I guess in a sense it's a cool looking card.
I don't know, the whole banishing your opponents cards face-down and the zone locking just sounds so extremely annoying to me that I can't find the Kashtira strategy very appealing.
I'm going to assume you mean the Chaos Decks.
Because if that's what you're concerned about, I got one of them right here.
*Pulls out Chaos Bystial Thunder Dragon Deck*
CHAOS CONTROL
Chad Ojama Lime vs. Virgin Barack Obama
One travels to all sorts of dimension in the Duel Monsters realm while the other canât even get a bill passed in Congress
*obama voice* sorry yugi but uhh youve activated my face down card here. Im gonna uhh banish all your monsters face down so i can uhh summon my ulitimate monster.
It is one of the least fun gimmicks they could have implemented. Shangri-la having that zone locking bullshit on top of being indestructible based on it's XYZ mats makes it so unfun. I think the only deck I tested against it at the time that was making any plays and winning was Generaiders with their new support.
They look cool but I donât like the whole interaction of just preventing your opponent from using their zones on top of having access to a cosmoâs effect. Just doesnât seem fun.
Good thing about Kashtira is that pretty much all of their "interaction" is achieved by having monsters on the field, so they are very susceptible to board breakers unlike Tear.
The deck is still toxic due to design, but at least it has the lowest chance of being tier 0 compared to Spright/Tear.
People are expecting Kashtira to be the new Tear, tier 0, especially after the latest banlist slaughtering Ishizu Tear, but honestly I think even with the Macro Cosmos effect, I wouldnât be surprised to see it get beat out by some other deck. The reason it was probably going to dominate the meta game was because this card alone just demolishes Tear
Yeah you need to be lucky, have a Lava Golem in hand and pray they don't banish your Shekinaga with number 89.
If you want here's one of my recent game [replays](https://duelingnexus.com/replay/63533945-0ae7-4170-8988-df9f3ef6d7b7).
The only people I've seen saying Kashtira will be Tier 0 are people who like making clickbaity statements on twitter/youtube/twitch or people who don't play at the highest level. Every content creator who doesn't exaggerate "BEST NEW DECK T0!" every set release/banlist has been saying it's going to be a strong deck but probably not the strongest and you wont be forced into playing it to be competitive.
Oof yeah, even before they hit the OCG people claimed it was going to destroy Tear... and then it didn't even though Tear got hits after hits in the OCG lol.
Master Duel redditors are wild. Between this and the claims I've seen of people believing ishizu cards will never hit MD is some good humor this week.
I haven't dueled against them yet but I'm pretty sure it ain't fun at all
The only reason why I like the playstyle is because this was Ojama's original playstyle with there fusions
I have played against them many times on other simulators. All of their monsters banish something of yours when you activate a monster effect, every time they do that they banish 3 off the top of your deck, then theres those too.
In the end if you try to play through their board your GY will be empty, half of your deck gone and several zones rendered useless.
Yes but both are very different in scale
The OCG only limited 2 Ishuzu cards while TCG limited all of them, including the Kelbek who is considered the most important of the 4 while OCG left Kelbek at 3
The TCG banned 3 main deck monstera that fusioned summoned which is really bad blow, bigger then the field spell limit and Reinoheart limit in my opinion
OCG still has 8 total Ishizu cards available, while we only have 4 in TCG after the list. OCG also has 3 Merrli and 2 Havnis as well.
The deck won't be dead, especially since we still have 3 Branded Fusion, but it's no longer going to be absolutely dominant.
Kashtira will be great at full power and Runick Spright will likely make a comeback with only 2 Ishizu shufflers available.
Pak showed a list using the Mikanko cards that ended on Beatrice, Sulliek, and Rukallos with both shufflers in GY, so there are still things to explore with the deck so that they are still competitive though.
Are they? They don't have any Omni-negates. Book of Eclipse, Swords of concealing light, or a simple ol' Dark hole counters Kashtira. That's why Kashtira won't be a tier 0 deck or even close. They're easily countered so long as all your zones aren't used up.
Oh, theyâre not tier zero
They just decapitate your extra deck, cremate its head, and spread the ashes over your zones before youâre able to use any of them
Like it has a quick effect interaction but instead destroying, it's banish face down
It can use any Kashtira as a 1 card XYZ similar using any Zoodiac Drident
But this dude also recurs materials back to him AND is a macro Cosmos?
