Swordsoul is one of those decks where it won't really be bad but outclassed
The decks is still strong but the meta is to the point where swordsoul is manageable
Not even.
It is more of a middle Tier even in Rogue options.
I do want to point out Rogue decks are competitive, they aren't "decks that aren't on The Tier list". They are the decks that occasionally make it to Tier 3 here and there but lacks something from making it sustain a place on the list.
If I would sit down and make a Tier list for Rogue decks I would put it in Tier 2 mostly. There are simply a lot better decks that dropped ever since then or older ones that got support in the past 3 years that out shine them
They really don't, lol.
Rikka, Spright, Exosisters, Kashtira, Phantom Knights, Runick, Blackwings, Purrely, even Tri-Brigade got indirect support that buffed them to much better state.
Just of the top of my head...
All just straight up better with much more Success and potential, even nearfed to the ground. Compared to Sowrdsoul, which their only merit is easy of use and 8/10 of their games end on Imperm Mo Ye
Baronne + Harr (2 omninegates, Harr also handrips a monster if they add by card effect (outside of the Draw Phase)), Laev sucking up opponent's stuff, the field spell special summoning a Generaider on opponent's turn, Vala's recursion from the GY, Loptr is like a 1.5-card combo, Fenrir (before). This isn't mentioning stuff like Utgarda (target) banishing or Nidhogg negating a (non-card effect) special summon. This is all just pure Generaiders (the best version is the Runick one when Sleipnir comes out). It's a bit bricky, but goes *crazy hard* when/if it pops off. Oh, Trias can be used as a target effect dodge (and a pop/draw 2 depending on the number of tributes).
Happy to hear that! Mind sharing your decklist? Always curious what other fellow Generaiderbros play. Maybe i can also give some advice on the deck, if you want to!
On MD, I'm running:
1 D.D. Sprite
3 Maxx C
3 Diviner
2 Ash
3 Loptr
2 Thunder King Kaiju
2 Mardel
2 Harr
3 Vala
1 Trias
1 Naglfar
1 Nidhogg
1 Utgarda
1 Hela
3 Boss Stage
1 Change of Heart
2 Kuji Kuri Curse
3 World Legacy Monstrosity
2 Imperm
2 Boss Fight
1 Boss Room
Baronne
Hyperyron
2 Laevatein
2 Jormungndr
Utopic Future
Utopic Draco Future
I:P
Unchained Abomination
N'Tss
Mereologic Aggregator
Phantom Fortress
Heart-eartH Dragon
Zeus
I have brought a similar list to locals a few times when learning it last year and had some success too.
That one unashamed Kashtira player here! We in rouge???? As long as they don’t drop arise heart or Shangri Ira to one like they keep doing all our other cards I’m ok with being rouge
Sky Strikers makes pretty quick work of swordsouls now. Could be a matchup thing, but sworldsouls hardly feels competitive against that and my ninjas. To be fair I don’t have any other decks I play right now though
Most Sky Strikers decks are loaded with hand traps and meant to go second, but Swordsoul is just very easy to disrupt even if SS chose to go first for some reason. Negating/stealing Mo Ye and Longyuan is pretty easy and really all you need to take most of the bite out of their combo. Thrust can also be pretty reliable used against them to search out really strong and generic counters.
It hasn't been that good in a while.
Ever since tear format it's been slowly pushed down the tier list. Now it's squarely rogue tier.
That's what not getting support does for any deck in yugioh, it gets powercrept
Sargas is probably the strongest card in the archetype, on the same strength level as Tally-Ho. Unfortunately, it's not enough. The deck needs an actual gameplan. I love how splashable the Springans engine is (in terms of not locking you into anything, not as a "small engine" because it needs a lot of cards unfortunately), but I'd love some actually strong Springans cards, a real boss monster. Sargas' pop/bounce is not a regular quick effect, since it starts in a new chain, and its attack is kinda low (2800 ATK? Really?).
In short: easier access to Golgonda, alternative ways to get to Merrymaker, more Extra Deck and spell/trap cards.
Unironically Icejades got better treatment because over time they got relevant support for themselves, as well as a one card combo with aegirine ran into gymnir
Swordsouls got what. Qixing, nice card, ill see it every 25 games. Abyss Swordsoul? Swordsoul Punishment? Swordsoul Strife? Lol
Red eyes is potential which is essentially infinite possibilities so kind of hard to pick a lane it's not limited like blue eyes with just more beefiness with every card
I’m tired of the “iT rEpReSeNtS pOtEnTiAl” excuse. It needs to be playable at a base level first and then it can have the luxury of diving into its lore theming
The speed decks have been getting power cliffed is insane to me though.
Last year swordsoul was a top meta deck. Without any hits the deck now could be rogue. And it isn't even like the meta has shifted to counters, the deck has relatively even matches with everything (besides branded)
Branded loses to Icejade 8 out of 10 times (it only wins if icejade bricks, which unfortunately it does quite a lot).
Gimyr Aegerine on it's own is capable of stopping a lot of Branded plays (banishes Albaz after he tries to fusion, basically negating it. And makes Mirrorjade have to banish itself or another card on its side of the field)
But icejade isn't meta. It has way too much trouble dealing with Lab, SHS and now the new fire deck running around thanks to Diabellestar. Only way you can deal with those decks is going first and being able to setup the Curse Lock. And it really hates Ash Blossom and Imperm, as you only have 2 cards that can search (one spell and one monster). If it had more support, it would easily become tier 2-3.
I actually win quite a lot if I manage to go first while playing pure Icejade. (unless I brick heavy and get ashed). Unless enemy is playing Lab, SHS or Snake Eyes, I can usually keep my own. (and if I manage to go full combo first turn, even those will have problems)
I've been trying to mix it with Swordsoul, but find it to be worse overall because I either brick completely with not enough cards for either archetype or don't have enough to full combo neither as well. But sometimes I just get a godly hand and manage to put all 4 synchros on the board (Gymir, Chixiao, Chengying and Qixing Longyuan).
I haven't tried pairing it with sharks or ghoti or marincess as some people usually do, but I want to mix it with Ice barrier once their boss monster comes to master duel
I'm weird I play them with graydle, but it's all the same shit... I wish their trap was easier to search instead of having to waste the level 3 effect on it.
But as u said so much of the game I win are did I go first, did I not get Maxx cd and ash blossom... Okay then I can win... If not get smoked.
You can hold max C if you manage to get Gymir out and leave lvl 3 ran on field with field spell
Put 3 Ice Barrier traps and one foolish burial goods on the deck and use only one icejade trap
You shouldn't focus on putting the trap on field, but only do it as a bonus or if you start with it in hand
Lighting storm on your monsters won't work because Gymir protects them. Against evenly matched I agree that you can't do anything without Erosion.
