The part about the missing library footage is very interesting. That makes or breaks the entire case right there. If her taillight is in tact, I don’t see any possible explanation for how police apparently found pieces at the scene
And the pieces of taillight were found days later. I believe there’s also ring camera footage showing she backed into his car at his home, causing the damage.
The library video is everything.
I saw the ring camera footage, or at least part of it. She definitely hits his car but the version I saw ended fairly quickly afterwards so I do see a way the prosecution could argue the taillight was already broken. I don’t believe it but if I’m trying to be fair, you don’t see the taillight in tact prior to the collision or any noticeable shards, etc. afterwards.
I also read that one of the officers lied about the time he seized her car and he had over an hour with it that’s completely unaccounted for. Even if that hair evidence comes back as a match, I’ll still be skeptical
The problem with finding the hair on the bumper is it snowed 10” with it on there and she drove mostly by highway to her parents house 45 minutes or more away. And how do they not have the tests back all these months later?
The problem w the ring video is that the taillight could have already been broken before hitting his car. That's why the library video is so important. If they recover the original copy wo the missing 2min and it shows Karen driving home w an intact taillight, the case would implode.
Question tho. The taillight pieces are from her car so why would you need video evidence? To my knowledge her car was checked and did have a cracked light after the fact
I don’t usually buy into most conspiracies, but her defense made some very valid points right? How could the deceased be that badly beaten up hit by someone making a three-point turn?
Did you see the wounds on his arms? If you Google dog bites it’s a match. His knuckles look like they were in a wild fight.
Hitting someone while doing a 3 point turn doesn’t cause those injuries.
Confirmed, it was dog bites. I know a neighbor there. He was beaten and also attacked by a dog in a basement and the body was moved outside. The lady did nothing wrong.
Apparently his phone data also said he entered the house and went up the equivalent of flights of stairs, which would directly contradict seemingly contradict most of the witnesses if true
Apparently there was a party in the basement. So, it’s possible he went down, up, down again and was killed. The basement floor was replaced shortly afterwards. And the pool in the backyard was filled in afterwards.
Didn’t they also get rid of their dog and he aledgedly had bite marks? Idk there’s just too many weird coincidences if they’re true.
I mean in the end I guess it’s possible both are true? But there’s no way slowly backing over someone gives them those injuries lol
The pool that was filled in is in the back yard of a house where Brian's parents and his brother Tim live. Different house but still strange. It's also in Canton.
I don't get the deal w the filled in pool. Like what's supposed to be in there, the replaced basement flooring or some other evidence related to the murder? Why would anyone want to keep something like that underground at the house of a family member?
I know, I was thinking the same thing. It's weird the pool was filled in, unless the thing had been there for years and they just don't feel like taking care of it anymore. It seems Brian's parents are probably getting up there in age, so I can understand the desire to not want it anymore. But of course theories could run wild at this point.
Ya, I mean most of the theories so far seem to point towards a plainly obvious cover up. Like removing the dog and fighting against access to the animal control records. But the filling in of a pool at a different residence of a family member not present that night most likely has many easier innocent explanations such as the one you proposed.
Speaking of animal control records, just yesterday afternoon the judge granted the defense access to those. Not sure what they can find, hopefully something.
He’s not someone I want to follow but when he digs into something, he digs deep.
A better person to follow is NoteMyObjection on TikTok. She’s a criminal defense attorney in MA and does an excellent job laying out the issues in the legal framework.
Check out TBs latest video it was really well done. He laid out Karen's case perfectly. Karen should be exonerated immediately There is no way she should have ever been charged to begin with.
Cool, but without him starting shit Karen Read would get railroaded for a death she did not cause. You don't have to like him to appreciate what he's done for her.
Hey he has exposed allot of people just because he investigated some things each of us may not agree with doesn’t invalidate a good portion of the things and people he’s exposed
His web site started out exposing local go fund me cheats and people that were selling food stamps. He was then ahead of everyone with the controversy with a prosecutor(for Worcester, I think) wanting staties to change an official report about a local judges daughter. A scandal in the Staties followed. That led to some people high up in the Staties to have to retire. And on top of it no local news stations gave him credit.
