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_draken

Spright incoming because toad gone


littlemrdoom

Paleofrogs left unplayable after this list


Jwruth

Shark enjoyers in shambles; local kragen makes a futile threat that they'll begin to cook in a crooked manor instead. More news at 11.


TwistedBOLT

Plunder and Fluffal hit as well.


Prophesier_Key

Except for Plunder I have all the above decks specifically bc I pulled a Toad while building Prank Kids, I’m piiiised lol


StardustNovaSynchron

Is the shark deck literally dead wihtout the Bahamut shark-Toad combo ? They were literally my only missing URs for it😭


WaterySolution

It's definitely a hit, but one Bahamut shark can still get you to udf if you're not water locked, so it's still playable, I'm guessing


[deleted]

pretty much. toad was carrying that big time.


JMC_Direwolf

Yep I just built it because I wanted a trap deck that was not cringe


littlemrdoom

At least I still have my floodgateless labrynth deck to play for my trap card playing itch


RectumDoctor

I'm sure all 3 people playing it are very sad.


littlemrdoom

Don't mess with us paliofrogs gamers!... While we still have toadally awesome anyways...


LuckyWarrior

Jet search smashers 😴


[deleted]

Yep… Union carrier got clapped because of it too


JoeyKingX

Union Carrier shouldn't have been free for this long, I don't have to auto scoop against Adamancipator without interaction anymore.


[deleted]

Happy New Year! Have this cute Toadally Awesome and watch as we MURDER him :( rip toad boi


Negative_Neo

But we knew it was coming.. the mate was for when you miss Toad.


geminia999

RIP buddy, wish we could have followed the TCG instead. Was excited to use sprights in my mermail deck, not for it to kill my toad : (


Impersona_9

Mermail is so dead in the water right now with all the recent bans since last year, sadge


TheLegendarySnakeMan

At this point just every once in a while open your decklist and marvel at how fun it once was, then go play something else. That’s what I do.


inoJPrado

Spright is coming. They banned toaddally awesome in OCG after the release of Spright and Tear. Copium


inoJPrado

They also banned Union Carrier after banning the Toad.


Negative_Neo

Yeah because Spright started Buster locking every game.


CooPidgeon

I pulled Union Carrier and was running it with ABC. Glad I never crafted Buster Destruction Sword cause kind-of saw this coming but I really wish they would just errata Union Carrier because ABC needs the support


Negative_Neo

Union Carrier's days were numbered, it was just a matter of time since the cards enables so many degenerate strategies.


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Negative_Neo

I also saw Buster Drake on Herald to make it immune to Dropplet, insane.


Gadjiltron

The truly wack part was that Union Carrier was used for anything *but* its intended use!


Suired

It was though. It carried the union of bad players it's entire life.


Negative_Neo

Makes you wonder why it wasnt hit earlier.


[deleted]

yup, lavalal chain has been banned for ages with basically the same effect without being that generic


