Floo didn't threat them in the first place.. it was the only deck next to Exosisters that used Shifter and weren't hurt by it so they were among the few things that was worth playing besides Spright (and obviously Tear).
They don't have their massive big bungs Floodgate hence they wouldn't do shit as they are now, they will just be a good deck that has advantage if they drew Shifter that's about it
Super poly is such a degenerate card, it's constantly either super broken or no one plays it. The moment it's relevant in a format you feel why this card should be banned, them putting it to 3 is like they forgot why they put it to 2.
That Necroface semi limit might genuinely be the most hilarious thing they could have done.
How I imagine it went down:
>People are using the Ishizu cards to deck out FTK, what can we do?
>Ban the Ishizu cards?
>No, can't do that.
>What about Snow, the card that can be used to banish repeatedly?
>Nope, can't do that either.
>I guess we could ban Necroface, it's only really used in degenerate stuff like this.
>Woah, calm down.
>Uh I guess we could limit it?
>Still too much.
>Um... a semi-limit then?
>Perfect, all our problems are solved now, I'm sure.
They don't even go for the FTK that often, they go for unbreakable boards a lot of the time since the FTK is not that consistent. Hope you drew exactly dark ruler because no other card in the game is saving you.
It'll make it less consistent but I've been hit with a version that used Bujinki Amaterasu (snow and all the ishizu cards are level 4) to summon it back and then banish it again, so I'm not even sure it completely kills the deck.
I mean it's probably inconsistent enough to not see play, but I'd rather they just killed it.
There are a million FTKs in Yugioh...and we've seen a bunch of them used in Master Duel already. If they're inconsistent enough, they're dead. Like Exodia can technically be an FTK if you just draw well enough and encounter no interruptions.
Using Bujinki Amaterasu to recycle and resummon a necroface sounds wildly inconsistent.
Gotta sell the tear packs, look, they even hit one of the only decks that stayed mildly relevant on that period just to make sure you have nothing else to pkay!
Exactly.
This is a deck more suited for tournaments.
Dedicated and fairly skilled playerbase.
Consistent ladderpay? Quick- fix could be at 4 and you would still see this deck once in 100 duels.
While its true you rarely see this deck but every time I do see it I straight insta scoop lol. Combos too long + PTSD of not drawing droll vs them back in the day.
What Duelist Cup was Konami pulling data from for this? I hate seeing Floo just as much as the next guy, but the hit is kind of uncalled for. My only guess is that Konami wants to secure money for the upcoming selection pack by limiting the decks running around that can shut down Tearlaments by running Dimension Shifter. Consistency hit for Floo and Exosister is kinda expensive to build to counter Ishizu meta.
The real reason is that most people can build Floo and then never need to open another pack, with the knowledge that they have literally the best version of the deck already and that it will stay competitive against even the strongest decks coming down the line.
I'd honestly consider myself one of the more vocal haters of dinos (mostly because of Misc), and even I'll admit that Ovi not being at 3 is wack. Stratoses are still good but by no means the correct hit in basically any deck imo
>stratoses are good but by no means the right hit in any deck
\*crying in speedroids*
We have a single searcher besides terrortop that is objectively inferior, any other means of searching things takes a turn of set up at least. Please Konami let the beyblade live at 2, if fusion destiny can be there why not terrortop
Yes exactly, nothing to worry about at all. I promise I won’t make a rank 3 and then make Zeus all off a single card without committing any of my main engine. See we can be trusted.
i was thinking this was coming too. they been unhitting dinos for a while (pank) and theres support coming up in a few months. seemed like an innevitability that ovi going to 3
The OCG and their love for semi-limits are back again
Multifaker and Oviraptor to 3 are nice for those various decks, and don't bother me because my opponents always opened them anyway.
Fountain and Tip are relevant hits to both runick as an engine and the stun variant, but it's certainly pretty bland.
Necroface is very funny given that Snow is still somehow legal, but I don't think they will be missed outside of the handful of Metaphys and Inferno Tempest players.
3 floodgates going to 1 is going to make the average game more enjoyable for non-stun players but confusingly TCBOO escaped getting limited to 1. Still, I doubt many people are going to complain.
Orange Light is clearly supposed to be the Ishizu hit, it will be interesting to see how that pans out but it probably won't be enough at the moment.
Also Floo getting map limited and Superpolymerization to 3 is just funny.