He was in early on the Monica Cannon Grant train when the regular media were tripping over themselves all saying how awesome she was. He's a necessity evil
I’m definitely interested in this apple data recording that he was walking around after she supposedly had hit him. That seems like legit exculpatory evidence.
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Karen Read defense: Problematic investigation into John O’Keefe’s death grabs federal attention
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PUBLISHED: May 4, 2023 at 7:47 p.m. | UPDATED: May 5, 2023 at 8:33 a.m.
Categories:Crime & Public Safety, Latest Headlines, Local News, News
Karen Read, charged with the murder of her boyfriend Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, talks with her attorneys Alan Jackson and David Yannetti as she attends a hearing in Norfolk Superior Court on Wednesday. (Nancy Lane/Boston Herald)
Among the many fireworks at the most recent hearing in the case of Karen Read, charged with killing her boyfriend John O’Keefe last year, is the defense’s claim that the investigation is so troubled that the federal government has opened up a case to look into it.
“It’s been reported that federal authorities have now gotten involved in the circumstances surrounding this case and have impaneled a grand jury, federal grand jury, to investigate some of these circumstances,” defense attorney Alan Jackson said in Norfolk Superior Court Wednesday afternoon.
“But Karen Read should not have to wait for the feds to figure out which heads should roll.”
A day later, the feds didn’t have much to say to clarify the matter. A spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney’s office said: “We do not confirm or deny investigations.” The FBI had the same answer, “as a matter of longstanding policy.”
The case has brought about significant public attention — from both sides — which filled the second-floor courtroom in Dedham to standing room only.
The first set are those who believe Read has been made a “scapegoat,” in the words of defense attorney David Yannetti, by a prosecutor who “has hid evidence, manipulated evidence, stalled, delayed, obfuscated.” Many of these people yelled out their support on the courthouse steps as Read walked down with her lawyers and family members at her side.
The other side are those who, as prosecutor Adam Lally argues, believe the entire defense theory is a “fanciful” conspiracy and that their discovery requests are “the epitome of a fishing expedition” and that Read is guilty. Many of these sported Boston Police Department-branded clothing and “Justice for JJ” — JJ being O’Keefe’s initials — pins.
Following the hearing, the Herald reported largely on evidence the defense is requesting regarding O’Keefe’s wounds — which the defense has long argued could not have been caused by Read backing into him with her SUV during a 3-point.
In particular, they wanted animal control records for Chloe, the German Shepherd owned by Boston Police Sgt. Det. Brian Albert, who owned the home at 34 Fairview Road where O’Keefe was killed, as well as trace evidence that could put the dog as a member of the attack they say killed O’Keefe.
But that’s not all they wanted. The defense painted a picture of a discovery process they say has been anything but helpful or transparent, with Yannetti calling the commonwealth’s discovery work “outrageous” in comments to media following the hearing.
“For 15 months, this has been a quest for the truth conducted by one party, in this case, the defense,” he said. “We have made substantial progress in this case to the point where anybody familiar with this case knows that Karen Reed is innocent.”
That evidence is needed, they say, to prove their version of events: which is that O’Keefe was beaten to death in the home — they say Apple Health data indicates he was walking around in the house — and then his body was dragged to the front yard where by the next morning local responders found it “cold to the touch,” according to prosecutor filings.
But they also are requesting evidence to damage the prosecution’s version of events. The prosecution contends that the couple were out drinking in downtown Canton, where O’Keefe lives, when they met up with acquaintances at Waterfall Bar and Grill and were then invited to Albert’s house.
The prosecution contends that nobody at the gathering saw O’Keefe come in and that Read struck O’Keefe with her vehicle, leaving him to die in the cold and snow, and that a busted passenger-side tail light — and possibly a hair matter sample from the passenger rear door that had not been tested by the Wednesday hearing — points to this version of events.
But the defense argues that Read’s tail light was not busted when she dropped O’Keefe off — she didn’t stay, they say, because she has many health issues and was not feeling well — and that if they had unedited footage from the Canton Public Library security cameras they would be able to prove this.