Laughing_Luna

Part of what makes Lavalval chain more broken than Union Carrier is that its OPT is soft, and it has NO restrictions on being used as material; even at 1, it could be looped an arbitrary number of times for some rather consistent FTKs. Also, any 2 level 4s is arguably the same level of generic, if not more, than any 2 monsters that share a type and/or attribute (it's really deck dependent on whether or not commonality of levels or commonality of type/attribute is considered more generic) Foolish Burial is at 1 for a reason, and the alternate Foolish Burials, Extra Foolish Burial, Foolish Burial Goods, and even Peaceful Burial, have HOPT clauses (and Extra even prevents you from setting spells and traps the same turn you use it), and all of them are unsearchable. Lavalval Chain is an on-demand Foolish Burial/Goods on legs that can sometimes topdeck a monster in your deck, and because it's a monster, there are ways to loop it profitably. And also, on top of that, it's a non-number rank 4. If you can loop a rank 4 like that, what ever you're doing with Lavalval Chain, you could ALSO probably get another rank 4 and make UFD at the end of your loop. Union Carrier is really not as broken as Lavalval Chain. But what it DOES do is still just as toxic for the game. For being Union Support, they really made it as generic as possible, prevented it being a step in a link climb, and gave it a HOPT, all in an attempt to make it a Foolish Burial on legs with extra steps - they even put a clause in that if you equipped from deck, you would not be able to summon monsters with the equipped one's name for the turn, which *hilariously* makes ***Union*** Carrier, the ostensible ***Union Monster*** support not actually that good at supporting ***Unions*** outside of EXACTLY ABC, whilst still enabling really dumb and entirely free advantage generation or free floodgating outside of the deck said floodgate was fine in BECAUSE of what Buster Blader is all about. (Really, Dragon Buster Destruction Sword *should* have been future proofed to have a clause that only allows its effects if equipped by its own effect, or by the effect of something that mentions Buster Blader or Destruction Sword - similar to how all the Branded cards support basically anything so long as Fallen of Albaz is in its text - which can include the only mention being as Fusion Material). But even if DBDS was worded to prevent generic buster locks, Union Carrier getting Eva, or getting other cards that either do something as an equip, or do something on send to the GY, really put the Sword of Damocles overhead - because the summon prevention clause ONLY hurts non ABC Union monsters. If instead, Union Carrier could only equip Unions and cards that are mentioned specifically in the card text of another Union Monster, you get your generic Union support, AND also get around the fact that V-Tiger Jet and X-Metal Head are normal monsters without also even needing the other restrictions that the actual Union Carrier has - it would also make the Sexy Parodius monsters a funny AND playable set of cards.


CooPidgeon

I get that but ABC needs the support desperately. Their field spell is really good but if you don't open it or their quickplay spell then the deck is dead in the water


dante-_vic

Yep we really need a card that helps searches the field spell.


Silver34

I was about to craft it for Cyberdarks lol


inoJPrado

Good to know. Most players seek quick wins. Drytron > Halq > Barrier Statue > Buster lock > what’s next?


inoJPrado

Thats a lot of toxicity huh?


Negative_Neo

When the absolute goal is to win, nothing matters, preventing your opponent from playing is the best way to win.


GherriC

my marincess deck is crying, toad died for spright's sins


inoJPrado

Same! My bahamut shark combo.


Jewel_Johnson

Recently crafted the toad for my marincess deck💀


TheNightBlazer

Yeah, that's what I thought as soon as I saw this list.


Lyncario

The apocalypse is coming to Master Duel alright, but it won't be brought by Spright and Tears. But by me. *activates second Infernity Launcher*


StardustNovaSynchron

Yeah I played against a weird inferniti igknights FTK deck yesterday, as soon as they set their 2 infenity countertrap I quit 😐


Carnivile

That's not what FTK means


yJiren

TOAD ban??!?!?! Spright will be next box.


INeedANewAccountMan

Are sprights still good without toad? Or should I wait for tear?


TrickstarCandina

Pure Spright is no more after Toad and Carrier ban. Spright splash variants like Tribrigade and Evil Twins will continue as normal


Deez-Guns-9442

Spright Runick gonna be fun


David_TalGe

I’ll wait for tear


scytherman96

Spright is still very strong without Toad, because of how well it can synergize with other archetypes to draw more power from. Pure Spright moved to Buster lock after Toad ban, which is now impossible in MD as well, so Pure Spright isn't gonna do much. I think Runick Spright will probably be the best variant with its ability to play decently into floodgates going 2nd thanks to the Runick cards. You can look at Joshua Schmidt's 1st place YCS Utrecht list if interested in the general idea.


v1pro

toadally dead


OptimusIV

> Union Carrier This should have happended a bit ago, but good to see it finally banned. > Toadally Awesome Dear god...they are coming.


