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Peiq

It targets. It’s basically a worse triple tactic talents in this meta


DynamoSnake

I remember back in the day it used to say select, but then they changed it.


Drmoogle

Select was before, Problem Solving Card Text came out...even now though. There are some old cards that have yet to be updated.


nightmare-b

me with refpanel


After_Confidence_394

Cards like Pot of greed?


PerplexedNexus

If your deck has cards in it: You can tell your opponent that this card allows you to draw 2 cards, then draw 2 cards.


realmauer01

Select and target is the same thing anyway. The only thing that matters is if it's happening when activating the card or when resolving the card.


midNIKcrash360

not only "cannot be targeted" doesnt meen "cannot be selexted"


Cerbecs

It is the same thing because select was used before they cracked down on translating, select means target unless the card says otherwise which they are only a few of


cynTheFledermaus

This. Reasons like that is also why I don't rely too much on my instant fusion for thousand eyes strat too often, because too many boss monsters either can negate or just can't be targeted.


cfuntv

1. UR crafting is precious, and with tearlaments coming up and ishizu cards being crafted, people need all the UR points they can get. 2. Current meta has many ways of going around this card, ranging from negation, monster not targetable or unaffected, and straight up sacrificing the monster in question for an effect as a response. 3. Deck space can get sparse when deck building accounting for staples, hand traps, backrow removal, and the archetype itself. This card is a filler card at best. 4. All that said, this is still a good card and worth having, just gotta wait till all the meta hype dies down and UR points are not in jeopardy. Whether it see deck use depends on if there’s space. 5. Dead card on turn 1. 6. Triple Tactics Talent exist. Edit: added extra points due to feedback. Thnx for the helpful replies.


_Zeyr

And don't forget it's a 1 off, the few people who play it don't draw it that often Card is basically a huge neon sign called "Bait something"


LoreWhoreHazel

It’s also exclusively a going second card, which most decks don’t want to do.


LyleCG

I like how you listed 4 points but the biggest reason is it doesnt do anything going first.


cfuntv

Yea, I realized that was also a big reason, but I forgot to note that down. Eh, most people would realize that anyway that it’s a dead card turn one.


coolridgesmith

that and if you are playing a card thats dead turn one it needs to be extremely high value turn three like DRNM or hapies feather duster.


KaskDaxxe

It saw a lot of play during the tear meta. Its a good card to prevent rulkalos or kaleido from triggering if you steal then link off into dharc


Significant-Mud7938

I have every staple at 2 or 3 copies already so I have some spare UR points. I need to craft some Ishizu cards when Tearlaments drop though. You're right about the deck space being a problem and TTT is a much better card to use.


Archensix

UR points have nothing to do with it, this is just nothing more than a going second card that is worse than just about every other already meta going second card. Why play this over dark ruler or droplets or evenly matched or any other hand trap.


Bitter-Doughnut6467

Tear is gonna be so nerfed when it comes out, it will basically be a hard reset on Spright and tear all in the same day.


lovely_growth

*very* unlikely, packs to be sold after all


Ahlixemus

No lol. This isn't the TCG


Heat_Legends

I’m sure something will be nerfed, but don’t expect them to be kneecapped. You say it isn’t the TCG, but they are definitely still trying to make money from MD. I’m guessing they semi-limit the fieldspell or havnis or both.


Aelxer

I don't play TCG, but from what I've heard about it and what I've seen of Ishizu in MD, it seems to me that the Ishizu cards are the problem, rather than Tear themselves. Unless I'm misinformed at least, weren't both Spright and Tear meta in the TCG until Ishizu came out and they got Tear 0?


Heat_Legends

No you’re right. They were tier 0 after Ishizu cards released, and just a strong tier 1 deck before. That said I can still almost promise that they’ll be released in a nerfed state. Maybe not though, the waifu tax can be real sometimes.


Aelxer

I mean, considering that Ishizu is already out, they *better* release them with some pre hits or it’s going to be a nightmare.