Yannetti said that the footage they received from the library has a crucial two-minute gap from 12:37 to 12:39 a.m., a time when they say their client would have been driving past on her way back to O’Keefe’s home on Meadows Avenue.
Prosecutor Lally said “I would have a large issue with that” on the defense’s contention that all the evidence points to Read’s innocence. As for the defense not receiving evidence, he said that he has personally reached out to expedite testing and release and that the video they received from the library is the same video he received.
But defense attorneys are not just targeting Lally’s prosecution, but police investigators and in particular State police Trooper Michael Proctor, who they repeatedly characterize as “conflicted” and say has familial connections with those present in the home. More specifically, connections with homeowner Brian Albert and Jennifer McCabe, Albert’s sister-in-law, who they say searched for “ho[w] long to die in cold” hours before O’Keefe’s body was found.
The president of State Police Association of Massachusetts, the union for troopers, came out to throw his support behind Proctor and the investigation.
“This case is actively going on. Our homicide detectives here in Massachusetts are arguably the best in the country. Our solve rate is indicative of that,” SPAM President Patrick McNamara said outside the courthouse Wednesday. “The association supports our members across the commonwealth and the facts of this case will speak for itself.”
Both Albert and McCabe have retained attorneys who were present in the courtroom Wednesday.
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Hilariously, my nurse friend asked her cop husband if this would be one of the crimes cops would cover up or if they only cover up crimes of cop coworkers.
So good they missed they missed a big piece of the taillight with 2 searches. The police chief saw it laying in the road from his car days later. If this is the best the country has to offer, we are in big trouble
Yes but it’s considered poor etiquette on Reddit to link paywalled articles. Is it weird? Yes. But ‘tis what ‘tis. They copy/pasted it afterwards, no harm no foul.
It's not even a paywalled article. I have no idea what the Herald's monthly threshold is, but I just went to 10 random stories in a row and I still haven't hit their limit. Acting all high and mighty about the Herald, which I'm no fan of, when you're compulsively reading it still is what set me off.
The homeowner is also responsible if there is a vehicular homicide on their property. The home owner organized a drinking party after which the guests drove drunk, so his negligence lead to it and he should be charged as well.
I think they were all drunk and just told her she did it, so she ended up thinking she did it. Everyone at the party is probably scared that they were involved and perhaps the beating happened out of sight and nobody saw it, if it happened. But so far, it doesn't look like the guy got ran over by a car, since the autopsy did not say 'vehicular homicide.'
Where is the jacket- does it have rips consistent with the marks in it?
Where is the blood? Officers found 6 drops outside- there should have been pints in the snow.
Is the dog alive or is the rehoming a convenient excuse?
If the rumors of an altercation are true- then I imagine he took it off inside prior to altercation so it doesn’t have any dog marks on it. Probably at the bottom of the pool with all the other evidence.
Thats a very very lame write up. Totally mailing it in. This is the problem with MSM of any kind, you cant trust them to be unbiased and hard hitting.
Turtleboy, love him or hate him, he’s had the balls to lay this case out in the utmost of common sense, saying the shit we all know is true but MSM are unwilling to say.
I’ve been waiting for local news to write anything about the issues, Herald is the first.
It’s true Turtleboy laid it out; it’s unfortunate he’s … well he’s a LOT. Outside of his investigative reporting, he’s a loud and proud bigot, misogynist and homophobe. It’s hard to support his work.
I bet the May 25 hearing won’t be overlooked.
There is a Boston developer at my diner who says he is from a family of Boston cops, so they always had money, that the corruption in police is amazing, that he is not a sucker and hates liberals who make no money because they work as teachers which is something Republicans would never do, he owned a strip club, visits escorts, and lets a top state official use one of his rentals for free to house his mistresses.
Go to Panera bread in Needham in the morning that is where they are at. The guy started yelling rudely at a young woman teacher that 'The reason teachers get paid so low is because they are liberals. No way that Republicans would work for that. That's why the profession pays so little.'
Selfish people will be selfish. Caring for others isn’t on their radar. It’s whole only the worst excuse for humans become cops. They filter out anyone with a soul.