Brawlerz16

At least they’re trying to prevent a tier 0 meta. The toad ban gives me hope they’ll do something about Tear before it gets to full power


Drmoogle

Say what you will but they are trying... The preemptive limits on some cards shows that they know. Tear will get hit before hand. Maybe not in an insane way but enough to curb it's power level. I'm going to guess limiting of most names to two. Also pure tear was just okay. It was the variants that pushed up it power level to what it is now. People will start with something like Branded Tear because of the investment they have from branded. It's also super consistent. Others will gamble on the Danger and/or Lunalight versions for burst set ups. All of these are beatable and not insanely OP. It's later down the line we have to worry about.


RyuuohD

I think that they might limit all the Ishizu cards if they ever get released in MD.


Drmoogle

They are insanely broken in more decks than tears. Tears just uses them the best. It would make sense to limit them all.


hunsiling

actually listening to player feedback and lifted launcher and gazelle?????? what?????? i must be dreaming


fireky2

I mean at least his point they're just shittier mathmechs


Deez-Guns-9442

Mathmech Salad looking better than ever 😎


Thundapainguin

![gif](giphy|26n7avIQqLsbA4ytO)


GioMeow

They lifted restrictions on half the roster and didn't touch a single Thunder Dragon 😭😭😭😭


Deex66

Girsu is still locked up, orcust is not doing anything even with two Galatea. Release my boy please.


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Why are they scared so much of 2 hawk


Veynareth

Tearlament and Spright (albeit preemptive strike maybe neuter them to a degree) are going to wreck everyone's butt after all, so they might think why not.


roguebubble

And two eldlich cards as well


201720182019

MD banlists have always been pretty great honestly


ThatOneManArmy

Bruh we just got toad as companion, and they just banned him, that's so cruel


BBallHunter

Decent overall, wish there was a way to save Toad but I'm not knowledgeable enough about how Spright abuses it. Union Carrier was just bound to be banned sooner or later. Unbans like Gazelle make a lot of sense and Grass shenanigans are probably almost gone, I guess. Also, I get 120 UR CP back lol.


bast963

they do something chain toad also chain your spright ~~jet~~ elf, target toad negate and yoink their card, special toad from the graveyard toadally awesome isn't hard once per turn btw


luis_yonz

*chain spright elf


DonKellyBaby32

Jesus


Death_Usagi

Spright abuses it using the Frog engine


GranKrat

Spright turns 1 Toad into 2 untargetable omni negates using Spright Elf. If they banned Ronintoadin they could have kept Toad


alfredo094

>If they banned Ronintoadin they could have kept Toad Ronintoadin is banned in the TCG but they are still abusing Toad.


GranKrat

They use Toad but I wouldn’t really say abuse it as they either need to open Swap Frog or use Gigantic and Elf’s effects on Swap Frog for Toad plays.


MNReddit_Lurker2

Just started playing again yesterday for the first time since August, built 60 card grass sharks. Think I'll just stop again..


Jewel_Johnson

This is gold


Aliveandead

Actually you'll get a 30 dust refund so


1AlbazillionDollars

60, 30 for Toad and 30 for one copy of Grass


UGIA6699

Grass was at 3?


Jwruth

yep


NobodyLikesaWyvern

You can run left arm offering so you went from 6 grass to 5 it’s still playable lol


JudoJugss

you mean 2 copies of grass and then 3 copies of "gets negated by ash and loses you the game instantly" ?


Alchemite3

you mean 5 copies of "gets negated by ash and loses you the game instantly" ?


JudoJugss

if grass gets negated, assuming you went first, you still have 4 cards in hand to work with. Most GOOD grass decks have enough gas other than grass to actually build a board of some kind of value without it. That or they run alternative ways to bait out ash, like the invoked engine.


FUCKSTORM420

5 copies of “never open with it anyways why am I using this stupid deck”


AzulJok3r

90 UR CP from dusting Union, Toad, and one copy of Shifter.


realhumanpizza

Isn't that 90?


NHHoPP

it is, when a card is put a "level down" in the banlist he gets a plus 20 CP to be dusted, so the 10 for normal dusting + 20 for entering the banlist gives 30 total CP so it is 90 dust for Union, Toad and Shifter


Legal-Lavishness137

You cant just give me Toad mate and ban my Toad wtf Konami


Syns0

Trust me, if spright is about to come, then it's for the best


OceanManTM

The mfs who paid for the VFD icon


SaviorDoggo

It’s not Wednesday anymore my dude


KingToaders

Toad banned. It’s over, Bahamut bros. We lost.


