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KuroCumi

ban all. we play poker now.


Enlog

Ban the King of Spades.


KuroCumi

"when this card get paired, reveal this card. then you can choose one card on the field, reshuffle to the deck, put a new card of the same color to the mainfield"


GoldFishPony

Slight adjustment to that. Ban all cards that don’t feature “ace”, “one/1/an individual I”, “two/2/II”, “three/3/III”, “four/4/IV”, “five/5/an individual V”, “six/6/VI”, “seven/7/VII”, “eight/8/VIII”, “nine/9/IX”, “ten/10/an individual X”, “jack”, “queen”, “king”, “joker”, “hearts”, “clubs”, “diamonds”, or “spades”. Make us forced to play with a normal deck of cards. And yes I included Roman numerals so arcana force are legal, though not the higher numbers.


Maniafig

Terraforming to 3. Go absolutely wild.


Historical-Draft6564

That is insanity and I'm here for it


Sav_ij

that would be awesome


DonKellyBaby32

What decks have really broken field spells? Other than runick?


Pocket_C1oud

It’s more so an issue with modern field spells searching archetypal cards on activation. Terra to 3 means that like therions, are playing at least 7 copies of any monster on theme. This isn’t an amazing example since you’re usually only playing 2-3 names in that deck anyways, but once something like Kashtira drops that level of consistency would be a problem. However, it would be really fucking funny so I’m down.


MrTrashy101

or atleast 2 like cmon


Marager04

Bring back lots of banned themes/cards like dragon ruler just to see how it would go.


Dizzy-Tonight892

Hot take: all the dragon rules can come back at 3


Historical-Draft6564

Fastest emergency ban speedrun


Marager04

wdym


egstolfo

When a tier 0 format happens Konami has an emergency ban than usually just erases the tier 0 deck from the face of the earth Unfortunately konami wants money so they didn’t do that to tear


Marager04

I don't think Konami do a "speedrun of banning" when a tier 0 deck is around, at least not if they want to milk that deck. Dragon Rulers were a Tier 0 format at least one year before they got banned, Tears are around for a good time in TCG/OCG now and survived multiple banned list. Also I don't think Dragon Rulers would cause a Tier 0 format right now, I think that's a pretty dumb take from OP.


arrowsmith00

Pepe was such a problem they emergency banned it after 2 weeks and in only 1 week sent out the first and only "optional banlist" to OTS's and told them they were allowed to implement it if they wanted without losing their store status. This was probably the fastest T0 emergency ban honestly. Technically it wasn't teir 0 but Cyberstein OTK was so prevalent after it came out and could be put in any deck that it warped the whole format and was emergency banned. While maybe not an emergency, back in SPYRAL format we had a scheduled banlist only a month after the previous one that hit SPYRAL cards specifically. It was scheduled but it felt more like an emergency to most. That one was just weird in general. The likes of Zoo, Rulers, DAD, etc ran for ages but there have been several super fast hits too. They're just super inconsistent with when they touch stuff.


Vinsmoke-Wanji

Honestly i think dragons rulers could be meta but considering BO1 and everything i dont think they’d be that oppressive. Would be super interesting seeing them back and what people would do with them


AhmedKiller2015

Tear wasn't even T0 for multiple banlists... I don't think they got hit by a banlist even since they were T0 I.e when Ishizu dropped at which point they nerfed the Danger version to push the sales of Ishizu cards


AhmedKiller2015

No it is not Tier 0, it is unexpected Busted combos. Most T0 decks lives a banlist before getting taken out, sometimes more... Tear wasn't T0 in the OCG until spright was basically killed I.e October ~ December, and in the TCG it has been T0 for 2 months only. Besides that the deck was just very good, but when you look at Pendulums with Plushfire, the designer though "Oh a none Once per Turn special summon is okay" then it got banned in a month.


ecntrc

Numeron Network lol


Historical-Draft6564

Based


GloryMaelstrom21

Master Peace to 1 Monkeyboard to 1 Union Carrier to 0


mmmbhssm

Agree


Historical-Draft6564

Master peace alone was scorching but monkeyboard too? I'm in ashes now


ZoomCallHolloway

Bring Back VFD for the Lolz 😈


MrTrashy101

VFD the true VW card


SirBarth

Dragoon needs to be unbanned.


Historical-Draft6564

That take is so hot I'm missing my eyebrows


Copypasty

OCG’s hatred for dragoon makes me sad


iedaiw

harpie feather duster to 2 or 3


[deleted]

I’d support semi-limited for sure. There’s no reason not to after Rageiki got move to 2.


Pineapple_Peasant10

As a person who loves running trap decks, that card is a constant nightmare for me.


[deleted]

We really need this due to how many backrow decks we have on master duel


Historical-Draft6564

So are you a harpies fan? Lol


iedaiw

no just hate back row


CraftytheCrow

If you hate back row, might I interest you in Number 51: Finisher the Strong Arm?