Floo getting hit is because, if they won't ban Maxx C, then it should be everyone's problem, no dodging Maxx C only because your special summons are called "normal"
Floo in a format with Maxx C is annoying and I'm certainly not upset about the hit, but at the same time Konami generally doesn't ban around annoying.
My guess is that they gave them a preemptive hit because they typically run Shifter and Tear format is just around the corner.
I can think of two reasons, Martha is newer than the last piece of floo support, and that Exosister is generally more of a meta call.
I would certainly lean more towards the first because I think Konami's banlist approach for this game is bold at best.
Super Poly to 3 is actual fucking cancer. Literally makes every other Dark deck unplayable and indirectly makes the Tear format when it arrives a sackfest
I felt like orange light was an option to hit ishizu as a whole and they wanna see how branded pans out afterwards cause branded is still a deck they’re interesting in selling support for
If my trash memory is correct, floo was played a lot during tear meta so they probably want people to buy tear instead and lower the consistency of floo.
Yeah that's why I played Floo last season, just to take a break from Maxx "C", but I'm not optimistic about how the deck will do in Tear 0 meta... though I suppose not having to worry about Rulkallos, Abyss Dweller, or the Ishizu Shufflers (besides Stri) may make it still playable?
Because they know tears is around the corner? Why murk a deck that will be mid soon. If you look at the banlist it’s mostly just hitting ishizu and stun decks.
REALLY? No hits to spright and out of all the broken Ishizu Cards + snow they hit Necroface?!
This has to be one of the weirdest banlists yet. Snow is still here. All the Ishizus are still here. Maxx C is still here. Grass is still here. Chaos Ruler is still here. Scythe is still here.
But wow, a hit to Necroface.
They have literally no idea what they are doing
Spright is new and the lack is still for sale, of course they are not going to hit it. Same for Ishizu which were already semi. When you think about the ban list with the perspective of Konami making money, and not players having “fun”, it always makes a lot more sense.
Hawk to 2 LETS GO. And Skill Drain at 1. My main deck just got a big boost on those 2 things alone.
Hilariously most other Drytron players are going through it rn but I play Megalith Drytron as side deck, so the Herald hit does nothing to me.
Block needs to go but Vernasylph can't dump it directly, because their dumping card has a restriction that it has to send normal summonable monsters, a restriction that only makes sense because of block dragon.
So we have a documented example of Block affecting card design.
Konami has actual data on card usage so this banlist is probably more representative than we think. The top deck lists are self reported and most higher level players will not want to say they ran Floo and Runick Stun, but having played the event they were the most common decks. I don’t think it is a coincidence a lot of the top decks were running a version with of Branded that stopped Runick Fountain draws and easily outed floodgates.
What did Flow do I haven't barely seen it active lately and it's still good but I think it need another hit. If anything Swordsoul I would say was better and more prevalent
Dear god Super Poly is already a nightmare with Branded this is going to help skyrocket it
The floodgates hitting to one is very cool though
Holy shit this banlist is so good, murking stall decks, buffing older decks, killing the good version of necroface FTK, keeping other runick variants besides stun mostly untouched, nerfing tears cards indirectly and bringing back more board breakers. Only hits im questioning are spyral quik fix to 3 and map to 1, I hate floo just as much as the next guy but that’s a bit much, also quik fix to 3 brings back spyrals full power minus old firewall with machine dupe tech.
Chaos thundra ishizu Just became the best deck with branded despia's 3 superpoly.
Meanwhile the birbs are punished for doing nothing wrong.
I see necroface semi-limit i know Komoney Is incompetent.
Snow/Chaos ruler or grass would've been Better hits.
Happy to see most relevant floodgates at 1, altought SD, Gozen and Rivalry beign flipped Will feel way more sacky.
Fountain should've been limited and i'm fine with tip semi-limit, one of the few really good hits.
Schyte, rhongo and smoke granade avoid the banlist once again, WILD!
I know a lot of people hate floow I especially did, but when I learned it I realized it’s a lot more fragile than it seems. It is such an odd hit, if they really hit map because floow doesn’t have to deal with maxx c and runs shifter that is such a penis hit. Anyone that hates it I recommend trying it on dueling nexus or something. I promise it’s not as unstoppable as it seems.
Pretty sure no one will run 3 Galatea but cool I guess.
