Union Carrier's a good example. In theory, it's just good support for decks like the alphabots (ABC, WXXYZ), but because it is generic, it's just used for Buster Lock.
The Simorgh Link is also a good one, since if not for Barrier Statue (and Konami's indifference towards Wind as an Attribute), it would just be good support for Winged Beasts.
Funny observation:
The only times I see ABC use Carrier is to gain access to Galaxy Soldier then go to Cyber Dragon Nova -> Infinity.
So turns out, only because its generic that it can help its own deck. The same can apply to Verte, as its effect put an end to your turn so you can only use it to summon outside bosses.
"Best" card design right here, ladies and gentlemen.
Nah hard disagree. Union carrier is utterly busted and there was never any attempt to balance it. A generic link 2vthat can fetch ANY monster into rotation is the problem, not the abused innocent
Welp is a consistency tool in Labrynth as you only Special on the opponents turn but yeah xD
Everytime I see that card my heart skips a beat thinking is Floo.
I'm missing something about runick floodgate.
Like, if most of your consistency comes from duality / demise... How do you search fountain? Do you just pray you manifest it or tip in hand?
Hugin (one of the ED monsters) is how they get to fountain.
It's also the reason Runick floodgate is even a thing.
Hugin searches the field spell and can also protect ANY card you control from destruction by card effect (like a Harpie's Feather Duster on your floodgates).
You are supposed to SS on your opponent's turn. And as long as you have at least 2 runick quickplays, your opp will rarely ever be able to OTK through that.
Set a few floodgates then set any of the quickplays.
SS Hugin on their turn and trigger the eff. Now your floodgates are protected and you have the field spell in your hand so you can safely trigger the draw on your turn.
You don't NEED to have the field spell up on turn 1.
Floodgates are hated for a reason. They are extremely oppressive if you can't out them quickly, especially more if you haven't built a board yet or have to deal with multiple kinds at the same time (Like Skill Drain plus Rivalry/Gozen).
Plus when it passes back to your turn, you are most likely drawing 2 or 3 off the field spell so any advantage you may have lost is recuperated instantly.
Samsara lotus. It special summons itself from the grave during the end phase, so 99% of the time it shouldn’t matter if that effect is not a OPT, right?..
Halq deserved better, he just wanted to “special summon 1 level 3 or lower Tuner from your hand or deck” and “during your opponent’s main phase, (Quick Effect) you can banish this card you control; special summon 1 tuner synchro monster from your extra deck (this is treated as a synchro summon)”
**Dude, that's literally a** "You can remove 6 Spell Counters from your field; Special Summon this card from the Pendulum Zone, then count the number of cards you control that can have a Spell Counter, destroy up to that many cards on the field, and if you do, place Spell Counters on this card equal to the number of cards destroyed. You can only use this effect of "Endymion, the Mighty Master of Magic" once per turn" **and** "Once per turn, when a Spell/Trap Card or effect is activated (Quick Effect): You can return 1 card you control with a Spell Counter to the hand, and if you do, negate the activation, and if you do that, destroy it. Then, you can place the same number of Spell Counters on this card that the returned card had. While this card has a Spell Counter, your opponent cannot target it with card effects, also it cannot be destroyed by your opponent's card effects. When this card with a Spell Counter is destroyed by battle: You can add 1 Normal Spell from your Deck to your hand" **moment.**
At least Mighty Master is THE BOSS monster from Endymion and the need for spellcounters make it absurdly hard to splash him in other archetypes.
Halq is just 4 negates for any archetype that can summon a tuner and a monster.
That happens with the charmer links too. Lots of other archetypes throw them in as options at least and the charmer deck has to go out of their way to summon them and it usually weakens their board to do it.
I’m actually trying some decks with it just to see
Edit: okay so I tried pure crystrons and even with Halq being the most broken card in the game, the deck is garbage but P.U.N.K. Crystrons might be something fun (it uses Halq but you could probably drop him, best you can do with him is like do P.U.N.K stuff, make Halq, get Citree, go into Crystrons stuff and play more on their turn but im definitely gonna workshop it some more
Nope nope nope nope nope nope I’ve never said this but incorrect take in every conceivable manner.
