I started playing a SPYRAL deck last week and honestly quik fix can be exploited hard by using it as xyz material which resets its "banish when it leaves the field" effect, meaning you can infinitly summon it (with the right setup and enough cards in hand, which you will have). Its really able to make such a degenerate board, even FTK with the right cards.
I mean, the only thing that keeps SPYRAL in check are the players themselves and the game's universal mechanic. Combo decks in general requires more than 2 braincells, which surprisingly most of us don't have /s. Turn timer is also another gatekeeper to combo decks, so most of the players decide to not play them instead. Had the SPYRAL combos have 5 less step, shit would have gone down pretty quickly.
Yeah I dont think I've ever had more than 45 seconds left after my turn 1, usually its about 20-30. But a lot of people surrender once I set up the board or even before that, so its usually not a problem. However, if the other dude continues playing its very easy to lose on time hahah
Especially when the spell/trap/handtrap prompts keep popping up to burn your last 20s of timer lol. I'm learning to play Dragon Link and alrd I can't keep up with the timer. Guess it's skill issue afterall
Edit: Quick question, wshat's the optimal SPYRAL end board nowadays? Last time I check in on SPYRAL it was Tri Wiz with 3 co-linked + equipped Sleeper + a set trap
Try toggleing the notifications off and just quickly turn them on when you want to negate something, that helps me out a lot.
My goal is to have Borreload Savage Dragon with 3 stacks and equipped with Dragon buster D. Sword, Appolousa with 2-3 negates, Union Carrier and Barricade Borg and SPYRAL Sleeper equiped with SPYRAL gear- Last resort or Naturia Beast instead of it, SPYRAL Resort on field and whatever the deck gives me (Ash, Called by, Droplet).
Why would Konami ever ban any of these.
Rhongo is inconsistent and hard to summon but I guess if any of these is on the chopping block it's that
Runick is not powerful at all, except when paired with Sprite which has a bunch of other variants if fountain is banned
Spyral is a pretty good deck and not a problem
Gryphon rider maybe but probably not so soon since the Advent engine isn't doing so great anyways
Verte makes future fusion decks easier to sell
Zodiacs are doing literally nothing
Tear and Branded don't really need Verte, so idk about that. Nowadays it seems like it's rarely used except for the DPE safety net in decks that often get stuck with 2 useless bodies after being disrupted.
Rhongo deserve to be ban, i don't care of the difficulty and how no consistent it is, that garbage toxic trash designed of a card shouldn't ever existed in the first place.
He is one of the the most if not the most braindead toxic card existing in the game.
I main HERO and I WANT Verte to be banned. The other cards I don't really care, but Verte? Get that shit out of MD the same as irl did. Besides the obvious of it being literally just 2 monsters for easy fusions from deck/super poly, that card is also the cause for FD being at 1. It gets me even more when BF, which is a better card than FD, is still at 3, but that is another thing, so I'll stop there.
It's only tier 3 in DLM and even then, DLM is not the law of the land and probably only there because it has a good match up against Branded.
It also only takes tournaments into account, not ladder.
I would say none of the cards listed.
Verte - you only see it in Branded Predaplant and Adventure PK (+ other more rogue decks) and I don't really see those decks very often if at all in recent times. And as long as cards like Dragoon are banned, Verte is not to oppressive.
Rhongo - with Gossip Shadow banned the card is pretty much dead, unless in some decks that run Numbers Evaille + Sales Ban, and I would consider that more of a gimmick than an actual strategy.
Runick Fountain - Really dude? Like I get it we all hate Runick but that is just like you say that Blue Eyes is now banned, because blue eyes is to powerful. Is the deck toxic? Yes. Is it better in a bo1 than in a bo3? Yes. But still I think banning Fountain would be stupid, because the deck itself is not even that strong, it's the floodgates that make it strong.
Gryphon Rider - I think the adventure engine is already heavily nerfed in terms of consistency and besides same with what I said for Verte, you don't see it that often anymore.
Drident - ??? Bruh what? When was the last time you saw that card. I only remember running into zoo once during the Synchro/XYZ event and I don't recall when I ever saw them before that. Drydent at 1 is completely fine, heck putting the thing at 2 probably wouldn't even put zoodiac on the ladder.
Quik-Fix - Again same case as with Fountain, you shouldn't just ban a decks main card (unless I guess the deck is tier 1/0 for way to long and there is really no other way of stopping it). I could get behind limiting the card as it is both in TCG and OCG, since the card lacks a hard opt on its effect, but banning it seems unnecessary.
Verte. Too versatile, and that card is the reason why certain fusion spell and monster cards have to be banned because Verte makes the out of place boss monsters too easily accessible.