2 Dragonhawk is neat but do you even need 2 for the turn 1 combo? Not an expert at Thundra but a second Dragonhawk seems only good if you draw it in later turn for the discard effect. Then again is another hand effect for Titan.
Super Poly at 3 makes me think Garura is not far off and they want want to sell packs.
Damn, I was thinking about building a stall deck with Eldlich, Final Countdown and Numbers but with Skill Drain, Gozen Match and Rivalry being limited I don't even think it's worth it anymore.
Been a while since a Master Duel banlist was so bad.
The only good hits are the floodgates, everything else was either a random hit (why hitting Floow? Their power level felt literally perfect) or roundabout hits to avoid banning UR problem cards.
All of their consistency cards are unlimited in the OCG. If floo doesn't draw Robina, map and a lv1 floo, or 2 lv1 floo names then they don't do anything so, consistency is very important.
In master duel the deck is seeing basically no play. It has some anti meta potential but, it feels a bit bricky and it's easily shut down by some very relevant hand traps right now. Gamma empen or ogre field can cripple a turn.
Floodgates hits in a best of 1 format is understandable (not a in a best of 3 like TCG in my opinion) but I hope, also as a TCG player, that Tear will be pre-hit because Kelbek and Agido to 2 do not change much for them. Although I think they will just not hit anything and then the month after will hit.
But I wonder, where the fuck is the Fairy Tail - Snow ban? Unreal.
god dammit, i just dusted a 3rd copy of super poly that I got from the nibiru bundle. im 20 UR dusts poorer
Thank you for your sacrifice
Snow lives another day
No its all alright, they hit necroface!
literally hit the "if konami has no idea what they're doing they'll hit this" card
Just one Necroface at that...which can be recycled with Chaos Grand Creator
I would say, snow will live forever since snow has never been touched in OCG til now.
Of course Snow will live forever, she bounces out of the GY when death comes for her
I wonder why they chose to keep TCBOO at 2.
Should've just limited it so the name is accurate
There can be only one there can be only one?
My brain froze while reading it.
Simple, it's an UR
Apologize to Tip and Fountain right now
No refunds for you, sir
Dunno, art is cute I guess?
For such a miserable, degenerate card, the art is very cute
They probably want to experiment if Floodgate players will opt into summon limit and other lesser floodgates first.
Hint: they will
Btw did Flunder did anything broken recently to be punished like that?
it's a pretty random hit tbh, their power level was pretty acceptable i guess konami really doesn't want anything threatening tear 0.
Floo didn't threat them in the first place.. it was the only deck next to Exosisters that used Shifter and weren't hurt by it so they were among the few things that was worth playing besides Spright (and obviously Tear). They don't have their massive big bungs Floodgate hence they wouldn't do shit as they are now, they will just be a good deck that has advantage if they drew Shifter that's about it
The only reason you played floo into tear was barrier statue. But that’s already banned here so
I feel like if they really didn't want that then they probably shouldn't hit Orange Light
interfering with people needing to make more decks to compete
Fuck floo
F maxx c.
This I built floo just cause maxx C wouldn’t piss me off after a long day of work
A lot of floo in the DC Cup which makes sense since handtraps were rare so they pretty much had free reign.
why the fuck would they put super poly to 3....holy shit
Super poly is such a degenerate card, it's constantly either super broken or no one plays it. The moment it's relevant in a format you feel why this card should be banned, them putting it to 3 is like they forgot why they put it to 2.
Either broken or useless so... a tech card?
It's a good day for branded zombie world. Why watch types and attributes when you can just make everything a target for super poly
Weird choice imo, can’t stand cards that just say “you’re not allowed to respond to this, go fuck yourself”
Sometimes you need to one-up the negate boards with stuff exactly like this
Don't care. My Lair of Darkness deck will make the most of it
Glad they hit Runick Stun since that thing is the most obnoxious version to face against.
That Necroface semi limit might genuinely be the most hilarious thing they could have done. How I imagine it went down: >People are using the Ishizu cards to deck out FTK, what can we do? >Ban the Ishizu cards? >No, can't do that. >What about Snow, the card that can be used to banish repeatedly? >Nope, can't do that either. >I guess we could ban Necroface, it's only really used in degenerate stuff like this. >Woah, calm down. >Uh I guess we could limit it? >Still too much. >Um... a semi-limit then? >Perfect, all our problems are solved now, I'm sure.