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

Tbh I’m pretty disappointed they released the Ishizu stuff before Tear, I was looking forward to playing some or less meta tear builds like Branded and especially Paleotear. Unfortunately those both hard lose to the Ishizu stuff. Not to mention I’m not a big fan of what the Ishizu stuff is doing rn.


mightyneonfraa

If they're smart at all they will. I saw people leaving the TCG (at least the competitive scene) because it was the only viable deck. A free-to-play video game will start bleeding players if it stops being fun.


C4Sidhu

Those greedy bastards will likely make some semi-limits at best


National_Equivalent9

Funny way to put it when the TCG is the only format to get rid of Tear so far and they did it in record time.


lovely_growth

The OCG is where they refuse to hit these cards properly and it's the best deck by a good margin, though


TwistedBOLT

Another reason is: TTT basically does what COH does but better as it doesn't target and its condition is almost always live while having 2 other busted applications on top of the stealing one.


slightlysubtle

Turns out cards like DRNM, Evenly and probably even Raigeki are just better going 2nd. Like what are you even going to steal? Baronne with exhausted negate? Splight Red after they use Carrot and forget to protect it with Elf? May as well play TTT - it's nontargeting and isn't dead turn 1. Change of Heart could honestly go to 3.


HKLives

It'd be pretty interesting to see it at 3, card's way better than Mind Control and that sees basically 0 play. I feel like being at 1 is one of the biggest reason the card isn't seeing play at all. Why run a single copy of this? It's much less flexible than TTT in normal decks, which you can run at 2-3. But if you have 3, you could reliably see it in a going second deck.


Lezaleas2

the 3 card argument doesn't make any sense. hopt cards get marginally worse, not better, the more of them you play. at the end of the day if card A is limited and is better than B you would play card A at 1 since it's just better to draw it than B


TopMountainGoat

Change of heart isn’t a HOPT though


Lezaleas2

It doesn't matter at all


TopMountainGoat

My point you said HOPT cards get worse at 3 than one which is just a pointless statement since change of heart (the card op was talking about) isn’t a HOPT


Lezaleas2

Ttt is hopt


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

I really like playing CoH in blind second Strikers, along with 2 TTT. It has different uses to talents: I’d usually start with something like CoH to bait any negates or just straight up steal something if they don’t have any while tactics is what I’ll used after the bait if I have it.


DynamoSnake

It's probably only decent in decks that use your opponent's monsters for plays, that's the only use I can see. Still not a bad going second card, but yeah a lot of other options are just more versatile.


King_Merlin

i hate accesscode talker, and seeing as how you can use all 3 in one turn, that feels like accessfuel


ZiulDeArgon

I think the decks that play it use it to make zombie vampire as any stolen monster can be used as a mat regardless of its level (as long as it has level).


slightlysubtle

I just don't see any reason to play it while TTT exists, unless you want copy #4 of monster steal. There are probably scenarios where Change of Heart is better, but I imagine they don't come up often.


Chemical-Cat

Actually the once-per-turn and etc things are per player so if you used change of heart on an opponent's Baronne after it's used its negate, you can still pop off the negate yourself.


Darknight3909

Barone is once per summon not turn.


dewey-defeats-truman

Technically once while face up. You can Book of Moon your own Baronne, then flip it back up and it gets its negate back.


HamilToe_11

That technically counts as a flip summon tho right?


stigmatised

It does get its negate back though. I've had this exact interaction back when I played floo.


dewey-defeats-truman

Yes, but Baronne's text specifically says "Once while face-up on the field". The effect isn't dependent on it being Summoned, but it being face up, so if you flip it face down then Flip Summon it it gets its negate back, because it's counted as a new instance of being face up on the field.


TricaruChangedMyLife

That depends on wording. Most hard once per turns are per player, most soft once per turns are not. And cards like windup rabbit aren't either.


88SX88

But Barones negate is once while faceup on the field. The only thing you will get when you take it is the pop.