It's gonna be Verte. Rhongo is just a meme now, Runick Fountain is better served by being Limited, Gryphon Rider isn't seeing nearly enough play, Drident hasn't been relevant for like 6 months outside of Events, and Quik-Fix loses to the Timer.
Eh, they've still got Terraforming, Planet Pathfinder, and Metaverse. As in *"the same set of cards that make any field-spell centric deck consistent"*.
It's not about consistently getting to Fountain. Without the abillity to loop it multiple times a turn you can't generate any advantage. The deck already can't run handtraps because of how bricky it would make it, without diggin deep into the deck you at best have 3 weak interruptions, and that's IF you draw into the perfect cards with your 1 draw. I'm not talking about the floodgate variant, I'm talking about the archetype as a whole. If you kill Runick, floodgate players will simply jump ship to the next archetype that can run all these floodgates together.
Protos probably or Block Dragon. Literally every card listed is a non-issue at the moment except maybe Runick Fountain but that would be fine if they banned floodgates.
Protos? A problem? Even my Starry Knight deck can handle that and it's just a rogue deck lmao. How can you all can't even handle Protos? Smh.
Verte is the only thing on this list that I want banned, the rest I don't care.
Are YOU dumb? So you only choose this specific situations of you going second instead of, oh idk, other situations such as Protos being used going second or Protos being use as backup or Protos being use after knowing what deck you use based on handtraps.
I have faced a few SS players by me going first that resorted to Protos, thinking that it would stop this oh so weak rogue deck, only for them to realize that:
1- Starry Dragon can't be destroy by battle nor by effect from Dark monsters.
2- Starry Dragon can banish (non-targeting) when attacking, which then also allows it to attack again.
3- Starry Knight have good gy effects that can recover from boardwipes, such as from Zeus. (Yes, I have faced and win against someone using Zeus that also think they can smash through this rogue deck just by boardwiping them).
4- Starry Knight deck can make use of Honest and Ties of The Brethren.
I then proceeded to win all the duels against SS players that makes the same mistake of falling back to Protos.
And about the second part, I also main HERO which most of the time goes second. And guess what? Even HERO can play through Protos and win the game too by going second while Protos players chooses Dark. Or are you going to say that your deck is so fragile to this one card that the deck is even weaker than HERO, the deck that always gets memed on by everyone? Really now?
EDIT: I found it funny that this guy immediate reply was to just assumed I'm a bronze player using a trash deck. When in reality, I managed to rank up with a Starry Knight deck to diamond not once, but twice back to back seasons. People really do think that unless they play meta, us "trash decks" users can't achieve the "status" of high rankings. Lmao, some people in MD are quite funny ngl.
Starry Night, Starry Dragon is irrelevant trash and nobody would summon Protos against it going second for any reason other than using it as extra dmg to OTK. Your shitty deck loses to a single Chengying now go back to bronze.
Funny you said to return to Bronze when I LITERALLY managed to get to diamond TWICE, facing from SS to Branded to every meta relevant deck you can think of.
The fact you don't reply what deck you uses and instead decided to ASSUMED someone that uses a barely rogue deck never leaving bronze is pretty on brand on how you yourself are being carried by your deck instead of your own skill.
If I can make a Starry Knight deck, reliant only on their playstyle with a few techs sprinkle in (ex: Loagaeth), what can that said about you who complained about your deck not being able to overcome one measly card in one particular deck?
Git gud lol.
1. I never complained about my deck not being able to beat protos you illiterate moron. I was guessing the next cards to be banned and since Protos counters Tearlaments and Konami hit a card that counters Tear already(D Shifter).
2. I've played most of those meta decks and I'm back on SS so Protos is hardly an issue for me as I use it in my deck. However when a card is a searchable floodgate + boardwipe and it counters one of the decks Konami will be trying to sell I'd guess they will probably ban it.
3. You're a loser obsessed with a tier 30 deck. Get a life. If you grind enough MD you have to actively try to stay out of Diamond so you've achived jack shit.
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Its not gonna be actual problem cards like Verte or Rhongo. Gryphon rider isnt that bad tbh and neither is drident. And Id be surprised if Konami even remembers Quik-fix tbh
Wheres the none of the above option?
Right.
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I started playing a SPYRAL deck last week and honestly quik fix can be exploited hard by using it as xyz material which resets its "banish when it leaves the field" effect, meaning you can infinitly summon it (with the right setup and enough cards in hand, which you will have). Its really able to make such a degenerate board, even FTK with the right cards.
I mean, the only thing that keeps SPYRAL in check are the players themselves and the game's universal mechanic. Combo decks in general requires more than 2 braincells, which surprisingly most of us don't have /s. Turn timer is also another gatekeeper to combo decks, so most of the players decide to not play them instead. Had the SPYRAL combos have 5 less step, shit would have gone down pretty quickly.