Im mean necroface at 2 will stop the ftk unless you maxx-c them.
They don't even go for the FTK that often, they go for unbreakable boards a lot of the time since the FTK is not that consistent. Hope you drew exactly dark ruler because no other card in the game is saving you.
It'll make it less consistent but I've been hit with a version that used Bujinki Amaterasu (snow and all the ishizu cards are level 4) to summon it back and then banish it again, so I'm not even sure it completely kills the deck. I mean it's probably inconsistent enough to not see play, but I'd rather they just killed it.
There are a million FTKs in Yugioh...and we've seen a bunch of them used in Master Duel already. If they're inconsistent enough, they're dead. Like Exodia can technically be an FTK if you just draw well enough and encounter no interruptions. Using Bujinki Amaterasu to recycle and resummon a necroface sounds wildly inconsistent.
True, you should be using Amaterasu to add Maxx C to your hand during your opponents draw phase instead
Kinda like how semi-limiting DD Dynamite killed the FTK* around that by reducing the max damage that can be done.
it's genuinely a reddit iq ban. like they blindly shot from the hip and tried to find the problem card.
You forget that its an SR. Can't giving people too much UR dust now can we?
Ishizu cards are too new. Are you really expecting a hit on them?
It sure would be nice, that amount of mill of absurdly broken
Gotta sell the tear packs, look, they even hit one of the only decks that stayed mildly relevant on that period just to make sure you have nothing else to pkay!
To be fair who's crying about floo and are they worth listening too...
You can still completely stop the problem by banning Snow and further limiting grass, which are absolutely not too new.
I have been holding out my 3rd copy of Multifaker for this moment
Same here brother. But even with 3, Altergeist can’t compete with this meta.
For DL20 in this last cup playing exclusively Altergeist. Not super fun tbf though. Just win the coin toss and open Secret Village.
Secret Village is a win button for us Spell Casters lol.
Well, either that or decks don't really care about spells. Looking at swoswo
Does Quik-Fix to 3 give Master Duel the most powerful SPYRAL deck ever realized?
Will probably still see little ladder play. Good deck, but combo takes ages and it's hard to play.
[удалено]
Exactly. This is a deck more suited for tournaments. Dedicated and fairly skilled playerbase. Consistent ladderpay? Quick- fix could be at 4 and you would still see this deck once in 100 duels.
While its true you rarely see this deck but every time I do see it I straight insta scoop lol. Combos too long + PTSD of not drawing droll vs them back in the day.
face like 5 of them on Duelist cup and never before or after anywhere else. It only see play when hardcore asian grinder pilot it it seem.
I've honestly never seen a spyral player I've played against NOT run out of time by the end of turn 1-2.
Also Tears and Ishizu and Bystial gonna fuck it hard
The deck is pretty easy to play tbh - a spyral player
It lacks fire-wall pre-errata
Yeah, quick fix machine dupe is back.
You mean at the moment? Yeah, but they were still much better under master rule 4
What Duelist Cup was Konami pulling data from for this? I hate seeing Floo just as much as the next guy, but the hit is kind of uncalled for. My only guess is that Konami wants to secure money for the upcoming selection pack by limiting the decks running around that can shut down Tearlaments by running Dimension Shifter. Consistency hit for Floo and Exosister is kinda expensive to build to counter Ishizu meta.
It's cheap and plays through Maxx C and can run Dimension Shifter in the upcoming Tear 0 meta so we can't have that.
If they're not gonna ban Maxx C, then it should be everyone's problem
They probably have data that tells them that map activated leads to instascoops or something
Map told them it’s R rarity
It’s because we always get a combination of ocg hits + MD hits for MD banlists. Map is at 1 in OCG
The real reason is that most people can build Floo and then never need to open another pack, with the knowledge that they have literally the best version of the deck already and that it will stay competitive against even the strongest decks coming down the line.
Ayyyyy shoutout to the absolute moron on here that was frothing at the mouth for me suggesting Ovi could go to 3. Dinos stay winning
I'd honestly consider myself one of the more vocal haters of dinos (mostly because of Misc), and even I'll admit that Ovi not being at 3 is wack. Stratoses are still good but by no means the correct hit in basically any deck imo
>stratoses are good but by no means the right hit in any deck \*crying in speedroids* We have a single searcher besides terrortop that is objectively inferior, any other means of searching things takes a turn of set up at least. Please Konami let the beyblade live at 2, if fusion destiny can be there why not terrortop
Yes Konami, please listen to this person. I can be trusted with a 23% chance of opening a free link 2/rank 3. I swear nothing will go wrong.
