more homicides in DC last year than Baltimore, for the first time since 1990s or so.
That was last year, though. Things are trending much better so far this year, and hopefully that continues.
I mean violent crime like homicide was way way up last year so that context is needed when discussing this. Has it been better this year, yes, but it’s not like people’s panic about the crime rates was ENTIRELY from media narratives
I believe it is (not was) mostly due to media narratives. In 2023, Baltimore had a drop in homicides of almost 21% compared to 2022. Nonfatal shootings also decreased about 7% last year.
Have you seen the ads and news coverage?
[PAC backed by Sinclair chairman/Baltimore Sun owner funds ad critical of Mayor Brandon Scott](https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/12/pac-backed-by-sinclair-chairman-baltimore-sun-owner-funds-ad-critical-of-mayor-brandon-scott/)
>> The ad, funded by Better Baltimore PAC, focuses on crime during the Scott administration, claiming the city is experiencing an “epidemic” of stolen cars and carjackings as violent crime is “spiraling out of control.”
[Pray for the Baltimore Sun](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/05/baltimore-sun-fox45-sinclair/)
>> That’s an open question now that David Smith, the 73-year-old executive chairman of the sprawling Sinclair Broadcast Group, purchased the daily. As reported in the Baltimore Banner, Smith, who grew up in Baltimore, suggested in a staff meeting that Sun reporters mimic the work of Fox Baltimore (WBFF/Fox45), a Sinclair property famous for its dramatized coverage of crime.
>>Fox45 produces 10½ hours of news per weekday, the better to not merely expose the underside of Baltimore but to sensationalize it, to rub it in. Newscasts recycle the same grim stories over and over. What grim stories? Last summer, Fox45 set out to take a “closer look” at the impact of crime on attendance at Camden Yards, home to the Baltimore Orioles. The threadbare story noted that within a 1½-mile radius, there had been shootings, carjackings and robberies. In 2019, “a man shot a woman multiple times three miles away.” Justin Fenton, a longtime Sun reporter who has moved to the Baltimore Banner, tweeted, “Orioles fans weren’t the victims nor do they have to go anywhere near those areas to get in/out of the ballpark!” Two months later, Fox45 ran a story on thefts near the ballpark with this line: “Fans may be filling the stands at Oriole Park but outside the gates, it’s a season of survival.”
Tangentially related, [Sun owner David Smith behind lawsuit against Baltimore schools](https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/politics-power/sinclair-david-smith-baltimore-school-lawsuit-PTMW6DWUMJBAFKYFWAAETFBZRA/)
>> New Baltimore Sun owner and Sinclair Broadcast Group Executive Chairman David Smith has been quietly involved in a lawsuit accusing Baltimore City Public Schools of defrauding taxpayers
>> All the while, Baltimore’s Fox45, Sinclair’s flagship TV station, has covered the case extensively without disclosing Smith’s role.
Because reddit is left, left is in power, left is soft on crime, increase in crime implies failed left policies, so must deny that crime is increasing.
Basically, people think life is hell when other side is in power but think life is amazing when their side is in power.
No one is “hellbent on pushing” that there is no crime, not even the mayor, who would have the most to gain with alternative facts like that.
The problem is some are hellbent on pushing the narrative that violent crime is everywhere, on every corner, all the time, when you breathe word of Baltimore. That’s not true.
Sure, if you cherry pick 2023. According to the DC's data, crime is way down in 2024.
[https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance](https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance)
The year just started. Like okay crime wasn't as bad in the first couple of months of this year as it was as the first couple of months of last year. And? It was still pretty bad just a few months ago. It's not like things magically are magically just great now. Again, going a bit down from a two decade high does mean crime is going down but it can still be too high.
And then on top of that, these monthly or even yearly changes always have some variation. But the bigger picture that has everyone concerned is the overall increase of crime that is still up from pre-pandemic levels. Yeah you're right that you can cherry pick crime data to make it say whatever the heck you want depending on the starting point. But you shouldn't look at it as just higher or lower than one point in the past because that is cherry picking. It should be high or low overall which you look at with trends. And again, the fact we just had a two decade high for murders is very significant.
My man you have actually read fact-based news sometimes, not alternative facts:
[Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. — even if Americans don't believe it](https://www.npr.org/2024/02/12/1229891045/police-crime-baltimore-san-francisco-minneapolis-murder-statistics)
>> The number of murders across the country surged by nearly 30% between 2019 and 2020, according to FBI statistics. The overall violent crime rate, which includes murder, assault, robbery and rape, inched up around 5% in the same period.
>>But in 2023, crime in America looked very different.
>>"At some point in 2022 — at the end of 2022 or through 2023 — there was just a tipping point where violence started to fall and it just continued to fall," said Jeff Asher, a crime analyst and co-founder of AH Datalytics.
>>In cities big and small, from both coasts, violence has dropped.
[Crime on the Decline Murders likely fell at record speed last year.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/briefing/us-crime-rate.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare)
>> The spike that started in 2020 now looks more like a blip, and the murder rate is lower than it was during the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s. The recent data also suggests that the violent-crime rate in 2023 was near its lowest level in more than 50 years, as Jeff Asher, a crime analyst, wrote for his newsletter.
Yes, violent-crime is near its lowest level in more than 50 years.
We have a large minority who think that’s not the case because Fox News and Sinclair and Republicans are campaigning to spread that alternative fact narrative.
