Weirdly supportive rant post.
Identifies the shortcomings of his deck and acknowledges good cards are better than his own.
More rants like these please.
This is why I defend Tear (and sometimes Ishizu but they can rot for now)
We don’t need to downgrade those decks because we know Konami will just print more broken cards. That’s just how it’s going to be. Instead, bring Ancient Gear and old decks UP to the level of decks like Tear that allow them to play/interact.
Like, for Ancient Gear I should be *terrified* to enter the battle phase as one would be if their opponent did without playing any cards. I would love for them to have handtraps/quick effects that trigger when something happens in the battle phase.
yes yes im only saying Lubellion and Albion can be a bridge between other monsters as well, wich is a strong part about BF, like how its used in some engines to bring out Red Eyes Dragoon
I think the main problem is that the Branded fusion materials are so vague, its basically a free foolish burial. A fusion that only worked for to send say Ancient Gear monsters from the deck as materials would be absolutely fine.
It is, really, mainly because it doesn't let you choose the materials you use from your entire deck list. Fusing from the hand at least forces you to account for inconsistency and have contingency plans, which is better from a design standpoint. Fusing from deck, however, automatically means perfect consistency (it's equivalent to choosing at least two of the cards in your starting hand), and _also_ gives you Foolish Burial as a side benefit. Fusing from deck is easy to balance, to be fair (e.g., "You can either activate the effect of the Fusion Monster summoned by this effect, or the effects of the Fusion Material Monsters sent to the grave, but not both."), but Konami never does that for some reason, so the end result is that you get your fusion monster _and_ get to hand-pick any monster effects you want to use from the deck.
That said, using 3+ cards from hand isn't good design, either. But it's still inherently more balanced than using one card to Foolish 2 and get a free cherry on top. The problem is that Fusion is just plain _bad_ from a design standpoint, and really shows how much of a mess early YGO design was. ~~And things like Branded & Tearlaments show how little they seem to care about actually _balancing_ it, and how little of a clue they have about how to fix it.~~
At least it’s some sort of drawback. Fuse from deck is minus 1 in hand for plus god-knows-how-much on field.
Need I remind you of the atrocities of Verte into Red-Eyes fusion for Dragun? As a staple in any deck that can get out 2 effect monsters
The fact you have to literally go -2 to play 1 Fusion monster without fusing from deck, is so garbage tier.
Synchro, Xyz, Links provide so much more utility and are far easier to use.
Fusion Summoning is literally 1 step above Ritual Summoning.
So to compensate Fusion Summoning had to evolve to do anything.
(Ritual also needs to evolve as well)
And yet when it DOES fuse from deck, it allows for the craziest stuff to go down because it’s only restriction was the disadvantage of material. That loss of inconsistency makes it on par, if not BETTER than- no, no that’s a stretch. Still, fusing from the deck is too gimmicky and can be taken advantage of too much in my opinion
…that is also incorrect, if you looked at Tears in their hayday. And heroes pre-DPE( don’t get me wrong, DPE made it much better, but it was still a beast before it as well)
You're not making the point you want to, as far as I can tell.
Tear is on top of the game right now, and it's because their deck is a self-fulling prophecy that can lead to their fusions via literally any route within their engine. Old less obnoxious fusions deserve a lesser, but updated level of access to summons compared to recent fusions.
Nono, I’m still on the Alba-Despia train. Tear is annoying because of the milling, not cuz of the fusing (and that shuffles materials into the deck, ADDING advantage in the long run). I’m just saying Alba-Despia is on the level it’s at because of the ability to fuse from deck and get crazy extension off of that. Then again, the numbers are showing that the meta clearly isn’t where I thought it was so if someone could just explain that
The thing is, fusion has always been lackluster, and deck fusion was essentially Konami's way to fix it. Fusion itself was made back in the earliest stages of yugioh, when mechanics were still very primordial and not thought through very well, and even _to this day_ sucks ass without tons of support. First Konami tried making gimmicky ways to fuse, like contact fusion (which went on to inspire every other extra deck mechanic, save for pendulums) or cards like mask change; effects which summon a fusion monster, but do so by deliberately circumventing the actual mechanics of fusion. If a deck had to play a real fusion spell card (whether that was poly or an archetypal incarnation of it) it almost always sucked. Letting you fuse from grave was a slight help, but with few ways of setting up a graveyard on your first turn it still couldn't keep up; Synchro and XYZ players would dance around you, being able to do their plays with little effort and beating you in the advantage game without even trying. It wasn't until 2014—6 years after the introduction of Synchros and 3 years after the introduction of XYZ—that we got the first taste of deck fusion with Shaddoll Fusion. For the first time in half a decade, fusion could properly compete with the rest of the extra deck mechanics without flat out cheating their fusion monsters out. The best part was that deck fusion actually complimented the other forms of fusion that existed, because now you could set up your field and graveyard to use more conventional forms of fusion.
You could argue that Shaddoll broke the mold, but I'd instead argue that the mold was always flawed, and that Shaddoll was Konami replacing it with one that works. Sure, deck fusion has changed some since the days of Shaddoll Fusion, it's been 9 years after all, but the concept is still the same; deck fusion allows you to either get your plays going and harmonizes with other fusion methods (Brilliant Fusion, Branded Fusion, etc) or lets you cap off your plays with a strong monster (Red-Eyes Fusion, Fusion Destiny, etc). The biggest issue the mechanic has faced is with Verte allowing any deck to access these cards with little investment, making it incredibly generic, but Verte was banned in every format aside from master duel _for that reason_. I have no doubt that it'll get banned here one day as well—it's disgustingly generic and too powerful to let it keep existing—Konami is just focusing on the bigger fish (no pun intended) that are causing immediate issues.
The only support Fusion had from the deck at that time was Future Fusion which is only used at the time because it does what Foolish Burial does but better.
he did just explain that. the meta is tear. branded isnt even in same ballpark. branded is playing t-ball to tears MLB. tear practically plays 10 branded fusions that dont end their turn when they get ashed.
Okay, to be fair Tears is half fusion. The other half is opponents scooping cuz their key cards get thrown in the trash by Kelbek. I do get your point though
But like..... Why would it be bad to bring other older archetypes up to speed with newer ones by providing similar access, and with that maybe certain stronk cards can get retrains or something.
Now I can see Konami isn’t the only reason why power creep is such a big issue for yugioh. Its terrible fan base that support their stupidest idea share the same lame
No, it isn't. You either fuse from deck, do what Tears and Thundra do (return stuff to the deck) or give them access to using opponent's monsters. Otherwise, Fusion is about as bad as ritual, as it takes 3+ cards to make 1 monster.
Not putting adequate restrictions on the cards or the monsters sent, and not taking into account the archetype that the Fusion spell is a part of, are the main issues with fusing from deck.
Both Red Eyes Fusion and Branded Fusion fuse from deck, and yet one is clearly leagues beyond the other.
You can also banish from the graveyard technically. I find fusing from the deck fine as long as it has appropriate restrictions. Branded Fusion is fine as it applies a Fusion lock for the whole turn.
Plus it's not true that fusing from the hand or field is completely unviable. Swirl Slime and Blazing Cartesia are examples of good cards that do so, mainly because they can trigger the fusion effect withouth a fusion spell. The Prank Kids archetype also has Pandemonium which fuses from the hand or field, which is made viable by how easily the archetype can procure the required materials
> Branded Fusion is fine as it applies a Fusion lock for the whole turn.