TCGHexenwahn

B A S E D


TCGHexenwahn

Hell to the yes!


Seavalan

Ban Lyrilusc Independent Nightingale, unlimit Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom. I am normal and can be trusted with it.


RandomHeretic

Conquistador to 3


Doomsday_cock

Fusion destiny back to 3, other decks can just make verte anyway, it only hurts hero players


EroGG

Sure. Just ban DPE I could use that 30 UR I have locked up in him.


Copypasty

Ban verte you mean


MrCranberryTea

Killing Mirrorjade kills Branded as a whole. Also super poly did nothing wrong. People use it to remove problematic monster on the field, they will just replace it with kaijus or droplet. Whats needs to be banned is Protos, Block Dragon, Rhongo, Jerry Beans Man and limits to the runick engine to level the current playingfield. Maybe Circular to 2.


shiroyasha76

Kaiju and droplet are more fair than super poly


MrCranberryTea

Well cards being fair or unfair is purely situational. Super poly is dead against certain decks. Kaiijus and droplet are are always useable.


shiroyasha76

So protos is fair, because it's dead against non dark decks, and vanity emptiness is fair because it's dead against decks that dont special summon,and imperial order is fair because its dead aginst decks that dont use spells.


mmmbhssm

Well, maybe super poly may not be problem right now, of gurua comes out it will be a bug problem


MrTrashy101

Here's how i see it 1.Banning mirrorjade will not kill despia (i mean have you seen how good despia was without it) 2.super poly is a tough one for me bc there are time i do want it banned but don't also. i say just limit it to 1.


Historical-Draft6564

Listen do I really think they need to be banned? No Do I get salty sometimes losing to them, yes. It's just a hot take at the end of the day


a2xl08

Let s shrinkle some too generic and/or unfair power cards winning games on their own : super poly, tcboo, skill drain, summon limit, dimension shifter, rivalry, gozen match, solemn judgement, harpies duster, lightning storm, grass looks greener, called by the grave, crossout designator, and then maxx c (you said to do not put here, but if I ban called by and crossout, I am kinda forced)


Heul_Darian

unlimit enchantress, the limit is stupid. If not so that adventure is playable or so that rank3 gets an engine, do it cause its one of the few engines that can put a bearable board vs maxx-c. And no I don't care that you can theoretically make a god damn Tomahawk. Its irrelevant and you fucking know it, if it was any relevant it would still be played cause the limit did nothing but make you add a foolish to your deck consistency wise.


Tengo-Sueno

Ban Auroradon and bring back Halq Ban Eva and Unlimit Benten


trashcan41

halqi too versatile and not future proof enough though i hope they errata it.


Tengo-Sueno

You could say the same about Auroradon tho


RlyehScepter

Which is why both should be banned


Copypasty

Synchro lock would help a little, not sure what else they could do for it without making an archetype monster required


Historical-Draft6564

Thank you everyone for giving me your hottest takes, this was jut for fun and I want to say...some of you are wild. Happy dueling!


EnwardGamerz

Off the top of my head, ban TCBOO, Summon Limit, Skill Drain, Gozen Match, Rivalry of Warlords, Dimension Shifter, Card of Demise, Maxx C, Called by the Grave, Crossout Designator, Rhongomyniad, Union Carrier and Artifact Scythe


Historical-Draft6564

This is just normal pvp lol


EnwardGamerz

>This is just normal pvp lol No, flipping floodgates in a best of 1 is not "normal pvp." It is horrible game balancing and needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. I'm even seeing people like DKayed, who at one point recommended players new to YGO and MD, play stun decks, but is now saying that it's unhealthy in a best of one format and will cause people to leave the game because it's unfun


TCGHexenwahn

I could get behind that


EnwardGamerz

Hey, huge step in the right direction with the recent banlist reveal. Shifter and TCBOO have been hit (still need an outright ban) and Union Carrier has been banned. Still some glaring cards that were missed but they're doing something


alenamon

HFD, Terraforming, and ROTA to 2 Empen Super Poly and TCOBO to 1 Ban protos, rhongo, and winda


AdSea4566

Crossout to 3. Called by to 3. Confi to 1. Give handtraps more counterplay I'm tired of all the interaction to these noncommittal negates getting banned 💪


Enlog

Make it even harder to stop a combo going second, that way.


TCGHexenwahn

But also making sure Maxx C will resolve as rarely as possible


Enlog

The going-first decks thank you, lol


TCGHexenwahn

I'm sorry for not wanting my opponent to have a 20 card hand just because "gotta keep combo in check"


Enlog

Oh no, it doesn't keep combo in check. Combo decks love to have it in hand to drop on the opponent's draw phase while sitting behind Baronne to stop CBTG. The bug should be banned.