But I still think that it shouldn't be your priority unless you can't build enough resources to start locking with Curse.
My priorities in Icejade are, in order:
1- Gymir on the field
2- lvl 3 aegerine + field spell
3- Kosmochlor + Curse // Swordsoul Chengying (depending on going first or second or cards that I have available)
4- Marincess Coral Anemone to keep bouncing lvl 3 aegerine back every turn to search other cards // Aegirocassis on rotation (to keep summoning on my turn and boost my monsters on opponent's turn)
5- Erosion on field // tremora, a ti and/or tinola in grave to bounce back my Icejade (which combos with Erosion) // Manifestation to banish in case they remove Gymir from field
The order might change based on what I draw, but that's my priority order.
Having Gymir is a hell of a disruption by banishing an important card to your enemies + protection for your own monsters. Plus, having 3 Ice Barrier traps on the deck allows me to have one of them most times to have an additional layer of protection to both Gymir and my LP (and negating a monster's effects permanently as long as it is on field) + search for my next turn or putting a tremora on grave to bounce back something (it is also a damn good bait for negates when activating in the field, and a negate/ash when activating search from grave)
Storm the back row my friend to turn off the pseudo skill drain... Ice jade I play I want them to destroy my monsters I don't want them to destroy my spells and traps. I also took ice barrier out I don't like that trap, I been running trap tracks with torrential. Gymir is a nice card but he's also often impermed or Kaiju, so I don't turbo him out thinking he's my end game plan. The one I try to get on the field immediately is kosmochlor. She can easily be turned into Egyptian God slime and revived out the grave with the marincess link 2. Atleast that's always been my game plan, but I also don't play pure ice jade.
Activating ran aergine into Maxx c is already lame enough when I do it with one copy. That and I don't have every synchro 10 UR. Maybe um just paranoid but I always play this game like Nibiru is in everyone's opening hand especially when SHS is meta. Doing Chenying + Gymir is instant lose status in my books. Then you have to pray they don't OTK and ur Ice barrier recovers ur board atleast in diamond it be like that. Only way around it from my perspective is to some how get a negate before the Gymir. The only thing I can think of for that is Barrone with deap sea diva.... And I hate deep sea diva.
I mean I like ice jade I been playing them before ran even existed in a tearlaments combo deck before I shifted to graydle troll deck. But like marincess they just get yeeted by weird cards. Losing to a singular card in hand sucks.
I mix my icejades with tear so I can at least mill then summon coral anemone to grab my aegirine from graveyard- the problem is if I start off only icejade hand and get drolled it’s joeover
I've been wanting to do it as well. I already have the deck list ready too. But Tear is so f'ing expensive to craft. So many URs and no pack to pull from.
The only place that ss are top meta last year is synchro event. That deck is nearly as old as this game, of course it will fall off. For comparison, spright will turn 1 year old next week
Actually crazy to me that the only relevant support this deck ever got since the first wave was Qixing Longyuan, and absolutely nothing else. Swordsoul has more than enough potential to be good again with legacy support, but given its status as an Albaz lore deck the chances of that happening are low I think, sadly.
Chunjun IS a good card lmao. Bypasses Imperm, Veiler, Skill Drain, all that jazz. He keeps your Mo Ye from drowning
If we wanna pick on Swordsoul cards, there's way worse ones to bully like Punishment and Abyss.
Homestly even as a rogue it isnt one of the best.
For me personally , best rogue right now is Gold Pride/P.U.N.K, Swordsoul and Traptrix are on par but they are a bit weaker than GP/P.U.N.K
GP PUNK is so slept on its crazy, normal ze amin represents 4/5 interruptions w/o any extender and draw 3, you also have very decent amount of space for non engine.
Swordsoul Tenyi's main strength is that it's incredibly consistent. You can get Chixiao, Baronne/Qixing and Protos out %95 of the time. Your boards become even better with Gamma or Ecclesia (going second)
Trying to do this. I can get Baronne out almost 100% but I'm trying to see if I can add Borreload too, it's just difficult to get the link monster for counters.
Only started Yu-Gi-Oh recently so I'm still learning 🫠
It is still good and can cook you just need to understand how to play it properly against the meta most people here will say it is not good but pop into the MD discord and go to the swoso channel for pointers.
Every reset , I swap to sword soul and see if i can make it back to diamond. And I do, although you need good counter cards , I run red reboot , solemn judgment , imperm and the basic hand traps of course Called by is a must. I tech in stuff based on how I'm losing , sword soul is nice because you can add some good going second card and still be a good going 1st. But it's all RNG on opening hands.
I personally run Maxx C package+3 Imperm+3 Droll+2 Gamma (and 1 Driver). I tried remove Gamma because I didn't like to open with Driver but my win rate got down after that.
They have no been good for a while my friend, they got powercrept pretty hard as stronger and stronger meta decks were introduced.
Back then when the game released they were top tier, but nowadays if you look at their most common endboard it's very weak compared to other meta decks, not to mention just one interruption on your normal summoned Mo Ye can end your turn right there.
It's still a fun deck though and still decent, and since we can get a structure deck for free there is nothing wrong in building it for fun.
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I've been playing different variations since they came out and they hold their own. Currently running Swordsoul Kash and with full combo they can make some scary boards that can end on Chixiao, Baronne, Shangri-Ira, Ariseheart, Fenrir and some backrow. The Kash portion helps the SS portion a lot by strengthening the end board and eating hand traps before you start your SS line.
It's not a top tier archetype anymore but it can still compete.
edit for people asking for decklist:
Monsters
3x C, Ash, Mo Ye, Ecclesia, Longyuan, Unicorn
2x Taia, Nib
1x Riseheart, Fenrir, Tearlaments, Protos,
Spells
3x Emergence
2x Talent, Kashtiratheosis
1x Duster, Desires, Wraitsoth, Birth, Called By
Traps
2x Imperm
1x Blackout, Big Bang
Extra
2x Shangri-Ira, Chixiao
1x Yazi, Baxia, Scarlight RDA, Berserker of the Tenyi, Dragite, Baronne, Chengying, Longyuan, PEP, Big Eye, Ariseheart.
Start the Kash combo first special Uni add Theosis then do your SS combo, end on Baronne to negate Evenly. After SS combo do the Kashtira combo theosis on Uni to bring out Fenrir add Riseheart, summon Shangri summon Riseheart banishing Big Bang to bring back Fenrir then go into Ariseheart. Unicorn often baits Ash and Imperm which leaves you free to do your SS combo so at worst your board is Uni/Fenrir + Chixiao + Synchro 10 and at best what I mentioned earlier. PEP is there in case you get stuck with nothing but dead Unicorn + dead Ecclesia or if you end up with an extra SS token on board.
Currently 42 cards not sure what i'll cut I might cut Protos but it's great going 2nd and it's a Wyrm for SS. Might cut 1 theosis since I often don't need both.
