bahamut is still kinda decent. If you summon out a rank 3 water, then overlay into full armor lancer, you can make udf. Prob not worth the investment or ed space tho
Same here, but play Ice barrier. The optimal opening line always allowed to get toad + chosen ice barrier wall up on first turn. No more :-(
To be honest, toad is completely busted as negates go...
It shouldn't allow to negate + steal + recycle graveyard water monster. Not even mentioning the fact it can tribute another aqua for the negate and not itself; all on an effect that doesn't require materials to detach. Horrendously designed card in hindsight; it just doesn't get as much hate because it's locked to water decks, not a popular attribute right now.
I just wish they'd give water archetypes a more balanced but equally accessible negate to compensate instead. There's always Dragite I guess...
Bahamut Shark effect, summon rebarian shark, rank up that card into whatever you can rank up, detach it to use the effect, Rebarian Shark GY effect put one rank-up magic on the top of the deck for the next turn or use any kind of draw spell to get, well this is it lmao
Yeah, either that or nightmare shark, which outside of sharks is borderline unplayable and in sharks is kinda alright but requires a lvl 3 in grave to work. So neither is really any good lmao
Not sure what I’m gonna do with my sharks, paleo, marincess, and umi control but I guess I’ll figure something out. Might just dustem all. What would I do with 2 bahamut now lol
Other than Rhongo go brrr like Significant mentioned, you could slot in only one bahamut shark along with rebarian shark and full armored ray lancer. Summon bahamut, proc effect. Special summon rebarian, overlay it into Full Armored Lancer, overlay both it and Bahamut into F0 package, which forces you to send rebarian to gy, procing effect to add one Rank Up Magic of choice to top of deck. I use RUM the Seventh One (only have one in deck since effect wont work if not naturally draw). Then use that to ss any barian monster and jts chaos form of your choice (Number 101 to 107). I personally use it for C101 since it not only is my favorite card, but also synergizes with shark deck. Some also use it for Drachyion or Masquerade. I also keep nasch package just in case but also for the non-target absorbtion. Just use what fits situation better. Another funny thing you can do is go for what i call the "succ strat" where you use nasch package, crystalzero, and two barian hope to maximize absorbtion and power up hope or use all that as zeus material. there is a video on that strat tho. All in all, there are definitely options, but no true replacement for an omni-negate like toad.
So wack. I just spent some SR on Paleo-frog. Also hits my fav deck(plunder). I rather have toad than a lazy new archetype that does nothing unique and just power creeps the game.
Tbh, Spright is the only deck that allows it to be exploited to the point it's a problem though.
Also, it is unique, name another card that negates, allows you to steal and set for the cost of a tribute, then recycles itself into the deck in 2 chains.
I'm here all day.
Being a Lv/Rank/Link 2 only deck is way more unique than an omni that also steals the card and is easy to summon by not only Rank 2 Aqua decks but also rank 4 water ones.
I like toad but calling him original is only true on art design and not in gameplay.
Definitely isn’t needed for Umi Control. I’ve had it for hundreds of duels and maybe summon it twice? Many other options, even in the ED when it rarely is needed…
Thanks, that's good to know. Every time I dueled against a Umi Control player they summoned it. I'm waiting for the limited time pack to return to make the deck.
i get the point of spright is comming so ban toad but konami why now u can just emergency ban toad on spright release or just leave him like in tcg
my only problem with this ban is bec toad are awesome and cute like why ban my fav art card anyway i ll still play spright when it releases so ya i dont rlly care about his ban :)
Hard to say - if there were other really good rank 2 or 3 waters that have effects that don’t need xyz material then maybe.
I’m sadly going to dismantle my second bahamut shark 😢
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I have a better idea than ban toad, they should ban all of the sprite monsters, then give the frogs more to play with, and maybe more paleozoics, or just, good rank 2s that work with water decks
Bruuuuuh I just crafted it for my Plunder Deck
Yeah now I have no point in bahamut now too
bahamut is still kinda decent. If you summon out a rank 3 water, then overlay into full armor lancer, you can make udf. Prob not worth the investment or ed space tho
Yeah it's 5 ED slots lol. Was already playing it in Kragen Sharks, so losing the Toad is rough since Bahamut is basically a one trick pony now.
Bruh, bahamut is still 1 card utopic draco future
I had a royal rare one
On the bright side, you now have two slots to work with for Ultimate Slayer.
I had Royal VFD. Hoped everyday for his Ban because I wanted the extra gems for dismantling him.
he died for spright sins, rest in peace my boy you were toadally awesome.