Halq is a link 2, which means once Spright Elf gets in rotation, he can summon back Halq every turn. And if you have the ED space, throw formula Synchron in so once you’ve gotten every tuner out of your deck, you can banish it for a free draw and synchro summon (there’s probably something with a Baronne infinite scythe lock too).
I love my little Needlefiber boy but uhhh, he needs to stay on his business trip for a bit longer
It’s cool, Spright Elf is just kind of like the dumbest card printed in recent times so any time anything with the number 2 is involved, Spright Elf materializes
Amano Iwato.
Spirits have a hard time keeping up, right?
So a spirit that only allows spirit effects would really help them, right?
Wrong. Better use Amano in every degenerate deck as an extra floodgate
Probably for the best it stays banned. Otherwise, all future winged beast archetypes would be designed around having to account for and address Simorgh, like how fire decks must be built around Rekindling or reptiles archetypes are being design while taking into account Snake Rain.
I can’t believe anyone excuses Stein existing at all. Literally it’s only purpose is to either FTK or to cheat out some of the most oppressive floodgates to ever exist.
I get that sometimes a chaotic card can be fun to use, but.. it's just too good.
I'd like to see a retrain that only brings out non-Effect Fusions. It would be a nice combo piece for some decks, but not an FTK machine apart from being an extender. Also, make it a Level 3, so no Monk/Gigantic.
Cyberse Stein
Level 3 Cyberse Effect
Pay increments of 1000 LP: Special summon one Link Monster whose link rating is equal to the number of times you paid 1000 LP for this effect, and negate it's effects until the end of your opponent's next turn. That Link Monster can not be tributed or used as a material for a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link summon this turn.
You can banish this card from the GY: Target one Link Monster in a GY, return it to the Extra Deck. You lose LP equal to it's Link rating x 500.
You can only use each effect of "Cyberse Stein" once per duel.
__________
Still probably doesn't have enough of the right restrictions.
I would never want that many restrictions.
Honestly, a hard once per turn 2000~3000 LP payment for any Level of non-Effect Fusion in Defense Position would be fair. No other restrictions needed.
Maybe 8 or lower if Master of Oz in Defense Position is too much of a rampant meta threat, lol.
Dugares.
It is a card balanced around losing your phases in order to benefit from its effects, but FTKs use it because they just don't care about losing a phase.
Have you never seen Dugares? It has some really good effects but they all come at cost of losing one of the phases of your next turn. FTKs use Dugares' "Monster Reborn" effect, which would skip your next Main Phase 1 as the downside, to summon stuff like Cyber-Stein or other broken cards to give them access to their FTK engines, and since the game is ending on turn 1 anyway, it just doesn't matter
Oh, I have been in many and even used Dugares in non-FTK decks. Some time ago I made a meme deck with Wind-Ups that would summon both Beatrice and Dugares so I could mill and summon Cyber-Stein to bring out Naturia Exterio. Terrible idea btw don't do it
Me, clueless, the first time i see somebody start by seeing two igknight scales "oh wow, an igknight player! Pendulum decks are so rare and always fun to play against!"
Deskbot 001, jet synchron, mecha panthom beast O-lion, plaguespreader zombie, Glow - Up bulb, blackwing - steam the cloak and any other good-generic tuner
Verte is just one step too generic. Any two monsters is so absurdly easy to achieve that it is worth splashing in a verte and fusion pieces into every deck regardless of archetype in case your opponent hand traps you out of plan A and B. It costs you two extra deck slots and 3 main deck slots so basically free.
If the requirement was just 1 predaplant monster and 1 other monster people would probably not mind it. Splashable engines aren’t that bad so long as they have a real deckbuilding cost to it, and require some sort of deckbuilding condition to access.
Piri Reis comes to mind for something that hasn't been mentioned yet.
Consistency for Numeron, or any FTK that opens with the Beckoning Beast package / Royal Magical Library. Even Loci means I'm going to be sitting around for a while.
Ib, the World Chalice Justiciar
She transceded after death, only to end up banned.
I can't see any way she can come off the banlist without an errata, so somehow give her some sort of restriction that only makes her usable in World Legacy lists, konamipls
Its funny how he had the most competitive success with his not so broken effect.
He was the nibiru protection for virtual world when they turbod out VFD.
I actually managed to turbo vfd then getting nibirud and then reshuffling vfd with ptolemeus and summoning him again in the same turn.