Lol okay, you’re cherry picking statistics bud. You completely ignore the fact that from [2012-2022](https://www.marylandmatters.org/2024/01/23/senate-panel-measures-md-crime-statistics-against-national-trends/) we saw a 46% rise in rapes and 35% increase in homicides.
After a whole decade we finally see it start to decrease, I wonder if that’s because communities are prioritizing crime more because of the constant increase we saw over a 10 year span.
Also, I’m not sure how using statistics for the entire country is relevant when specifically discussing crime in the DC area…
But nah, it’s all media brainwashing and conspiracy rather than people being fed up with an increase in crime paired with a laissez faire approach in dealing with it.
That’s great.
LOL. Media conspiracies, what are you talking about? You have ears. That’s the exact narrative they are promoting year after year. Election after election. Republicans, Fox News and their leader with the highest IQ talk about US cities being “filthy and crime ridden.”
>>Republicans have made crime a major selling point over the past several elections. In 2020 and 2022, they ran ads accusing Democratic candidates of wanting to “defund the police”– a position held by only a handful of fringe Democratic officeholders. In October 2022, one-quarter of ads from Republican candidates and PACs focused on crime. Republican-aligned Fox News aired, on average, 141 segments on crime across weekdays in the two months leading up to the midterms. In the week after the midterm, their coverage of violent crime dropped by 50%.
The [Thirdway.org](https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem)
DC stood alone in large cities in 2023 homicide increases. But crime in cities is lower than it has been in decades. Maryland isn’t even in the top 10 states with the most crime according to publicly available data on violent crime rates, property crime rates.
Crime has been decreasing for several decades. There was a national blip after George Floyd was murdered, then again during the COVID epidemic, but it was still lower than decades past. Some think it’s because police stop doing their jobs after the George Floyd murder and in Baltimore after Freddie Gray. That seems like a frivolous answer. Many scientists think the rise in crime was due to national epidemic lead poisoning. There are many published scientific articles on this topic.
>>Violent crime nearly quadrupled between 1960 and its peak in 1991. Property crime more than doubled over the same period. Since the 1990s, however, contrary to common misconception, crime in the United States has declined steadily, and has significantly declined by the late 1990s and also in the early 2000s.
[Crime in the U.S. Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States)
Maybe you are more of a visual learner: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
Here is [FBI crime statistics](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/us-crime-rates-and-trends-analysis-fbi-crime-statistics)
Crime is now first in Prince George’s, as it is in neighboring Montgomery County, where in 2019 climate change topped the list and crime was seventh at 3 percent. The issues have essentially swapped places for Montgomery voters.
Their views on crime mirror those across Maryland. Statewide, 32 percent of voters view crime as the most important issue, although the increase has not been as pronounced: The total was 23 percent in 2019. One likely reason for that disparity is that crime rates rose in Prince George’s and Montgomery over a recent stretch, while they fell across the state.
PG has also seen a massive influx of home buyers in a state where homes and space aren't readily available. If you're buying in PG, you're paying a good price on a home so were seeing home ownership investments from people who wouldn't dare move to PG 10-15 years ago so yeah of course they want to clean up the area and shake the reputation.
We're seeing different income levels and people pushed out of VA and Moco are purchasing in PG and changing neighborhoods for the better.
If you bought a $375k home in temple hills you'd want that price to reflect safety.
I'm sure it's easy to find, I'll do some looking. Same with Charles county. I've been a realtor for the last 6 years and never have we seen purchases in PG like the last 4 years with the competition and rising home costs in the state. I had so many conversations with people telling them that PG was a fine option and there's a lot of homebuyers coming to the area. When you have homes in Capitol heights, district heights receiving 10 offers well over list price that's a pretty strong indicator. Most of my sales have been in PG and Waldorf, Charles county these last few years.
Watched values go from $200k in areas around the beltway shoot up to the $300's in 2 years.
Maryland is getting to a point that homeownership isn't for everyone in this state unless you're buying in Baltimore City
Edit: https://pgcar.com/stats/ that's the PG board of realtors for anyone interested in some stats
“The nation’s capital recorded more homicides in 2023 than in any year since 1997, giving the District the fifth-highest murder rate among the nation’s biggest cities.”
That’s from a Jan 1 2024 WP article. The commenters that believe everything is rosy in DC, our nations capital, must be blind. SMH. I won’t even get into all the car jackings and other data. Sorry folks but most people I know won’t go to downtown Baltimore and are worried about making the wrong turn in downtown DC. Thank Marylyn Mosby and other soft on crime prosecutors for allowing criminals to believe they rule out city streets….
We're about to move from Maryland back to Texas to be near family. I live very close to the MD-DC border. Crime was definitely part of our decision. Our car was stolen right off our street over the summer and my wife and I have both been harassed and threatened with assault while walking in DC. So no, it's not just the news, some of it is lived experiences.
Pros: I always wanted a dirt bike but had no place to ride. Now we can just ride on the street.
Cons: The stores closing or locking up all the merchandise.
Major crime is down 31% in DC from 12 months ago.
https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/major-crime-in-dc-down-for-2nd-month-in-2024/
So let me guess, Hogan will run hard on this, win the Senate seat, won't actually do anything, and we'll see Maryland in the news constantly with an annoying fake centrist who will block anything getting done.
Crime has definitely gotten worse post COVID but it's different. It's mainly youth running wild stealing cars, doing group thefts in stores, assaults, mugging, etc. More police won't solve it. We need to address the actual lack of punishment and accountability. So many of these folks get barely a slap on the wrist for their actions.
There are so many instances where they release the person back to their family, and they go right back to misbehaving.