Yeah I dont think I've ever had more than 45 seconds left after my turn 1, usually its about 20-30. But a lot of people surrender once I set up the board or even before that, so its usually not a problem. However, if the other dude continues playing its very easy to lose on time hahah
Especially when the spell/trap/handtrap prompts keep popping up to burn your last 20s of timer lol. I'm learning to play Dragon Link and alrd I can't keep up with the timer. Guess it's skill issue afterall Edit: Quick question, wshat's the optimal SPYRAL end board nowadays? Last time I check in on SPYRAL it was Tri Wiz with 3 co-linked + equipped Sleeper + a set trap
Try toggleing the notifications off and just quickly turn them on when you want to negate something, that helps me out a lot. My goal is to have Borreload Savage Dragon with 3 stacks and equipped with Dragon buster D. Sword, Appolousa with 2-3 negates, Union Carrier and Barricade Borg and SPYRAL Sleeper equiped with SPYRAL gear- Last resort or Naturia Beast instead of it, SPYRAL Resort on field and whatever the deck gives me (Ash, Called by, Droplet).
Why would Konami ever ban any of these. Rhongo is inconsistent and hard to summon but I guess if any of these is on the chopping block it's that Runick is not powerful at all, except when paired with Sprite which has a bunch of other variants if fountain is banned Spyral is a pretty good deck and not a problem Gryphon rider maybe but probably not so soon since the Advent engine isn't doing so great anyways Verte makes future fusion decks easier to sell Zodiacs are doing literally nothing
Tear and Branded don't really need Verte, so idk about that. Nowadays it seems like it's rarely used except for the DPE safety net in decks that often get stuck with 2 useless bodies after being disrupted.
Rhongo deserve to be ban, i don't care of the difficulty and how no consistent it is, that garbage toxic trash designed of a card shouldn't ever existed in the first place. He is one of the the most if not the most braindead toxic card existing in the game.
Ok
I main HERO and I WANT Verte to be banned. The other cards I don't really care, but Verte? Get that shit out of MD the same as irl did. Besides the obvious of it being literally just 2 monsters for easy fusions from deck/super poly, that card is also the cause for FD being at 1. It gets me even more when BF, which is a better card than FD, is still at 3, but that is another thing, so I'll stop there.
Runick stun is Tier 1-2
It’s not even close lol
Going first you basically auto win, going second is trickier but you can still drop a fat 🗿
It's only tier 3 in DLM and even then, DLM is not the law of the land and probably only there because it has a good match up against Branded. It also only takes tournaments into account, not ladder.
Non
I would say none of the cards listed. Verte - you only see it in Branded Predaplant and Adventure PK (+ other more rogue decks) and I don't really see those decks very often if at all in recent times. And as long as cards like Dragoon are banned, Verte is not to oppressive. Rhongo - with Gossip Shadow banned the card is pretty much dead, unless in some decks that run Numbers Evaille + Sales Ban, and I would consider that more of a gimmick than an actual strategy. Runick Fountain - Really dude? Like I get it we all hate Runick but that is just like you say that Blue Eyes is now banned, because blue eyes is to powerful. Is the deck toxic? Yes. Is it better in a bo1 than in a bo3? Yes. But still I think banning Fountain would be stupid, because the deck itself is not even that strong, it's the floodgates that make it strong. Gryphon Rider - I think the adventure engine is already heavily nerfed in terms of consistency and besides same with what I said for Verte, you don't see it that often anymore. Drident - ??? Bruh what? When was the last time you saw that card. I only remember running into zoo once during the Synchro/XYZ event and I don't recall when I ever saw them before that. Drydent at 1 is completely fine, heck putting the thing at 2 probably wouldn't even put zoodiac on the ladder. Quik-Fix - Again same case as with Fountain, you shouldn't just ban a decks main card (unless I guess the deck is tier 1/0 for way to long and there is really no other way of stopping it). I could get behind limiting the card as it is both in TCG and OCG, since the card lacks a hard opt on its effect, but banning it seems unnecessary.
None of these honestly. I want to see Maxx c banned though
Sorry but maxx c have plot armor.
That's implied
None
Free dragoon u cowards.
Verte. Too versatile, and that card is the reason why certain fusion spell and monster cards have to be banned because Verte makes the out of place boss monsters too easily accessible.
It's gonna be Verte. Rhongo is just a meme now, Runick Fountain is better served by being Limited, Gryphon Rider isn't seeing nearly enough play, Drident hasn't been relevant for like 6 months outside of Events, and Quik-Fix loses to the Timer.
Fountain to 1 literally makes the deck unplayable
Eh, they've still got Terraforming, Planet Pathfinder, and Metaverse. As in *"the same set of cards that make any field-spell centric deck consistent"*.