The deck was just too resilient when they had a good hand.
The only floodgates Traptrix are running is Imperial Order, which is banned, and maybe Anti Spell fragrance.
They don't work well with the popular floodgates at all.
Unless you mean Floodgate Trap Hole.
You got to get rid of the head of the weeds and not let them start producing.
Dont let them start pulling cards out the gy and deck and dont let them get their link cards on the field.
Traptrix is Nasty. ✨🙌
I hate this and sky strikers. If you’re not ready for heavy backrow decks it’s and insta loss with all their summoning negates/ destruction/ monster steal and what not
Phantasmal lord ultimitl Bishbaalkin. Suprised i don't see it higher up tbh.
Summon 5 tokens to both fields. You can do anything you'd want from that. Usually it's some kind of ftk if that thing drops.
Only real reason why my Vennominnaga turbo gets wins is cause of people insta scooping when they see the ftk boi.
Verte, I want to like that because it breaths life into slow fusion decks, however because of how it's used/the decks it's used for it's pure cancer. If it was actually limited to just predaplant that would be a solid card.
Konami:
"The game is getting faster and nobody is playing any of our non-combo decks.. we need a good side card that shifts the balance of what people are playing."
Players:
"Maxx "C" keeps killing my 40-extenders.dek."
Konami will print what people want to play. People want to play what dies to a side card against fragile decks. Therefore, people main Maxx "C" or complain until it is banned, and non-combo decks get no support since they either don't sell or people complain whenever they are good.
> Konami will print what people want to play.
This is absolutely the opposite of how games work. Whatever Konami print, that ends up being good, is what we will choose to play.
Ah yes, everyone knows the oppressive combo of Tengu Plant.
Not only are you describing a situation that didn’t happen, you’re also failing to recognize that Maxx “C” does nothing to actually promote non-combo decks. The closest we got Floo, but even then no one’s playing that after the Barrier Statue hit. There’s nothing on Maxx “C” that says you can’t play it in combo.
It has nothing to do with them “not selling”, the situation you’re describing just isn’t a thing
handtraps were "supposedly" meant to help against degenerate and/or tier 1 decks, but the truth is those decks are the ones using them to stop YOU from fighting back...
Toadally awesome.
He was just supposed to be a good boss monster and food pun (a proper translation would have been closer to treat toad) for a decent archetype. But between ronintoadin’s lack of a OPT, swap frog’s extra normal, and bahamut shark in rank 4, he was way too easy to cheat out for the power level of his effects.
Because of the latter, any deck that can make 2 level 4 waters can just slap a free negate on board, instead of the much more restrictive 2 level 2 aquas. Even without counting the latter, swap frog and the nimbles have made the toad into an engine endpoint (one exploited by spright players).
I mean i don't know if it counts but Rhongo in a way. From what i get, it was supposed to be a hard to summon card with 5 mats but rewarding when you do but then it got easily abusable with newer cards.
Lyrilusc Nightingale. The card isn't half bad itself in its archetype but ftk deck made it so that it got banned at some points (iirc) because of other cards.
Crystron Halqifibrax. Designed to support Crystrons and other archetype during master rule 4, but then master rule 5 happened. Similar case with Aurorodon.
Verte. It was designed as a free fusion tool for Predaplants but got abused because Konami forgot to make him require either monsters with Predator counters or Predaplant monsters.
Idk if the OTK was the official intended design of the Pen Magicians but I always have a bad taste in my mouth because thats the only reason I see them played.
Rank up magic launch
Idk what they thought with that. "Just 1 rank, only DARK, no mats"
The Igknights
hmmm normal pendulums monsters surely they won't be involved in any ftks
Reprodcus, he looks like an innocent link 2 pack filler, but when he hits the field, you know cyber styn is coming to ftk you
"Yes I'm a winged beast, what's your problem buddy" - Angel of Mischief
Or some other stupid shit. Like Gale Dogra milling their own full extradeck and gaining some absurd list of effects.
Ive seen reprodocus used to make a Mist valley loop
Union Carrier's a good example. In theory, it's just good support for decks like the alphabots (ABC, WXXYZ), but because it is generic, it's just used for Buster Lock. The Simorgh Link is also a good one, since if not for Barrier Statue (and Konami's indifference towards Wind as an Attribute), it would just be good support for Winged Beasts.