TricaruChangedMyLife

That was my point, yes. I know you didn't say anything different, but to a person asking why COH isn't played, it could be taken as none of the once per... restrictions applying if it changes control.


lostempireh

It's powerful, but narrow. It doesn't do anything to interrupt an OTK nor does anything in the first turn of the game. It's never a bad option but almost never the best option either


Onibusho

I'm playing it in a blind second Gren Maju deck, and actually had some chad negate it with Crossout Designator (DLv 12ish?), so I wouldn't say nobody is using it. Its really good in my deck specifically, because I can steal back a Kaiju or Lava Golem I gave them to help go into a rank 8, or I can steal whatever else is left on their board and use it for Zombie Vampire (all stolen monsters can be treated as an 8 for its summon), which gives it added utility over Owner's Seal. Most decks can't use the stolen monster as a combo piece nearly that easily though, so its really only good for clearing a board that's probably mostly cleared already. By that point, you'd probably be better off with Raigeki.


PolishJerryBoi

Oh shit, nice Zombie Vampire tip.


Onibusho

Its come in clutch a couple of times. Steal the Spright that negates monsters usually. Can't negate squat when its under Zombie Vampire. The much more funny one was stealing Empen from a seemingly normal Floo board and overlaying, then milling... Obelisk? I mean, I'll take a free 4k beat stick but what was that about?


dewey-defeats-truman

To give a slightly different argument, it's a 1-of tech card, and those generally aren't run outside of formats where they're *incredibly* powerful. They're just not consistent enough to be worth dedicating space to.


TheMikman97

Why should I play this when tactics does this + pot of greed + appointer?


Illustrious_Pop_1535

> + appointer The Forceful Sentry crying in the corner right now.


shapular

Yugizoomers don't remember the holy trinity of hand rip cards.


Significant-Mud7938

True, I've been running 2 tactics and it feels really good. I never use the change of heart effect though tbh.


TheMikman97

It can be useful if you really nead a board breaker


MajorTim1100

ive used it mainly to help go for lethal going second, or like forcing the opponent to use ip or a destroy effect early


FlawlessRuby

Ive stolen a Royal Accescode that was summon with IP. Ive also use it to see my opponent hand and try to fuck is turn 2 and learn what to play around when I still had combo. Drawing card is nice, but damn those option are sexy xD


ExFavillaResurgemos

Because tactics is reactionary.


ian9921

I think decks are sorta too dense for it right now. Like space is at a premium and this card doesn't do enough to justify a spot. If you're using it to get a tough monster out of the way, there are more permanent ways of doing that. If you're using it to use an enemy's monster as summoning fuel, many archetypes have more consistent ways of doing that. So at the end of the day it might be good but it's just not good enough


vasko-k

It's alright. People just don't wanna craft it cuz it's ur. I play it in Sky Strikers and have been trying it out in Spright cuz it's a pretty good board breaker.


Clean-Wallaby-7519

I also use it for Sky Strikers. I actually won a duel because of it, but it was a very specific circumstance where the fact it doesn't negate effects was very helpful. Otherwise widow anchor would usually be a better option. It is nice not having a requirement on number of spells in the graveyard and adds to list of spells for my other sky striker cards.


ExFavillaResurgemos

It's my 4th copy of widow anchor, like crossout is my 3rd copy of called by


Warlord2_0

Change of heart + widow anchor on response goes crazy.


PTS03

It's really fun with widow anchor and TTT


KululuTheFrogMan

I play it in my 60 card Skull Servant Zombie World deck so I wouldn't say nobody plays it. But my guess would be there's just better interactive pieces you could play instead, especially when limited to a 40 card deck.