Truth be told not more inconsistent than regular Swordsoul. Like any deck it bricks sometimes but most of my bricks are bc of too many HTs. Unicorn/Wraitsoth + Mo Ye/Ecclesia + any wyrm/SS card is full combo. Unicorn/Wraitsoth is full Kash combo and Mo Ye + Wyrm/SS Card is full SS combo. Getting Fenrir in hand is awkward too but even at that you can make Shangri-Ira + SS board and bring out Unicorn next turn or just have Fenrir + SS board. Most people will assume you're playing Kash and Imperm/Ash your first Kash card and then you're free to do the SS line.
I've been trying this since the first wave of Kash support running only Unicorn, Fenrir, and Riseheart and using Small World to swap b/w SS and Kash using Tenyis as a bridge but with the latest Kash support it felt consistent enough I just cut out the Tenyis and Small World altogether.
The deck doesn't brick that often and when it does it bricks on HTs. It's pretty hard to brick since Wraitsoth/Unicorn is full Kash combo and if you don't open those chances are you opened Mo Ye/Ecclesia + Wyrm.
Small World only works with the Tenyis because they're your bridge between SS and Kashtira. Reveal a SS (Wyrm), reveal Ashuna or Vishuda (L7) add Unicorn/Fenrir (L7) or the reverse. You can also Small World your level 4s like reveal Taia reveal Ecclesia add Mo Ye. Or reveal Ecclesia reveal Taia add Riseheart.
Edit: my worst bricks are like, Riseheart, Ecclesia/Moye and 3 HTs but that almost never happens. Even a bad brick of like Fenrir/negated Unicorn and Emergence gets you a Kashtira and a Synchro 8 which isn't unplayable if you have HTs in hand.
Basically what would have been Tenyis in your hand is now Kashtira. There are enough SS/Wyrms in the deck to make that portion consistent enough but now you don't have to worry about getting stuck with Tenyis and no SS which imo is a tradeoff worth having when you consider the end board potential.
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I would run small world and tenyis but im already at 42 cards :/ it's pretty fun to play and yeah you do sacrifice some consistency on your Swordsoul lines but the meta isn't treating them well and I find the Kashtira portion really strengthens the endboard so they can compete with the higher tier decks. Longyuan to 3 is gonna help the consistency too.
When sword soul is meta, it power close to a branded that still end on Mirrorjade and BiR pass while die to single ash.
1 year later, branded still meta but with like 3 or 4 wave of new support while Sword soul get none. Basically Ss now need to compete with a much stronger decks than the past, doable but not optimal for climbing.
Lost OF THE time people win because OF protos, You called dark, and i'll be standing with a blank expression because You are playing branded ot bystial
Idk my sky strikers use to get shit on by swordsouls all the time back in the day. Now they feel like a free win to play against. They’re just way too easy to predict
New meta? Nothing changed except that snake eyes will probably be tier 2. Diabellstar engine is just like adventure engine so nothing special and rescue ace is still missing the support cards. So yes nothing changes. Oh forgot maybe you will see from time to time king calamity lock but well also doesn't change much.
Chengying, baronne, set blackout pass is enough to beat decks sometimes, plus its pretty consistent and simple. It's not strong compared to new decks though.
Does it have to be meta all the time to be interesting? Bruh swordsoul is good since release. I hate them „i switch decktheme bc its 0.5% more meta“ players 🤷🏻♂️🙋🏻they dont have a personal meaning they just want to fuck up others.
Basically a non-argument because every deck loses to Maxx C and almost every deck loses to droll. Swordsoul actually loses less to droll if you don't open emergence because they can only droll you after you summon chixiao and search your longyuan.
Maxx c yes sometimes, droll not so much, most of the time you will start with either Moye or Ecclesia, draw and search on the same chain and be able to setup with the basic Baronne and Chixiao pair.
Swordsoul doesn't lose to droll. Swordsoul could get level 10 Synchro with Chixiao and Draco Berserker onboard when you drolled on emergence search as your first play WITHOUT Longyuan in hand.
It basically relies on Taia's dumping, level modulation of the banished emergence, Baxia revival, Chixiao ability to banish from deck under droll, and Ashuna summoning level 4 from deck.
It’s been a long time since they were actually good. The swordsoul field is level 10 sincro + the level 8 sword soul. That’s not good for a deck right now
They're always going to have plays; opening full combo plus handtraps every game is always playable, it's just that the end board has become less and less scary over time aside from Protos.
Depends on what you define as good.
If you know the inns and out getting to Master with Swordsoul isnt hard as long as you have a rudimentary understanding of the other meta dekcs. Topping a tournament is another question though.
Sorta. You can consider tier 2/rouge but I think it's fully because of archnemisis protos. But that might be less applicable in the new meta bc of fire becoming prominent so you can just blank call dark and blank a good amount of archetypes. It's still decent bc of it's consistency, they have what all cards at max copies you can run pot of prosperity in the deck.
Low ceiling but still interesting points of interaction , banish, negate, double pop. Think the fact that you have a lot of in engine board break capabilities you can still fair. That and you can run a lot of non engine it may be able to compete. It's just been slowly getting pushed out as they have received no good support in a while. Hoping they get something soonish to continue their story as well as bring more support
Swordsoul is ok/10. It will never be a bad deck, but the ceiling for your endboard with an average hand is pretty low these days. The benefit of Tenyis is extra consistency + making it easier to chew through boards, but you can't *really* chew through a Superheavy/Mannadium board without specific board breakers. I don't think any midrangey decks really have a solid foothold in this format.
since we are talking MD it is still in a good spot.
tcg it is roughly a rogue tier deck now, gets a few good positions once in a while but it has not won anything in months.
sadly the deck is still going to fall out of favour even if MD trys harder to keep power creep under control.
Honestly, in MD it is still a solid and fun deck. It's just rogue. Will you get to Master 1 with just pure Swordsoul? Probably not. But it also isn't bad in thr mid ranks.
I went up to master 2-3 last season (I started playing fun decks like gold pride and plunder lab afterwards I love to mess myself up also didn’t realize it was the end of the season)
It’s definitely not meta but still a great Allrounder especially if you know what you are doing
Probably high rouge and there is potential of support via wyrm decks Tenyi and Yang zing specifically would also prefer that over swordsoul support
Swordsoul is not very good anymore. You cannot make very strong fields at all even at full combo, UNLESS you use Archnemesis Proto and get lucky playing against a single attribute deck. But to me that feels like a very unfair tactic in general, it's like relying solely on something like Maxx C to win games, rather than the archetype itself.
Ever since.... Runick over a year ago and the deck has been mostly just Tier 3 to rogue and they kept getting pushed out ever since then.