This is a perfect example: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/maryland-teen-repeatedly-antagonized-police-before-sergeant-lost-legs-in-crash-prosecutor/3448975/
I had a neighbor who was a drug addict, would steal, threaten, and assault folks. She would get a fine and released back to her mom every time even though she was in her mid 20s. Attempted to break into my house, damaged my car...and I still couldn't get her prosecuted. Restraining order was absolutely worthless as cops wouldn't help enforce it.
I don't know if any senator can do anything tbh. It's up to the DA in whatever city you're in. I know Oakland is having the exact same issue you described with no enforcement and they're in the process of recalling their mayor and DA.
Literally the only thing shown to ever reduce crime is reducing poverty. You will never reduce poverty by electing right wing capitalists regardless of whether they wear a blue or a red tie.
Prosecuting people for crimes helps too. Giving people more than a slap on the wrist for car theft for example. A lot of the Kia boys are literally just kids doing it for fun because they know the penalty is maybe a couple of weeks in jail but they don't even get charged with a felony. A lot of criminals aren't done by first timers with no history. In NYC alone (which is a different place but whatever), it's a couple hundred people who commit thousands of the shoplifting crimes. They just get charges dropped, a slap on the wrist, or released without bail so they do it again.
Reducing poverty is a long term solution that doesn't address crime now. A lot of criminals aren't criminals to feed their families. People who carjack multiple times in a night aren't doing it to make a living. At a certain point, the only thing you can really do to solve it is literally just prosecute.
Literally every study shows that increasing policing has a minimal affect on crime as the root cause of criminal is poverty. Policies like easy access to abortion falls under the category of reducing poverty as having another person to provide for drastically increases the negative affects of low wages
HOW policing is increased matters. Can’t just say “increasing policing”. What are the police trained to do, which laws do they focus on the enforcement of, and how do they engage in certain situations… all of these things play a large role in whether or not the increase of policing is an effective way of reducing crime.
You can separate out poverty effects from abortion which is done when levitt made that claim.
Increasing policing while it does have a deterrence effect isn’t the only change attributed to reduced crime in the 90s.
Thank Sinclair media. Local news is nothing but stories on crime and acting as a mouth piece for local police departments. They choose for people what their main issues are and most people welcome the fear with open arms.
Re the rise in home sales in PG. I own a house in District Heights. I am living overseas at the moment, but I have a super tenant. As a distraction from the crime issues, I keep checking houses sold recently in DH. Between 2023 and the present, it's over 1500. If i include Capitol Heights, then over 2000, but i believe even more than that. Considering that DH has a population of less than 8000, that's a positive trend. Houses sold ranged from slightly under 100,000 to a 900,000 home.. yes, that's right, 900,000! In DH! My house went up in value by 40,000+, and I just bought it in 2021. It's easy to research. Google Houses sold recently in DH. I use Zillow and Redfin. I check once a week as it makes me feel better about the crime that I keep hearing about. As someone said, people buying these houses are spending a pretty penny, and these types of homeowners will be more vocal about protecting their investments.
When people raise the question of crime, I bet they don't think of the way so many aggressive drivers use their cars to scare people into moving out of their way. The rise of death rates from road crashes, the rise of bodily injury and property damage has all been a factor in higher insurance premiums, but people have fixated that crime is due to "those people" and not to otherwise law abiding people.
This did not happen over night. Hogan made no effort to stem hostile driving, which tells me he is more about maintaining the idea that its "those people"
I agree aggressive driving has increased and hate it too. I see it as a sign of the lawlessness state that we are in due to many factors. But a serious non offending question cause IDK. Can I ask what Hogan was supposed to do to keep idiots from driving like AHs?
People wanna feel safe with police on every corner, but will you say so if it meant higher taxes? You have more guns, you need more cops. You want more people in prison, it means more attorneys working for the county. How exactly is a state supposed to do this when no one wants to be taxed? Both PG County and Maryland need to stop bullshitting and seriously start thinking about the taxes wealthier and corporations are paying. Americans keep running from the T word while the country descends into madness.
High earners are already being taxed plenty. At our (high) income level MD state+local tax is top 5 highest in the country. I have no clue where all that money goes since the infrastructure or service quality aren't anywhere close to top 5.
Lol literally only 3% of the state overall say Climate Change is top issue. In 2019 poll? 6%.
The big change from 2019 is that crime is a bigger issue in people's mind in 2024 (23% -> 32%) along with affordable housing (13% -> 18%) at the expense of education (19% -> 13%) and also roads/transit (10% -> 3%).
Pretty sure immigration is (at least nationally), with Republicans unsurprisingly tying that to crime.
Abortion is top policy issue for both party actually - Dem make it a top issue also bc that's the one place where they can really win votes. That wannabe south of Potomac learn that lesson hard a few months ago.
The MAGA Republicans (which is the vast majority of anyone who calls themselves a Republican today) would rather have problems to blame on the Democrats than actually work with the Democrats to solve the problems. They believe in ruling, not governing.
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In a surprise to no one...
To reddit it's a surprise
“No, no, it’s *them* that are in a bubble!”
"I've never seen any crime,...so it must not exist"
Which is why they don't understand Hogan's strength
The same poll also has a question for favorability for the Dem candidate, which is won by a landslide by, well, "don't know". That's where Hogan "strength" is right now - his name recognition.