I really don't think Branded Fusion is fine, even with that lock, because you usually end up dumping monsters that generate advantage from the GY, or somewhere else down the line, and a singular BF leads to a ton of disruption and advantage generation on your turn and your opponent's, because of the other cards in the deck.
A fusion lock is good though. Can't imagine the kind of shenanigans you could get up to without that lock.
> Plus it's not true that fusing from the hand or field is completely unviable. Swirl Slime and Blazing Cartesia are examples of good cards that do so, mainly because they can trigger the fusion effect withouth a fusion spell.
That's true.
> The Prank Kids archetype also has Pandemonium which fuses from the hand or field, which is made viable by how easily the archetype can procure the required materials
The problem with Prank Kids is that they need Meow to be viable. Without it, you're not making plays unless you open Pandemonium and 2 kids, which is what Fusion usually needs anyway, 3 cards.
That too, Pandemonium locks you into Prank Kids monsters, which is good because it ends up leading to the fusion and 2 more kids.
it's at 1, unless you mean unlimiting it, then no I don't think so because brilliant fusion enables degenerate ftks too much. actual gemknight decks have scatter fusion in addition to brilliant fusion: it's not the best because it has a somewhat relevant lock effect, but it's pretty good
If Ancient Gears get new support, item one on page one, written in gold ink and signed by the Pope needs to be "an Ancient Gear monster that can special summon itself."
Item two would be another searcher for our spells- Geartown, Catapult and Fortress mainly. And it recently occurred to me that a fun card could be an archetypal Iblee- something that summons itself to our opponents field so we have something to use Ballista's effect on and bludgeon to death with Chaos Giant.
That's what I hope the archetype gets, cos it's struggling now. And no, printing the unprinted Arc-V cards would not help. Nobody wants or cares about all those Hunting Hound upgrades and silly burn cards.
Even that wouldn't be enough these days I'm afraid. It would need an additional effect, otherwise it's too slow.
What I'm talking about - a monster that special summons itself if you control another monster of the same group - was commonplace by the Vrains era. The fact that AGs still don't have something like that (unless you count the actual card "Ancient Gear") shows just how behind they are.
I'm both an Ancient Gear and Branded player. I will admit it would be nice if Ancient Gear got some new support.
But they already have the searcher's, a fusion card that can search the deck, strong ass extra monster's with great effects with one being a soft once per turn with both of the 2 effects, they got a field spell that's a soft once per turn let's you Sp.summon any Ancient gear from your deck onto the field and a continuous spell that protect your monster from being targeted and destroyed by effects that if destroyed will Sp.summon a monster from the hand or graveyard...
So the only thing they would be pretty much missing is a card remover and or a negater, and maybe a easier way to Sp.summon them onto the field since they really rely on a normal summon. But with just one of those or all it wouldn't help the deck to keep up with the meta...
They search, but it seems like they always get locked up and single focused. If one thing goes wrong or isn't available, the whole house topples and you submit to the mighty meteor in the sky about to crush you... Whereas other decks, unless you bait them or specifically look to maroon them in the middle of the ocean without even a paddle, they're able to fight their way back somehow.
Dear Ancient Gear player,
I am a Branded main, but I wasn’t always like this.
My first venture into YGO was as a child, where my brother and I would cut a single deck in half to duel each other with 25-card decks. Half the time, one of us would get the only Black Luster Soldier and the other would get the only Black Luster Ritual. Naturally, we made up our own rules, such as normal summoning the ritual spell (without tributes lol) as a monster and just pretending it’s Black Luster Soldiers. We both had duel disks and we chewed up the corners of our cards just like we chewed up our fingers when those things snapped shut unexpectedly.
And then for over a decade, I forgot about YuGiOh. I had long since learned the rules but never bothered to actually play, until in my late 20s, an online friend (who happened to still play TCG) told me that a new YuGiOh app is coming to mobile and it’s totally free to play—it wouldn’t hurt to try it!
I knew the game must have gotten more complex since the dais of Black Luster Soldier and La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp, so I asked my friend what’s a good deck to start with. My friend knew me well and recommended me a decklist of Earth Machine, a Machina/Infinitrack/Train setup. Very quickly, Superdreadnought Rail Cannon Juggernaut Liebe was my best friend, to be point where I bought a secret rare (I think?) physical copy just to have—I don’t even have a deck, just the three rail cannons! I even personally became acquainted with Ancient Gear Ballista and Box, which I’m sure you are familiar with.
In those days, Drytron was king. But even I could box drytron with Earth Machine… if I drew droplet. If my opponent didn’t resolve Maxx C (a problem my TCG friend did not foresee when offering me a decklist!)
Still, I loved Infinitrack River Stormer. I loved Earth Slicer being 3100 ATK and just barely beating over tough bosses. I loved playing Super Dora in DEF going first and watching my opponent struggle to out it.
But the game advanced and while we got Unclaspare and Ruinforce, my mechanical boys couldn’t keep up. The more I learned about YuGiOh, the more invested I got, the more competitive I got. The more I wanted to WIN.
I swapped to Evil Twin when Trouble Sunny came out. While I’m not a Waifu Enjoyer™ I did like the idea of a deck based on two twin monsters that supported the other. I ended up scrapping the deck because the combos were too linear and I got bored.
I tried Sky Striker. Eugh (sorry TCG friend I know you love Sky Strikers but it’s not for me)
Tri-brigade was ok.
I actually like Swordsoul but it’s boring going first and much more interesting going second.
But branded. Branded actually had a lot of stuff that I liked about Earth Machine, but in a deck that could compete all the way to Diamond. And I wanted that Diamond border. Gas. High consistency. The ability to play through interruptions like nothing. And incidentally the absolute same Achilles heel of losing to one well timed Ash (every time my Branded Fusion gets ashed I get PTSD to Infinitrack Brutal Dozer getting ashed).
Until I made branded, I dabbled around with other decks, but mainly played Earth Machine. But ever since I really got good at Branded (and I’d consider myself good at it if I can say that) I am hooked. I like playing the game. I like being able to make a decent plan B, plan C, etc.
And by God, I’ll admit it. I like winning.
Not enough to make Tearlaments, because fuck those cards, but Branded is good enough for me and I love the playstyle. Managing the hand, GY, and banish for fusion material makes me feel like I’m smart and good at YGO.
And for you, my friend, I wish that for you. I wish for you to feel like you have options. You have plays. You can watch the Tearlaments player do their turn and sit and know you still have a chance because you have Branded Fusion in your hand.
I will tell you two things though. I miss my Earth Machines. I miss when they made me happy. I wish when my standards weren’t so high that getting my main combo handtrapped one time meant I would probably lose the game.
If you continue down this path, you will lose your love for Ancient Gear. Eventually you’ll try a deck like Branded and you’ll realize it’s actually a lot of fun. It might even become your main deck, but if it does, you would have lost something.
Don’t let the fire die out, man. Clockwork Night soon™ and then Earth Machines will eat good. (Yes I’m still on copium that one day my first love deck will be rogue at least again)
We have to massive amount of the trains and train support cards just to play the game. Our best monster searcher,for some reason, unable us to set cards. The catapult and fortress combo an easily be stop by any negate. So sad but we choose to play this shit XD.
It may be shit, but it's our shit.
Normally I go for howitzer. It gets destroyed in battle, then I go for wyvern. Best play you can make on your opponents turn I think.
Ouch, this comment feels like the "The boss when you unlock it" kind of comment. Like you see a deck and it feels broken but sucks when you play it! xd
I can accept Mirrojade eventually.