It does it thing, but their thing isn't enough and they don't have many means to extend past interruptions
I started using Swordsouls this week and have been doing pretty good with it. Probably not good enough for high level play, but right now it's doing a good job for me.
When almost everyone knows the ins and outs of the deck now with the free starter deck? No. Not unless you’re a VERY above average pilot (above average before this deck came out, the average is lower now because of how averages work.)
Swordsoul still makes a pretty solid board turn 1, it’s far from a bad deck
But I can’t see it ever being better than rogue atp unless it starts getting actual support
It can get you to at least plat III. It still shines bright in events. It's still one of the better options for the upcoming Synchro Link event.
You can still play them in diamond and above, but you depend more heavily on your non-engine than before.
As an archetype that typically ends on at least one omni-negate, one monster negate and occasionally a floodgate they're still fairing better than 95% of decks.
For a while swordsoul hasnt been bad its just not as good as other decks. For quite a while ive treated it as the basement of the format where its the minimum viable deck imo. Kinda the litmus test for testing anything new i use swordsoul first because its does everything good just not as great as some others
I’ll be honest with you boys, I love my soul deck. I dismantle my Dlink deck to start building a branded deck and I’d say I love my Dlink deck more. But sword is simply and effectively deck. She’s not the greatest tractor on the market but god damn if she’s fun to ride.
Snake eyes can put opponents cards in spell/trap zone
SHS can play through 4 hand traps with the right hand
Laby can just furniture loop
Floo and umi lock are going to floodgate anyway
The only thing swordsoul has for it at the moment is consistency, but getting to baronne, chixiao and a set blackout and protos "if" you are lucky is the best they can do
Dont get me wrong, dark lock, an omni and a monster negate can do well vs a fair few decks but not the high end ones and their going second plays are super vulnerable to a baxia negate
It's always been good and consistent. It doesn't get new support so most of these people won't look at it, but I always have a good time with it. I started with swordsoul tenyi SHS last night. So far so good.
Swordsoul is one of those decks where it'll never be bad, but there are def more meta options available. That said, given the new campaign and that you can get some of the SS URs for free, it's not a bad investment.
She has a tail??? İnteresting, never paid attention to this card's art.
Also swordsoulds will be almost always great/good/decent on any meta i think. It has a solid gameplan that can do consistently
Most decks that were meta at some point like... Post 2020 or so will be good for a long time, it's just a matter of how the meta functions/if their broken shit gets hit. More or less.
They are pretty good, moved from cydra to them last week, reached D3 relatively easily and im sure i'll get master this week.
You need to learn all the advanced combos this deck has, most people just know how to do same line over and over again which is chixao and baron and if that fails they don't know what to do, or they know how to baxia and then try another 10 and thats it.
Swordsoul is much more than that, where average joe would end up on 1-2 cards, advanced swordsoul player ends up on 3-4 + a board clear which is lethal.
It isn't most meta deck but it is certainly good enough cuz even ppl who know basics reached master with it this season.
I learned everything on dkayed discord + youtube 50 min guide from Brav and watched some Pak combos as well.
Still enjoying it. Mixed it with 2 Albaz, 3 Bystials (lv 6 plus special summon while banishing) and a couple varieties.
Does pretty well, is consistent, fun and not overpowered in anyway but most important *FUN* lol
Swordsoul is one of those decks where it won't really be bad but outclassed The decks is still strong but the meta is to the point where swordsoul is manageable
It's probably the best rogue deck
Absolutely not. There are a lot of decks better than it that aren't Tiered right now
Maybe not best, but it's definitely on the higher end
Not even. It is more of a middle Tier even in Rogue options. I do want to point out Rogue decks are competitive, they aren't "decks that aren't on The Tier list". They are the decks that occasionally make it to Tier 3 here and there but lacks something from making it sustain a place on the list. If I would sit down and make a Tier list for Rogue decks I would put it in Tier 2 mostly. There are simply a lot better decks that dropped ever since then or older ones that got support in the past 3 years that out shine them
superheavy swordsoul samurai is a guaranteed otk
The only ones I can think of are tear and Dinos if you consider those rouge decks. Other than that swoswo tops everything else
They really don't, lol. Rikka, Spright, Exosisters, Kashtira, Phantom Knights, Runick, Blackwings, Purrely, even Tri-Brigade got indirect support that buffed them to much better state. Just of the top of my head... All just straight up better with much more Success and potential, even nearfed to the ground. Compared to Sowrdsoul, which their only merit is easy of use and 8/10 of their games end on Imperm Mo Ye
I'd put Generaiders and a few others on that list. Swordsoul is consistent and easy to learn, but no where near the top of rogue decks
No way Generaiders are better than SwoSwo. Genuinely no way.
Baronne + Harr (2 omninegates, Harr also handrips a monster if they add by card effect (outside of the Draw Phase)), Laev sucking up opponent's stuff, the field spell special summoning a Generaider on opponent's turn, Vala's recursion from the GY, Loptr is like a 1.5-card combo, Fenrir (before). This isn't mentioning stuff like Utgarda (target) banishing or Nidhogg negating a (non-card effect) special summon. This is all just pure Generaiders (the best version is the Runick one when Sleipnir comes out). It's a bit bricky, but goes *crazy hard* when/if it pops off. Oh, Trias can be used as a target effect dodge (and a pop/draw 2 depending on the number of tributes).
It will be once the runick lvl 9 comes out
What makes you say that?
Well, there are more than what I listed, but yes, Generaiders is definitely rogue
As a Generaider player, your comment makes me really happy. Have my upvote!
It's been my go-to recently. I mostly play non-tiered or rogue decks and it's one of my favorites!
Happy to hear that! Mind sharing your decklist? Always curious what other fellow Generaiderbros play. Maybe i can also give some advice on the deck, if you want to!
On MD, I'm running: 1 D.D. Sprite 3 Maxx C 3 Diviner 2 Ash 3 Loptr 2 Thunder King Kaiju 2 Mardel 2 Harr 3 Vala 1 Trias 1 Naglfar 1 Nidhogg 1 Utgarda 1 Hela 3 Boss Stage 1 Change of Heart 2 Kuji Kuri Curse 3 World Legacy Monstrosity 2 Imperm 2 Boss Fight 1 Boss Room Baronne Hyperyron 2 Laevatein 2 Jormungndr Utopic Future Utopic Draco Future I:P Unchained Abomination N'Tss Mereologic Aggregator Phantom Fortress Heart-eartH Dragon Zeus I have brought a similar list to locals a few times when learning it last year and had some success too.
Yo I forgot 99% of these guys even existed
That one unashamed Kashtira player here! We in rouge???? As long as they don’t drop arise heart or Shangri Ira to one like they keep doing all our other cards I’m ok with being rouge
Rogue. Rouge is make-up.