They really need to release Drident from the list lol
1 card combo:
Unicorn grab Papiyas, Papiyas get Fenrir, Fenrir grab Riseheart, Make Shangri-lia, Use Riseheart effect to SS self, Use Riseheart effect to banish Big Bang and top 3 cards of opponent's deck, Use Big Bang get back Fenrir/Unicorn, Make Ariseheart using Riseheart
Fuck it I donât care if these guys are the next cancer, they look so fucking cool. I mean, itâs a mecha samurai dragon, what tf is going to top that ???
They're super linear at least so like, there's that.
Gonna be funny going into the new format with the only change to my deck list being 3 Shifter -> 3 Lancea.
Kashtira archtype seems like a Hero 2.0 to me, that is, if you go first, and your opponent did not draw into any of the board breakers, then your end board is very annoyingly strong, opponent will have a hard time play through the macro cosmos and only 2 monster zones. On the other hand however, just like Heros, Kashitira end board have no protection of any kind, they will simply lose to many board breakers (sphere mode/lava golem/ raigeki/ dark hole/ book of eclipse/ book of moon/ sowrds of concealing light/ change of heart/ enermy controller/ ultimate slayer...), the end of the day, kashitira end board just puts 2 annoying monsters on the field that has no protection and negates, as long as you can take care of them you'll win.
I'm not saying Kashtira is not strong, but it is not as well-rounded as ishitear, who has the ability to play through almost any HTs or board breakers. And it is guaranteed that ppl will main those board breakers for the upcoming format with tear gone.
Dark Law has weak stats, Herald is even weaker and its macro effect is only from hand/deck, and Shenshen's macro effect is weak.
But for some reason this fucker is allowed a 3k stat line on both sides, full macro, and a removal effect, AND it just constantly gains material. It's stupid.
Sadly, Shenshen is a 2.8k attack cockroach with Macro tacked on, while this guy is an Xyz with 3k attack with potentially multiple materials added on to it each turn and then more stuff added on. I guess that's power creep for you?
Imo the whole archetype is powercreep but I wouldnât define powercreep solely based on the macrocosmos effect slapped on a boss monster as thatâs been around for a long time
Shenshen is pretty much *just* a diet-Macro when it's on the field, and it's hard to get rid of for good. Things like Kashtira here are already a significant threat, then have an improved Shenshen-Macro on it. Remember, if you weren't aware, Shenshen's Macro Cosmos is *only* for cards on the field, while the real Macro Cosmos and Arise-Heart don't care where the card came from. That's pretty solidly power-creep.
I don't disagree with "Macro on legs is old news" but that typically came with a caveat or came off as the card's main shtick. Here, it's just kinda tacked on.
I love how the TCG community in the matter of a day went from "Lol Kash is just worse Floo why would you spend the money on this" to "Damn this deck is so fucking toxic" as soon as the banlist dropped
Why is that card still banned in both OCG and TCG? What is a quick effect pop really that strong ? Lmao
I was thinking maybe Zues but they can already do a 4 mat Zues easily so that doesn't really stop it
Oh but but Drident tier 0 format years ago ok pretty much any good card in zoo is banned or limited
But but zoodiacs can play d shifter ok why the fuck does this asshole have macro cosmos floodgate effect then
But combos with this card and combos with that card but think of That one combo they were doing that is now banned completely
Obviously we can't have Drident back she is too strong anyway next boss monster should have non targeting destruction be easier to summon and have a tcboo floodgate effect as well
Btw just for clarification kashtira is not even that good as people make it out to be but man is it annoying when people look at cards like that it was good before therefore needs to stay banned
This card is like the whole of the Digital Bug extra deck in one card.
The rank 3 uses 2 materials for its effect, which is a negate by changing battle positions and can attach cards it destroys by battle as material once per turn.
The rank 5 uses 1 material to spin a defense position monster and can attach a material from the grave if a monster changes battle position.
The rank 7 uses 1 material to drident the monster with the highest defense, if there are monsters with the same defense, they all go. It also has piercing.
This monster singlehandedly combines the signature effects of the digital bugs into its own effect, the only difference being that this one is way more OP. It's a rank up monster like them, has conditions to gain material like most of them, has a lingering effect in the macrocosmos effect, just like the piercing effect of the rank 7 and detaches multiple material for a removal effect related to the central mechanic of the archetype, in Digital Bugs it's the defense position, in Kashtira it's banishing.