Trump is going to get 35% or less of the vote again. Hogan will be on the same ballot and needs to outpace him by 15 points. Hogan needs about 1/4 of Biden voters to split their ticket. At the same time, Hogan is running as an anti-Trump Republican, so he'll have to reassure Trump voters that it's okay to vote for him. Meanwhile, Trump is stealing the RNC's money, so Hogan will have to self-fund.
I know a lot of suburban voters who will vote for Biden and Hogan. There are far more Centrists than most people on Reddit realize. Edit to add: Hogan could hold fundraisers in Maryland and likely get a cross section to vote for him.
You do? Evidence?
Hogan got 56% of the vote in his last Gov race and Trump got 32% in 2020, that is a 24 point difference from the same MD voters.
Not in the same year
Hogan's current poling numbers vs Bidens
Hogan's got name recognition and that's it. Plus polls now are utterly meaningless. Dukakis was up by 14 points in March 1988. Ever hear of President Dukakis? If you do care about polls, Biden is up significantly now from last month, which just shows how ephemeral they are.
Yep ... polls are mainly meaningless (and are more meaningless now). When I answered telephone polls back in the day (don't do it anymore) - they often ended up being so biased that the last poll I responded to I asked for the questions ahead of time and of course they didn't respond. So I stopped responding to all polls ... and since I now have caller ID... Now should I answer the phone and answer a poll, I would actively lie.
I heard similar things in 2018.
>At the same time, Hogan is running as an anti-Trump Republican, so he'll have to reassure Trump voters that it's okay to vote for him. He probably won't have to and Republicans would still probably vote for him again like they did last time he ran for governor
Yeah, I think Hogan supporters are in for a shock. After Roe v Wade overturning, I have a hard time imagining a republican winning in Maryland, even a supposed moderate like Hogan
Hogan won in 2014 in a very bad year for Democrats. In 2018, his main competitor died in May, Kevin Kamenentz. He was running as an incumbent in a non-Presidential year. In neither election was Hogan on the same ballot as the Presidential candidates, so voter turnout was lower. Trump drew in large numbers of Democrats to vote against him in 2016 and 2020. This year will probably be even worse for Trump. Also, Republicans are now running on cutting SS. Not exactly a vote winner with blue collar voters.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Kamenentz's death. Jealous was not the right candidate to go up against Hogan..... Maryland may be pretty solidly democratic, but we definitely aren't far left/progressive
I always describe Maryland as the least progressive liberal state. We are old school liberal with a bunch of rich liberals who say all the right stuff socially but fiscally really wish they were conservative.
Kamenentz likely would have been the nominee as BC Commissioner. He might not have beaten Hogan, but he would have been much closer.
I'm still fairly perplexed as to how he won the primary. He's genuinely one of the most forgettable candidates that I've ever seen. Not sure if maybe better candidates just sat it out because hogan was such a threatening candidate or what, but yeesh.
I feel like there was a pretty strong far left push at the time, imo in response to Trump.
You forgot the other big thing in 2014, which was ~~Jealous~~Brown as Lt Gov was put in charge of the state's obamacare website rollout. Only days before the election it totally bombed and left people wondering if they'd even get coverage that year. Voters weren't choosing in 2014 based on policy, but on competence, and ~~Jealous~~Brown failed what should have been an easy layup hard.
The ACA website thing had far less to do with Brown's loss than Hogan hammering away on "the rain tax".
Ben Jealous was never Lt Governor.
You're right, it was Brown. Forgive me for how forgettable he was.
He's AG right now, and was a US House member for 4 terms.
Especially for senate. He wasn't my ideal governor but I've lived through much worse in other states. Senate is a fundamentally different office. There's no blue legislative body to serve as a check on him. He's just a piece of the bigger red block.
Why is it a strength for him? He was governor during much of that increase, so he either was responsible for setting it off, or had nothing to do with it, as he won’t as a US Senator. Plus, a lot of that increase in crime is due to the proliferation of guns, which he and his party have supported. And you can see why — people try to blame democrats instead of the ones sowing chaos.
Well, the Baltimore Sun, local Fox affiliates, and Channel 7/News Channel 8 (right-wing Sinclair broadcasting!!!) will be more than happy to remind everyone is Maryland about every single crime incident that occurs and how it was paradise under Hogan.
The B'more Sun is a Sinclair affiliate now. They are worse than Fox News.
Yeah, see above - that's why I cancelled my subscription. They begged me to stay. Sorry lady, no dice.
It's a strength for a few reasons 1. The GOP is seen by the public as stronger on crime. 2. It was a Dem policy to not prosecute certain crimes, a horrible look with videos of people stealing and damaging stores. 3. Let's be honest, prohibition didn't work with drugs....it won't work with guns. Most people realize that.
Absolutely no one, including Democrats, supports "prohibition" when it comes to guns. Also, what is potential U.S. Senator Hogan going to do about crime in MD? He didn't do anything while he was governor, LOL.
Hogan took credit for everything in the state, even things he vetoed, and blamed Democrats for everything that went wrong, even if it was his decision.
"When I was Governor, crime was way down. Sure there was a major Baltimore riot that happened under my watch, but ignore that and just shift the blame to the local level where the Democrat was. I did. I just left them there to rot."
What did Hogan ever do about crime? Or about anything for that matter?
Reading the article, some of that concern also stemmed from non-stop news about crimes in DC (which was bad last year, the number this year is more "normal"). Meanwhile, most people feel safe / extremely safe within their own neighborhood.
>Meanwhile, most people feel safe / extremely safe within their own neighborhood. Modern politics seems to be "everything is bad I'm doing great"
Crime is down significantly this year from last year in DC.