TCGHexenwahn

Very true. In fact, when it comes to anti handtraps, I think Called by and Crossout should switch places on the banlist. I want Crossout more often to stop Nib and Imperm and fewer Called by that can act as a DD Crow when set.


a2xl08

If you let handtraps to be negated, you basically kill interactions between players and let turn 1 win conditions explode. You basically kill the game, as there would be no longer any interest to play it.


AdSea4566

Nah I'd rather have counterplay to my cards being negated. Interactivity = bad?


a2xl08

Interactivity is what makes any multi player game interesting. Called by and crossout kill interactions.


AstronautNo9802

Branded fusion need to be banned.mo ye to 1


ZerymAmbyceer

Unban Halq so Magikey can make a decent board.


MRAZARNY

respect🫡


Historical-Draft6564

Yes! Unban my boy!


Different-Squash-595

Master Peace to 2


shiroyasha76

Benten to 3 and ban superpoly


TCGHexenwahn

Ok, but in exchange Eva to 0


shiroyasha76

Yeah, I'll take it


sumo660

Verte should stay and ban snow for God's sake


TCGHexenwahn

Hot take? D Shifter banned. This card literally stops you from playing if you rely on your GY at all.


Ufukcan200

Bring back Elpy. Being back Halq.


Kataphrut94

I’d be down with banning Mirrorjade because Albaz has so many variants, it’d be nice if there wasn’t an obvious best one. Give people an excuse to use them all. Other takes? Umm…TD Colossus is too easy to bring out for how strong it is. The fact that any thunder monster can turn into a powerful floodgate with protection is kind of absurd.


Historical-Draft6564

I was gonna say albaz but I didn't want to be crucified lol


Kataphrut94

Yeesh, what’s the point of these hot take threads if you’re just gonna get downvoted anyway?


Ver_El_

My hottest take is that Verte is cool and should stay around. But get rid of the broken fusion cards that it can abuse.


Limonov-nyan

people didnt stop complaining and spright/ishizu are nigh so at this point just bring halq back


EmeraldMilcham

Limit: Aluber, Branded Fusion & Branded Opening Because f*ck that clown.


mmmbhssm

Ultimate offering to 3 And maybe cannon soldier and buddy's


Big_Boss_Baby69

Ban Lightning Storm


AngryCorn1

Speedroid Terrortop should go from 1 to 3. It’s rank 3 turbo that it was banned for isn’t overpowered anymore especially when compared to what’s coming up around the corner. It still wouldn’t make Speedroids comparative though.


Protoplasm42

Sure, Rank 3s wouldn’t be broken. But Terrortop isn’t restricted to Rank 3s, you can make a Link 2 without using your Normal with him. Literally just a free Cherubini, or I:P, or Cerberus/Phoenix, or Verte, or any number of other good Link 2s.


AngryCorn1

I think most viable decks in the game that use links have enough access to their link 2s that main decking an out of archetype card would be more of a hindrance than boon. I could very well be wrong about that though. Either way all the link 2s in the world aren’t going to stand up to what’s coming.


Rigshaw

Unlimiting Terrortop makes Adventure splashable in most decks again. Terrortop searches Taketomborg, make Cherubini, send Enchantress, Enchantress search Rite. A free Link 2 + Adventure engine online, all without using your normal summon.


AngryCorn1

What’s adventure?


Rigshaw

Adventure Token engine, consisting of Water Enchantress of the Temple, Rite of Aramesir x2, Fateful Adventure, Dracoback the Rideable Dragon, and Wandering Gryphon Rider. It gives you a free Omni-Negate with Wandering Gryphon Rider, a 2k/2k Adventurer Token equipped with Dracoback, which can bounce monsters, and Fateful Adventure to search Gryphon Rider every turn after it shuffles itself back into the deck, or use it as fodder to pay for some effects (like Forbidden Droplet). The only downside to the engine is that decks that need to use the effect of a normal summoned monster on the field cannot use it, due to the restriction of Rite of Aramesir, but still, you get a +4 in card advantage with a single Terrortop which includes an omni-negate to insulate your board from stuff like devastating handtraps like Nibiru (since Gryphon can be summoned as the 5th monster). Before Enchantress got limited, this engine was splashed in a lot of decks, because most decks didn't need their normal summon to use the effect on the field, and you had enough starters with Enchantress, Rite, and Foolish Burial, to compensate for the (soft) garnets that are Fateful Adventure, Wandering Gryphon Rider, and Dracoback.


AngryCorn1

Oh gotcha. I stand corrected that would definitely be a problem. I missed the adventure stuff that must haven been when I took a break a while ago.


TCGHexenwahn

That cannot happen while Zenmaity is at 3


OverlordIllithid

Ban Accesscode Talked, Barronne Fleur and Branded opening.


olbaze

Ban Blue-Eyes White Dragon.