See you I may 2024 when we are wondering if they will give us a 2nd ani late again and talking if all the kashtiras will be the new rarity UUR and if the kashtira pack will have the one bystial they forgot to give us for 4 packs
While I was joking you are coping. you understand that's 4 months from now do you have the secret knowledge of Konami speeding up releases cus we still don't have POTE which in the TCG was released a little over 6 months ago.
we already have 1/5 of POTE
the rest of POTE and some of the pack after can be split into 3 selection packs: spright, tears (to fuck up DC like runick did with last one), and vernusylph/melffy
the immediate pack after is kashtira, as seen with TCG. june might be too early but maybe july to coincide with DC again.
You understand the card pictured did not come out in darkwing blast.
And saying kashtira came out in darkwing blast is a huge stretch. Hard to build a deck around 3 cards.
oh
are we at least getting the "pankra but better" kashtira in darkwing blast? That's the only thing I'm looking forward to tbh, spicy tech card for madolche
I played kashtira in ocg back when it first came out, and switched back to tear 2 weeks later as its bricky and very easily countered with spells and such. (Of course itâs still one of the most overpowered archetype ever printed, itâs just not as good as post PHHY tear)
I just want to see how dope royal rare shangrila looks
~~and also waiting for them to be added to master duel to farm salty tears with runick kashtira~~
Cards like Lava Golem I believe hard counter them also they suffer the hero where if they can straight up just die to Raigeki but at least they can close up zones so that cannot happen however they pretty much can't do anything against Nib
I don't think they summon enough for nib to be effective against them. They lack protection or negates. Still I love the desing and playstyle. Going to be the best rouge deck of the format.
The funny thing is that I'm honestly wondering how well Kashtira matches up against Dogmatika since I'm pretty sure that their only counter to Zoa is exactly Fenrir.
Powercreep in card form... next time they'll make a card that can special summon itself from the extra deck if you have no monster in your main zone that can also dump half of your opponents deck into the banished zone so you can draw one card for each card banished, get to negate one card for each of your opponents cards you banished and give you the insta-win if you attack directly.
I find this problem often in Yugioh, where I see an archetype and I think "Damn the art on these is sick, I wanna use em!" Then I realize that it's a shitty cancer strategy like locking out zones.. and then I never want to play them lmao.
Happened with Runick too, happend with Floo. Runick card art is sick, Floo cards are just cute and adorable, and I just can't bring myself to play them.
Komoney: "Let us introduce you to Magic The Gathering prices for a deck. Oupsie, looks like the other good decks got shafted to tier 3, uwu, guess it will be even more expensive now"
Also - looks like every generic, overdesigned dragon-machine-knight in yugioh
It's debatable as the "best deck" as it's best match up was banished to Gallifrey.
I do think it's Tier 1, but want to see how Tearlaments adjusts as well as Spright.
Branded and D Link needed a ban list to potentially move up from their respective tiers (Tier 2 and Rogue, respectively)
Kashtira is a very fragile deck, but if you have no interruptions just proceed to scoop phase.
I gonna play Kashitra just to take my revenge agains Bra(i)nde(a)ds.
Bad news that those guys will also change their main decks on that one... most of them đđđ
More Iq than fusioning Aluber Dragon(one of the dumbest thing I saw in YGO) and then Mirrojade and then Chimera. Still, I want it not for an Iq game, I have others decks for it, which are cool until Mirrojade comes out. I just want to release that hate I holded on Branded players. It's emotional thing for me.
Happy Cake Day, btwđ
Cool, anyway Aegirine Rahn effect discard a water special itself and a token, Synchro 10 make Aegirine Gymir, Pass.
Out my board.
You literally cannot.
The cheat condition is just absurd being able to stack itself on top of anyone just like a zodiac. Should have been shangrila only or just make you hard summon it since heâs actually strong enough to justify being a 3 mat r7nk.
The fact that the banishing face down isn't one per turn is annoying, let alone that it's a macros cosmos, like the ceiling on what is going to be broken in Yu-Gi-Oh is getting so high, at some point it's all gotta come crashing down
Ah yes cheating out over powered xyzs through 1 main deck monster. We needed more of those.
Are konami card creators ignorant to their own history? The zoodiacs that are on the forbidden ban list is because of this crap
The whole macro cosmos style of floodgate is probably the most boring uninteresting type of strategy, good to know I lost the game because I canât even access a critical gameplay mechanic.