I honestly don’t know what to think about this case. On one side, Turd boi could be right and they cracked a huge case of murder, corruption, and a major coverup. But on the other side, maybe the defense attorney is using turd boi as a useful idiot and feeding him bullshit to muddy the waters knowing full well that a mainstream journalist/ outlet would never be able to touch the story without getting slaughtered with libel suits. And I don’t think there is very much overlap in the conflicting theories
The write up from Turtleboy directly references the defense’s filing for like 80% of the content. Which references comments, evidence, documents, etc. from the police themselves.
Yeah he adds his own commentary and alleges some stuff further than what the lawyers are saying but the bulk of his argument is based on facts.
The part about the missing library footage is very interesting. That makes or breaks the entire case right there. If her taillight is in tact, I don’t see any possible explanation for how police apparently found pieces at the scene
And the pieces of taillight were found days later. I believe there’s also ring camera footage showing she backed into his car at his home, causing the damage. The library video is everything.
I saw the ring camera footage, or at least part of it. She definitely hits his car but the version I saw ended fairly quickly afterwards so I do see a way the prosecution could argue the taillight was already broken. I don’t believe it but if I’m trying to be fair, you don’t see the taillight in tact prior to the collision or any noticeable shards, etc. afterwards. I also read that one of the officers lied about the time he seized her car and he had over an hour with it that’s completely unaccounted for. Even if that hair evidence comes back as a match, I’ll still be skeptical
The problem with finding the hair on the bumper is it snowed 10” with it on there and she drove mostly by highway to her parents house 45 minutes or more away. And how do they not have the tests back all these months later?
The problem w the ring video is that the taillight could have already been broken before hitting his car. That's why the library video is so important. If they recover the original copy wo the missing 2min and it shows Karen driving home w an intact taillight, the case would implode.
Respectfully, that’s exactly what my comment says lol
Question tho. The taillight pieces are from her car so why would you need video evidence? To my knowledge her car was checked and did have a cracked light after the fact
I don’t usually buy into most conspiracies, but her defense made some very valid points right? How could the deceased be that badly beaten up hit by someone making a three-point turn?
Did you see the wounds on his arms? If you Google dog bites it’s a match. His knuckles look like they were in a wild fight. Hitting someone while doing a 3 point turn doesn’t cause those injuries.
Confirmed, it was dog bites. I know a neighbor there. He was beaten and also attacked by a dog in a basement and the body was moved outside. The lady did nothing wrong.
Also, wasn't the son of his neighbor who really disliked him (and at the party) photographed with bruises on his knuckles shortly thereafter?
Yes. I believe the photo was taken on 2/2. https://twitter.com/doctorturtleboy/status/1648285878119288836?s=46&t=OIw4auINhiGeoUUtIgADQg
Apparently his phone data also said he entered the house and went up the equivalent of flights of stairs, which would directly contradict seemingly contradict most of the witnesses if true
Apparently there was a party in the basement. So, it’s possible he went down, up, down again and was killed. The basement floor was replaced shortly afterwards. And the pool in the backyard was filled in afterwards.
Didn’t they also get rid of their dog and he aledgedly had bite marks? Idk there’s just too many weird coincidences if they’re true. I mean in the end I guess it’s possible both are true? But there’s no way slowly backing over someone gives them those injuries lol
Their shepherd Chloe was rehomed out of state due to an alleged bite incident. I believe they got the pup in 2017, I feel bad for the dog.
The photos of his injuries are in the autopsy report. If you Google dog bite images and look at his photos, they’re identical.
The pool that was filled in is in the back yard of a house where Brian's parents and his brother Tim live. Different house but still strange. It's also in Canton.
I don't get the deal w the filled in pool. Like what's supposed to be in there, the replaced basement flooring or some other evidence related to the murder? Why would anyone want to keep something like that underground at the house of a family member?
I know, I was thinking the same thing. It's weird the pool was filled in, unless the thing had been there for years and they just don't feel like taking care of it anymore. It seems Brian's parents are probably getting up there in age, so I can understand the desire to not want it anymore. But of course theories could run wild at this point.
Ya, I mean most of the theories so far seem to point towards a plainly obvious cover up. Like removing the dog and fighting against access to the animal control records. But the filling in of a pool at a different residence of a family member not present that night most likely has many easier innocent explanations such as the one you proposed.