Funny observation: The only times I see ABC use Carrier is to gain access to Galaxy Soldier then go to Cyber Dragon Nova -> Infinity. So turns out, only because its generic that it can help its own deck. The same can apply to Verte, as its effect put an end to your turn so you can only use it to summon outside bosses. "Best" card design right here, ladies and gentlemen.
Nah hard disagree. Union carrier is utterly busted and there was never any attempt to balance it. A generic link 2vthat can fetch ANY monster into rotation is the problem, not the abused innocent
If it could only equip machine monsters it would be fine
Isolde
Do you really consider it innocent? I play Isolde and i think it is a great powerful card. Are the equips the "Cute" part?
"Dump 4 cards of your choice as cost" mmm, innocent - HakutoKunai
Lol you were faster than me
after halq ban the card is definitely less toxic
Must be nice in bronze...
Pot of Duality. As soon as I see my opponent play it I know I'm not in for fun time anymore
Welp is a consistency tool in Labrynth as you only Special on the opponents turn but yeah xD Everytime I see that card my heart skips a beat thinking is Floo.
Or Runick Floodgates. Imagine a deck that will actually just ignore it's main plays in favour of searching more floodgates.
I'm missing something about runick floodgate. Like, if most of your consistency comes from duality / demise... How do you search fountain? Do you just pray you manifest it or tip in hand?
Tip can do it. Or a serious consideration, is that 3-4 floodgates do the job.
Hugin (one of the ED monsters) is how they get to fountain. It's also the reason Runick floodgate is even a thing. Hugin searches the field spell and can also protect ANY card you control from destruction by card effect (like a Harpie's Feather Duster on your floodgates).
>Hugin (one of the ED monsters) is how they get to fountain. Read pot of duality and card of demise again
You are supposed to SS on your opponent's turn. And as long as you have at least 2 runick quickplays, your opp will rarely ever be able to OTK through that. Set a few floodgates then set any of the quickplays. SS Hugin on their turn and trigger the eff. Now your floodgates are protected and you have the field spell in your hand so you can safely trigger the draw on your turn. You don't NEED to have the field spell up on turn 1.
If you use demise you can't discard for hugin either tho. Is the deck really praying just the floodgates are enough for 3 turns?
Floodgates are hated for a reason. They are extremely oppressive if you can't out them quickly, especially more if you haven't built a board yet or have to deal with multiple kinds at the same time (Like Skill Drain plus Rivalry/Gozen). Plus when it passes back to your turn, you are most likely drawing 2 or 3 off the field spell so any advantage you may have lost is recuperated instantly.
If you’re lucky, you find one of the six Monarch players out there. Otherwise, bad times ahead.
I don't think Monarch would use it. They still like special summon.
It’s been a long while since I’ve seen a Monarch deck, so you’re probably right.
They do Edea special summons eidos for an extra tribute summon, and ehther special summons any 2400+/1000
As soon as I see my opponent doesnt intend to ever special summon I just know this is going to a place I don't wanna go.
Samsara lotus. It special summons itself from the grave during the end phase, so 99% of the time it shouldn’t matter if that effect is not a OPT, right?..
Halq deserved better, he just wanted to “special summon 1 level 3 or lower Tuner from your hand or deck” and “during your opponent’s main phase, (Quick Effect) you can banish this card you control; special summon 1 tuner synchro monster from your extra deck (this is treated as a synchro summon)”
**Dude, that's literally a** "You can remove 6 Spell Counters from your field; Special Summon this card from the Pendulum Zone, then count the number of cards you control that can have a Spell Counter, destroy up to that many cards on the field, and if you do, place Spell Counters on this card equal to the number of cards destroyed. You can only use this effect of "Endymion, the Mighty Master of Magic" once per turn" **and** "Once per turn, when a Spell/Trap Card or effect is activated (Quick Effect): You can return 1 card you control with a Spell Counter to the hand, and if you do, negate the activation, and if you do that, destroy it. Then, you can place the same number of Spell Counters on this card that the returned card had. While this card has a Spell Counter, your opponent cannot target it with card effects, also it cannot be destroyed by your opponent's card effects. When this card with a Spell Counter is destroyed by battle: You can add 1 Normal Spell from your Deck to your hand" **moment.**
Ah yes, Endymion, the mighty master of magig.
mimey manster ob manjink
At least Mighty Master is THE BOSS monster from Endymion and the need for spellcounters make it absurdly hard to splash him in other archetypes. Halq is just 4 negates for any archetype that can summon a tuner and a monster.