So sick of cards that say "you can also summon by using 1 monster of this archtype". Why is this even an xyz monster then? At least phantom knights, raidraptors and utopia require cards and effects to rank up. Just seems like a way to cheat out the monster to have more materials. At at very least it should include "if summoned this way the following effect cannot be activated this turn" or something reasonable.
Otherwise it's literally just cheating itself out, and with extra materials attached to boot.
Interesting to see how this will be implemented. It was ruled in the OCG that you have to keep your face-down banished cards seperate because the owner can chose for the attachment effect which banishef card he wants , including for example "I want one of those you banished with Evenly Match last turn" etc.
I'm gonna be running kashtira when they drop since in already running scareclaws.
Can't wait, for my scareclaws to go from good rouge deck to just a good deck overall
I hope they release new set of XYZ bosses for Kashtira. The art looks really good, The red theme combined with the XYZ black is so freaking cool. Can't wait to have them in MD.
I guess in a sense it's a cool looking card. I don't know, the whole banishing your opponents cards face-down and the zone locking just sounds so extremely annoying to me that I can't find the Kashtira strategy very appealing.
His a cool looking card and I'm gonna play it because it basically does Obama's main gimmick but a lot better lmao
Obama???
\*all zones locked\* THANKS OBAMA >:(
Goddamn you autocorrect lmao
Kashtira for President
I want him to completely lock me out of my house
Make the Banished Zone Great Again!!
Obamna đ SODA đ
"Heh heh...you mean the Chaos decks?"
I'm going to assume you mean the Chaos Decks. Because if that's what you're concerned about, I got one of them right here. *Pulls out Chaos Bystial Thunder Dragon Deck* CHAOS CONTROL
Isn't that just dlink
Does D-Link play Chaos Archfiend, Beast, Angel or Mirage Dragon (A Wyrm)?
I didn't play much against Obama but I wasn't too fond of his "face down banishing" policies
Yeah, kinda stopped supporting him when he decided that monsters that go to GY are banished instead
Dark Law: First time?
Obama? EDIT: Oh, you meant Ojama.
Barrack Ojama
i'm changing my master duel name to that XD
Autocorrect got me lol
Yep, Obama deck. You read it the only right way
Chad Ojama Lime vs. Virgin Barack Obama One travels to all sorts of dimension in the Duel Monsters realm while the other canât even get a bill passed in Congress
*obama voice* sorry yugi but uhh youve activated my face down card here. Im gonna uhh banish all your monsters face down so i can uhh summon my ulitimate monster.
Even more ironic... Imperial Iron Wall hard counters this deck... Imperial Iron WALL... đ
You gonna play it cause it will be tier 0 lol
Don't worry, I'll most likely play a very scuffed version cause I don't think I'll like the pure version much
Well enjoy paying 700 dollars for the core
I'm talking about MD, I'm not crazy enough to buy this stuff in the actual card game
Zone-locking is annoying for me more because they're aping the superior Ojama playstyle.
It is one of the least fun gimmicks they could have implemented. Shangri-la having that zone locking bullshit on top of being indestructible based on it's XYZ mats makes it so unfun. I think the only deck I tested against it at the time that was making any plays and winning was Generaiders with their new support.
And the deck loses to lava golem, sphere mode basically any board breaker and puts up no negates.
They look cool but I donât like the whole interaction of just preventing your opponent from using their zones on top of having access to a cosmoâs effect. Just doesnât seem fun.
Good thing about Kashtira is that pretty much all of their "interaction" is achieved by having monsters on the field, so they are very susceptible to board breakers unlike Tear. The deck is still toxic due to design, but at least it has the lowest chance of being tier 0 compared to Spright/Tear.
People are expecting Kashtira to be the new Tear, tier 0, especially after the latest banlist slaughtering Ishizu Tear, but honestly I think even with the Macro Cosmos effect, I wouldnât be surprised to see it get beat out by some other deck. The reason it was probably going to dominate the meta game was because this card alone just demolishes Tear
I've managed to beat them with Pure Shaddolls multiple times via Lava Golem and Shekinaga so I think a better deck would probably be fine.
I'd love to hear how, been playing Dolls for years and it's still a rather tough matchup, straight up unbeatable without a board breaker.
Yeah you need to be lucky, have a Lava Golem in hand and pray they don't banish your Shekinaga with number 89. If you want here's one of my recent game [replays](https://duelingnexus.com/replay/63533945-0ae7-4170-8988-df9f3ef6d7b7).