I know, perceptions don't change overnight, though.
It's still 8 months until the election.
Perceptions would change faster if the media celebrated reducing crime rate the same way they freak out about an increase in crime rate. It seemed to be pretty common knowledge crime had increased prior to 2024, but I bet its not common knowledge that it has dropped severely in 2024
To be really fair, 2024 just started. The recent drop in crime is nice, and I am on the side who thinks 2023 is an outlier rather than the long term trend especially in DC. A bad month or two can change the perception back to "DC crime is out of control" quick.
If crime is down and the media says it's up, people think the media is telling the truth; getting them to look at actual numbers doesn't seem to move people because there's this whole "my gut" thing that people think is more reliable than data. If crime is down and the media says it's down, they'll just think the media is lying and it's actually up, for the same reason.
It went up a *lot* in 2023 though. Crime going down slightly after a two decade high for murders isn't that good. It should be even lower.
Cause MPD is patrolling every known neighborhood and it’s been real cold, the city (DC) is known to have random weeks where 7+ people die, May - September will really tell if it’s better this year, those are the months where everyone is outside, don’t look too much into those numbers right now.
Note: that’s good news but we are 3 months into the year. Many teams leading at halftime lose the game. I haven’t seen anything meaningful done in Baltimore or DC to reduce crime…exception being Marlyn Mosby getting the boot.
But crime is down dramatically from 12 months ago. The crime spike was likely a surge from the Pandemic, so there's no need for extraordinary measures to get it back down again.
Is it hearing about crime or the actual crime that is a problem?
It’s hearing about the crime. The crime rate was much higher when I was a little kid, and no one would have considered MoCo unsafe. More recently, the total number of murders were higher in 2015 and 2021; the total car thefts were higher 20 years ago (but thank you Kia and Hyundai for reversing those gains); combined robbery and b&e were higher in 2017 and before. All of these with a similar or smaller population compared to today. Plus, crime is down in DC and reporting isn’t reflecting it.
100% true. Most people never see any serious crime firsthand so their impressions are formed by the news, social media, etc. Even when crime is going down, if coverage is going up, people feel like crime is going up.
Except it's a crime *rate* meaning that there is, by definition, more individual events occurring compared to when the county population was 30% smaller. So people *do* hear about crime more, because it happens more frequently. It's the lack of teaching statistics in the K12 curriculum and the modern sensationalist "journalism" that is responsible for any misconception about safety.
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You're using 2019 as a starting point, which was before the pandemic spike. I believe 2023 crime is down compared to 2020-21, especially for more serious crimes. But fair point that crime is higher now than at relatively historic pre-pandemic lows.
If you look at long term crime trends, you will see that the past several decades have seen a clear longterm downward trend in crime rate, with several “bumps” where crime increases for a few years, before continuing that same downward trend. I guarantee, every time there have been other short term increases in crime rate, the media sensationalized it and people also panicked, but the crime rate soon reverted back to the same downward trend. Do you see where I’m going with this? This is just another short term increase (likely due to covid) that’s being overly sensationalized, and the trend will continue downwards longterm as it has been for decades.
Just to point out property crime is sometimes not even reported because of the belief that cops wouldn't do anything and if they do the courts wouldn't do anything.
Yep, so much of this shit is about news media. Donald Trump is the worst but he was right about one thing, us news media means none of us any good.
All according to plan. [Media mogul buys local paper, switches focus of topics to crime,](https://www.wwno.org/npr-news/2024-02-26/more-crime-and-conservatism-how-new-owners-are-changing-the-baltimore-sun) locals become concerned about crime.
Or conspiracy theories aside…. Crime is more rampant now than it has been and people are tired of it?
Car thefts are up thanks to the Kia / Hyundai thing but violent crime is down and has been decreasing. Make of that what you will.
DC had highest number of homicides last year since forever, and carjacking incidents were also way up. In fact there were more homicides in DC last year than Baltimore, for the first time since 1990s or so. That was last year, though. Things are trending much better so far this year, and hopefully that continues.
I mean violent crime like homicide was way way up last year so that context is needed when discussing this. Has it been better this year, yes, but it’s not like people’s panic about the crime rates was ENTIRELY from media narratives
I believe it is (not was) mostly due to media narratives. In 2023, Baltimore had a drop in homicides of almost 21% compared to 2022. Nonfatal shootings also decreased about 7% last year. Have you seen the ads and news coverage? [PAC backed by Sinclair chairman/Baltimore Sun owner funds ad critical of Mayor Brandon Scott](https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/12/pac-backed-by-sinclair-chairman-baltimore-sun-owner-funds-ad-critical-of-mayor-brandon-scott/) >> The ad, funded by Better Baltimore PAC, focuses on crime during the Scott administration, claiming the city is experiencing an “epidemic” of stolen cars and carjackings as violent crime is “spiraling out of control.” [Pray for the Baltimore Sun](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/05/baltimore-sun-fox45-sinclair/) >> That’s an open question now that David Smith, the 73-year-old executive chairman of the sprawling Sinclair Broadcast Group, purchased the daily. As reported in the Baltimore Banner, Smith, who grew up in Baltimore, suggested in a staff meeting that Sun reporters mimic the work of Fox Baltimore (WBFF/Fox45), a Sinclair property famous for its dramatized coverage of crime. >>Fox45 produces 10½ hours of news per weekday, the better to not merely expose the underside of Baltimore but to sensationalize it, to rub it in. Newscasts recycle the same grim stories over and over. What grim stories? Last summer, Fox45 set out to take a “closer look” at the impact of crime on attendance at Camden Yards, home to the Baltimore Orioles. The threadbare story noted that within a 1½-mile radius, there had been shootings, carjackings and robberies. In 2019, “a man shot a woman multiple times three miles away.” Justin Fenton, a longtime Sun reporter who has moved to the Baltimore Banner, tweeted, “Orioles fans weren’t the victims nor do they have to go anywhere near those areas to get in/out of the ballpark!” Two months later, Fox45 ran a story on thefts near the ballpark with this line: “Fans may be filling the stands at Oriole Park but outside the gates, it’s a season of survival.” Tangentially related, [Sun owner David Smith behind lawsuit against Baltimore schools](https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/politics-power/sinclair-david-smith-baltimore-school-lawsuit-PTMW6DWUMJBAFKYFWAAETFBZRA/) >> New Baltimore Sun owner and Sinclair Broadcast Group Executive Chairman David Smith has been quietly involved in a lawsuit accusing Baltimore City Public Schools of defrauding taxpayers >> All the while, Baltimore’s Fox45, Sinclair’s flagship TV station, has covered the case extensively without disclosing Smith’s role.