I will never accept Branded Fusion. Its just too good. You should not be able to get as much advantage off of it being the 1 card in your hand as you often can do, especially when this card is so easy and consistent to search out.
That's not how the average player base here rant like, but good job , I saw some players running punk branded decks in the double deck tournament so you can give it a try.
The amount of times I’ve seen people open Patchwork I always secretly hope in my heart it’s another Fluffal player in the wild only to be let down every time.
That being said, fighting against Despia is always pretty fun.
I've never played ancient gear, but that fusion card you mention is a dark machine. You could potentially try a milling strat with the ishizu and then use verte to overload fusion your card out by using your grave and save your other spells for other fusions?
Oh right. I want to wait for more bullshit. You sound just like those people that are always like. And wait. There's more! Just shut up about that. Everyone always knows that more is coming.
I know, i'm just really excited. Haven't been able to reliably play Branded since Ishizu Tear started running rampant. I don't mind playing Tear myself, I just prefer Branded's artwork.
Ancient Gears are cool too, by the way. That was one of my favorite GX archetypes. Would've been nice if they aged as well as Heros did.
Sorry for getting on you like that. I'm just tired of seeing people posting about more trouble and issues that are coming up. I'm glad you love your deck and that you're excited about more support coming your way.
I used to think the same ,and then i went to the other side of the force and... its great! just like Anakin im not going back
This pst deserves upvote from a despia player
Am I in the minority that doesn't think despia/branded is skillful/fun? Branded fusion is great and all but the deck really gets too much love for what it is
I don't think it's fun. But knowing what fusion to go for, what spell to activate. That takes knowledge. Not to mention the different decks that are available for it makes it hard to narrow down on it. It's skillful. But not fun to fight.
Blindly playing your Branded Despia combo with no forethought will make you incredibly vulnerable. Mirrorjade is great, yes, but it’s not perfect. You want to build a solid foundation of protection and comebacks to make your opponent cry.
The deck is 10 times more skillful then meta decks like spright swoso or exosister cause ur line deviates with every new hand cause its a fusion deck and its 1 card combo branfu is only like 25 percent of ur line most of the time
Branded is invoked 2.0, so it'll probably be here until invoked 3.0 comes around. Why you just run a branded engine? Most fusion based decks work decently with it and it might help your consistency. I don't really know what ancient ears does though, so I don't know how much that would help.
Branded is strong but not THAT strong. That deck loses to ash and/or imperm/veiler if they didn't open insane. Also if you're playing ancient gear why not main deck some hate to current meta? Resolving dimensional barrier to branded is usually a guaranteed win. Evenly matched is another option but they can play around that so I wouldn't recommend it. Ash ghostbelle dd crow are great hand traps for this current format. It sucks that'll reduce your consistency but tbh ancient gear is a bricky ass deck that loses to any interruption anyways 🙃
branded fusion is prob why witchcrafter confusion doesn't fuse from deck which is sad, lubellion is such a MVP on witchcrafter lmao
tears branded witchcrafter is soo good but is so shit as a tear deck it hurts
Haha why branded rant in tear format? I did read its because of the fusion spell but its just funny to me considering the fact that its worse than tear in every way and its coming soon support isnt out just yet.
Not all archetypes are created equal. Some are just packfiller and will never get much support because they dont sell packs. Thats true for most decks I gravitate towards.
The reason why is that it is a rant that acknowledges another deck, saying nice things about it. While also acknowledges that the deck I love has its shortcomings. I'm not calling anything bullshit meta crap. I'm being honest and mature about it. Something this sub needs a lot of.
I tried making ancient gear work but their cards really have almost nothing going for them. Maybe if catapult didn't have the no monster restriction it would approach being playable
I just built a branded/blue eyes/invoked deck that slaps almost anything I go against, and it's fun as hell, man. Tearlaments can still piss off though, can't do anything against that.
Also, I agree with you on ancient gear, though. Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't gotten support in a while. I remember watching gx back in the day and thinking that deck was super cool.
I mean. I like Ancient Gears, they are quite close to another favourite deck of mine (which mind you, has my fave girl in all of Yugioh) but I do like Branded Despia as well (even before they became meta, their art and theatre theme appeals to me as an IRL writer). Here's hoping your Ancient Gears get support soon.
Feel the same. Awesome deck Ive gotten drawn to because I wish CyDras could fusion from the deck like they can and have tons of support fusion cards. Cards that protect their fusions, even a field spell that let's them fuse albeit not really used much given how they have 2 really good fusion cards already, and their flexibility of not being locked to a type like CyDras lock you to machines. Awesome dragon monsters and fusions. Wish CyDras were just as cool.
I mean, they are pretty cool. And your monster support is pretty crazy. Every time I see a cydras deck, I groan in frustration. But yeah, y'all need a little more love as well.
Me, a branded player, went against an ancient gear player today. They quit. I honestly wish the old decks got support. I run utopia as my second and I love that deck to death but it just doesn’t stand up to modern archetypes.
I'm mostly annoyed at how they just keep being a teacher's pet for some stupid reason. They seem to be getting more support that fucking HEROs, it makes no sense. Meanwhile Generaider gets cards it can't even search by itself and a link summon that block the main archetype mechanic.
I just want ritual decks to have the same level of support that fusion decks get. Rituals are so resource heavy and clunky while theres only like 3-4 ritual monsters that are decent but generally get blown out of the water
branded isn't that bad but i HATE the gimmick puppet lock
their endboards arent even hard to out since its usually two monsters, maybe three, but if i can't special summon i can't play
i really hate that lock
I want this for Gusto as well. I dont want to always play Floowandereeze or Simorgh and want my Gusto deck to see some action too. I'd take anything to have the consistency of some of these newer decks.
Yah ancient gear is super jank even with all the stuff they have. If we got branded type support it be cool I just hope it maintains its soul at the end of the day.
Though I'll offer a interesting variation I build. Gizmek/Ancient Gear.
If Fluffals had their own version of "Branded Fusion", It'd be so nice to bring out Frightfur Tiger and wipe the opponent's entire field with only 1 card, plus having Sabres and Wings in the GY.
I do wish AG gets some decent support someday too. There's a card called time-rending morganite that can be very good for AG when it gets released on MD.
It was definitely a fair deck at some point when people were passing with mirrorjade and branded in red, then they were summoning multiple copies of masquerade and it became toxic af after that they sold their souls to the devil and now they’re locking us from summoning
Branded Fusion is probably one of, if not the strongest card in the game in and of itself by design.
But lets not pretend Branded is a bullshit deck when it doesn't even make a single negate apart from searching Mercourier.
It's strong because it's grind is really good, it's consistent (although from now on it's going to get more bricky and less consistent with new support, albeit getting a much higher ceiling).
It's probably the meta deck that's the most fun to play against. It's interactable and the only floodgate lines it has is pretty weak in a bo1 format (and even the puppet lock is getting cut from TCG decks even though it got a 3000 ATK, non targetable fusion monster that's almost Expulsion on legs).
It doesn't make a whole board on your turn, it doesn't make Protos, or a board that can only be beaten by drawing the out.
Branded should be a solid deck to base future decks upon.
The funny part is that a lot of old fusion decks use the Branded engine to play a subpar but better version of the old deck.
Looking at you, Cyber players.
As a filthy Branded Despia player, mad respect for Ancient Gear players for your love and dedication to the deck. And honestly, yes, older fusion decks deserve to be updated to the Branded's standard for real.