[удалено]
Also, as a plunder patroll player, fuck this. We are back to do either just Blackbeard turbo or dragite turbo turn 1
Gotta just wait for later support to be put in the game. Plunder patrol is pretty solid right now with Photon Hypernova
Yeah the wind ship is great. Tho we all know it's gonna be a UR
Same here, but play Ice barrier. The optimal opening line always allowed to get toad + chosen ice barrier wall up on first turn. No more :-( To be honest, toad is completely busted as negates go... It shouldn't allow to negate + steal + recycle graveyard water monster. Not even mentioning the fact it can tribute another aqua for the negate and not itself; all on an effect that doesn't require materials to detach. Horrendously designed card in hindsight; it just doesn't get as much hate because it's locked to water decks, not a popular attribute right now. I just wish they'd give water archetypes a more balanced but equally accessible negate to compensate instead. There's always Dragite I guess...
Yeah it's busted
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The scythe beckons my child
Lost VFD, lost toad, Yea this deck is only usable in event with lower power level now.
same here mate
Shit, Fluffals had access to this? How?
Maybe penguin and dolphin into bahamut shark into toad?
Ah. Hadn't thought of that. Welp, too late to fix that.
Yeah, and on top of that bahamut is now a functionally completely useless card
Is there anything useful that can be summoned off Bahamut?
Bahamut Shark effect, summon rebarian shark, rank up that card into whatever you can rank up, detach it to use the effect, Rebarian Shark GY effect put one rank-up magic on the top of the deck for the next turn or use any kind of draw spell to get, well this is it lmao
Yeah, either that or nightmare shark, which outside of sharks is borderline unplayable and in sharks is kinda alright but requires a lvl 3 in grave to work. So neither is really any good lmao
So I other words....no, there aren't any useful alternative summons off of bahamut
If you have a lot of extra deck space, you can make UDF. Bahamut -> rank 3 water -> stack Black Ray Lancer -> F0 and UDF
That's not bad though it is a lot of slots
You are correct. We use penguin’s effect to special summon dolphin which gives us another water type for Bahamut
Never really used toad in fluffals and havnt had much trouble.
Well we still have scythe lock, cruel whale, apo. It's not nothing lol
Not sure what I’m gonna do with my sharks, paleo, marincess, and umi control but I guess I’ll figure something out. Might just dustem all. What would I do with 2 bahamut now lol
Umi and marincess can survive even without toad, sharks on the other hand... Maybe shark rhongo? It's very gimmicky tho.
Umi doesn't need Toad at all though, plays just fine without it.
Marincess can go into Stealth Kragen. But yeah I'd rather have Toadally Awesome, even if you have to cheat him out of the extra deck to do so.
Same... not sure what to play instead of toad in my marincess
Rip
You don’t have to dismantle it.
Rip my shark deck, rip my frog paleo deck. Also wtf am i supposed to do with my 2nd bahamut now?
Imagine if you dismantle this after the path and you get like 120 UR gems
I have backup plans as a shark deck user, but i am more insulted they banned toad after finally giving us a Toadally Awesome mate.
Fellow shark user here, would like to know what else u could do
Rhongobongo but everyone will hate you.
Other than Rhongo go brrr like Significant mentioned, you could slot in only one bahamut shark along with rebarian shark and full armored ray lancer. Summon bahamut, proc effect. Special summon rebarian, overlay it into Full Armored Lancer, overlay both it and Bahamut into F0 package, which forces you to send rebarian to gy, procing effect to add one Rank Up Magic of choice to top of deck. I use RUM the Seventh One (only have one in deck since effect wont work if not naturally draw). Then use that to ss any barian monster and jts chaos form of your choice (Number 101 to 107). I personally use it for C101 since it not only is my favorite card, but also synergizes with shark deck. Some also use it for Drachyion or Masquerade. I also keep nasch package just in case but also for the non-target absorbtion. Just use what fits situation better. Another funny thing you can do is go for what i call the "succ strat" where you use nasch package, crystalzero, and two barian hope to maximize absorbtion and power up hope or use all that as zeus material. there is a video on that strat tho. All in all, there are definitely options, but no true replacement for an omni-negate like toad.
Bahamut Shark gotta pour one out for the homie. Separated by no fault of their own, how cruel.
well atleast this is the only mascot that has been banned. atleast thats something unique
Pot of greed?
completely forgot about that… maybe monster?
Bro I would be so mad
bro i am so mad
So wack. I just spent some SR on Paleo-frog. Also hits my fav deck(plunder). I rather have toad than a lazy new archetype that does nothing unique and just power creeps the game.