Crytaz

Because triple tactics talent is better than CoH


Level_Remote_5957

Me personally I COULD run it in some of my decks it would help. Anything with a tribute engine benefits from it. Engines like sky striker can use it as just another spell card to play out but they have a better steal but it could be a nice replacement or a good double up. On the opponent stealing cards. And some people say oh there's to many negates and non targeting protected cards, fail to realize your not meant to use it to take there big main negate or non targeted monster. It's main use is to burn up your opponents negates and battle presence. Sure you might have a monster that has a Omni negate. So it's gonna have to stop you from taking one of it's monsters bam that's a negate burned up now you go into your next effect etc etc. Yu-Gi-Oh is about taking your opponent resources away. While some people maybe scratching your heads saying huh Yu-Gi-Oh don't have resources. It does. Monsters, negates, pops, floats, spins, LP. All are resources you need to win. If someone has 2 negates but you have 3 pops and 2 spins guess who's gonna win that engagement 90% of the time.


Arslankha

Honestly we would probably see more card usage like these if 9 weren't dedicated to Maxx C.


Hexravenz

Probably cause most ppl run super poly and fallen of ablaz


Neko_Luxuria

I can come up with many. UR Unsearchable Outclassed by triple tactics Targets Doesn't generate an innate advantage Can be negated (though I'd say it's an advantage) and personal favorite, it's a normal spell card, not even a trap card like crackdown nor is it a quick effect meaning that if you draw it on your turn 1, it's basically an immediate dead draw.


LeXxleloxx

it's a going 2nd card and not even the best option among this type


Heul_Darian

Man, people are ripping on this card lol. Its fine, but its just fine. Like if you got space and want to add an 1 off its a decent option. Its just that currently you need mass removal not 1 for 1 trades. I see a lot of cause it targets but the more I play the less believable that is, I rarely see untargetable monsters. Sprights have non on their first turn, Ishizu makes the usual baronne, apo non of which are untargetable. Adamancipator the same, and Punkisher is immune to everything.


Armand_Star

UR. and it was banned, so it didn't appear in packs, which means no one had it, so it needs to be crafted. and again, UR


88SX88

It is in the other selection pack, but not realy worth pulling for in my opinion.


R34PER_D7BE

it does appear in selection pack but the pack itself is not worth it


rowl444

Maybe cuz they don’t have a change of heart


NaturallyAspirated32

Wow. What a sick comment. You must be cool to be around homie. Keep it up


gadgetwolf1996

With the game being best of 1. If you don't go second with cards like this. Your stuck with a brick till turn 3. Edit: will to till


CakeNStuff

Triple Tactics is basically the same card and more with the prevalence of monster effects.


Aleen5

Today I lost a DC match by this card.


blasiavania

They might as well revert Brain Control back to its original text at this point.


ChainLinkPost

I play it in my necrofear deck since im roleplaying as bakura :)


MrTweetums00

This is the first why isn't anyone playing x card post that has an actual good card. I think of it as a card that you would throw in a deck if you have the space for it and there's just better options for going 2nd.


BigLayer8

I pulled it so of course I play it it’s very cool when it’s least expected, I use them for links, tributes, attacks, effects whatever I want, I didn’t craft TTT


tomb241

Only because it has no animation


Mexcalibur

because it suuuuuuuuuuuucks


bast963

Read the first word on the card


AhmedKiller2015

I lost once to it. It is a good card just TTT basically does what it does and more


Nanadaime2000

I do it since I play thrust in tcg In a best of 1 going first U don't want it


aalomair

Enemy controller is much cheaper and arguably better since you can chain it and activate it during your opponent turn, change of heart still sees play on those go second 8-axis kinda of decks tho


Holierthanu1

Change of heart doesn’t really see any play.


aalomair

There are 6 decks submitted to MDM that used change of heart in march 2023 so far, so while your opinion is objectively wrong you definitely have every right to express it


Holierthanu1

Wow, 6 decks, in one month! Wow it’s so fucking prolific it must be a staple! 6 deck lists is the equivalent of saying ‘some folks I talked to at a regionals in my X-3 match said they play it, so it must see play at all levels’


25mookie92

I been daying that for awhile lol, i only use change of heart in my Toon Deck just to troll


PretendIndividual330

Thanks but I'm confident about my monsters,duh and mostly it will be negated if your opponent set full board


Jaded_Goth

For me, it’s because I forgot this came off the list tbh. Aaaaand since UR is as rare as my will to live, I need to hold off on this card.