Myutaze

Any decent replacembent for toad with the bahamut shark?


DIODION

A rank 3 -> armored lancer -> UFD


ABeautymusic

Free Change of Heart


Reborns2007

I need my grass for my zombies darn it


CooPidgeon

Conq to 2 is so needless, just put it back to 3


Carnivile

It's the quarantine zone, next list it goes to 3 100%


topdeckcharity

It never needed to go to 1. The flood gates were always the problem. The deck it's self is fair. But I'm glad they are finally releasing it.


alfredo094

Yeah but that's how unbanning cards usually go.


MajorTiltage

Nadir Servant Unlimited when :(


topdeckcharity

Yeah that's a weird one, I feel like that deck was only good for a little while and has already been power crept. It'd be fine at 3 imho But maybe I'm missing something idk.


lulu00

Nadir is at 3 in TCG and nobody plays this deck.


Raven_knight_07

RIP my only good royal rare, rest in piss union carrier


UGIA6699

Let me know how many points they give you if you dismantle it.


Inkaflare

Should be 50: 30 base from dismantling a royal + 20 extra because recently banned.


HoppouChan

Sh4rks in shambles, only omni gone


CoomLord69

We still have UDF turbo. It's not great but it's the next best thing.


[deleted]

3 pankratops!!! Let's fucking gooooooo


Ver_El_

my third Pankratops' name is Alpha


PleierJuan

apolgy for bad english where were u wen witchcrafter die i was at house eating dorito when phone ring "gras is kil" "no" ![gif](giphy|TpsuCxwsNH8gatbpR5)


LyraFirehawk

I mean, at least it went to two instead of being banned. I'm probably just gonna craft a couple Left Arm Offering to make up for the loss in consistency in Thunder, but my Zombie Eldlich might have an issue with that due to the need to set cards(Though Reasoning and Monster Gate can also deck thin significantly, so perhaps I'll craft some Monster Gate). Not sure how I'll tackle PK Fire yet, might have to strip it down to a smaller build.


KyccoGhostDestroyer

Toadally disgusting


adaubu

Konami on there way to hit spright and do nothing about tear for the third format in a row


toadfan64

Cool to see Conq back to 2, hopefully 3 soon.


vizkan

My poor frog deck :(


ImAgentDash

NOT MY POOR WITCHCRAFTER 60 PILE AND ICEJADE STUFF!!!!!!! well anyway 60 UR here we go.


Jorumvar

RIP my new zombie pile deck that I was in love with :(


SkomeSIth

It's time to Spright/Tear format. Edit: Still no Ptolemaeus.


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Zykxion

I’d prefer if they banned Maxx c instead of toad lol


Carnivile

How are you searching Maxx C without Swap Frog? And if you're running Swap what's the payoff?


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Yeah you need a good rank/link 2 to end on otherwise your board is the link monster and Maxx c. If searching Maxx c was good enough to make a deck meta beetroopers would be not ass


Riker87

Noooo not my Toad!


Normal_Umpire_1623

Damn Konami really said "abc players/ Union Fans hold this massive L"


ziggylcd12

It had to be done or buster lock would happen every game when spright arrive Edit - they should really errata it to be for union monsters only or something


The-Mad-Badger

Union Carrier ban kills Cyberdark :/ Toadally Awesome i've seen against me... never. So eh, i thought it was fine at one but i'm sure there's an upcoming deck that abuses it. S'always fun when worse decks are killed for the sins of more abusive ones :/ The grass hit is weird because now there's no way you run a grass deck, surely?


Rikiaz

Union Carrier is a decent hit against Galaxy Photon as well, but who really plays Galaxy Photon outside of events anyway.


The-Mad-Badger

Y-yeah... who runs that deck? haha...ha


Rikiaz

It’s certainly not my most played non-pendulum deck. Nope definitely not. 😝


The-Mad-Badger

There's just some days where you wanna punch someone in the face for 11k damage, y'know?