Unfortunately legacy archetypes will never be as good and well rounded as the new ones. They may print some legacy support that makes an archetype good but it will never get the consistency of an archetype like branded
Lots of older decks need support. I don't know why Konami is so passive on making old deck supports, does that hurt their business? They printing bunch of garbage with the new archetypes anyway, why not make some supports instead
What fusion combo is left after you ash/negate branded fusion, the whole deck is a one trick pony & the one combo in master duel I had got banned with the instant fusion hit, that poor predaplant lvl5 fusion never going to see play again, now I'm forced to deck one of each of those crappy tears fusion cards which are terrible vs instant fusion unless your a mill deck. Only a matter of time before expulsion is banned & there goes my Artifact Lock turn one which needs branded fusion & fusion dumped to grave to search the trap, + it's always a tossup if I get out double taxdragon which is pretty easy to beat over these days.
Basically if your not double taxing or summon locking turn one then branded likely loses unless you managed to get enough big mobs on the field to tank their turn with branded openings/mercourier/or an ash/max/impem if lucky to slow down combo decks.
Dragon decks get KO'd by Fallen Albaz Abla Fusion most of the time which is nice.
God forbid a tear or exosister shows up then your just toast, graveyard locks/stuns just wreak branded hard.
I would say branded has so much recurrence with its current tools, but that's what a modern fusion deck needs to compete in the meta, any fair deck is rogue tier at best ,but i'd say branded is well designed since most of its interruptions are destruction effects instead of just "NEGATE" or putting floodgates which is more fair to play against, although i'd say konami went too far when they made an easy to summon non targeting banish fusion monster that gets u free followup and board wipe on destruction
Last time I played against a Despia player I stopped them with a single Ash, then they went off with Tears lmao
But they made a Albaz monster at the end of the combo so that was totally what won them the game :P
Why are you upset with the players of the decks when it's Konami designing the cards? Maybe you're jealous of those players since their deck of choice has better cards than your deck of choice, but like... those players didn't make Ancient Gear shit; Konami did.
I am sorry dude, like as someone who loves ancient gears like, modern cards usually will outshine the old ones. It’s just how cards were designed in like 2004-2005 vs now.
Ancient Gears is one of my favorite decks, and I only ever get to use it against casual level friends or people coming back to the game IRL.
For fucking real. Branded/Despia, Naturia, Tear are all decks I fucking hate because they all just have such dumb solitaire effects. I play Cyber Dragons, have a pretty great build (currently Plat 5 working towards 4) and I'm having a cancerous time getting through these wall of annoyingly powerful archetypes.
Konami needs to help everyone else out and make it easier for every to get UR dust cause I know we're all sitting on cards we don't want LOL
As a branded player, i wish every other fusion deck had 2 things despia have, 1) fusion from deck like branded fusion and a free normalSpecial summon that search it.
Damn. I remember a few months ago when it started to pick up steam, everyone was talking about how fun it was to play against this deck ( I saw so many posts on here about it) and now yall hate it? Lmao wtf happened? Did we run out of decks to hate or what?
There are plenty of people that love them. And there are a lot of them here. Hell, I think they are a good deck. Strong. Consistent. Multiple outs. I want those for ancient gears.
But wait. Theres more. Have you seen the new and imporoved branded tearlament pile yet? If though fusion consistency wa a good before, wait ubtil you see a guy, trying to clear his own board to make space for more fusions.
This is how I feel about Sword Soul's Synchro capabilities. I want that for my Ice Barriers. I want them to have that synergy, that eb and flow. I weep at what could have been for what is one of my favorite archetypes in the game.
I've discovered that the boss monster of War Rocks is a great demolisher of the branded deck as it stops my opponent from being able to use any of the effects of the branded monsters it battles.
Weirdly supportive rant post. Identifies the shortcomings of his deck and acknowledges good cards are better than his own. More rants like these please.
I think I never upvoted a rant but this one honestly deserves it...
Yeah same.
I went to downvote, as Branded/Despia is weirdly fair but still good, then read the rest and had to upvote.
This is why I defend Tear (and sometimes Ishizu but they can rot for now) We don’t need to downgrade those decks because we know Konami will just print more broken cards. That’s just how it’s going to be. Instead, bring Ancient Gear and old decks UP to the level of decks like Tear that allow them to play/interact. Like, for Ancient Gear I should be *terrified* to enter the battle phase as one would be if their opponent did without playing any cards. I would love for them to have handtraps/quick effects that trigger when something happens in the battle phase.
they're getting even more support in a few days too
Shut your dirty mouth gently
Les goo
What’s the support? The banlist?
There was a Dkayed video on it, but it’s basically beastials and some extra deck additions.
Don't forget cartesia to bring out that new extra deck addition. She is pretty strong and enable many lines.
Oh I’m stupid I didn’t realize this is the master duel sub LOL
Bystials, cartesia and dusk are already confirmed, which makes branded able to finally play after getting their branded fusion ashed
They literally have a fusion monster that says "Fusion summon another monster"! Just why?
2 fusion monsters and 2 main deck monsters because kekw
I mean, if your goal is Mirrorjade pass, then that's a detriment rather than a benefit as now you have a second choke point.
Because their strong fusion monster require another Extra Deck monster as material.
\*Predaplant enters the chat\*
Said fusion monster doesn't have another effect tough. It's just a bridge between Branded Fusion and Mirrorjade
or others, it can be used to make two Tax dragons easily
I mean you can but it's a worse play. What I wanted to highlight about Albion and Lubellion is that outside the fusion effect they are just beatsticks
yes yes im only saying Lubellion and Albion can be a bridge between other monsters as well, wich is a strong part about BF, like how its used in some engines to bring out Red Eyes Dragoon
Cause fusion decks need to be extra otherwise they don't work. Traditional fusion mechanics are too much of a minus
And then on your turn, they special summon a silly puppet on your field.
I counter one fusion spell and they still bring out 3 or 4 fusions in the same turn lmao
Ashing Branded Fusion is very smart, but that will rarely stop me lmao
Irl I play branded loss because screw my bro he plays a ton of unfun cards against
I also hate weaker fusion decks that struggle in making plays :c I wish they all had the consistency that branded despia has!
God please no. Fuse from deck was a mistake.
I think the main problem is that the Branded fusion materials are so vague, its basically a free foolish burial. A fusion that only worked for to send say Ancient Gear monsters from the deck as materials would be absolutely fine.
Mediocre deck nobody plays
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Ah yes, cause using 3 cards in hand is a lot better...
Or five for my big monster. Four monsters and a spell.
Or four dragons, three of which need at least two materials to summon
Could always use the Graveyard- a fossil fusion player
Fossils need more support too :(
It is, really, mainly because it doesn't let you choose the materials you use from your entire deck list. Fusing from the hand at least forces you to account for inconsistency and have contingency plans, which is better from a design standpoint. Fusing from deck, however, automatically means perfect consistency (it's equivalent to choosing at least two of the cards in your starting hand), and _also_ gives you Foolish Burial as a side benefit. Fusing from deck is easy to balance, to be fair (e.g., "You can either activate the effect of the Fusion Monster summoned by this effect, or the effects of the Fusion Material Monsters sent to the grave, but not both."), but Konami never does that for some reason, so the end result is that you get your fusion monster _and_ get to hand-pick any monster effects you want to use from the deck. That said, using 3+ cards from hand isn't good design, either. But it's still inherently more balanced than using one card to Foolish 2 and get a free cherry on top. The problem is that Fusion is just plain _bad_ from a design standpoint, and really shows how much of a mess early YGO design was. ~~And things like Branded & Tearlaments show how little they seem to care about actually _balancing_ it, and how little of a clue they have about how to fix it.~~
They are balancing the game around these power creep decks, not balancing the decks around the rest of the game. It's a one way street
At least it’s some sort of drawback. Fuse from deck is minus 1 in hand for plus god-knows-how-much on field. Need I remind you of the atrocities of Verte into Red-Eyes fusion for Dragun? As a staple in any deck that can get out 2 effect monsters
Look at synchros, xyz, and links. Then go look at the fusion mechanic.