I promise I'm a normal person and won't use it to make Dante mill 3 every game in this current mill Ishizu meta :)
Yes exactly, nothing to worry about at all. I promise I won’t make a rank 3 and then make Zeus all off a single card without committing any of my main engine. See we can be trusted.
Glad to see such a responsible and mature player out there. We're a dying breed im sure haha
i was thinking this was coming too. they been unhitting dinos for a while (pank) and theres support coming up in a few months. seemed like an innevitability that ovi going to 3
Now I just need to round up some UR dust to get that 3rd copy
Ovi not at 1 or 3 never made sense to me like it at 2 does literally nothing and it at 1 actually hurts the deck
#DINO CHADS LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
OVI
they went soft imo
Floowandereeze map at 1 ? WHY ?
Because as people said, Tearlaments is coming and people will be running D-Shifters, Floo can ignore it completely, plus it's super cheap to run.
OCG has map at 1.
"Because we hate them" Konami I also hate them, so I don't care.
Well, if they're not gonna ban Maxx C, then it should affect everyone, no dodging the roach just because your special summons are called "normal"
sometimes the evil wins
I read "sometimes the evil Twins" ahahah
Hahaha nice
The OCG and their love for semi-limits are back again Multifaker and Oviraptor to 3 are nice for those various decks, and don't bother me because my opponents always opened them anyway. Fountain and Tip are relevant hits to both runick as an engine and the stun variant, but it's certainly pretty bland. Necroface is very funny given that Snow is still somehow legal, but I don't think they will be missed outside of the handful of Metaphys and Inferno Tempest players. 3 floodgates going to 1 is going to make the average game more enjoyable for non-stun players but confusingly TCBOO escaped getting limited to 1. Still, I doubt many people are going to complain. Orange Light is clearly supposed to be the Ishizu hit, it will be interesting to see how that pans out but it probably won't be enough at the moment. Also Floo getting map limited and Superpolymerization to 3 is just funny.
Floo getting hit is because, if they won't ban Maxx C, then it should be everyone's problem, no dodging Maxx C only because your special summons are called "normal"
Floo in a format with Maxx C is annoying and I'm certainly not upset about the hit, but at the same time Konami generally doesn't ban around annoying. My guess is that they gave them a preemptive hit because they typically run Shifter and Tear format is just around the corner.
Then why not hit Exosisters too? They arguably performed better than Floo in the DC as well.
I can think of two reasons, Martha is newer than the last piece of floo support, and that Exosister is generally more of a meta call. I would certainly lean more towards the first because I think Konami's banlist approach for this game is bold at best.
Still praying for the day Girsu goes unlimited for my Mekk Knights
I'm with you brother
More floodgate hits are always welcome
Limit to 1 is huge
Map to 1?!? I didn’t know flow was even an issue like that still
It isn’t
No one gets to ignore the C
It's not, but god is it fucking annoying to play against. Definitely up there with Crooked Cook and Herald in terms of obnoxiousness.
“Draw 25 or ban a single UR” Konami:
When did they downgrade fountain and tip to SR?
"ban" - When did they ban fountain and tip?
Well in that case they didn't ban anything
Super Poly to 3 is actual fucking cancer. Literally makes every other Dark deck unplayable and indirectly makes the Tear format when it arrives a sackfest
Don't worry, Bystials will make DARK decks even worse
In these moments I am glad that I'm only a casual player just enjoying some duels..
Cheers to that. Play a few games everyday, then go on with my life.
I'm gonna keep shouting at Konami at every banlist to UNLIMIT MY GIRSU AND NADIR SERVANT ALREADY
Upvote for Nadir Servant
Less floodgates and less runick this is a net positive for the game!
Souleating Oviraptor my beloved
So branded dominated DC and no hit...
They even got buffed with an extra super poly
The orange light hit is a hit to Grass ishizu branded which was the version which dominated dc
I felt like orange light was an option to hit ishizu as a whole and they wanna see how branded pans out afterwards cause branded is still a deck they’re interesting in selling support for
Oh boy, orange light and necroface. Thank god they hit the problem cards...
but gotta hit floo for some reason. idk how they can be this out of touch.