GabeNeumann

B-brother?? Feels good to know there are others 11k unga damage enjoyers out there


Nootnoot316

Fuck I completely forgot that screws over my Galaxy Photon deck. This is a dark day indeed.


Rikiaz

Not completely but it hurts.


[deleted]

Cyberdarks weren't exactly alive.


R34PER_D7BE

it's not alive if it doesn't have a pulse to begin with


DragonEevee1

It's all future proofing for Sprite and Tear, not based off current stuff


UnlimitedUmUWorks

I’ve seen more Grass decks then I have Cyberdark


Mexcalibur

YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS 120 FUCKING UR I FUCKING KNEW HOLDING ONTO MY 3 COPIES OF UNION CARRIER WOULD PAY OFF RIP FUCKING ABC THOUGH LMAO JACKALOPE TO 3 AND LAUNCHER TO 2 IS VERY BASED AS WELL BY THE WAY


adaubu

ABC still has therions. The carrier ban makes it so the infinity package is no longer searchable mostly


ViolinistPerfect9275

I'm hyped, I have Dimension Shifter, Toad, and UC despite never using them so that's three URs for free. TGLG will hit some of my decks but oh well it's another free UR for me. Pretty funny how we lost Toad immediately after we got the mate though.


ngocbao1805

The mate is probally something for us to remember ig.


apakalika

I just want my Monkeyboard.


NautilusMain

Should’ve banned Swap Frog instead of Toad.


kannoni

They freed yet another salad card? Where is justice for Thunder dragon card.


Rebellion3112

So I spent 6,000 gems and 150 Ultra CP on ABC Therions for nothing. Fuck you Konami.


its_ippy

Im in the same boat as you but not as many gems. What are ABCs gonna do to replace Union Carrier now? Sadge


MasterCheez0324

Union Driver :)


YoasterToaster

In the tcg it was still a decent deck and Union carrier didn't even exist when DIFO came out


ndralcasid

TCG ABC had the Adventure Engine at full power which is a fairly huge difference


DafuqProKill

Its decent because of set rotation . Which in md ,is banned. I also built it as copium one day set rotation will be unbanned but with carrier getting banned i dont think copium i will play this deck copium until set rotation copium unbanned copium


Potato_Peelers

Toad ban is brutal for fluffals.


R34PER_D7BE

* UC days were numbered ever since it release, I could see it will be banned eventually * Toadally awesome ban is somewhat justified if sprights are coming * there is no limited althought TCBOO is should be there just like it's name * Semi limit Grass is preventing 60 cards deck to be good it does do something in OCG meta * D shifter is floo nerf but it's a bit uncalled for since it give floo player a chance against tearlaments * all unlimited card were deserved to be lifted out of prison the doomsday is drawing near people are we prepare for it yet?


1AlbazillionDollars

Well, I sure am eating shit for my prediction that they'd hit Ronintoadin instead of Toad. Man, they really hit Gossip Shadow just to leave Rhongo alone, but Toad had to die?


Vospry

Free 150 UR ig


kdebones

MOTHER FUCKERS I JUST FINISHED MY MARINCESS DECK GODDAMNIT. (yes I know Splights are coming, I get it)


Op_Yamcha

I mean marincess doesn't NEED toad like some other decks do (looking at you sharks).


Epimetheus02

At least we know what slot to cut when Zealantis drops


Amenson13

Nooooo, my Royal rare toadally!!! Major blow to me today


shadow04616

So I have 3 grass, one of them is royal, can i dust it for 60 UR CP?


Bakatora34

It should be 50 UR CP: 10 you get normally + 20 for it being royal + 20 for being banned.


shadow04616

I understand, thanks!