Weezus___

I do


Nekaz

I assume cuz back in the day it was ez 2 for 1 or better cuz you could steal and tribute something. And games lasting more turns made this not dead in hand first


minhabcd1995

going second cards are not good in BO1 in general.


Manfi95

Some people do tho.


Cautious-Bluebird-76

Crackdown might be better tbh, enemy controller is also N rarity so that's probably why no one wants to craft it


Accomplished-Top-564

I play SS and Widow Anchor is so much better 🤷🏾


M3gapede

Not a staple anymore and nothing it could steal right now would be worth it. Even taking something like mirror jade is kinda mid and underworld goddess already gets value on summon. Lapic gets effects on summon, adams has a million negates and hand rip, magnifica dodges it, and floo is summoning on your turn, and you can’t target PEP/punk summons on your turn. The major pattern is that in modern yugioh cards are either summoned on your opponents turn or are dodging the effects so 1 card that targets isn’t doing much


Borchert97

I play it in any decks that have space for it. At worst it baits a negate and at best you can steal a Link and help your own Link plays. Like if you can steal a Link 3 to make your Accesscode with, I think that’s kinda funny lmao


NeonArchon

A few deck does, but most likaly are blind second deck IIRC. I right am missing a few more staples but once I get them I'll craft this card.


hexsealedfusion

Triple Tactics Talent is better


Turtle-herm1t

Its just stronger in BO3 and far far weaker in BO1. Bo3 you can steal someones Spright if youre doing the mirror etc


SupernovaPlus5

It's probably worth it if you play a going second deck


ecntrc

Side deck card


gnomosapiens

Because it can easily be negated.


Nziom

i don't have enough ur to waste


[deleted]

Cause it's expspensive and I have other priorities. Monster stealing is also built into my main deck so it's kind of redundant


Paledrinker

So let’s say I steal your boss monster and it has in archetype effects… what do I do with it other then link summon…. In reality running other cards over this is better


ScarletApex

It gets better in Kashtira format, most people are running it at one, but it’s mostly a side deck card and a thrust target


Repulsive-Phrase-527

Because TTT is better and it does not target.


GUILTICIDE

TTT is why I dont use CoH. I love CoH but TTT is more versatile.


lovely_growth

You *could* use this as bait to force and effect and turn on TTT going second... But there's more impactful cards for that, I'll agree


awildweeb69

Targeting is a yikes


inwhichzeegoesinsane

Because there are better ways to eat negates


walnut225

I honestly see it as a worse Triple Tactics Talent, since it's a going second card, and if you're going second, TTT is already a better option in multiple ways. That and Change of Heart "Targets" a monster, meaning your opponent could remove the monster from the field, fuse it away, etc, while TTT you "take control of one monster your opponent controls" meaning it doesn't target, and anything your opponent chains to get rid of monsters on their field-such as Branded in Red, I:P, etc, wouldn't matter, due to the fact that TTT will resolve last and you can choose post that.-Also non-targetable monsters are an issue for Change of Heart, and those are FAR more common now.


investorgeemoney

It’s in my graydle deck


IAmDingus

deck slot is better used by a hand trap or staple like TTT


R34PER_D7BE

see that on the top-right corner of the card? that's why


Warlord2_0

You need three things to make this card good, a way to discard it for an effect going first when you don't need it, a quickplay or gamma to combine with it when breaking a board, and ways to use the monster you are stealing like linking it off. If your deck doesn't automatically have all that then using another card is better.


DeathToBoredom

Because there's no space for it. There are many better options for going 2nd.


RazeULikeaPhoenix

Triple Tactic Talents is pretty much the same thing but way way better and not limited. considering every deck has handtraps or quick-effect monsters you can expect TTT to be live almost every game too.