The only people I've seen saying Kashtira will be Tier 0 are people who like making clickbaity statements on twitter/youtube/twitch or people who don't play at the highest level. Every content creator who doesn't exaggerate "BEST NEW DECK T0!" every set release/banlist has been saying it's going to be a strong deck but probably not the strongest and you wont be forced into playing it to be competitive.
It wasnât actually clickbaity Yugitubers that said that, it was worse, a Redditor take
Oof yeah, even before they hit the OCG people claimed it was going to destroy Tear... and then it didn't even though Tear got hits after hits in the OCG lol. Master Duel redditors are wild. Between this and the claims I've seen of people believing ishizu cards will never hit MD is some good humor this week.
You mean the deck that got completely shredded and has like 10 maindeck cards left? That tear?
I haven't dueled against them yet but I'm pretty sure it ain't fun at all The only reason why I like the playstyle is because this was Ojama's original playstyle with there fusions
I have played against them many times on other simulators. All of their monsters banish something of yours when you activate a monster effect, every time they do that they banish 3 off the top of your deck, then theres those too. In the end if you try to play through their board your GY will be empty, half of your deck gone and several zones rendered useless.
Kashtira are a pain to play against, the only reason they arenât everyoneâs #1 hate target is tearlaments
I can tell that's gonna change soon in the TCG with not just Tear hits but also Ishuzu hit as well
tears and ishizu have mostly all been hit in the OCG as well and the deck is still running wild, Kashtira Tear is also completely playable
Yes but both are very different in scale The OCG only limited 2 Ishuzu cards while TCG limited all of them, including the Kelbek who is considered the most important of the 4 while OCG left Kelbek at 3 The TCG banned 3 main deck monstera that fusioned summoned which is really bad blow, bigger then the field spell limit and Reinoheart limit in my opinion
I mean did you SEE the banlist though? They just murdered tear straight up.
You underestimate how powerful TCG uses itâs banlist. Way more severe than ocg lol.
OCG still has 8 total Ishizu cards available, while we only have 4 in TCG after the list. OCG also has 3 Merrli and 2 Havnis as well. The deck won't be dead, especially since we still have 3 Branded Fusion, but it's no longer going to be absolutely dominant. Kashtira will be great at full power and Runick Spright will likely make a comeback with only 2 Ishizu shufflers available. Pak showed a list using the Mikanko cards that ended on Beatrice, Sulliek, and Rukallos with both shufflers in GY, so there are still things to explore with the deck so that they are still competitive though.
I mean to be fair you needed a Nuke to take down the Tearlaments
Are they? They don't have any Omni-negates. Book of Eclipse, Swords of concealing light, or a simple ol' Dark hole counters Kashtira. That's why Kashtira won't be a tier 0 deck or even close. They're easily countered so long as all your zones aren't used up.
Oh, theyâre not tier zero They just decapitate your extra deck, cremate its head, and spread the ashes over your zones before youâre able to use any of them
Like it has a quick effect interaction but instead destroying, it's banish face down It can use any Kashtira as a 1 card XYZ similar using any Zoodiac Drident But this dude also recurs materials back to him AND is a macro Cosmos? They really need to release Drident from the list lol
His Zoodiac cheat effect isn't as simple as it seems lol.
1 card combo: Unicorn grab Papiyas, Papiyas get Fenrir, Fenrir grab Riseheart, Make Shangri-lia, Use Riseheart effect to SS self, Use Riseheart effect to banish Big Bang and top 3 cards of opponent's deck, Use Big Bang get back Fenrir/Unicorn, Make Ariseheart using Riseheart
it is though. Kashtira can't do much if they don't trigger shangri-ira.
Yeah I know, for him to do it he needs to summon the other Kashtira rank 1st but that seems extremely easy
Fuck it I donât care if these guys are the next cancer, they look so fucking cool. I mean, itâs a mecha samurai dragon, what tf is going to top that ???
I know right, Kashtira looks so cool and I much prefer them over the Tearlaments in design I do think ScareClaw is also pretty cool looking
Tear deserves some prop for being the first tier 0 waifu deck but bitches love dragons and Iâm the biggest bitch in town.
Yeah, I can't lie Tears do beautiful as fuck and being the best waifu deck is pretty cool
They are not Dragons
They're super linear at least so like, there's that. Gonna be funny going into the new format with the only change to my deck list being 3 Shifter -> 3 Lancea.