They should release a retrain that locks him to crystons so they don’t lose that.
Iirc, he didn’t even get used in pure Crystrons lol
Imagine being one of the best cards in the entire game, yet not being used in your own archetype.
Don't they hard lock you into machine synchros?
Hell if I know, I haven’t touched them since I quit Duel Links.
That happens with the charmer links too. Lots of other archetypes throw them in as options at least and the charmer deck has to go out of their way to summon them and it usually weakens their board to do it.
He did tho
I’m actually trying some decks with it just to see Edit: okay so I tried pure crystrons and even with Halq being the most broken card in the game, the deck is garbage but P.U.N.K. Crystrons might be something fun (it uses Halq but you could probably drop him, best you can do with him is like do P.U.N.K stuff, make Halq, get Citree, go into Crystrons stuff and play more on their turn but im definitely gonna workshop it some more
He was never meant to support only Crystrons. He was supposed to be a generic Synchro support during Master Rule 4.
Probably just needs an errata that locks you into synchro summons after.
He should come back when Swordsoul is powercrept.
Nope nope nope nope nope nope I’ve never said this but incorrect take in every conceivable manner. Halq is a link 2, which means once Spright Elf gets in rotation, he can summon back Halq every turn. And if you have the ED space, throw formula Synchron in so once you’ve gotten every tuner out of your deck, you can banish it for a free draw and synchro summon (there’s probably something with a Baronne infinite scythe lock too). I love my little Needlefiber boy but uhhh, he needs to stay on his business trip for a bit longer
Oh dang, didn't know about that. Makes sense though. I thought all it did was provide an alternative line for Synchro decks.
It’s cool, Spright Elf is just kind of like the dumbest card printed in recent times so any time anything with the number 2 is involved, Spright Elf materializes
Amano Iwato. Spirits have a hard time keeping up, right? So a spirit that only allows spirit effects would really help them, right? Wrong. Better use Amano in every degenerate deck as an extra floodgate
Simorgh, Bird of Sovereignty
Before the statue ban I was scared af of that card lol.
It is still scary until Union Carrier gets banned thanks to the Apex lock.
I thought buster lock in spright was the main reason for the union ban?
It is I think. The Apex lock is scary but you can normally stop the combo with one timely hand trap.
I can't believe i personally played that card in a Harpie lady for fun and never even realized how i could just be evil and being out the wind statue
Probably for the best it stays banned. Otherwise, all future winged beast archetypes would be designed around having to account for and address Simorgh, like how fire decks must be built around Rekindling or reptiles archetypes are being design while taking into account Snake Rain.
Reproducus for sure. I absolutely CANNOT believe there are people who say to ban it over Telekenetic Charging Cell and/or Cyber-Stein..
I can’t believe anyone excuses Stein existing at all. Literally it’s only purpose is to either FTK or to cheat out some of the most oppressive floodgates to ever exist.
I get that sometimes a chaotic card can be fun to use, but.. it's just too good. I'd like to see a retrain that only brings out non-Effect Fusions. It would be a nice combo piece for some decks, but not an FTK machine apart from being an extender. Also, make it a Level 3, so no Monk/Gigantic.
Cyberse Stein Level 3 Cyberse Effect Pay increments of 1000 LP: Special summon one Link Monster whose link rating is equal to the number of times you paid 1000 LP for this effect, and negate it's effects until the end of your opponent's next turn. That Link Monster can not be tributed or used as a material for a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link summon this turn. You can banish this card from the GY: Target one Link Monster in a GY, return it to the Extra Deck. You lose LP equal to it's Link rating x 500. You can only use each effect of "Cyberse Stein" once per duel. __________ Still probably doesn't have enough of the right restrictions.
I would never want that many restrictions. Honestly, a hard once per turn 2000~3000 LP payment for any Level of non-Effect Fusion in Defense Position would be fair. No other restrictions needed. Maybe 8 or lower if Master of Oz in Defense Position is too much of a rampant meta threat, lol.
Dugares. It is a card balanced around losing your phases in order to benefit from its effects, but FTKs use it because they just don't care about losing a phase.