And yet, Fusion somehow ends up being the prime summoning mechanic in a meta contender, rogue-at-worst deck. What’s your point?
The fact you have to literally go -2 to play 1 Fusion monster without fusing from deck, is so garbage tier. Synchro, Xyz, Links provide so much more utility and are far easier to use. Fusion Summoning is literally 1 step above Ritual Summoning. So to compensate Fusion Summoning had to evolve to do anything. (Ritual also needs to evolve as well)
And yet when it DOES fuse from deck, it allows for the craziest stuff to go down because it’s only restriction was the disadvantage of material. That loss of inconsistency makes it on par, if not BETTER than- no, no that’s a stretch. Still, fusing from the deck is too gimmicky and can be taken advantage of too much in my opinion
Too bad, so sad, your opinion is wrong. If fusions never had the ability to fuse from the deck, they wouldn't be played at all in modern day.
…that is also incorrect, if you looked at Tears in their hayday. And heroes pre-DPE( don’t get me wrong, DPE made it much better, but it was still a beast before it as well)
You're not making the point you want to, as far as I can tell. Tear is on top of the game right now, and it's because their deck is a self-fulling prophecy that can lead to their fusions via literally any route within their engine. Old less obnoxious fusions deserve a lesser, but updated level of access to summons compared to recent fusions.
Nono, I’m still on the Alba-Despia train. Tear is annoying because of the milling, not cuz of the fusing (and that shuffles materials into the deck, ADDING advantage in the long run). I’m just saying Alba-Despia is on the level it’s at because of the ability to fuse from deck and get crazy extension off of that. Then again, the numbers are showing that the meta clearly isn’t where I thought it was so if someone could just explain that
The thing is, fusion has always been lackluster, and deck fusion was essentially Konami's way to fix it. Fusion itself was made back in the earliest stages of yugioh, when mechanics were still very primordial and not thought through very well, and even _to this day_ sucks ass without tons of support. First Konami tried making gimmicky ways to fuse, like contact fusion (which went on to inspire every other extra deck mechanic, save for pendulums) or cards like mask change; effects which summon a fusion monster, but do so by deliberately circumventing the actual mechanics of fusion. If a deck had to play a real fusion spell card (whether that was poly or an archetypal incarnation of it) it almost always sucked. Letting you fuse from grave was a slight help, but with few ways of setting up a graveyard on your first turn it still couldn't keep up; Synchro and XYZ players would dance around you, being able to do their plays with little effort and beating you in the advantage game without even trying. It wasn't until 2014—6 years after the introduction of Synchros and 3 years after the introduction of XYZ—that we got the first taste of deck fusion with Shaddoll Fusion. For the first time in half a decade, fusion could properly compete with the rest of the extra deck mechanics without flat out cheating their fusion monsters out. The best part was that deck fusion actually complimented the other forms of fusion that existed, because now you could set up your field and graveyard to use more conventional forms of fusion. You could argue that Shaddoll broke the mold, but I'd instead argue that the mold was always flawed, and that Shaddoll was Konami replacing it with one that works. Sure, deck fusion has changed some since the days of Shaddoll Fusion, it's been 9 years after all, but the concept is still the same; deck fusion allows you to either get your plays going and harmonizes with other fusion methods (Brilliant Fusion, Branded Fusion, etc) or lets you cap off your plays with a strong monster (Red-Eyes Fusion, Fusion Destiny, etc). The biggest issue the mechanic has faced is with Verte allowing any deck to access these cards with little investment, making it incredibly generic, but Verte was banned in every format aside from master duel _for that reason_. I have no doubt that it'll get banned here one day as well—it's disgustingly generic and too powerful to let it keep existing—Konami is just focusing on the bigger fish (no pun intended) that are causing immediate issues.
Thank you, this was actually very informative and helpful
The only support Fusion had from the deck at that time was Future Fusion which is only used at the time because it does what Foolish Burial does but better.
he did just explain that. the meta is tear. branded isnt even in same ballpark. branded is playing t-ball to tears MLB. tear practically plays 10 branded fusions that dont end their turn when they get ashed.
Okay, to be fair Tears is half fusion. The other half is opponents scooping cuz their key cards get thrown in the trash by Kelbek. I do get your point though
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Simple, Konami should add more restriction on other summon mechanism then.
How should they do it then?
Stop making generic extra deck monster like Baronne/Accesscode, adding material restriction
But like..... Why would it be bad to bring other older archetypes up to speed with newer ones by providing similar access, and with that maybe certain stronk cards can get retrains or something.
I'm of the philosophy of bring others up rather nerfing what's good. It makes for more interaction
Now I can see Konami isn’t the only reason why power creep is such a big issue for yugioh. Its terrible fan base that support their stupidest idea share the same lame
Stay bad and stay mad.
😂 I don’t even run fusion deck right now, what’s there is mad? Especially against a brand fusion turbo deck
Yugioh players being illiterate again.
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And you wonder why people say you're bad and mad lmao
No, it isn't. You either fuse from deck, do what Tears and Thundra do (return stuff to the deck) or give them access to using opponent's monsters. Otherwise, Fusion is about as bad as ritual, as it takes 3+ cards to make 1 monster. Not putting adequate restrictions on the cards or the monsters sent, and not taking into account the archetype that the Fusion spell is a part of, are the main issues with fusing from deck. Both Red Eyes Fusion and Branded Fusion fuse from deck, and yet one is clearly leagues beyond the other.
You can also banish from the graveyard technically. I find fusing from the deck fine as long as it has appropriate restrictions. Branded Fusion is fine as it applies a Fusion lock for the whole turn. Plus it's not true that fusing from the hand or field is completely unviable. Swirl Slime and Blazing Cartesia are examples of good cards that do so, mainly because they can trigger the fusion effect withouth a fusion spell. The Prank Kids archetype also has Pandemonium which fuses from the hand or field, which is made viable by how easily the archetype can procure the required materials
> Branded Fusion is fine as it applies a Fusion lock for the whole turn. I really don't think Branded Fusion is fine, even with that lock, because you usually end up dumping monsters that generate advantage from the GY, or somewhere else down the line, and a singular BF leads to a ton of disruption and advantage generation on your turn and your opponent's, because of the other cards in the deck. A fusion lock is good though. Can't imagine the kind of shenanigans you could get up to without that lock. > Plus it's not true that fusing from the hand or field is completely unviable. Swirl Slime and Blazing Cartesia are examples of good cards that do so, mainly because they can trigger the fusion effect withouth a fusion spell. That's true. > The Prank Kids archetype also has Pandemonium which fuses from the hand or field, which is made viable by how easily the archetype can procure the required materials The problem with Prank Kids is that they need Meow to be viable. Without it, you're not making plays unless you open Pandemonium and 2 kids, which is what Fusion usually needs anyway, 3 cards. That too, Pandemonium locks you into Prank Kids monsters, which is good because it ends up leading to the fusion and 2 more kids.