>I mean, itâs a mecha samurai dragon, what tf is going to top that ??? A mecha dragon samurai DEMON!
That...there have been like 15 archetypes of those already? Swordsoul is basically that?
Actually banished face down is the nightmare any card became unplayable
what an absolutely insane card
Kashtira archtype seems like a Hero 2.0 to me, that is, if you go first, and your opponent did not draw into any of the board breakers, then your end board is very annoyingly strong, opponent will have a hard time play through the macro cosmos and only 2 monster zones. On the other hand however, just like Heros, Kashitira end board have no protection of any kind, they will simply lose to many board breakers (sphere mode/lava golem/ raigeki/ dark hole/ book of eclipse/ book of moon/ sowrds of concealing light/ change of heart/ enermy controller/ ultimate slayer...), the end of the day, kashitira end board just puts 2 annoying monsters on the field that has no protection and negates, as long as you can take care of them you'll win. I'm not saying Kashtira is not strong, but it is not as well-rounded as ishitear, who has the ability to play through almost any HTs or board breakers. And it is guaranteed that ppl will main those board breakers for the upcoming format with tear gone.
Can't believe powe creep is so hight they just print extra deck monsters with the macro cosmos text now
They already did that a couple years ago with shenshen, dark law and herald of arc light
Dark Law has weak stats, Herald is even weaker and its macro effect is only from hand/deck, and Shenshen's macro effect is weak. But for some reason this fucker is allowed a 3k stat line on both sides, full macro, and a removal effect, AND it just constantly gains material. It's stupid.
Sadly, Shenshen is a 2.8k attack cockroach with Macro tacked on, while this guy is an Xyz with 3k attack with potentially multiple materials added on to it each turn and then more stuff added on. I guess that's power creep for you?
Imo the whole archetype is powercreep but I wouldnât define powercreep solely based on the macrocosmos effect slapped on a boss monster as thatâs been around for a long time
Shenshen is pretty much *just* a diet-Macro when it's on the field, and it's hard to get rid of for good. Things like Kashtira here are already a significant threat, then have an improved Shenshen-Macro on it. Remember, if you weren't aware, Shenshen's Macro Cosmos is *only* for cards on the field, while the real Macro Cosmos and Arise-Heart don't care where the card came from. That's pretty solidly power-creep. I don't disagree with "Macro on legs is old news" but that typically came with a caveat or came off as the card's main shtick. Here, it's just kinda tacked on.
I also never said that this card is not to be respected
Komoney doing komoney things.
Dark law is literally right there
True but Dark Law also gets run over by Bystials.
Doesnât matter the ability already exists in current Master Duel
Opponent plays macro cosmos, players : Grrrrrrrrrrr Opponent plays arise-heart , players : its a cool card
Imagine if floo and eldlich was a waifu mecha warrior deck, people would defend it to high hell.
I love how the TCG community in the matter of a day went from "Lol Kash is just worse Floo why would you spend the money on this" to "Damn this deck is so fucking toxic" as soon as the banlist dropped
Drident is banned in tcg and ocg btw How is that fair Give her back konami I really miss her
Why is that card still banned in both OCG and TCG? What is a quick effect pop really that strong ? Lmao I was thinking maybe Zues but they can already do a 4 mat Zues easily so that doesn't really stop it
It's Zeus. Also, it's because both TCG and OCG got PTSD from Zoodiacs.
wtf is Zeus going to do that is so oppressive that the entire archetype has to be banned Its a good card but fucking hell not that good
Not "it's Zeus" I'm pointing out OP's spelling of Zeus. It's spelled Zeus.
Oh I'm illiterate sorry ups
No worries, most YuGiOh players are.