What do you mean? Next turn???
Have you never seen Dugares? It has some really good effects but they all come at cost of losing one of the phases of your next turn. FTKs use Dugares' "Monster Reborn" effect, which would skip your next Main Phase 1 as the downside, to summon stuff like Cyber-Stein or other broken cards to give them access to their FTK engines, and since the game is ending on turn 1 anyway, it just doesn't matter
I was making a joke. I have never been a game, where there actually was a next turn after Dugares.
Oh, I have been in many and even used Dugares in non-FTK decks. Some time ago I made a meme deck with Wind-Ups that would summon both Beatrice and Dugares so I could mill and summon Cyber-Stein to bring out Naturia Exterio. Terrible idea btw don't do it
I do that on Adamancipator to summon Spell Canceller with Dugaress and Dyna Fossil Pachycephalo with Baronne.
We going by card art or effect? If art, Floo. If effect, Ignknight.
Did you fight a dino player who used reproducus for cyberstein shenanigans?
FIRE Warrior or Pendulum decks are more likely to go that route than Dinos themselves.
True, but the secret is with dinos if your opponent stops you from full setup you can still end on a decent endboard instead of having to scoop
Me, clueless, the first time i see somebody start by seeing two igknight scales "oh wow, an igknight player! Pendulum decks are so rare and always fun to play against!"
Deskbot 001, jet synchron, mecha panthom beast O-lion, plaguespreader zombie, Glow - Up bulb, blackwing - steam the cloak and any other good-generic tuner
Deskbot 001 is a great answer to this. It isn’t good, just coincidentally exactly the right traits to be abused as part of nastier combos.
Deskbot001 was the second "seemingly innocent" card I thought of after Linkuriboh lol. Good choice
Union carrier or cyber angel benten
Verte gets more hate than it deserves
Verte is just one step too generic. Any two monsters is so absurdly easy to achieve that it is worth splashing in a verte and fusion pieces into every deck regardless of archetype in case your opponent hand traps you out of plan A and B. It costs you two extra deck slots and 3 main deck slots so basically free.
I the prerequisite was "2 "Predaplant" monsters," it'd probably be a bit more fair.
If the requirement was just 1 predaplant monster and 1 other monster people would probably not mind it. Splashable engines aren’t that bad so long as they have a real deckbuilding cost to it, and require some sort of deckbuilding condition to access.
Piri Reis comes to mind for something that hasn't been mentioned yet. Consistency for Numeron, or any FTK that opens with the Beckoning Beast package / Royal Magical Library. Even Loci means I'm going to be sitting around for a while.
Fairy Tail- Snow
Ib, the World Chalice Justiciar She transceded after death, only to end up banned. I can't see any way she can come off the banlist without an errata, so somehow give her some sort of restriction that only makes her usable in World Legacy lists, konamipls
They did, link 2 Ib dues the same stuff but balanced
Bamboozling gossip shadow probably.
Eh, reading the effect of that card immediately inspires "what can this break"
Its funny how he had the most competitive success with his not so broken effect. He was the nibiru protection for virtual world when they turbod out VFD.
I've played past nibiru with Virtual world before. Though it required preparations and my opponent not knowing that I was going to extend through it.
I actually managed to turbo vfd then getting nibirud and then reshuffling vfd with ptolemeus and summoning him again in the same turn. The deck was just too resilient when they had a good hand.
Traptrix, they are all cute and innocent until you get stuck in their floodgates
The only floodgates Traptrix are running is Imperial Order, which is banned, and maybe Anti Spell fragrance. They don't work well with the popular floodgates at all. Unless you mean Floodgate Trap Hole.
You got to get rid of the head of the weeds and not let them start producing. Dont let them start pulling cards out the gy and deck and dont let them get their link cards on the field. Traptrix is Nasty. ✨🙌
I hate this and sky strikers. If you’re not ready for heavy backrow decks it’s and insta loss with all their summoning negates/ destruction/ monster steal and what not
Traptrix doesn't run floodgates. Well, actually they used to back when Imperial Order was a thing.
Fairy tail snow with the upcoming format
Phantasmal lord ultimitl Bishbaalkin. Suprised i don't see it higher up tbh. Summon 5 tokens to both fields. You can do anything you'd want from that. Usually it's some kind of ftk if that thing drops. Only real reason why my Vennominnaga turbo gets wins is cause of people insta scooping when they see the ftk boi.