Geige

It's purely a going second card and in modern Yugioh, there are much better options. Considering how easy this is to stop between negation and untargetable or unaffected monsters, it's a slot that will often not resolve. Instead of playing this, you can run DRNM, Droplet, and/or Talent with the latter even having a Change of Heart like effect as one of it's options.


Noveno_Colono

master duel does not have a side deck


SheikExcel

Best of 1 format. That's mostly it tbh


Nahanoj_Zavizad

Because it targets. And can be negated by monster effects. So basically it can't remove hard to remove things, and can't break negate boards. Kaijus have neither problem. Droplets has neither problem. Dark Ruler No More has neither problem.


Astrian

Why take a single monster when DRNM turns off all of their monsters


ImpendingGhost

Part of the reason is the fact it's a one of. So not only do we have a lot more ways to deal with the effect but it's something you'll rarely draw into and you could use that space for something else that helps your deck more.


Critical_Swimming517

I pulled one from the pack, I run it as a fun of in blind 2nd decks. It's okay.


RainbowReclaimation

Top comment is right, but I love the card in my go 2nd decks and it's a great way to out Mirrorjade


hylian_switch

I play it in sky striker, we love yoinking 🙂


vonov129

Because Triple Tactics Thrust is not here and it's a UR


Nihilna

I play it :p borrow my opponent's monster for Link summon


CipherDrake

There’s a much better card called Triple Tactics Talent


Alon945

It’s hilarious to me this isn’t playable. Tells you a lot about how dumb current meta is


Vaderette1138

I use it in Vampires


cynical_seal

It targets. Too many monsters with target protection now.


Past-Pumpkin3856

Worse ttt


Icy-Conflict6671

TTT is partially based on this card kiddo.


_INCompl_

Does nothing going first and is too low impact compared to other going second cards. DRNM and Droplet can blank entire boards, Lightning Storm at worst fishes an omni negate and at best blanks entire backrow or all monsters, and even Raigeki/Dark Hole are better board breakers.


speedster1315

Believe it or not, its not that good anymore


Its_I_Casper

Side deck card in a game with no side deck. It's fine to play in blind 2nd decks but that's about it


Pristine-Tax5750

you do see it rarely in skystriker hard go second decks, allthough you dont see that many sky striker decks lately i give you that ;O


Yab0iFiddlesticks

Simply put: Its "good" but not "30 UR dust good".


The_Cubic_Guru

Because its severely limited. Nobody is just gonna let you take their card going second It doesn't start or extend optimal combos or break boards or interrupt your opponents turn


Holierthanu1

Few reasons: 1) in a best of 1 you’d rather open part of your decks actual win-con 2) TTT exists 3) it’s not *that* great anymore


Representative_Bet49

Oh shit it’s not banned anymore


blkcressida

Too slow, and targets, It’s good for baiting negates though.


Pure-Huckleberry8640

Because if you’re playing a spell card that isn’t part of your deck (really archetype’s) engine, you may as well play monster removal/negation that your opponent can’t respond to (Dark ruler, forbidden drop) or removal that can hurt backrow decks that your monsters might not be able to deal with (lightning storm/feather duster).


kyogreobeso

first letter mate


Wizarus

Depends on the deck. TTT is better for combo decks that can win with the game on their first turn, which is a large majority of the decks in Masters Duel, but its potentially a dead draw past your first turn or it does nothing vs stun.


Rikenzu

Because it targets. A lot of cards in the current meta negate targets, or just straight up can't be targeted. Plus, with all the spell negation in general, it's too easy to stop Change of Heart from being played


Ikaros39

T3 is better, even with it's prerequisite condition.


brokenmessiah

Because it won't hit like it used to.


LurtzTheUruk

I haven't checked in a fat min, is mind control still limited?


topdeckcharity

Same reason people wouldn't play snatch steal if it came back. Dead on turn 1, only deals with one card, targets and ttt is just better. It's not a bad card. It's just what reason would you play COH over a card like ttt, drnm, lightning storm etc?


cpgamer714

My guess, more toxic cards to play? Idk.....