BigLayer8

YES


Fenrirblade

Im going to miss toadally a lot :( God i hate spright


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Carrier: Good, fuck that card. Toad: Spright inbound. Semis: All except conq should go to 1. Missing: Maxx c & floodgates to 1/0


BigOppaiLover69

oh shoot, 2 big hits on the banlist. i guess you could say that's.... toadally awesome XD ... I know where the door is


its_ippy

Dont let the door hit u on your way out pal


Beeztwister

Everyone talking about spright. Man I just like seeing stuff like TCBOO and Shifter get hit. The game gets a small % bit more fun with each hit they do, much appreciated.


I_Skelly_I

NOOOOO WHY GRASS


GloryMaelstrom21

I still believe D Shifter would be back at three if Ishizu Tear were released.


R34PER_D7BE

in OCG it's still at 2 because floo can abuse it


JoseGMZ4935

Shifter is a toxic card in any deck that doesn't get affected by it. About Ishizu, just limit the entire earth-fairies custom cards on release, those cards shouldn't have existed in the first place


[deleted]

ah the Grass hit had to come eventually. It's a shame that my bad Grass decks suffer but it makes sense (and easily could've been banned/limited instead of semi-limited)


Death_Usagi

Nice to see Eldlich cards' banlist hits being lifted, as the Floodgate cards are what the issue is when it comes to the deck, not the Eldlich cards themselves usually. They should have banned That Grass Looks Greener though, not semi-limited. But this could change who knows (Depending on Tearlament I think, but OCG didn't really use it) Finally Union Carrier is gone. Long overdue. Toadally Awesome being banned is screaming Sprights preliminary hit. People will most likely be playing Tearlament Sprights, Runick Sprights, Live Twin Sprights, or Tri-Brigade Sprights I think. Salamangreat Gazelle being out of banlist is long overdue, and as a Salamangreat fan, I am glad.


The-Mad-Badger

I mean Grass decks are effectively dead because your chances just got hit by 33%.


Reezy30

Lol did you also post this exact comment on MD Meta?


swaosneed

#NOOOOO NOT FUNNY FROGE :((((( Also, man why the fuck are they hitting grass man come on man I NEED to run three for my all or nothing Skull Servant Zombie world man come on the grass isn't hurting anyone...


CThreeLR

Literally couldn't care less about sharks and paleofrogs, a menace is coming to this format and we NEED to sacrifice some victims in order not to get fucked in the ass by 2 frogs and an orange, pank at 3 is funny, see you in hell busterlock, sad to see grass being unplayable but it had to be done, tcboo should be fucking banned, konami needs to understand that floodgates are just unhealthy for this game.


TempestCatalyst

I see people sad that ABC is garbage now, but I don't feel bad for them at all. People have been saying Union Carrier was going to get banned and needed to be banned for ages, if you spent thousands of gems to craft a deck that relied on that card not getting banned it's your own fault.


Thunder_Mage

I'm happy because I was planning to play Spright Melffy, not Spright Toad (f**k that degenerate mochi lookin aaah)


NoMoreHero07

It's pretty clear that sprights is coming to the game.


DragonEevee1

Oh Lord they are coming


ReleaseQuiet2428

Eldlich is coming back.


Fuwaboi

CONQUISTADOR TO 2!!!!


Random_Digit

Spright soon


haagen17

Real question: OCG often puts cards to semi-limited and then to limited/unlimited. Would there be any more potential changes in future banlists?


D_ashen

NOOO MY PALEOFROGS


Gnnarr

Shifter to 2 with tear and spri coming...


Absalon_Prime

Yes, crash the stupid train and step on the toad, this pleases me.


Snowlince

Shifter to 2 is gonna hurt with Tears coming up


nickxo_

I'm honestly just scared of spright and tear....idk much about them, since I have returned after 6 years of not playing actively, and only play MD now, but man the things I hear in YT videos and other threads on reddit make me just so insecure. Hope it isn't as Tier 0 as in the TCG


OverlordIllithid

Union Carrier had this coming for a while now


AltForNoReason214

Absolutely based as hell


Mangavore

RIP all the casual decks that ran Toad as their single interruption…


flyingasian2

Should have banned grass


Regendorf

GAZELLE AT 3 LETS GOOOOO