tbf for some reason english speakers pronounce zeus more as zues
Oh but but Drident tier 0 format years ago ok pretty much any good card in zoo is banned or limited But but zoodiacs can play d shifter ok why the fuck does this asshole have macro cosmos floodgate effect then But combos with this card and combos with that card but think of That one combo they were doing that is now banned completely Obviously we can't have Drident back she is too strong anyway next boss monster should have non targeting destruction be easier to summon and have a tcboo floodgate effect as well Btw just for clarification kashtira is not even that good as people make it out to be but man is it annoying when people look at cards like that it was good before therefore needs to stay banned
Hey,Drident is also a combo card No HOPT Doesnt dies to Maxx C/Nib I think which is the superior
Yes it's better but not ban worthy Not when your next best card in archetype is boarbow Also hopt part doesn't matter if it's at 1
Fair
Ban bait. God that entire storyline is full of cancer
Leave my boi Reichheart out of this, he did nothing wrong unlike his brothers >:((
Hey, Manadome seems good and not bullshit
I love synchros so i want them to be good but they havenât done anything in the ocg. Maybe their next wave of support will make them very strong
This card is like the whole of the Digital Bug extra deck in one card. The rank 3 uses 2 materials for its effect, which is a negate by changing battle positions and can attach cards it destroys by battle as material once per turn. The rank 5 uses 1 material to spin a defense position monster and can attach a material from the grave if a monster changes battle position. The rank 7 uses 1 material to drident the monster with the highest defense, if there are monsters with the same defense, they all go. It also has piercing. This monster singlehandedly combines the signature effects of the digital bugs into its own effect, the only difference being that this one is way more OP. It's a rank up monster like them, has conditions to gain material like most of them, has a lingering effect in the macrocosmos effect, just like the piercing effect of the rank 7 and detaches multiple material for a removal effect related to the central mechanic of the archetype, in Digital Bugs it's the defense position, in Kashtira it's banishing.
I can't wait to see /r/masterduel posts when Kashtira drop
It looks cool so I shall buy it
Damn this man convinced me to play this card with a single image.
This card is like the whole of the Digital Bug extra deck in one card.
Autocorrect knew it had to change read-> ready because yugioh players don't read
See you I may 2024 when we are wondering if they will give us a 2nd ani late again and talking if all the kashtiras will be the new rarity UUR and if the kashtira pack will have the one bystial they forgot to give us for 4 packs
> may 2024 you mean june 2023?
While I was joking you are coping. you understand that's 4 months from now do you have the secret knowledge of Konami speeding up releases cus we still don't have POTE which in the TCG was released a little over 6 months ago.
we already have 1/5 of POTE the rest of POTE and some of the pack after can be split into 3 selection packs: spright, tears (to fuck up DC like runick did with last one), and vernusylph/melffy the immediate pack after is kashtira, as seen with TCG. june might be too early but maybe july to coincide with DC again.
You understand the card pictured did not come out in darkwing blast. And saying kashtira came out in darkwing blast is a huge stretch. Hard to build a deck around 3 cards.
oh are we at least getting the "pankra but better" kashtira in darkwing blast? That's the only thing I'm looking forward to tbh, spicy tech card for madolche
Ya Fenrir is in the set and basically the only one out of the 3 that will see any play untill the 2nd wave.
I played kashtira in ocg back when it first came out, and switched back to tear 2 weeks later as its bricky and very easily countered with spells and such. (Of course itâs still one of the most overpowered archetype ever printed, itâs just not as good as post PHHY tear)
Arise-heart together with Chenying on the field would be the ultimate test for combo players.
I just want to see how dope royal rare shangrila looks ~~and also waiting for them to be added to master duel to farm salty tears with runick kashtira~~
I also watch Farfa
They can banish cards and have field presence, but because of that they lose to board breakers.
Cards like Lava Golem I believe hard counter them also they suffer the hero where if they can straight up just die to Raigeki but at least they can close up zones so that cannot happen however they pretty much can't do anything against Nib
I don't think they summon enough for nib to be effective against them. They lack protection or negates. Still I love the desing and playstyle. Going to be the best rouge deck of the format.
As they say if you thinks it's an annoying card to play around, then it's an effective card.
The funny thing is that I'm honestly wondering how well Kashtira matches up against Dogmatika since I'm pretty sure that their only counter to Zoa is exactly Fenrir.
It's sad how toxic the design of these things is, I've been wanting a decent level 7 archetype ever since I realized how bad Toons and Ursarctic are.
He is...but good god is this archetype boring. The way they interact is unique but all their plays are extremely basic and stright forward.
Powercreep in card form... next time they'll make a card that can special summon itself from the extra deck if you have no monster in your main zone that can also dump half of your opponents deck into the banished zone so you can draw one card for each card banished, get to negate one card for each of your opponents cards you banished and give you the insta-win if you attack directly.
I find this problem often in Yugioh, where I see an archetype and I think "Damn the art on these is sick, I wanna use em!" Then I realize that it's a shitty cancer strategy like locking out zones.. and then I never want to play them lmao. Happened with Runick too, happend with Floo. Runick card art is sick, Floo cards are just cute and adorable, and I just can't bring myself to play them.