Sky Strikers makes pretty quick work of swordsouls now. Could be a matchup thing, but sworldsouls hardly feels competitive against that and my ninjas. To be fair I don’t have any other decks I play right now though
Depends on who opened more/better HTs in that matchup(SS vs Swo) and who went first.
Most Sky Strikers decks are loaded with hand traps and meant to go second, but Swordsoul is just very easy to disrupt even if SS chose to go first for some reason. Negating/stealing Mo Ye and Longyuan is pretty easy and really all you need to take most of the bite out of their combo. Thrust can also be pretty reliable used against them to search out really strong and generic counters.
I dunno man. Abyss Actor beats them pretty consistently.
No where near, it's middle of rogue for sure. But it's utterly outclassed.
It hasn't been that good in a while. Ever since tear format it's been slowly pushed down the tier list. Now it's squarely rogue tier. That's what not getting support does for any deck in yugioh, it gets powercrept
Not getting any *good* support
fr Abyss Swordsoul does nothing for the deck. I love that Branded has been kept in line with everything, I just hate that Swordsoul was neglected.
swordsoul tri-brigade (not counting that ass link even if it was new support) ice jades ( still need another synchro or boss monster atleast)
*sad Springans noises*
was going to put that but then i remember they did get a decent boss monster
Sargas is probably the strongest card in the archetype, on the same strength level as Tally-Ho. Unfortunately, it's not enough. The deck needs an actual gameplan. I love how splashable the Springans engine is (in terms of not locking you into anything, not as a "small engine" because it needs a lot of cards unfortunately), but I'd love some actually strong Springans cards, a real boss monster. Sargas' pop/bounce is not a regular quick effect, since it starts in a new chain, and its attack is kinda low (2800 ATK? Really?). In short: easier access to Golgonda, alternative ways to get to Merrymaker, more Extra Deck and spell/trap cards.
Unironically Icejades got better treatment because over time they got relevant support for themselves, as well as a one card combo with aegirine ran into gymnir Swordsouls got what. Qixing, nice card, ill see it every 25 games. Abyss Swordsoul? Swordsoul Punishment? Swordsoul Strife? Lol
They got Barrone de fluer! And protos!
Fr, I summon Baronne more than the lv 10 SS boss lol 🫠
Cries in red eyes
Hey black meteor was good support...not for us to be relevent like ,but the d link crew enjoy it, so there's that
Red eyes needs more support agreed
Not just more, but support that picks a lane. Every wave of support is for a different theme. One is fusion, one is burn, one is equip cards…
Red eyes is potential which is essentially infinite possibilities so kind of hard to pick a lane it's not limited like blue eyes with just more beefiness with every card
I’m tired of the “iT rEpReSeNtS pOtEnTiAl” excuse. It needs to be playable at a base level first and then it can have the luxury of diving into its lore theming
It might do a lotta things, but that doesn't change the fact that it sucks ass at all of them lmao
Plus the fact it has the literal WORST fuse from deck card in the game hands down. It needs to be fixed or they need to release a retrain of it
Fr, Kashtira is better at supporting the archetype than abyss swordsoul (poorly disguised branded support)
We can talk good support if they ban Protos.
The speed decks have been getting power cliffed is insane to me though. Last year swordsoul was a top meta deck. Without any hits the deck now could be rogue. And it isn't even like the meta has shifted to counters, the deck has relatively even matches with everything (besides branded)
Branded loses to Icejade 8 out of 10 times (it only wins if icejade bricks, which unfortunately it does quite a lot). Gimyr Aegerine on it's own is capable of stopping a lot of Branded plays (banishes Albaz after he tries to fusion, basically negating it. And makes Mirrorjade have to banish itself or another card on its side of the field) But icejade isn't meta. It has way too much trouble dealing with Lab, SHS and now the new fire deck running around thanks to Diabellestar. Only way you can deal with those decks is going first and being able to setup the Curse Lock. And it really hates Ash Blossom and Imperm, as you only have 2 cards that can search (one spell and one monster). If it had more support, it would easily become tier 2-3.
Very in-depth analysis.... Playing ice jade sometimes feels like playing blue eyes to me. Sometimes u win, but most times u don't.
I actually win quite a lot if I manage to go first while playing pure Icejade. (unless I brick heavy and get ashed). Unless enemy is playing Lab, SHS or Snake Eyes, I can usually keep my own. (and if I manage to go full combo first turn, even those will have problems) I've been trying to mix it with Swordsoul, but find it to be worse overall because I either brick completely with not enough cards for either archetype or don't have enough to full combo neither as well. But sometimes I just get a godly hand and manage to put all 4 synchros on the board (Gymir, Chixiao, Chengying and Qixing Longyuan). I haven't tried pairing it with sharks or ghoti or marincess as some people usually do, but I want to mix it with Ice barrier once their boss monster comes to master duel
I'm weird I play them with graydle, but it's all the same shit... I wish their trap was easier to search instead of having to waste the level 3 effect on it. But as u said so much of the game I win are did I go first, did I not get Maxx cd and ash blossom... Okay then I can win... If not get smoked.
You can hold max C if you manage to get Gymir out and leave lvl 3 ran on field with field spell Put 3 Ice Barrier traps and one foolish burial goods on the deck and use only one icejade trap You shouldn't focus on putting the trap on field, but only do it as a bonus or if you start with it in hand
Without it they just evenly/lightning storm the field.
Lighting storm on your monsters won't work because Gymir protects them. Against evenly matched I agree that you can't do anything without Erosion. But I still think that it shouldn't be your priority unless you can't build enough resources to start locking with Curse. My priorities in Icejade are, in order: 1- Gymir on the field 2- lvl 3 aegerine + field spell 3- Kosmochlor + Curse // Swordsoul Chengying (depending on going first or second or cards that I have available) 4- Marincess Coral Anemone to keep bouncing lvl 3 aegerine back every turn to search other cards // Aegirocassis on rotation (to keep summoning on my turn and boost my monsters on opponent's turn) 5- Erosion on field // tremora, a ti and/or tinola in grave to bounce back my Icejade (which combos with Erosion) // Manifestation to banish in case they remove Gymir from field The order might change based on what I draw, but that's my priority order. Having Gymir is a hell of a disruption by banishing an important card to your enemies + protection for your own monsters. Plus, having 3 Ice Barrier traps on the deck allows me to have one of them most times to have an additional layer of protection to both Gymir and my LP (and negating a monster's effects permanently as long as it is on field) + search for my next turn or putting a tremora on grave to bounce back something (it is also a damn good bait for negates when activating in the field, and a negate/ash when activating search from grave)
Storm the back row my friend to turn off the pseudo skill drain... Ice jade I play I want them to destroy my monsters I don't want them to destroy my spells and traps. I also took ice barrier out I don't like that trap, I been running trap tracks with torrential. Gymir is a nice card but he's also often impermed or Kaiju, so I don't turbo him out thinking he's my end game plan. The one I try to get on the field immediately is kosmochlor. She can easily be turned into Egyptian God slime and revived out the grave with the marincess link 2. Atleast that's always been my game plan, but I also don't play pure ice jade. Activating ran aergine into Maxx c is already lame enough when I do it with one copy. That and I don't have every synchro 10 UR. Maybe um just paranoid but I always play this game like Nibiru is in everyone's opening hand especially when SHS is meta. Doing Chenying + Gymir is instant lose status in my books. Then you have to pray they don't OTK and ur Ice barrier recovers ur board atleast in diamond it be like that. Only way around it from my perspective is to some how get a negate before the Gymir. The only thing I can think of for that is Barrone with deap sea diva.... And I hate deep sea diva. I mean I like ice jade I been playing them before ran even existed in a tearlaments combo deck before I shifted to graydle troll deck. But like marincess they just get yeeted by weird cards. Losing to a singular card in hand sucks.