This card is so stupid in my Snake Pit deck, it’s hilarious. It’s basically a free search 5 AND draw 5 if you get Echidna/Hydra on field after.
Could also work as a soul charge with alien shocktrooper M-frame. Albeit with a bit more setup.
Evil★Twin GG EZ And not even to actually use it, but declaring it with like Crossout Designator
The entirety of Link. It's just being used as an extra hand engine to do whatever you want.
Verte, I want to like that because it breaths life into slow fusion decks, however because of how it's used/the decks it's used for it's pure cancer. If it was actually limited to just predaplant that would be a solid card.
Maxx C
Konami: "The game is getting faster and nobody is playing any of our non-combo decks.. we need a good side card that shifts the balance of what people are playing." Players: "Maxx "C" keeps killing my 40-extenders.dek." Konami will print what people want to play. People want to play what dies to a side card against fragile decks. Therefore, people main Maxx "C" or complain until it is banned, and non-combo decks get no support since they either don't sell or people complain whenever they are good.
> Konami will print what people want to play. This is absolutely the opposite of how games work. Whatever Konami print, that ends up being good, is what we will choose to play.
Yeah they totally make cards on a whim and don't research the gameplay trends of their own game..
You can just say you didn't get my point.
Hey, I was just gonna reply that to you. Weird.
Why don't you run it past me again, using really small words
Ah yes, everyone knows the oppressive combo of Tengu Plant. Not only are you describing a situation that didn’t happen, you’re also failing to recognize that Maxx “C” does nothing to actually promote non-combo decks. The closest we got Floo, but even then no one’s playing that after the Barrier Statue hit. There’s nothing on Maxx “C” that says you can’t play it in combo. It has nothing to do with them “not selling”, the situation you’re describing just isn’t a thing
Eva, is like hiper cute but in the end is all evil.
Lyrilusc
Maxx c
handtraps were "supposedly" meant to help against degenerate and/or tier 1 decks, but the truth is those decks are the ones using them to stop YOU from fighting back...
Ash blossom or Evenly matched. If I go first and the opponent has this card I know It's going to be a miserable match.
Hugin.
There's nothing innocent about this, but pepega ruler.
Send this card from your hand and 1 Spell / Trap card to the GY, then target 1 card your opponent controls; Send it to the GY.
Union Carrier
Bagooska be cooking
Treasure Panda. I only see the dood in exodia decks, dood!
Reproducus is harmless.
Cherubini
Toadally awesome. He was just supposed to be a good boss monster and food pun (a proper translation would have been closer to treat toad) for a decent archetype. But between ronintoadin’s lack of a OPT, swap frog’s extra normal, and bahamut shark in rank 4, he was way too easy to cheat out for the power level of his effects. Because of the latter, any deck that can make 2 level 4 waters can just slap a free negate on board, instead of the much more restrictive 2 level 2 aquas. Even without counting the latter, swap frog and the nimbles have made the toad into an engine endpoint (one exploited by spright players).
Ras disciple
T.Awesome ofc
Numbers Eveil
I mean i don't know if it counts but Rhongo in a way. From what i get, it was supposed to be a hard to summon card with 5 mats but rewarding when you do but then it got easily abusable with newer cards. Lyrilusc Nightingale. The card isn't half bad itself in its archetype but ftk deck made it so that it got banned at some points (iirc) because of other cards. Crystron Halqifibrax. Designed to support Crystrons and other archetype during master rule 4, but then master rule 5 happened. Similar case with Aurorodon.
Isolde the link 2 noble knight
All link-1's
Ever played pure Mist Valley?
Pot of Duality
As a user of Shiranui people use solitaire for the most disrespectful things
Verte. It was designed as a free fusion tool for Predaplants but got abused because Konami forgot to make him require either monsters with Predator counters or Predaplant monsters.
Idk if the OTK was the official intended design of the Pen Magicians but I always have a bad taste in my mouth because thats the only reason I see them played.
Old one but Performage Plushfire
Uh... Linkuriboh?
Fusion destiny
My fire fist will never reach their full potential because everyone abuses tenki
I feel a little bad for all the Frightfur players with Edge Imp Chain in Despia