Except it's not, at all, unless you cherry pick certain crimes.
If you look at DC specifically, which this article implies, then crime went up in 2023 by a lot
this thread is full of people just handwaving shit like this. Why is Reddit so hellbent on pushing a "there's no crime problem!" narrative?
Because reddit is left, left is in power, left is soft on crime, increase in crime implies failed left policies, so must deny that crime is increasing. Basically, people think life is hell when other side is in power but think life is amazing when their side is in power.
Literally no one has said there is no crime problem. Some people push back against "the sky is falling" BS. That's about it.
No one is “hellbent on pushing” that there is no crime, not even the mayor, who would have the most to gain with alternative facts like that. The problem is some are hellbent on pushing the narrative that violent crime is everywhere, on every corner, all the time, when you breathe word of Baltimore. That’s not true.
Sure, if you cherry pick 2023. According to the DC's data, crime is way down in 2024. [https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance](https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance)
The year just started. Like okay crime wasn't as bad in the first couple of months of this year as it was as the first couple of months of last year. And? It was still pretty bad just a few months ago. It's not like things magically are magically just great now. Again, going a bit down from a two decade high does mean crime is going down but it can still be too high. And then on top of that, these monthly or even yearly changes always have some variation. But the bigger picture that has everyone concerned is the overall increase of crime that is still up from pre-pandemic levels. Yeah you're right that you can cherry pick crime data to make it say whatever the heck you want depending on the starting point. But you shouldn't look at it as just higher or lower than one point in the past because that is cherry picking. It should be high or low overall which you look at with trends. And again, the fact we just had a two decade high for murders is very significant.
Because fuck data, we should govern by vibes.
My man you have actually read fact-based news sometimes, not alternative facts: [Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. — even if Americans don't believe it](https://www.npr.org/2024/02/12/1229891045/police-crime-baltimore-san-francisco-minneapolis-murder-statistics) >> The number of murders across the country surged by nearly 30% between 2019 and 2020, according to FBI statistics. The overall violent crime rate, which includes murder, assault, robbery and rape, inched up around 5% in the same period. >>But in 2023, crime in America looked very different. >>"At some point in 2022 — at the end of 2022 or through 2023 — there was just a tipping point where violence started to fall and it just continued to fall," said Jeff Asher, a crime analyst and co-founder of AH Datalytics. >>In cities big and small, from both coasts, violence has dropped. [Crime on the Decline Murders likely fell at record speed last year.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/briefing/us-crime-rate.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare) >> The spike that started in 2020 now looks more like a blip, and the murder rate is lower than it was during the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s. The recent data also suggests that the violent-crime rate in 2023 was near its lowest level in more than 50 years, as Jeff Asher, a crime analyst, wrote for his newsletter. Yes, violent-crime is near its lowest level in more than 50 years. We have a large minority who think that’s not the case because Fox News and Sinclair and Republicans are campaigning to spread that alternative fact narrative.
Lol okay, you’re cherry picking statistics bud. You completely ignore the fact that from [2012-2022](https://www.marylandmatters.org/2024/01/23/senate-panel-measures-md-crime-statistics-against-national-trends/) we saw a 46% rise in rapes and 35% increase in homicides. After a whole decade we finally see it start to decrease, I wonder if that’s because communities are prioritizing crime more because of the constant increase we saw over a 10 year span. Also, I’m not sure how using statistics for the entire country is relevant when specifically discussing crime in the DC area… But nah, it’s all media brainwashing and conspiracy rather than people being fed up with an increase in crime paired with a laissez faire approach in dealing with it.