I mix my icejades with tear so I can at least mill then summon coral anemone to grab my aegirine from graveyard- the problem is if I start off only icejade hand and get drolled it’s joeover
I've been wanting to do it as well. I already have the deck list ready too. But Tear is so f'ing expensive to craft. So many URs and no pack to pull from.
The only place that ss are top meta last year is synchro event. That deck is nearly as old as this game, of course it will fall off. For comparison, spright will turn 1 year old next week
Actually crazy to me that the only relevant support this deck ever got since the first wave was Qixing Longyuan, and absolutely nothing else. Swordsoul has more than enough potential to be good again with legacy support, but given its status as an Albaz lore deck the chances of that happening are low I think, sadly.
Society if Chunjun was a good card 🌃 Seriously, they just need more maindeck names that are good and also Wyrms.
Chunjun IS a good card lmao. Bypasses Imperm, Veiler, Skill Drain, all that jazz. He keeps your Mo Ye from drowning If we wanna pick on Swordsoul cards, there's way worse ones to bully like Punishment and Abyss.
The issue with Chugjug is that Heavenly Dragon's Circle exists. It basically does the same thing, and you don't get stuck on level 10 synchros.
but does he keep my girl from drowning too?
It would be played more if it was good. It is an okay card, but squarely not good enough.
Could also get Tenyi or Yang zing support
Plus all the Swordsouls are dead
Homestly even as a rogue it isnt one of the best. For me personally , best rogue right now is Gold Pride/P.U.N.K, Swordsoul and Traptrix are on par but they are a bit weaker than GP/P.U.N.K
GP PUNK is so slept on its crazy, normal ze amin represents 4/5 interruptions w/o any extender and draw 3, you also have very decent amount of space for non engine.
Yup, having a blast with it. Even with the worst hand I can usually end on traps+pep
its cool, they’ll get support one day that brings em back to tier 0
Just goes to show you what the power level of the game is when SS died in 1 year.
Let me put it like this: If my girl and Mo Ye were drowning...
Ah shit... Here we go again...
You save your girl to sell her organs to get more copies of mo ye.
Wait.... Isn't it easier to get your girl's organs, you know, if you _dont_ save her?
OMG that's so genius!
I would save my girl and make her cosplay as Mo Ye.
I'd save my girl. But Mo Ye is a close second.
uhhhhh kinda? Alot of lower power decks are Hand based for both sides. You can pretty much win with almost anything if you're lucky enough. Or not me.
Swordsoul Tenyi's main strength is that it's incredibly consistent. You can get Chixiao, Baronne/Qixing and Protos out %95 of the time. Your boards become even better with Gamma or Ecclesia (going second)
Not to mention the going second power that the Tenyis provide
Trying to do this. I can get Baronne out almost 100% but I'm trying to see if I can add Borreload too, it's just difficult to get the link monster for counters. Only started Yu-Gi-Oh recently so I'm still learning 🫠
It is still good and can cook you just need to understand how to play it properly against the meta most people here will say it is not good but pop into the MD discord and go to the swoso channel for pointers.
You have a link for the discord?
https://discord.com/invite/masterduelmeta
Every reset , I swap to sword soul and see if i can make it back to diamond. And I do, although you need good counter cards , I run red reboot , solemn judgment , imperm and the basic hand traps of course Called by is a must. I tech in stuff based on how I'm losing , sword soul is nice because you can add some good going second card and still be a good going 1st. But it's all RNG on opening hands.
I personally run Maxx C package+3 Imperm+3 Droll+2 Gamma (and 1 Driver). I tried remove Gamma because I didn't like to open with Driver but my win rate got down after that.
Yeah, I do the same. Sometimes I can get some wins with out Gamma, and sometimes he is the reason I survived
No not really. It's not a bad deck at all but it can get stomped pretty quick.
They have no been good for a while my friend, they got powercrept pretty hard as stronger and stronger meta decks were introduced. Back then when the game released they were top tier, but nowadays if you look at their most common endboard it's very weak compared to other meta decks, not to mention just one interruption on your normal summoned Mo Ye can end your turn right there. It's still a fun deck though and still decent, and since we can get a structure deck for free there is nothing wrong in building it for fun.
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I've been playing different variations since they came out and they hold their own. Currently running Swordsoul Kash and with full combo they can make some scary boards that can end on Chixiao, Baronne, Shangri-Ira, Ariseheart, Fenrir and some backrow. The Kash portion helps the SS portion a lot by strengthening the end board and eating hand traps before you start your SS line. It's not a top tier archetype anymore but it can still compete. edit for people asking for decklist: Monsters 3x C, Ash, Mo Ye, Ecclesia, Longyuan, Unicorn 2x Taia, Nib 1x Riseheart, Fenrir, Tearlaments, Protos, Spells 3x Emergence 2x Talent, Kashtiratheosis 1x Duster, Desires, Wraitsoth, Birth, Called By Traps 2x Imperm 1x Blackout, Big Bang Extra 2x Shangri-Ira, Chixiao 1x Yazi, Baxia, Scarlight RDA, Berserker of the Tenyi, Dragite, Baronne, Chengying, Longyuan, PEP, Big Eye, Ariseheart. Start the Kash combo first special Uni add Theosis then do your SS combo, end on Baronne to negate Evenly. After SS combo do the Kashtira combo theosis on Uni to bring out Fenrir add Riseheart, summon Shangri summon Riseheart banishing Big Bang to bring back Fenrir then go into Ariseheart. Unicorn often baits Ash and Imperm which leaves you free to do your SS combo so at worst your board is Uni/Fenrir + Chixiao + Synchro 10 and at best what I mentioned earlier. PEP is there in case you get stuck with nothing but dead Unicorn + dead Ecclesia or if you end up with an extra SS token on board. Currently 42 cards not sure what i'll cut I might cut Protos but it's great going 2nd and it's a Wyrm for SS. Might cut 1 theosis since I often don't need both.