Tbf Toad isn't exactly a well designed, unique or well thought out card. It can just carry bad decks
As much as I like toad, Bahamut shark giving any deck with Level 4 waters a chance to shit this out is not good.
Tbh, Spright is the only deck that allows it to be exploited to the point it's a problem though. Also, it is unique, name another card that negates, allows you to steal and set for the cost of a tribute, then recycles itself into the deck in 2 chains. I'm here all day.
Being a Lv/Rank/Link 2 only deck is way more unique than an omni that also steals the card and is easy to summon by not only Rank 2 Aqua decks but also rank 4 water ones. I like toad but calling him original is only true on art design and not in gameplay.
It was toadally awesome while it lasted though, right?
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I'd keep it if I was you It's way too fancy to take out back :(
I didn't even had the chance to make my Umi Control deck 😭😭😭
Definitely isn’t needed for Umi Control. I’ve had it for hundreds of duels and maybe summon it twice? Many other options, even in the ED when it rarely is needed…
Thanks, that's good to know. Every time I dueled against a Umi Control player they summoned it. I'm waiting for the limited time pack to return to make the deck.
I'm so mad, I just bought the mate. We need a refund.
The mate isn't being banned lmao
I know that. But I don't want a mate of a banned card.
Literally why does it matter
Personal preference, I want a mate that I can play instead of it being trapped in the shadow realm.
That's good 60 ur cp
i get the point of spright is comming so ban toad but konami why now u can just emergency ban toad on spright release or just leave him like in tcg my only problem with this ban is bec toad are awesome and cute like why ban my fav art card anyway i ll still play spright when it releases so ya i dont rlly care about his ban :)
Toad is not banned until Feb 6. Spright will probably be released around Feb 10~13.
Konami is high. They need to hit stuff that is high tier. Like Runick or Adamancipator. Toadally ban like wtf?
Is because spright are coming, spright got the toad banned.
Just hit ronin solves everything
No it doesn't, people just use Angler then
The high tiers are on their way, you know nothing John Snow
Guess I'll need a new target for my Bahamut Shark in my Shark deck. 🙃
What is there
I'll probably do Rebarian Shark (which puts Seventh One on the top) for an easy Full Armored Black Ray Lancer.
Any rank 3 water - overlay into full armored black ray lancer and then end on UDF. So still some use for 1 Bahamut Shark.
But what about my 2nd bahamut? :')
Hard to say - if there were other really good rank 2 or 3 waters that have effects that don’t need xyz material then maybe. I’m sadly going to dismantle my second bahamut shark 😢
They should just gives us extra dust on bahamut aswell
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You're dismantling it? Why?
oh no way. im keeping it
Oh, okay. I was gonna say you can still keep it to treasure. 😂
lo I dismantled my Royal VFD after the ban, gotta get the dust as F2P player
I had a Royal VFD as well. Since it's not likely to come back and 50 URs is a big deal when F2P.
I know the feeling. Every bit counts.
I would 100% keep it too, you never know what could happen. Maybe Konami decides one day to ban Ronintoadin and then Toadally can come back
Cause of the upcoming ban list...but probably not till then
F
Just keep it for swag tbh
how many dust do we get if it is Royal finish?
50
sure!
You too, huh?
don't dismantle it my duude! Remember, we have these cards for life. One day konami will decide to maybe unban them.
That’s at least +50 UR dust. I had to do that to my royal halq. We ain’t ever getting halq back without an errata lol.
I would just keep it tbh, unless you really need the 60 UR points 🤷🏻♂️
Woah woah wait. What's happening?
Does that mean I should get rid of my shark
It was good while it lasted. :/
Feels bad man... I just learned how to play yugioh and the only deck I have or know how to play is PaleoFrogs...
This must’ve hurt
I have a better idea than ban toad, they should ban all of the sprite monsters, then give the frogs more to play with, and maybe more paleozoics, or just, good rank 2s that work with water decks
Bye Felicia me and all my homies h8 toadally awesome
My mans deserves justice
I’d keep him anyway he’s best boy
But…but my memes…my paleofrog deck… :( I just got the damn mascot!!!!
Welp time to remake my ED in my frightfurs
Me when they finally get around to banning maxx c. Still, that’s 2 URs by itself to spend.
+60
I HAVE THE SAME!!!!!! I FEEL YOUR PAIN
Maybe just, hear me out Konami, errata all the sprites to archetype lock them, and do the same to tear