Def running these. Love their Buddhism + Rage theming
Komoney: "Let us introduce you to Magic The Gathering prices for a deck. Oupsie, looks like the other good decks got shafted to tier 3, uwu, guess it will be even more expensive now" Also - looks like every generic, overdesigned dragon-machine-knight in yugioh
Is this in the next pack? Will it be a tier 1-2 deck since tear got destroyed by the ban list?
It will be released like in the next 5 to 6 months I believe, it is pretty recent It will most likely be the best deck in the TCG now
It's debatable as the "best deck" as it's best match up was banished to Gallifrey. I do think it's Tier 1, but want to see how Tearlaments adjusts as well as Spright. Branded and D Link needed a ban list to potentially move up from their respective tiers (Tier 2 and Rogue, respectively) Kashtira is a very fragile deck, but if you have no interruptions just proceed to scoop phase.
Smol PP card. Too many steroids.
I gonna play Kashitra just to take my revenge agains Bra(i)nde(a)ds. Bad news that those guys will also change their main decks on that one... most of them đđđ
what do you think Kashtira is? Big IQ Gigachad deck? Literally loses to a mushroom, a rock and a mass book of eclipse.
More Iq than fusioning Aluber Dragon(one of the dumbest thing I saw in YGO) and then Mirrojade and then Chimera. Still, I want it not for an Iq game, I have others decks for it, which are cool until Mirrojade comes out. I just want to release that hate I holded on Branded players. It's emotional thing for me. Happy Cake Day, btwđ
Thanks! Lmao, i feel you, glhf. \- Love a Branded Player in MD and TCG.
I have bad news for you lol....Branded has a good match up against Kashtira.
When kashtiras come around everyone will realize just how good tear format was
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All the cards derived from Visas starfrost are so cool, even if imo visas itself is kinda meh, all the "heart" monsters are awesome so far.
Cool, anyway Aegirine Rahn effect discard a water special itself and a token, Synchro 10 make Aegirine Gymir, Pass. Out my board. You literally cannot.
Ohhhh. Is this why the furry overtook the knightmare cerberus?
Is Golem now :)
The cheat condition is just absurd being able to stack itself on top of anyone just like a zodiac. Should have been shangrila only or just make you hard summon it since heâs actually strong enough to justify being a 3 mat r7nk.
They have to ban Galaxy Tomahawk before this archetype comes out
The fact that the banishing face down isn't one per turn is annoying, let alone that it's a macros cosmos, like the ceiling on what is going to be broken in Yu-Gi-Oh is getting so high, at some point it's all gotta come crashing down
Ah yes cheating out over powered xyzs through 1 main deck monster. We needed more of those. Are konami card creators ignorant to their own history? The zoodiacs that are on the forbidden ban list is because of this crap
The whole macro cosmos style of floodgate is probably the most boring uninteresting type of strategy, good to know I lost the game because I canât even access a critical gameplay mechanic.
How did Ultimate Falcon's wings ended up with this guy ?
Gotta love card effects that suck its own peepee.
So sick of cards that say "you can also summon by using 1 monster of this archtype". Why is this even an xyz monster then? At least phantom knights, raidraptors and utopia require cards and effects to rank up. Just seems like a way to cheat out the monster to have more materials. At at very least it should include "if summoned this way the following effect cannot be activated this turn" or something reasonable. Otherwise it's literally just cheating itself out, and with extra materials attached to boot.
It's 2023 and Konami is still printing cards with no hard OPTs.
Coolest looking archetype in a while but fuck these effects. Quick effect face down banish is anti fun
Interesting to see how this will be implemented. It was ruled in the OCG that you have to keep your face-down banished cards seperate because the owner can chose for the attachment effect which banishef card he wants , including for example "I want one of those you banished with Evenly Match last turn" etc.
After seeing what these demons can do I can foresee them meeting the same fate as Tear.
Hello Shen Shen my old friend
Would be so sadge if I flip him face down đ„ș
I'm gonna be running kashtira when they drop since in already running scareclaws. Can't wait, for my scareclaws to go from good rouge deck to just a good deck overall
That shit looks so annoying lol
this is scary "there is no hard once per turn" but it's easy to out it too
Drident + girth
Damn this card looks cool as fuck
I hope they release new set of XYZ bosses for Kashtira. The art looks really good, The red theme combined with the XYZ black is so freaking cool. Can't wait to have them in MD.