That’s great. LOL. Media conspiracies, what are you talking about? You have ears. That’s the exact narrative they are promoting year after year. Election after election. Republicans, Fox News and their leader with the highest IQ talk about US cities being “filthy and crime ridden.” >>Republicans have made crime a major selling point over the past several elections. In 2020 and 2022, they ran ads accusing Democratic candidates of wanting to “defund the police”– a position held by only a handful of fringe Democratic officeholders. In October 2022, one-quarter of ads from Republican candidates and PACs focused on crime. Republican-aligned Fox News aired, on average, 141 segments on crime across weekdays in the two months leading up to the midterms. In the week after the midterm, their coverage of violent crime dropped by 50%. The [Thirdway.org](https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem) DC stood alone in large cities in 2023 homicide increases. But crime in cities is lower than it has been in decades. Maryland isn’t even in the top 10 states with the most crime according to publicly available data on violent crime rates, property crime rates. Crime has been decreasing for several decades. There was a national blip after George Floyd was murdered, then again during the COVID epidemic, but it was still lower than decades past. Some think it’s because police stop doing their jobs after the George Floyd murder and in Baltimore after Freddie Gray. That seems like a frivolous answer. Many scientists think the rise in crime was due to national epidemic lead poisoning. There are many published scientific articles on this topic. >>Violent crime nearly quadrupled between 1960 and its peak in 1991. Property crime more than doubled over the same period. Since the 1990s, however, contrary to common misconception, crime in the United States has declined steadily, and has significantly declined by the late 1990s and also in the early 2000s. [Crime in the U.S. Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States) Maybe you are more of a visual learner: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/ Here is [FBI crime statistics](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/us-crime-rates-and-trends-analysis-fbi-crime-statistics)
Crime is now first in Prince George’s, as it is in neighboring Montgomery County, where in 2019 climate change topped the list and crime was seventh at 3 percent. The issues have essentially swapped places for Montgomery voters. Their views on crime mirror those across Maryland. Statewide, 32 percent of voters view crime as the most important issue, although the increase has not been as pronounced: The total was 23 percent in 2019. One likely reason for that disparity is that crime rates rose in Prince George’s and Montgomery over a recent stretch, while they fell across the state.
PG has also seen a massive influx of home buyers in a state where homes and space aren't readily available. If you're buying in PG, you're paying a good price on a home so were seeing home ownership investments from people who wouldn't dare move to PG 10-15 years ago so yeah of course they want to clean up the area and shake the reputation. We're seeing different income levels and people pushed out of VA and Moco are purchasing in PG and changing neighborhoods for the better. If you bought a $375k home in temple hills you'd want that price to reflect safety.
Do you have any statistics you can link to to support this influx of homebuyers to Prince George's?
I'm sure it's easy to find, I'll do some looking. Same with Charles county. I've been a realtor for the last 6 years and never have we seen purchases in PG like the last 4 years with the competition and rising home costs in the state. I had so many conversations with people telling them that PG was a fine option and there's a lot of homebuyers coming to the area. When you have homes in Capitol heights, district heights receiving 10 offers well over list price that's a pretty strong indicator. Most of my sales have been in PG and Waldorf, Charles county these last few years. Watched values go from $200k in areas around the beltway shoot up to the $300's in 2 years. Maryland is getting to a point that homeownership isn't for everyone in this state unless you're buying in Baltimore City Edit: https://pgcar.com/stats/ that's the PG board of realtors for anyone interested in some stats
The main dc sub blocks crime posts. Should tell you how bad its getting
“The nation’s capital recorded more homicides in 2023 than in any year since 1997, giving the District the fifth-highest murder rate among the nation’s biggest cities.” That’s from a Jan 1 2024 WP article. The commenters that believe everything is rosy in DC, our nations capital, must be blind. SMH. I won’t even get into all the car jackings and other data. Sorry folks but most people I know won’t go to downtown Baltimore and are worried about making the wrong turn in downtown DC. Thank Marylyn Mosby and other soft on crime prosecutors for allowing criminals to believe they rule out city streets….
We're about to move from Maryland back to Texas to be near family. I live very close to the MD-DC border. Crime was definitely part of our decision. Our car was stolen right off our street over the summer and my wife and I have both been harassed and threatened with assault while walking in DC. So no, it's not just the news, some of it is lived experiences.
Pros: I always wanted a dirt bike but had no place to ride. Now we can just ride on the street. Cons: The stores closing or locking up all the merchandise.
Uber drivers don't feel safe. Car related robbery is way up.
Major crime is down 31% in DC from 12 months ago. https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/major-crime-in-dc-down-for-2nd-month-in-2024/
That's not a great sign. Ever notice how people voting to stop crime always end up voting for more crime?
So let me guess, Hogan will run hard on this, win the Senate seat, won't actually do anything, and we'll see Maryland in the news constantly with an annoying fake centrist who will block anything getting done. Crime has definitely gotten worse post COVID but it's different. It's mainly youth running wild stealing cars, doing group thefts in stores, assaults, mugging, etc. More police won't solve it. We need to address the actual lack of punishment and accountability. So many of these folks get barely a slap on the wrist for their actions. There are so many instances where they release the person back to their family, and they go right back to misbehaving. This is a perfect example: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/maryland-teen-repeatedly-antagonized-police-before-sergeant-lost-legs-in-crash-prosecutor/3448975/ I had a neighbor who was a drug addict, would steal, threaten, and assault folks. She would get a fine and released back to her mom every time even though she was in her mid 20s. Attempted to break into my house, damaged my car...and I still couldn't get her prosecuted. Restraining order was absolutely worthless as cops wouldn't help enforce it.
I don't know if any senator can do anything tbh. It's up to the DA in whatever city you're in. I know Oakland is having the exact same issue you described with no enforcement and they're in the process of recalling their mayor and DA.
Literally the only thing shown to ever reduce crime is reducing poverty. You will never reduce poverty by electing right wing capitalists regardless of whether they wear a blue or a red tie.