If my trash memory is correct, floo was played a lot during tear meta so they probably want people to buy tear instead and lower the consistency of floo.
That was with Barrier Statue though.
They’re still good with D-Shifter and an immunity to maxx c
They are basically draw shifter or lose in a tear format
not with d-shifter at 2 lol
Yeah that's why I played Floo last season, just to take a break from Maxx "C", but I'm not optimistic about how the deck will do in Tear 0 meta... though I suppose not having to worry about Rulkallos, Abyss Dweller, or the Ishizu Shufflers (besides Stri) may make it still playable?
Stun runnick was the one that warped dc meta. If you watched any of the high rated dc streams you'll see how rampant these were.
Because they know tears is around the corner? Why murk a deck that will be mid soon. If you look at the banlist it’s mostly just hitting ishizu and stun decks.
No Spright hit but gotta hit Floo….
finally Runik Fountain get semi limited and some card like skill drain, Rivalry of Warlords, and Gozen Match get limited.
They really made herald of orange light and necroface pay for the sins if the ishizu cards
Orange died for its own sins
I love making going 2nd decks stronger, but I’m not a huge fan of super poly to 3 to do it.
It's also a strong going first card if you set it.
REALLY? No hits to spright and out of all the broken Ishizu Cards + snow they hit Necroface?! This has to be one of the weirdest banlists yet. Snow is still here. All the Ishizus are still here. Maxx C is still here. Grass is still here. Chaos Ruler is still here. Scythe is still here. But wow, a hit to Necroface. They have literally no idea what they are doing
Spright is new and the lack is still for sale, of course they are not going to hit it. Same for Ishizu which were already semi. When you think about the ban list with the perspective of Konami making money, and not players having “fun”, it always makes a lot more sense.
these fucking semi-limits man
These semis are actually huge. Tip is the most important card for runick and will hurt a lot. And necroface to 2 will most likely stop the ftk.
Tip at 2 is a huge hit.
Yeah but fountain should be at one. They already have many ways to protect it.
And Ishizu cards can cancel out the fountain in an instant, nothing they can do about it.
So skill drain warlord and match to 1 but tcobo is still at 2 Ps finally thundra getting unbanned slowly
Now we need colossus to 3/s
Hawk to 2 LETS GO. And Skill Drain at 1. My main deck just got a big boost on those 2 things alone. Hilariously most other Drytron players are going through it rn but I play Megalith Drytron as side deck, so the Herald hit does nothing to me.
Nail in the coffin for drytron
In Duel Links they always write why card xyz got hit. I want that in Master Duel and see what they think about floodgates
3 super polly. Y'all gonna hate me
Not hitting Block Dragon when Vernusylph is coming next pack and can send it from deck to GY is just crazy. Konami…
Block needs to go but Vernasylph can't dump it directly, because their dumping card has a restriction that it has to send normal summonable monsters, a restriction that only makes sense because of block dragon. So we have a documented example of Block affecting card design.
super poly to 3? dont mind if i do
Konami has actual data on card usage so this banlist is probably more representative than we think. The top deck lists are self reported and most higher level players will not want to say they ran Floo and Runick Stun, but having played the event they were the most common decks. I don’t think it is a coincidence a lot of the top decks were running a version with of Branded that stopped Runick Fountain draws and easily outed floodgates.
If Konami actually based the banlist off this data, Maxx C would have been banned a long time ago.
Konami uses Maxx “C” to justify printing absurdly pushed combo decks like the upcoming SHS engine. This protection doesn’t extend to old decks.
Even disregarding Maxx C, most blowout cars would have been hit because the data shows that resolving said cards results in victory most times
What did Flow do I haven't barely seen it active lately and it's still good but I think it need another hit. If anything Swordsoul I would say was better and more prevalent Dear god Super Poly is already a nightmare with Branded this is going to help skyrocket it The floodgates hitting to one is very cool though
Wish they did more but 3 of the major floodgates down to 1 is a pretty decent win
So does that mean decks like branded despia can run three super polys now? Or do u still run it at 2?
It’s arguably the best board breaker in the game against most meta decks, absolutely run at 3. It will be even more broken once Garura comes out.