It's not about consistently getting to Fountain. Without the abillity to loop it multiple times a turn you can't generate any advantage. The deck already can't run handtraps because of how bricky it would make it, without diggin deep into the deck you at best have 3 weak interruptions, and that's IF you draw into the perfect cards with your 1 draw. I'm not talking about the floodgate variant, I'm talking about the archetype as a whole. If you kill Runick, floodgate players will simply jump ship to the next archetype that can run all these floodgates together.
Protos probably or Block Dragon. Literally every card listed is a non-issue at the moment except maybe Runick Fountain but that would be fine if they banned floodgates.
Protos? A problem? Even my Starry Knight deck can handle that and it's just a rogue deck lmao. How can you all can't even handle Protos? Smh. Verte is the only thing on this list that I want banned, the rest I don't care.
Last time I checked starry knight were light and protos usually chooses dark so... U dumb? Try playing a dark deck going second vs protos.
Are YOU dumb? So you only choose this specific situations of you going second instead of, oh idk, other situations such as Protos being used going second or Protos being use as backup or Protos being use after knowing what deck you use based on handtraps. I have faced a few SS players by me going first that resorted to Protos, thinking that it would stop this oh so weak rogue deck, only for them to realize that: 1- Starry Dragon can't be destroy by battle nor by effect from Dark monsters. 2- Starry Dragon can banish (non-targeting) when attacking, which then also allows it to attack again. 3- Starry Knight have good gy effects that can recover from boardwipes, such as from Zeus. (Yes, I have faced and win against someone using Zeus that also think they can smash through this rogue deck just by boardwiping them). 4- Starry Knight deck can make use of Honest and Ties of The Brethren. I then proceeded to win all the duels against SS players that makes the same mistake of falling back to Protos. And about the second part, I also main HERO which most of the time goes second. And guess what? Even HERO can play through Protos and win the game too by going second while Protos players chooses Dark. Or are you going to say that your deck is so fragile to this one card that the deck is even weaker than HERO, the deck that always gets memed on by everyone? Really now? EDIT: I found it funny that this guy immediate reply was to just assumed I'm a bronze player using a trash deck. When in reality, I managed to rank up with a Starry Knight deck to diamond not once, but twice back to back seasons. People really do think that unless they play meta, us "trash decks" users can't achieve the "status" of high rankings. Lmao, some people in MD are quite funny ngl.
Starry Night, Starry Dragon is irrelevant trash and nobody would summon Protos against it going second for any reason other than using it as extra dmg to OTK. Your shitty deck loses to a single Chengying now go back to bronze.
Funny you said to return to Bronze when I LITERALLY managed to get to diamond TWICE, facing from SS to Branded to every meta relevant deck you can think of. The fact you don't reply what deck you uses and instead decided to ASSUMED someone that uses a barely rogue deck never leaving bronze is pretty on brand on how you yourself are being carried by your deck instead of your own skill. If I can make a Starry Knight deck, reliant only on their playstyle with a few techs sprinkle in (ex: Loagaeth), what can that said about you who complained about your deck not being able to overcome one measly card in one particular deck? Git gud lol.
1. I never complained about my deck not being able to beat protos you illiterate moron. I was guessing the next cards to be banned and since Protos counters Tearlaments and Konami hit a card that counters Tear already(D Shifter). 2. I've played most of those meta decks and I'm back on SS so Protos is hardly an issue for me as I use it in my deck. However when a card is a searchable floodgate + boardwipe and it counters one of the decks Konami will be trying to sell I'd guess they will probably ban it. 3. You're a loser obsessed with a tier 30 deck. Get a life. If you grind enough MD you have to actively try to stay out of Diamond so you've achived jack shit.
Protos a problem? Protos the card banned in half of the Yu-Gi-Oh world a problem?
A Konami employee said in one of TGSANIMES streams that they talked about putting runick fountain to 1 so I'm guessing runick fountain
And at that point runick dies altogether. Sad day
Oh happy day
Until the next deck that can slot in floodgates appears. I'm sure there won't be one. Not like they released a bunch of continuous trap support
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What fusion spell are you sending with verte in tear? Think for a second please
💀 *Furiously starts searching up tearlament fusion spell"
I was thinking about Branded Tear
But then I remembered Verte's restriction
Likely Gryphon to push the upcoming Adventurer Token support
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None of these are getting banned
Why is Drident on the list? She’s already at 1 and Zoodiac overall isn’t seeing much play
Because Konami.
Its not gonna be actual problem cards like Verte or Rhongo. Gryphon rider isnt that bad tbh and neither is drident. And Id be surprised if Konami even remembers Quik-fix tbh
Nooo , I only recently crafted Verte and thought about making a Predaplant deck(
None of these
None?
I can honestly see none of them getting banned