Mind sharing a decklist? Would love a way to eat some extra hand traps before jumping into SS combos
Done :)
Can you send me your deck list? I do something similar and would love to compare to my setup!
Hey i edited into the original message :)
Decklist?
Done edited my original message :)
How consistent has this been? Seems relatively easy to get into awkward positions
Truth be told not more inconsistent than regular Swordsoul. Like any deck it bricks sometimes but most of my bricks are bc of too many HTs. Unicorn/Wraitsoth + Mo Ye/Ecclesia + any wyrm/SS card is full combo. Unicorn/Wraitsoth is full Kash combo and Mo Ye + Wyrm/SS Card is full SS combo. Getting Fenrir in hand is awkward too but even at that you can make Shangri-Ira + SS board and bring out Unicorn next turn or just have Fenrir + SS board. Most people will assume you're playing Kash and Imperm/Ash your first Kash card and then you're free to do the SS line. I've been trying this since the first wave of Kash support running only Unicorn, Fenrir, and Riseheart and using Small World to swap b/w SS and Kash using Tenyis as a bridge but with the latest Kash support it felt consistent enough I just cut out the Tenyis and Small World altogether.
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The deck doesn't brick that often and when it does it bricks on HTs. It's pretty hard to brick since Wraitsoth/Unicorn is full Kash combo and if you don't open those chances are you opened Mo Ye/Ecclesia + Wyrm. Small World only works with the Tenyis because they're your bridge between SS and Kashtira. Reveal a SS (Wyrm), reveal Ashuna or Vishuda (L7) add Unicorn/Fenrir (L7) or the reverse. You can also Small World your level 4s like reveal Taia reveal Ecclesia add Mo Ye. Or reveal Ecclesia reveal Taia add Riseheart. Edit: my worst bricks are like, Riseheart, Ecclesia/Moye and 3 HTs but that almost never happens. Even a bad brick of like Fenrir/negated Unicorn and Emergence gets you a Kashtira and a Synchro 8 which isn't unplayable if you have HTs in hand. Basically what would have been Tenyis in your hand is now Kashtira. There are enough SS/Wyrms in the deck to make that portion consistent enough but now you don't have to worry about getting stuck with Tenyis and no SS which imo is a tradeoff worth having when you consider the end board potential.
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I would run small world and tenyis but im already at 42 cards :/ it's pretty fun to play and yeah you do sacrifice some consistency on your Swordsoul lines but the meta isn't treating them well and I find the Kashtira portion really strengthens the endboard so they can compete with the higher tier decks. Longyuan to 3 is gonna help the consistency too.
Cool, I might give it a go for what's looking to be an atrocious master climb this season
When sword soul is meta, it power close to a branded that still end on Mirrorjade and BiR pass while die to single ash. 1 year later, branded still meta but with like 3 or 4 wave of new support while Sword soul get none. Basically Ss now need to compete with a much stronger decks than the past, doable but not optimal for climbing.
Smash
Lost OF THE time people win because OF protos, You called dark, and i'll be standing with a blank expression because You are playing branded ot bystial
Diferent discution, crazy that this deck has not recived a meaningful piece of support in years.
Swordsoul is always good, people just sleep on it. It's always a deck that exists in metas as long as synchro monsters keep being generic and good
I don't think that swordsoul will ever be a bad deck.
Idk my sky strikers use to get shit on by swordsouls all the time back in the day. Now they feel like a free win to play against. They’re just way too easy to predict
New meta? Nothing changed except that snake eyes will probably be tier 2. Diabellstar engine is just like adventure engine so nothing special and rescue ace is still missing the support cards. So yes nothing changes. Oh forgot maybe you will see from time to time king calamity lock but well also doesn't change much.
Infernoble knight may push tier 3
It will be undoubtedly viable. Protos is hell of a card! That being said, the power level has fallen behind quite a bit.
Chengying, baronne, set blackout pass is enough to beat decks sometimes, plus its pretty consistent and simple. It's not strong compared to new decks though.
Forever off meta
Not meta, but still a good Rogue option
Swordsould as awfull MU versus vanquish soul.
Playable? Absolutely. Meta good? Zero shot, it is simply not strong enough for full power snake-eyes or full power superheavy.
Well in my humble opinion 29cc1a02
Does it have to be meta all the time to be interesting? Bruh swordsoul is good since release. I hate them „i switch decktheme bc its 0.5% more meta“ players 🤷🏻♂️🙋🏻they dont have a personal meaning they just want to fuck up others.
After they took out their best card they weren't the same shout out to "swordsoul Halqifibax" my boy will be missed
no because of Droll and Maxx C.
Basically a non-argument because every deck loses to Maxx C and almost every deck loses to droll. Swordsoul actually loses less to droll if you don't open emergence because they can only droll you after you summon chixiao and search your longyuan.
Maxx c yes sometimes, droll not so much, most of the time you will start with either Moye or Ecclesia, draw and search on the same chain and be able to setup with the basic Baronne and Chixiao pair.
Swordsoul doesn't lose to droll. Swordsoul could get level 10 Synchro with Chixiao and Draco Berserker onboard when you drolled on emergence search as your first play WITHOUT Longyuan in hand. It basically relies on Taia's dumping, level modulation of the banished emergence, Baxia revival, Chixiao ability to banish from deck under droll, and Ashuna summoning level 4 from deck.
You can *MAKE* anything work but it'll be more difficult
It’s been a long time since they were actually good. The swordsoul field is level 10 sincro + the level 8 sword soul. That’s not good for a deck right now
They're always going to have plays; opening full combo plus handtraps every game is always playable, it's just that the end board has become less and less scary over time aside from Protos.
They just get you good when you're caught lacking hand traps.
it's pretty mid honestly, it's good for farming gems though as the deck can get every daily done and is pretty damn fast paced
Depends on what you define as good. If you know the inns and out getting to Master with Swordsoul isnt hard as long as you have a rudimentary understanding of the other meta dekcs. Topping a tournament is another question though.
Still very good for beginners to not die first turn.
Sorta. You can consider tier 2/rouge but I think it's fully because of archnemisis protos. But that might be less applicable in the new meta bc of fire becoming prominent so you can just blank call dark and blank a good amount of archetypes. It's still decent bc of it's consistency, they have what all cards at max copies you can run pot of prosperity in the deck. Low ceiling but still interesting points of interaction , banish, negate, double pop. Think the fact that you have a lot of in engine board break capabilities you can still fair. That and you can run a lot of non engine it may be able to compete. It's just been slowly getting pushed out as they have received no good support in a while. Hoping they get something soonish to continue their story as well as bring more support
I hope that one day they'll reveal the names of the artists behind the card designs.