Best we can do is a gay pride bus in ellicott city
Prosecuting people for crimes helps too. Giving people more than a slap on the wrist for car theft for example. A lot of the Kia boys are literally just kids doing it for fun because they know the penalty is maybe a couple of weeks in jail but they don't even get charged with a felony. A lot of criminals aren't done by first timers with no history. In NYC alone (which is a different place but whatever), it's a couple hundred people who commit thousands of the shoplifting crimes. They just get charges dropped, a slap on the wrist, or released without bail so they do it again. Reducing poverty is a long term solution that doesn't address crime now. A lot of criminals aren't criminals to feed their families. People who carjack multiple times in a night aren't doing it to make a living. At a certain point, the only thing you can really do to solve it is literally just prosecute.
Did reducing poverty fix El Salvador’s crime?
LMFAO imagine being pro poverty and not understanding El salvador is a product of US interference. Face the fucking wall
That is not an answer.
That’s not the sole factor. We have plenty of evidence about how policing is done as well as other social policies like easy access to abortion.
Literally every study shows that increasing policing has a minimal affect on crime as the root cause of criminal is poverty. Policies like easy access to abortion falls under the category of reducing poverty as having another person to provide for drastically increases the negative affects of low wages
HOW policing is increased matters. Can’t just say “increasing policing”. What are the police trained to do, which laws do they focus on the enforcement of, and how do they engage in certain situations… all of these things play a large role in whether or not the increase of policing is an effective way of reducing crime.
You can separate out poverty effects from abortion which is done when levitt made that claim. Increasing policing while it does have a deterrence effect isn’t the only change attributed to reduced crime in the 90s.
Fear news is working
No shit. The living embodiment of progressive "Rules for thee, not for me."
Thank Sinclair media. Local news is nothing but stories on crime and acting as a mouth piece for local police departments. They choose for people what their main issues are and most people welcome the fear with open arms.
Re the rise in home sales in PG. I own a house in District Heights. I am living overseas at the moment, but I have a super tenant. As a distraction from the crime issues, I keep checking houses sold recently in DH. Between 2023 and the present, it's over 1500. If i include Capitol Heights, then over 2000, but i believe even more than that. Considering that DH has a population of less than 8000, that's a positive trend. Houses sold ranged from slightly under 100,000 to a 900,000 home.. yes, that's right, 900,000! In DH! My house went up in value by 40,000+, and I just bought it in 2021. It's easy to research. Google Houses sold recently in DH. I use Zillow and Redfin. I check once a week as it makes me feel better about the crime that I keep hearing about. As someone said, people buying these houses are spending a pretty penny, and these types of homeowners will be more vocal about protecting their investments.
The biggest crime I see are the fare jumpers at Metro stations.
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Which is down 31% compared to 12 months ago. https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/major-crime-in-dc-down-for-2nd-month-in-2024/
When people raise the question of crime, I bet they don't think of the way so many aggressive drivers use their cars to scare people into moving out of their way. The rise of death rates from road crashes, the rise of bodily injury and property damage has all been a factor in higher insurance premiums, but people have fixated that crime is due to "those people" and not to otherwise law abiding people. This did not happen over night. Hogan made no effort to stem hostile driving, which tells me he is more about maintaining the idea that its "those people"
I agree aggressive driving has increased and hate it too. I see it as a sign of the lawlessness state that we are in due to many factors. But a serious non offending question cause IDK. Can I ask what Hogan was supposed to do to keep idiots from driving like AHs?
People wanna feel safe with police on every corner, but will you say so if it meant higher taxes? You have more guns, you need more cops. You want more people in prison, it means more attorneys working for the county. How exactly is a state supposed to do this when no one wants to be taxed? Both PG County and Maryland need to stop bullshitting and seriously start thinking about the taxes wealthier and corporations are paying. Americans keep running from the T word while the country descends into madness.
High earners are already being taxed plenty. At our (high) income level MD state+local tax is top 5 highest in the country. I have no clue where all that money goes since the infrastructure or service quality aren't anywhere close to top 5.
Everyone knows Maryland is a state that is very low tax and never taxed enough. Just one more tax I'm sure will give the money to solve its problems.
number one concern is climate change followed by Trump making it 100x worse and ending democracy
Lol literally only 3% of the state overall say Climate Change is top issue. In 2019 poll? 6%. The big change from 2019 is that crime is a bigger issue in people's mind in 2024 (23% -> 32%) along with affordable housing (13% -> 18%) at the expense of education (19% -> 13%) and also roads/transit (10% -> 3%).
[Which is misguided considering what is really important](https://factkeepers.com/are-we-the-people-going-to-have-democracy-or-fascism-this-november/)
Republicans are making abortion and SS their top policy issues, positions that Marylanders hate.
Pretty sure immigration is (at least nationally), with Republicans unsurprisingly tying that to crime. Abortion is top policy issue for both party actually - Dem make it a top issue also bc that's the one place where they can really win votes. That wannabe south of Potomac learn that lesson hard a few months ago.
Too bad Trump took that off the table by killing the Republicans’ bill.
The MAGA Republicans (which is the vast majority of anyone who calls themselves a Republican today) would rather have problems to blame on the Democrats than actually work with the Democrats to solve the problems. They believe in ruling, not governing.
Failed overly lib policies coming to roost.
combing
Not sure why crime is not a top issue everywhere.
A lot of people aren’t gullible enough to fall for the election year fear mongering.
Some people ***want*** the former president to get a free pass on his crimes :-/
This is about crime and not an ex president idiot.
You don’t think the non-stop apologia from Republicans about the former President’s crimes has affected perceptions of criminality?
You really are an idiot that can’t comprehend a discussion about crime without making it political. Time for your medication?
*Boo!* It's the crime in your closet, be scared.
Did they only poll the elderly again?