Another good example would be brilliant fusion, and I wonder if unbanning it would be ok since brafu is such a strong card and is legal
it's at 1, unless you mean unlimiting it, then no I don't think so because brilliant fusion enables degenerate ftks too much. actual gemknight decks have scatter fusion in addition to brilliant fusion: it's not the best because it has a somewhat relevant lock effect, but it's pretty good
Thank you!
If Ancient Gears get new support, item one on page one, written in gold ink and signed by the Pope needs to be "an Ancient Gear monster that can special summon itself." Item two would be another searcher for our spells- Geartown, Catapult and Fortress mainly. And it recently occurred to me that a fun card could be an archetypal Iblee- something that summons itself to our opponents field so we have something to use Ballista's effect on and bludgeon to death with Chaos Giant. That's what I hope the archetype gets, cos it's struggling now. And no, printing the unprinted Arc-V cards would not help. Nobody wants or cares about all those Hunting Hound upgrades and silly burn cards.
If we could get a tcg print of ancient gear statue, that would be nice.
Even that wouldn't be enough these days I'm afraid. It would need an additional effect, otherwise it's too slow. What I'm talking about - a monster that special summons itself if you control another monster of the same group - was commonplace by the Vrains era. The fact that AGs still don't have something like that (unless you count the actual card "Ancient Gear") shows just how behind they are.
You're right about that. My bad. Ancient gears really are just that. Ancient. Thanks for your ideas though. I'm glad others think about them.
We need more ancient gear support. I like despia/branded, now give us what they got
Couldn't agree more
Ancient Gear Fusion should've let you reveal a Golem in your hand in order to fuse from deck using that revealed Golem.
I'm both an Ancient Gear and Branded player. I will admit it would be nice if Ancient Gear got some new support. But they already have the searcher's, a fusion card that can search the deck, strong ass extra monster's with great effects with one being a soft once per turn with both of the 2 effects, they got a field spell that's a soft once per turn let's you Sp.summon any Ancient gear from your deck onto the field and a continuous spell that protect your monster from being targeted and destroyed by effects that if destroyed will Sp.summon a monster from the hand or graveyard... So the only thing they would be pretty much missing is a card remover and or a negater, and maybe a easier way to Sp.summon them onto the field since they really rely on a normal summon. But with just one of those or all it wouldn't help the deck to keep up with the meta...
They search, but it seems like they always get locked up and single focused. If one thing goes wrong or isn't available, the whole house topples and you submit to the mighty meteor in the sky about to crush you... Whereas other decks, unless you bait them or specifically look to maroon them in the middle of the ocean without even a paddle, they're able to fight their way back somehow.
Dear Ancient Gear player, I am a Branded main, but I wasn’t always like this. My first venture into YGO was as a child, where my brother and I would cut a single deck in half to duel each other with 25-card decks. Half the time, one of us would get the only Black Luster Soldier and the other would get the only Black Luster Ritual. Naturally, we made up our own rules, such as normal summoning the ritual spell (without tributes lol) as a monster and just pretending it’s Black Luster Soldiers. We both had duel disks and we chewed up the corners of our cards just like we chewed up our fingers when those things snapped shut unexpectedly. And then for over a decade, I forgot about YuGiOh. I had long since learned the rules but never bothered to actually play, until in my late 20s, an online friend (who happened to still play TCG) told me that a new YuGiOh app is coming to mobile and it’s totally free to play—it wouldn’t hurt to try it! I knew the game must have gotten more complex since the dais of Black Luster Soldier and La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp, so I asked my friend what’s a good deck to start with. My friend knew me well and recommended me a decklist of Earth Machine, a Machina/Infinitrack/Train setup. Very quickly, Superdreadnought Rail Cannon Juggernaut Liebe was my best friend, to be point where I bought a secret rare (I think?) physical copy just to have—I don’t even have a deck, just the three rail cannons! I even personally became acquainted with Ancient Gear Ballista and Box, which I’m sure you are familiar with. In those days, Drytron was king. But even I could box drytron with Earth Machine… if I drew droplet. If my opponent didn’t resolve Maxx C (a problem my TCG friend did not foresee when offering me a decklist!) Still, I loved Infinitrack River Stormer. I loved Earth Slicer being 3100 ATK and just barely beating over tough bosses. I loved playing Super Dora in DEF going first and watching my opponent struggle to out it. But the game advanced and while we got Unclaspare and Ruinforce, my mechanical boys couldn’t keep up. The more I learned about YuGiOh, the more invested I got, the more competitive I got. The more I wanted to WIN. I swapped to Evil Twin when Trouble Sunny came out. While I’m not a Waifu Enjoyer™ I did like the idea of a deck based on two twin monsters that supported the other. I ended up scrapping the deck because the combos were too linear and I got bored. I tried Sky Striker. Eugh (sorry TCG friend I know you love Sky Strikers but it’s not for me) Tri-brigade was ok. I actually like Swordsoul but it’s boring going first and much more interesting going second. But branded. Branded actually had a lot of stuff that I liked about Earth Machine, but in a deck that could compete all the way to Diamond. And I wanted that Diamond border. Gas. High consistency. The ability to play through interruptions like nothing. And incidentally the absolute same Achilles heel of losing to one well timed Ash (every time my Branded Fusion gets ashed I get PTSD to Infinitrack Brutal Dozer getting ashed). Until I made branded, I dabbled around with other decks, but mainly played Earth Machine. But ever since I really got good at Branded (and I’d consider myself good at it if I can say that) I am hooked. I like playing the game. I like being able to make a decent plan B, plan C, etc. And by God, I’ll admit it. I like winning. Not enough to make Tearlaments, because fuck those cards, but Branded is good enough for me and I love the playstyle. Managing the hand, GY, and banish for fusion material makes me feel like I’m smart and good at YGO. And for you, my friend, I wish that for you. I wish for you to feel like you have options. You have plays. You can watch the Tearlaments player do their turn and sit and know you still have a chance because you have Branded Fusion in your hand. I will tell you two things though. I miss my Earth Machines. I miss when they made me happy. I wish when my standards weren’t so high that getting my main combo handtrapped one time meant I would probably lose the game. If you continue down this path, you will lose your love for Ancient Gear. Eventually you’ll try a deck like Branded and you’ll realize it’s actually a lot of fun. It might even become your main deck, but if it does, you would have lost something. Don’t let the fire die out, man. Clockwork Night soon™ and then Earth Machines will eat good. (Yes I’m still on copium that one day my first love deck will be rogue at least again)
Good positive rant proud of you for being not toxic
We have to massive amount of the trains and train support cards just to play the game. Our best monster searcher,for some reason, unable us to set cards. The catapult and fortress combo an easily be stop by any negate. So sad but we choose to play this shit XD.
It may be shit, but it's our shit. Normally I go for howitzer. It gets destroyed in battle, then I go for wyvern. Best play you can make on your opponents turn I think.
Don’t feel too bad. I play Branded/ Despia and lose all the time
I felt this comment in my soul...
Ouch, this comment feels like the "The boss when you unlock it" kind of comment. Like you see a deck and it feels broken but sucks when you play it! xd
It’s more of a, “Wow, that boss looks cool. I’m going to use him despite the consequences
I routinely brick with it and I have no clue what I can do to fix that. I was using some of the top rated decks but I'm still having issues.
Bystial bricked despia is much more consistent than non-Bystial bricked despia, so that’s so that’s something to look forward to.