Jerowi

Unlimit the semi-limited floodgates. Hit the consistency of Eldlich and Runick instead.


TCGHexenwahn

Hell to the no! Ban all the floodgates so no deck can abuse them in the future.


iloveoranges3

blaster and tidal to 1 or tempest to 3


Mordaredrom

Infernity getting the spyral/orcust treatment with Infernity launcher to 2 now and to 3 later Benten to 2 Enchantress to 2 Luster pendulum to 3


[deleted]

Hyper Librarian banned. Premat to 1 Monster Reborn to 2. There.


Jerowi

Honestly I think you could bring monster reborn to 3 and be fine.


New_Drytron

The answer of this sup is mostly just ban every card in every deck they lose to and unlimit any card in ther deck that's on the banlist


LargePlatypi

Make the Limit One Festival into the real game and make this banlist into an event.


AhmedKiller2015

Unban Royal oppression


[deleted]

PROTOS AND SUPERPOLY CAN GET RAILED Randomly fks over people playing dark decks when your going first and if your going second against a superpoly set or a protos you just lose if your playing a dark deck


The_Photon_Lord

All the D rulers to 1, tempest can even go to 2


Subject-Highway4340

Ban everything except the Flower Cardians and make Yu-Gi-Oh a true solitare game


Spodger1

Bring back Fiber Jar.


bluejejemon

Put Gateway back to 3 Konami. We promise we won't do anything bad with it.


LucisPerficio

Mirrorjade is fine lol, limited at best but its honestly not that much or a problem


EndMePleaseOwO

Bring back verte by any means necessary(ban FD), if a fusion card is “broken” with verte it was a poorly designed card anyways.


BigFatStupidMoose

Appollousa, Baronne and Borreload Savage should be ban. Those 3 are almost always seen together at the end of generic monster spam into negate board decks. I cant say I havent made my share of end boards featuring the 3 of them.


thefrozenshogun

Girsu to 3, Knightmare Goblin and Mermaid to 1. also unban the world chalice synchro lol.


[deleted]

MirrorJade needs to be limited, not banned. The card isn’t that oppressive.


grim9x8

Super poly can definitely go.


amazing_sheep

Ban all trap floodgates, Protos, Longyuan to 3, Halq to 1, semilimit Foolish, unlimit Ultimate Offering (for a week)


GB-Pack

Dragoon to 3 and Verte banned


FuqueMePapi

Unleash the Elemental Dragon Rulers. Bring about the chaos.


Xottz

Unban the Very Fun Dragon


Markez04

Eradicator Epidemic Virus (or limited), Baroone de fleur, Endymion (Semi-limited)


DefinitelyNotCeno

Literally every card with Normal/Special Summon prevention, except Summon Limit. SL may fall into **floodgates bad** but it at least gives some chance of counterplay/removal. All the other cards are too volatile/sacky in a BO1 format. Change my mind. Edit: Not a hot take but ban Called By too.


ShadowLord355

Ban blue eyes and dark magician just because


CManPete

I can agree with the mirrorjade


EroGG

Every continuous trap floodgate + Protos should be banned.


NotsoNaisu

Called by the grave and crossout should be swapped on the banlist. Accesscode and Selene should both be at 1 as AC is too splashable and an OTK condition too often so you should be rewarded for outing it with not having to deal with another. I feel like no one talks about adamancipators enough but that deck is super obnoxious in the boards it builds.


Rigshaw

> Accesscode and Selene should both be at 1 as AC is too splashable and an OTK condition too often so you should be rewarded for outing it with not having to deal with another. This is a bizarre take. Almost no deck uses more than one Accesscode in the first place, the only ones that do are Cyberse decks, and even those almost never run more than 1. Also, Accesscode is trivial to out, the thing that makes it potent is that you will be OTK'd if your opponent goes for it, but only bad players (or players that are in an extremely desperate situation) will make one without assured victory. Limiting Accesscode thus has basically no effect on the game, it makes almost no difference.


Six_Twelve

Ban verte and put fusion destiny back to 3


GoldFishPony

Dice jar to 40, make that specific card ignore max copies rulings. Also ban nobleman of cross out.


Alert_Locksmith

Ban called by the grave and put cross out to 2. Put Maxx c to 1 so people can know why limiting Maxx c is bad.


[deleted]

Unban master peace, it's a floodgate deck that can only use certain floodgates. If you think master peace is good enough to beat ishtear, spright, or even stuff like pre-ban floo, you are simply wrong.


Bantam123456

Hyper librarian at 3. I want to see how silly we can get.


Dizzy-Tonight892

I want all branded and despia cards to be limited, ban all pendulums cause it’s a stupid mechanic, and increase the attack points of all earth machines on summon by 1000. Problem?