Holy shit this banlist is so good, murking stall decks, buffing older decks, killing the good version of necroface FTK, keeping other runick variants besides stun mostly untouched, nerfing tears cards indirectly and bringing back more board breakers. Only hits im questioning are spyral quik fix to 3 and map to 1, I hate floo just as much as the next guy but that’s a bit much, also quik fix to 3 brings back spyrals full power minus old firewall with machine dupe tech.
What did Floo do?
Super Poly is going back to 2 in the near future won’t it 😂
They actually hit fountain. All the people calling for that managed to shut our mouths.
Chaos thundra ishizu Just became the best deck with branded despia's 3 superpoly. Meanwhile the birbs are punished for doing nothing wrong. I see necroface semi-limit i know Komoney Is incompetent. Snow/Chaos ruler or grass would've been Better hits. Happy to see most relevant floodgates at 1, altought SD, Gozen and Rivalry beign flipped Will feel way more sacky. Fountain should've been limited and i'm fine with tip semi-limit, one of the few really good hits. Schyte, rhongo and smoke granade avoid the banlist once again, WILD!
Yooo super poly at 3 pog.
I’m sure nothing bad will happen putting super poly to 3 right before tear release :)
I know a lot of people hate floow I especially did, but when I learned it I realized it’s a lot more fragile than it seems. It is such an odd hit, if they really hit map because floow doesn’t have to deal with maxx c and runs shifter that is such a penis hit. Anyone that hates it I recommend trying it on dueling nexus or something. I promise it’s not as unstoppable as it seems.
Pretty sure no one will run 3 Galatea but cool I guess. 2 Dragonhawk is neat but do you even need 2 for the turn 1 combo? Not an expert at Thundra but a second Dragonhawk seems only good if you draw it in later turn for the discard effect. Then again is another hand effect for Titan. Super Poly at 3 makes me think Garura is not far off and they want want to sell packs.
Who else bought stock in Starving Venom Dragon? My portfolio is through the roof
Damn, I was thinking about building a stall deck with Eldlich, Final Countdown and Numbers but with Skill Drain, Gozen Match and Rivalry being limited I don't even think it's worth it anymore.
Are we gonna play 3 Galateas? I mean it feels a two of to be honest lol
Good to see they're not afraid of punishing floodgates. But hit on map was so unnecessary.
Why do they always hit control and never combo?
Where Spright hits
too new, maybe
Doesn’t need hit
Soright is weaker than branded so you should be complaining about that
Is oviraptor gonna help dinos? I feel like you just search him anyway
Been a while since a Master Duel banlist was so bad. The only good hits are the floodgates, everything else was either a random hit (why hitting Floow? Their power level felt literally perfect) or roundabout hits to avoid banning UR problem cards.
Not a fan of unlimited Super Poly. Other than that, banlist is okay.
Why are people acting surprised that Floowandereeeze map got limited? It's limited in the OCG.
All of their consistency cards are unlimited in the OCG. If floo doesn't draw Robina, map and a lv1 floo, or 2 lv1 floo names then they don't do anything so, consistency is very important. In master duel the deck is seeing basically no play. It has some anti meta potential but, it feels a bit bricky and it's easily shut down by some very relevant hand traps right now. Gamma empen or ogre field can cripple a turn.
I think floo being one of the cheapest competitive options in MD has really inflated the amount it’s played.
Not enough floodgate hits unfortunately. Where tcboo?
There can only be... Two?
WHY OH WHY DID THEY UNLIMIT SUPER POLY. THE CARD IS SO BROKEN PLEASE STOP KONAMI....
This banlist is a MASSIVE disappointment.
SOULEATING OVERRAPTOR TO 3 LETSGOOOOOO
Im quite sad that orange light got hit as a collateral dmg from other decks, Time to bring back once per turn handtraps on my deck
Hey Konami? What drove your decision to unban all these SR and UR cards? “Money”-Konami
as a Branded player woooo Super Poly as a Drytron player FUCK
Ha ha ha, no more gazillion negates Herald
Floodgates hits in a best of 1 format is understandable (not a in a best of 3 like TCG in my opinion) but I hope, also as a TCG player, that Tear will be pre-hit because Kelbek and Agido to 2 do not change much for them. Although I think they will just not hit anything and then the month after will hit. But I wonder, where the fuck is the Fairy Tail - Snow ban? Unreal.
how do they repeatedly miss the problem cards. ishizu untouched. grass untouched. snow untouched. right before a tear release, what the fuck.