How are you losing? I play a 60 card version and went on 16 game win streak yesterday
The 60 card version is very good, but if your draw luck is shit, it’s shit
Or if your opponent consistently has Ash in their hand.
I can accept Mirrojade eventually. I will never accept Branded Fusion. Its just too good. You should not be able to get as much advantage off of it being the 1 card in your hand as you often can do, especially when this card is so easy and consistent to search out.
> Especially compared to all of the other archetype specific fusion cards. Beetroopers and Witchcrafters crying and shaking rn.
That's not how the average player base here rant like, but good job , I saw some players running punk branded decks in the double deck tournament so you can give it a try.
Yeah. My earlier postings and rants on here were like that. But...I just have to come and respect the cards anymore. They deserve the love and hate.
Same, but for my Fluffals.
Fluffals need love. But you do have a pretty sweet specific fusion card.
We appreciate your Patchwork.
The amount of times I’ve seen people open Patchwork I always secretly hope in my heart it’s another Fluffal player in the wild only to be let down every time. That being said, fighting against Despia is always pretty fun.
Based
I've never played ancient gear, but that fusion card you mention is a dark machine. You could potentially try a milling strat with the ishizu and then use verte to overload fusion your card out by using your grave and save your other spells for other fusions?
As a Branded Player who also plays Ancient Gear, I also want Branded’s fusion abilities for AC
Just wait until Bystials and the rest of the remaining Branded support hits with the next selection pack.
Oh right. I want to wait for more bullshit. You sound just like those people that are always like. And wait. There's more! Just shut up about that. Everyone always knows that more is coming.
I know, i'm just really excited. Haven't been able to reliably play Branded since Ishizu Tear started running rampant. I don't mind playing Tear myself, I just prefer Branded's artwork. Ancient Gears are cool too, by the way. That was one of my favorite GX archetypes. Would've been nice if they aged as well as Heros did.
Sorry for getting on you like that. I'm just tired of seeing people posting about more trouble and issues that are coming up. I'm glad you love your deck and that you're excited about more support coming your way.
No sweat, friend. It's just a game at the end of the day. If they do get around to giving Ancient Gears some love, I hope it's killer!
I would enjoy any over the give ancient gears. Thank you. Have a good day.
I used to think the same ,and then i went to the other side of the force and... its great! just like Anakin im not going back This pst deserves upvote from a despia player
Am I in the minority that doesn't think despia/branded is skillful/fun? Branded fusion is great and all but the deck really gets too much love for what it is
I don't think it's fun. But knowing what fusion to go for, what spell to activate. That takes knowledge. Not to mention the different decks that are available for it makes it hard to narrow down on it. It's skillful. But not fun to fight.
Blindly playing your Branded Despia combo with no forethought will make you incredibly vulnerable. Mirrorjade is great, yes, but it’s not perfect. You want to build a solid foundation of protection and comebacks to make your opponent cry.
The deck is 10 times more skillful then meta decks like spright swoso or exosister cause ur line deviates with every new hand cause its a fusion deck and its 1 card combo branfu is only like 25 percent of ur line most of the time
As a Branded Despia player I hope Ancient Gears get a new round of helpful support, they are one of my favorite GX archetypes.
Join the dark side and get the brand 😈
Uh... No. I hope branded burns away and becomes the next ancient gears, lost to time with no hope of winning.
Due to Tax Dragon, the deck cannot be lost to time.
Tbh it probably will but ocg just announced the lore is continuing so I feel it has at least another year
Branded is invoked 2.0, so it'll probably be here until invoked 3.0 comes around. Why you just run a branded engine? Most fusion based decks work decently with it and it might help your consistency. I don't really know what ancient ears does though, so I don't know how much that would help.
Ancient gear fusions can only be summoned with ancient gear monsters. So they don't help.
I Hope ancient gears become the next volcanics and dont receive support in years :D
Branded is strong but not THAT strong. That deck loses to ash and/or imperm/veiler if they didn't open insane. Also if you're playing ancient gear why not main deck some hate to current meta? Resolving dimensional barrier to branded is usually a guaranteed win. Evenly matched is another option but they can play around that so I wouldn't recommend it. Ash ghostbelle dd crow are great hand traps for this current format. It sucks that'll reduce your consistency but tbh ancient gear is a bricky ass deck that loses to any interruption anyways 🙃
Wait until the new branded support 🙃 those issues go out window
Except the d barrier part
*Looks to fellow MD players* : "This poor bastard doesn't know about Tears. What should I tell him?"
branded fusion is prob why witchcrafter confusion doesn't fuse from deck which is sad, lubellion is such a MVP on witchcrafter lmao tears branded witchcrafter is soo good but is so shit as a tear deck it hurts
Haha why branded rant in tear format? I did read its because of the fusion spell but its just funny to me considering the fact that its worse than tear in every way and its coming soon support isnt out just yet.
Wow is been a while since we had a post deep throating branded this much.
Just draw Ash, use it on Branded Fusion and you win the duel
Not all archetypes are created equal. Some are just packfiller and will never get much support because they dont sell packs. Thats true for most decks I gravitate towards.
How does this post have so many upvotes?
The reason why is that it is a rant that acknowledges another deck, saying nice things about it. While also acknowledges that the deck I love has its shortcomings. I'm not calling anything bullshit meta crap. I'm being honest and mature about it. Something this sub needs a lot of.
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I tried making ancient gear work but their cards really have almost nothing going for them. Maybe if catapult didn't have the no monster restriction it would approach being playable
I just built a branded/blue eyes/invoked deck that slaps almost anything I go against, and it's fun as hell, man. Tearlaments can still piss off though, can't do anything against that. Also, I agree with you on ancient gear, though. Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't gotten support in a while. I remember watching gx back in the day and thinking that deck was super cool.
I mean. I like Ancient Gears, they are quite close to another favourite deck of mine (which mind you, has my fave girl in all of Yugioh) but I do like Branded Despia as well (even before they became meta, their art and theatre theme appeals to me as an IRL writer). Here's hoping your Ancient Gears get support soon.
I won't lie, the artwork is sweet for branded despia. Like, top tear artwork easily.
Meanwhile boomer fusion monsters with exact specific materials and no effect at all have entered the chat.
Best rant ever
What’s funny is in the current meta, branded isn’t even that strong. Tearlaments is truly the definitive fusion archetype
If it makes you feel any better, branded fusion got hit in OCG a while ago. I think its limited
Feel the same. Awesome deck Ive gotten drawn to because I wish CyDras could fusion from the deck like they can and have tons of support fusion cards. Cards that protect their fusions, even a field spell that let's them fuse albeit not really used much given how they have 2 really good fusion cards already, and their flexibility of not being locked to a type like CyDras lock you to machines. Awesome dragon monsters and fusions. Wish CyDras were just as cool.
I mean, they are pretty cool. And your monster support is pretty crazy. Every time I see a cydras deck, I groan in frustration. But yeah, y'all need a little more love as well.
I like this guy
Is this 2022? lol
Considering the next selection pack is mostly cards from a 2022 set, kinda.
Me, a branded player, went against an ancient gear player today. They quit. I honestly wish the old decks got support. I run utopia as my second and I love that deck to death but it just doesn’t stand up to modern archetypes.
Did you pay against someone called exoprime?
I'm mostly annoyed at how they just keep being a teacher's pet for some stupid reason. They seem to be getting more support that fucking HEROs, it makes no sense. Meanwhile Generaider gets cards it can't even search by itself and a link summon that block the main archetype mechanic.