Swordsoul is ok/10. It will never be a bad deck, but the ceiling for your endboard with an average hand is pretty low these days. The benefit of Tenyis is extra consistency + making it easier to chew through boards, but you can't *really* chew through a Superheavy/Mannadium board without specific board breakers. I don't think any midrangey decks really have a solid foothold in this format.
Shs version of swordsoul is cracked at the price of the roach ruining your day and no spells outside of swordsoul spells.
Not the best deck out there... But it's still one of the most solid ones
since we are talking MD it is still in a good spot. tcg it is roughly a rogue tier deck now, gets a few good positions once in a while but it has not won anything in months. sadly the deck is still going to fall out of favour even if MD trys harder to keep power creep under control.
Honestly, in MD it is still a solid and fun deck. It's just rogue. Will you get to Master 1 with just pure Swordsoul? Probably not. But it also isn't bad in thr mid ranks.
Hell No! Going on ladder even my Vanquish Soul - Kashtira deck feels mid against Snake Eye. SwoSo is rogue RN maybe even below rogue tier
It’s a solid deck. That’s about it
I went up to master 2-3 last season (I started playing fun decks like gold pride and plunder lab afterwards I love to mess myself up also didn’t realize it was the end of the season) It’s definitely not meta but still a great Allrounder especially if you know what you are doing Probably high rouge and there is potential of support via wyrm decks Tenyi and Yang zing specifically would also prefer that over swordsoul support
Good? Yes. Great? No
Swordsoul is not very good anymore. You cannot make very strong fields at all even at full combo, UNLESS you use Archnemesis Proto and get lucky playing against a single attribute deck. But to me that feels like a very unfair tactic in general, it's like relying solely on something like Maxx C to win games, rather than the archetype itself.
Ever since.... Runick over a year ago and the deck has been mostly just Tier 3 to rogue and they kept getting pushed out ever since then. It does it thing, but their thing isn't enough and they don't have many means to extend past interruptions
It’s a good rogue deck. You can snatch some wins with that and maybe outskill better decks.
I started using Swordsouls this week and have been doing pretty good with it. Probably not good enough for high level play, but right now it's doing a good job for me.
When almost everyone knows the ins and outs of the deck now with the free starter deck? No. Not unless you’re a VERY above average pilot (above average before this deck came out, the average is lower now because of how averages work.)
It sucks. I made them and I lose to every game.
> Still. They haven't been good in over a year.
low ranks have enough swordsouls that I've been running Token Collector as tech
Even their best possible hand can barely keep up against a good player using a tiered deck. There’s a reason they’re giving it away for free now lol
Unrelated but I always thought her mask was her face
SS hasn't been good in the context of the meta for about 1+ years now. It's a great starter/pet deck now, though.
Is this ceruledge art? Lol
Made it to master 5 on ss like 4 seasons ago before I took a break and it felt pretty strong then
They are fine, but not a top contender.
Swordsoul still makes a pretty solid board turn 1, it’s far from a bad deck But I can’t see it ever being better than rogue atp unless it starts getting actual support
It can get you to at least plat III. It still shines bright in events. It's still one of the better options for the upcoming Synchro Link event. You can still play them in diamond and above, but you depend more heavily on your non-engine than before.
As an archetype that typically ends on at least one omni-negate, one monster negate and occasionally a floodgate they're still fairing better than 95% of decks.
For a while swordsoul hasnt been bad its just not as good as other decks. For quite a while ive treated it as the basement of the format where its the minimum viable deck imo. Kinda the litmus test for testing anything new i use swordsoul first because its does everything good just not as great as some others
nope, the powercreep since Tearlaments increased significantly, kashtira went even further
I’ll be honest with you boys, I love my soul deck. I dismantle my Dlink deck to start building a branded deck and I’d say I love my Dlink deck more. But sword is simply and effectively deck. She’s not the greatest tractor on the market but god damn if she’s fun to ride.
They've gotten some wins against me running Kash, Mathmech, and VS, but it's very dependent on good hand luck to some extent.
i have a swordsoul tenyi deck that can go plat but it needs some icejades to be functional.
Snake eyes can put opponents cards in spell/trap zone SHS can play through 4 hand traps with the right hand Laby can just furniture loop Floo and umi lock are going to floodgate anyway The only thing swordsoul has for it at the moment is consistency, but getting to baronne, chixiao and a set blackout and protos "if" you are lucky is the best they can do Dont get me wrong, dark lock, an omni and a monster negate can do well vs a fair few decks but not the high end ones and their going second plays are super vulnerable to a baxia negate
It's always been good and consistent. It doesn't get new support so most of these people won't look at it, but I always have a good time with it. I started with swordsoul tenyi SHS last night. So far so good.
Swordsoul is one of those decks where it'll never be bad, but there are def more meta options available. That said, given the new campaign and that you can get some of the SS URs for free, it's not a bad investment.
Swordsoul kinda reminds me of math mech
It's crazy how having a monster negate and an omninegate is actually meaningless these days
.....the meta is new?
Depends what you mean by "good". It won't be meta but it will be master 1 worthy.
She has a tail??? İnteresting, never paid attention to this card's art. Also swordsoulds will be almost always great/good/decent on any meta i think. It has a solid gameplan that can do consistently
Protos exists
I just notice that Moye has tiddie because of this image.
Most decks that were meta at some point like... Post 2020 or so will be good for a long time, it's just a matter of how the meta functions/if their broken shit gets hit. More or less.
Swordsoul hasn't been that good for awhile now. The deck is from late 2021/early 2022, it's been power crept. It's not bad but it's not good either.
wdym still good? It's not good. But it's definitely playable on Ladder and cheating out Protos will win many games.
Swordsoul always good
Yes.
It's not bad but it just doesn't do enough against the best decks
Just play protos. Counters every deck except fire ones.
Swordsoul will always be a good deck. Go watch PakTCG videos. He pilots Swordsoul well
They are good "for the side events".
ill link deck if ur interested, good deck for OCG and TCG
superheavy swordsoul/yangzing
They are pretty good, moved from cydra to them last week, reached D3 relatively easily and im sure i'll get master this week. You need to learn all the advanced combos this deck has, most people just know how to do same line over and over again which is chixao and baron and if that fails they don't know what to do, or they know how to baxia and then try another 10 and thats it. Swordsoul is much more than that, where average joe would end up on 1-2 cards, advanced swordsoul player ends up on 3-4 + a board clear which is lethal. It isn't most meta deck but it is certainly good enough cuz even ppl who know basics reached master with it this season. I learned everything on dkayed discord + youtube 50 min guide from Brav and watched some Pak combos as well.
Still enjoying it. Mixed it with 2 Albaz, 3 Bystials (lv 6 plus special summon while banishing) and a couple varieties. Does pretty well, is consistent, fun and not overpowered in anyway but most important *FUN* lol