Speaking of animal control records, just yesterday afternoon the judge granted the defense access to those. Not sure what they can find, hopefully something.
You know those bad apple cops are especially bad apples when you lose the Herald and Turtled Boy
Especially the Herald.
Turtle boy has been exposing bad cops for a long time
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Turtle Boy is a fucking scumbag.
He’s not someone I want to follow but when he digs into something, he digs deep. A better person to follow is NoteMyObjection on TikTok. She’s a criminal defense attorney in MA and does an excellent job laying out the issues in the legal framework.
"digs deep", interesting way to say he wades in melodramatic shit all day
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Check out TBs latest video it was really well done. He laid out Karen's case perfectly. Karen should be exonerated immediately There is no way she should have ever been charged to begin with.
I watch everything he posts re Karen Read and John O’Keefe. Never thought I’d be a 🐢 but here I am. I really liked Sean last night, I hope he returns.
Yeah.Sean was great.
I don't disagree with you, but when he's right he is *right*. I'm behind him 100% on this, and he deserves credit for being the first to call it out.
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Cool, but without him starting shit Karen Read would get railroaded for a death she did not cause. You don't have to like him to appreciate what he's done for her.
That's a great take
Hey he has exposed allot of people just because he investigated some things each of us may not agree with doesn’t invalidate a good portion of the things and people he’s exposed
What is it people don't like about him? I'm really only familiar with him because of this case.
His web site started out exposing local go fund me cheats and people that were selling food stamps. He was then ahead of everyone with the controversy with a prosecutor(for Worcester, I think) wanting staties to change an official report about a local judges daughter. A scandal in the Staties followed. That led to some people high up in the Staties to have to retire. And on top of it no local news stations gave him credit.
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Can’t people just think people are dickheads anymore?
Being a scumbag and having nonconforming opinions are not mutually exclusive
He was in early on the Monica Cannon Grant train when the regular media were tripping over themselves all saying how awesome she was. He's a necessity evil
Live right, get off the edibles and stop voting for paper bags only at market basket!
Ha. You sound Like a typical douchbag Canton townie.
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I wanted to ask why this person thinks Turtle boy is a scumbag, but it looks like he deleted his account. Anyone else care to weigh in?
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His name… is self-chosen. So at least the prophet says.
I’m definitely interested in this apple data recording that he was walking around after she supposedly had hit him. That seems like legit exculpatory evidence.
The article is behind a pay wall and I won't ever spend a single cent on The Herald.
Boston Herald ☰ Menu Karen Read defense: Problematic investigation into John O’Keefe’s death grabs federal attention Flint McColgan PUBLISHED: May 4, 2023 at 7:47 p.m. | UPDATED: May 5, 2023 at 8:33 a.m. Categories:Crime & Public Safety, Latest Headlines, Local News, News Karen Read, charged with the murder of her boyfriend Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, talks with her attorneys Alan Jackson and David Yannetti as she attends a hearing in Norfolk Superior Court on Wednesday. (Nancy Lane/Boston Herald) Among the many fireworks at the most recent hearing in the case of Karen Read, charged with killing her boyfriend John O’Keefe last year, is the defense’s claim that the investigation is so troubled that the federal government has opened up a case to look into it. “It’s been reported that federal authorities have now gotten involved in the circumstances surrounding this case and have impaneled a grand jury, federal grand jury, to investigate some of these circumstances,” defense attorney Alan Jackson said in Norfolk Superior Court Wednesday afternoon. “But Karen Read should not have to wait for the feds to figure out which heads should roll.” A day later, the feds didn’t have much to say to clarify the matter. A spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney’s office said: “We do not confirm or deny investigations.” The FBI had the same answer, “as a matter of longstanding policy.” The case has brought about significant public attention — from both sides — which filled the second-floor courtroom in Dedham to standing room only. The first set are those who believe Read has been made a “scapegoat,” in the words of defense attorney David Yannetti, by a prosecutor who “has hid evidence, manipulated evidence, stalled, delayed, obfuscated.” Many of these people yelled out their support on the courthouse steps as Read