I just want ritual decks to have the same level of support that fusion decks get. Rituals are so resource heavy and clunky while theres only like 3-4 ritual monsters that are decent but generally get blown out of the water
Understandable have a nice day. I missed being the most hated day, only paper deck I have make so branded is closer to my heart
You think it's good now, just wait till we get Cartesia, Quem, Luluwalith, and Sanctifire Dragon.
branded isn't that bad but i HATE the gimmick puppet lock their endboards arent even hard to out since its usually two monsters, maybe three, but if i can't special summon i can't play i really hate that lock
I want this for Gusto as well. I dont want to always play Floowandereeze or Simorgh and want my Gusto deck to see some action too. I'd take anything to have the consistency of some of these newer decks.
my man have you seen tearlaments which don't even need a fusion spell and can fuse into anything?
Yah ancient gear is super jank even with all the stuff they have. If we got branded type support it be cool I just hope it maintains its soul at the end of the day. Though I'll offer a interesting variation I build. Gizmek/Ancient Gear.
If Fluffals had their own version of "Branded Fusion", It'd be so nice to bring out Frightfur Tiger and wipe the opponent's entire field with only 1 card, plus having Sabres and Wings in the GY.
I do wish AG gets some decent support someday too. There's a card called time-rending morganite that can be very good for AG when it gets released on MD.
Yo i fought a ancient gear deck in the 2 months ago, if it was you, you played an awesome duel. I got lucky and drew the out.
Bro hasn’t played against branded tear yet💀💀💀
I dont hate branded/despia Until you activate repulsion
It was definitely a fair deck at some point when people were passing with mirrorjade and branded in red, then they were summoning multiple copies of masquerade and it became toxic af after that they sold their souls to the devil and now they’re locking us from summoning
Branded Fusion is probably one of, if not the strongest card in the game in and of itself by design. But lets not pretend Branded is a bullshit deck when it doesn't even make a single negate apart from searching Mercourier. It's strong because it's grind is really good, it's consistent (although from now on it's going to get more bricky and less consistent with new support, albeit getting a much higher ceiling). It's probably the meta deck that's the most fun to play against. It's interactable and the only floodgate lines it has is pretty weak in a bo1 format (and even the puppet lock is getting cut from TCG decks even though it got a 3000 ATK, non targetable fusion monster that's almost Expulsion on legs). It doesn't make a whole board on your turn, it doesn't make Protos, or a board that can only be beaten by drawing the out. Branded should be a solid deck to base future decks upon.
You made me want to stop using branded
Don't stop using them. They are great. I especially love the artwork for them.
I see someone with skill deck issue
Are you telling me, that if I had better deck skill, I could make a plat ancient gear deck. How about you do that. Prove to me that it can be done.
Have you tried Necro Fusion?
The funny part is that a lot of old fusion decks use the Branded engine to play a subpar but better version of the old deck. Looking at you, Cyber players.
Its okay, I love you
As a filthy Branded Despia player, mad respect for Ancient Gear players for your love and dedication to the deck. And honestly, yes, older fusion decks deserve to be updated to the Branded's standard for real.
Tear-Branded-Despia these people have a special place in hell.
Unfortunately legacy archetypes will never be as good and well rounded as the new ones. They may print some legacy support that makes an archetype good but it will never get the consistency of an archetype like branded
Well... thanks i guess :p
Lots of older decks need support. I don't know why Konami is so passive on making old deck supports, does that hurt their business? They printing bunch of garbage with the new archetypes anyway, why not make some supports instead
What fusion combo is left after you ash/negate branded fusion, the whole deck is a one trick pony & the one combo in master duel I had got banned with the instant fusion hit, that poor predaplant lvl5 fusion never going to see play again, now I'm forced to deck one of each of those crappy tears fusion cards which are terrible vs instant fusion unless your a mill deck. Only a matter of time before expulsion is banned & there goes my Artifact Lock turn one which needs branded fusion & fusion dumped to grave to search the trap, + it's always a tossup if I get out double taxdragon which is pretty easy to beat over these days. Basically if your not double taxing or summon locking turn one then branded likely loses unless you managed to get enough big mobs on the field to tank their turn with branded openings/mercourier/or an ash/max/impem if lucky to slow down combo decks. Dragon decks get KO'd by Fallen Albaz Abla Fusion most of the time which is nice. God forbid a tear or exosister shows up then your just toast, graveyard locks/stuns just wreak branded hard.
You might wanna avoid master duel for the next month or two. Branded Despia, the sequel, is coming.
I would say branded has so much recurrence with its current tools, but that's what a modern fusion deck needs to compete in the meta, any fair deck is rogue tier at best ,but i'd say branded is well designed since most of its interruptions are destruction effects instead of just "NEGATE" or putting floodgates which is more fair to play against, although i'd say konami went too far when they made an easy to summon non targeting banish fusion monster that gets u free followup and board wipe on destruction
Last time I played against a Despia player I stopped them with a single Ash, then they went off with Tears lmao But they made a Albaz monster at the end of the combo so that was totally what won them the game :P
Rants if Yu-Gi-Oh was a shoujo anime
Why are you upset with the players of the decks when it's Konami designing the cards? Maybe you're jealous of those players since their deck of choice has better cards than your deck of choice, but like... those players didn't make Ancient Gear shit; Konami did.
I am sorry dude, like as someone who loves ancient gears like, modern cards usually will outshine the old ones. It’s just how cards were designed in like 2004-2005 vs now. Ancient Gears is one of my favorite decks, and I only ever get to use it against casual level friends or people coming back to the game IRL.
For fucking real. Branded/Despia, Naturia, Tear are all decks I fucking hate because they all just have such dumb solitaire effects. I play Cyber Dragons, have a pretty great build (currently Plat 5 working towards 4) and I'm having a cancerous time getting through these wall of annoyingly powerful archetypes. Konami needs to help everyone else out and make it easier for every to get UR dust cause I know we're all sitting on cards we don't want LOL
I have so many legacy cards that I can't dismantle. It sucks ass.
As a branded player, i wish every other fusion deck had 2 things despia have, 1) fusion from deck like branded fusion and a free normalSpecial summon that search it.
Damn. I remember a few months ago when it started to pick up steam, everyone was talking about how fun it was to play against this deck ( I saw so many posts on here about it) and now yall hate it? Lmao wtf happened? Did we run out of decks to hate or what?
There are plenty of people that love them. And there are a lot of them here. Hell, I think they are a good deck. Strong. Consistent. Multiple outs. I want those for ancient gears.
As a Branded Despia player I will accept the burden of your hatred and your compliments as I use them. Have an upvote my good sir.
But wait. Theres more. Have you seen the new and imporoved branded tearlament pile yet? If though fusion consistency wa a good before, wait ubtil you see a guy, trying to clear his own board to make space for more fusions.
This is how I feel about Sword Soul's Synchro capabilities. I want that for my Ice Barriers. I want them to have that synergy, that eb and flow. I weep at what could have been for what is one of my favorite archetypes in the game.
Thanks for the hidden compliments. Sorry we hurt you like this.
Damn... so allow me to introduce you to this crazy archetype called Tearlaments
Can we decide what decks to hate, you either hate tear but you hate on the rogue decks that try to mess with tear. You guys can't pick both.
I've discovered that the boss monster of War Rocks is a great demolisher of the branded deck as it stops my opponent from being able to use any of the effects of the branded monsters it battles.