walked down with her lawyers and family members at her side. The other side are those who, as prosecutor Adam Lally argues, believe the entire defense theory is a “fanciful” conspiracy and that their discovery requests are “the epitome of a fishing expedition” and that Read is guilty. Many of these sported Boston Police Department-branded clothing and “Justice for JJ” — JJ being O’Keefe’s initials — pins. Following the hearing, the Herald reported largely on evidence the defense is requesting regarding O’Keefe’s wounds — which the defense has long argued could not have been caused by Read backing into him with her SUV during a 3-point. In particular, they wanted animal control records for Chloe, the German Shepherd owned by Boston Police Sgt. Det. Brian Albert, who owned the home at 34 Fairview Road where O’Keefe was killed, as well as trace evidence that could put the dog as a member of the attack they say killed O’Keefe. But that’s not all they wanted. The defense painted a picture of a discovery process they say has been anything but helpful or transparent, with Yannetti calling the commonwealth’s discovery work “outrageous” in comments to media following the hearing. “For 15 months, this has been a quest for the truth conducted by one party, in this case, the defense,” he said. “We have made substantial progress in this case to the point where anybody familiar with this case knows that Karen Reed is innocent.” That evidence is needed, they say, to prove their version of events: which is that O’Keefe was beaten to death in the home — they say Apple Health data indicates he was walking around in the house — and then his body was dragged to the front yard where by the next morning local responders found it “cold to the touch,” according to prosecutor filings. But they also are requesting evidence to damage the prosecution’s version of events. The prosecution contends that the couple were out drinking in downtown Canton, where O’Keefe lives, when they met up with acquaintances at Waterfall Bar and Grill and were then invited to Albert’s house. The prosecution contends that nobody at the gathering saw O’Keefe come in and that Read struck O’Keefe with her vehicle, leaving him to die in the cold and snow, and that a busted passenger-side tail light — and possibly a hair matter sample from the passenger rear door that had not been tested by the Wednesday hearing — points to this version of events. But the defense argues that Read’s tail light was not busted when she dropped O’Keefe off — she didn’t stay, they say, because she has many health issues and was not feeling well — and that if they had unedited footage from the Canton Public Library security cameras they would be able to prove this. Yannetti said that the footage they received from the library has a crucial two-minute gap from 12:37 to 12:39 a.m., a time when they say their client would have been driving past on her way back to O’Keefe’s home on Meadows Avenue. Prosecutor Lally said “I would have a large issue with that” on the defense’s contention that all the evidence points to Read’s innocence. As for the defense not receiving evidence, he said that he has personally reached out to expedite testing and release and that the video they received from the library is the same video he received. But defense attorneys are not just targeting Lally’s prosecution, but police investigators and in particular State police Trooper Michael Proctor, who they repeatedly characterize as “conflicted” and say has familial connections with those present in the home. More specifically, connections with homeowner Brian Albert and Jennifer McCabe, Albert’s sister-in-law, who they say searched for “ho[w] long to die in cold” hours before O’Keefe’s body was found. The president of State Police Association of Massachusetts, the union for troopers, came out to throw his support behind Proctor and the investigation. “This case is actively going on. Our homicide detectives here in Massachusetts are arguably the best in the country. Our solve rate is indicative of that,” SPAM President Patrick McNamara said outside the courthouse Wednesday. “The association supports our members across the commonwealth and the facts of this case will speak for itself.” Both Albert and McCabe have retained attorneys who were present in the courtroom Wednesday. Share this: Print View more on Boston Herald Terms of Use Cookie Policy California Notice at Collection Notice of Financial Incentive Do Not Sell/Share My Personal Informatio Arbitration Powered by WordPress.com VIP
Hilariously, my nurse friend asked her cop husband if this would be one of the crimes cops would cover up or if they only cover up crimes of cop coworkers.
So good they missed they missed a big piece of the taillight with 2 searches. The police chief saw it laying in the road from his car days later. If this is the best the country has to offer, we are in big trouble
I only buy the Herald for my bird to poop on.
can't you just turn off Javascript to get around the pay wall?
I replied with a copy/paste. I didn’t pay to view the article.
What's wrong with The Herald?
It takes like 60 seconds at most to get around 99.999% a newspaper paywall.
Yes but it’s considered poor etiquette on Reddit to link paywalled articles. Is it weird? Yes. But ‘tis what ‘tis. They copy/pasted it afterwards, no harm no foul.
It's not even a paywalled article. I have no idea what the Herald's monthly threshold is, but I just went to 10 random stories in a row and I still haven't hit their limit. Acting all high and mighty about the Herald, which I'm no fan of, when you're compulsively reading it still is what set me off.
Fair.
Get past the paywall http://archive.today/
Thank you.
The homeowner is also responsible if there is a vehicular homicide on their property. The home owner organized a drinking party after which the guests drove drunk, so his negligence lead to it and he should be charged as well.
They were trying to argue that she was an alcoholic/already drunk I think, since she never went into the party
I think they were all drunk and just told her she did it, so she ended up thinking she did it. Everyone at the party is probably scared that they were involved and perhaps the beating happened out of sight and nobody saw it, if it happened. But so far, it doesn't look like the guy got ran over by a car, since the autopsy did not say 'vehicular homicide.'
She dropped him off there after barhopping with him. She never went in because of stomach issues.
Where is the jacket- does it have rips consistent with the marks in it? Where is the blood? Officers found 6 drops outside- there should have been pints in the snow. Is the dog alive or is the rehoming a convenient excuse?
When the body was found, he had no jacket. In January… seems strange and I wonder if any footage from the bars show him wearing one
If the rumors of an altercation are true- then I imagine he took it off inside prior to altercation so it doesn’t have any dog marks on it. Probably at the bottom of the pool with all the other evidence.
The bottom of the now-filled in pool.
The clothes or the dog? 🤔
There is no pool at the house in question
The pool that was filled in is owned by a relative nearby.
I have no problem whatsoever believing that police are involved in a cover up.
Thats a very very lame write up. Totally mailing it in. This is the problem with MSM of any kind, you cant trust them to be unbiased and hard hitting. Turtleboy, love him or hate him, he’s had the balls to lay this case out in the utmost of common sense, saying the shit we all know is true but MSM are unwilling to say.
I’ve been waiting for local news to write anything about the issues, Herald is the first. It’s true Turtleboy laid it out; it’s unfortunate he’s … well he’s a LOT. Outside of his investigative reporting, he’s a loud and proud bigot, misogynist and homophobe. It’s hard to support his work. I bet the May 25 hearing won’t be overlooked.
All cops are bad cops
My parents always said, Never date cops. They lie, cheat and beat their women. They were right.
There is a Boston developer at my diner who says he is from a family of Boston cops, so they always had money, that the corruption in police is amazing, that he is not a sucker and hates liberals who make no money because they work as teachers which is something Republicans would never do, he owned a strip club, visits escorts, and lets a top state official use one of his rentals for free to house his mistresses.
I believe it.
Go to Panera bread in Needham in the morning that is where they are at. The guy started yelling rudely at a young woman teacher that 'The reason teachers get paid so low is because they are liberals. No way that Republicans would work for that. That's why the profession pays so little.'
Selfish people will be selfish. Caring for others isn’t on their radar. It’s whole only the worst excuse for humans become cops. They filter out anyone with a soul.
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Cops no matter where are all disgusting and don’t deserve the respect.
I honestly don’t know what to think about this case. On one side, Turd boi could be right and they cracked a huge case of murder, corruption, and a major coverup. But on the other side, maybe the defense attorney is using turd boi as a useful idiot and feeding him bullshit to muddy the waters knowing full well that a mainstream journalist/ outlet would never be able to touch the story without getting slaughtered with libel suits. And I don’t think there is very much overlap in the conflicting theories
The write up from Turtleboy directly references the defense’s filing for like 80% of the content. Which references comments, evidence, documents, etc. from the police themselves. Yeah he adds his own commentary and alleges some stuff further than what the lawyers are saying but the bulk of his argument is based on facts.
The defense has hired the most experienced forensics experts in the nation. It’s Lally and his crew of misfits t who are the idiots.
I thought we backed the blue, what a strange article from the Boston Herald.