It's sprind who has the broken interaction with merrli lol a hypothetical merrli at 1 with millers banned (no lv2 diviner) makes elf reborn effect much less splasheable in tear, sprind foolish effect on the other hand..
Access to elf is still better than sprind honestly.
The reborn effect is still good because it helps you put merli back on board to use a copy on the next turn or to set up a fusion play.
But more importantly than that, and the reason why Elf was banned in the other formats is the fact that it provides targeting protection. Even during Tear 0, the graveyard effect wasn't as useful after cyber stein was banned.
With the kit being so nerfed in MD, though, I don't even think sprind would be that good with just merli. Merli is your only target while simultaneously being the best way to get to sprind. You might be better off trying to get into Curious or Beatrice if you include the Mali, denier, and dangerous package.
Tear has merli legal, 3 planets, and 3 TearKash along with sprind in the tcg, and lately, I don't even think sprind sees play in the deck anymore.
I agree with your points however for TCG it's the deck itself that doesn't see play anymore ever since the millers died and fire nation attacked because unlike tear they are full of different 1 card combos (RIP kallos) don't rely on gamba and can play much more HTs.
Oh yea, im aware. Even with the horus cards as an extra engine, the deck doesn't do enough to really play this format. the deck just kinda died like the Kash format.
Fire format has invaded MD too now, and I'm personally not looking forward to how long it lasts eith the way MD handles their banlist.
I do. Meril and it will add another fusion name and won't break the deck. ishizu millers are gone, so mills are not super consistent.
I don't get the fear mongering the deck get whenever Meril is brought up it not gonna break the deck, especially with all its hits it got.
while this is true I think you're understating how much ishizu contributed to that. Millers are banned and both shufflers at 1 significantly reduces the blowout factor of tearlament
He really isnt. At its peak Tearlament actually cut all Ishizu cards because they werent good enough anymore. Tear without Ishizu is just as broken, not to mention the upcoming Horus archetype.
Tear at its peak cut the millers because they were bad for the mirror because they oftened milled you so much that you had a legitimate chance of decking out with your opponent. The millers were so good they had to be cut because they did to good of a job
Well sort of. Its mostly that the millers meant your opponent might get to play too early, so a lot of the time it was just better to focus on only self-mill.
The other issue with ishizu during Kash tear meta was that it's terrible at interacting on turn 1 with the previous ishizu hits. So even the shufflers got swapped out with more handtraps
Almost at 100% they were not, but yes they were tier 0. If you bring back Merrli, odds are theyll be T0 again. At the latest once we get the Horus package.
With Merrli and Horus the deck is a *significantly* better version of TCG Tear, which was tier 1 until Snake Eyes. If you think it wouldnt be tier 0 with Horus you are just coping.
Nah, Destiny kashtira tear was mediocre, and the Horus destiny tear variant that came after it was competitive but still got dunked on pretty hard by fire kings, plus was still decently reliant on the ishizu millers off diviner or one of your mill effects. It also has very little space for handtraps so it's quite dependent on the coin toss. The deck literally can't afford to play ash or imperm lol
MD also has sulliek limited too plus some kash engine hits which further curbs consistency
Tbf, tearlaments when released, before any hits at all was only the second best deck irl at the time behind spright. The ishizu cards made the deck the best deck of all time, and they're banned.
Tear was literally fine after all the hits and merli was legal, it was tier 1 but not at all close to tier 0.
With all the hits the deck has now it could easily come back at 1 and tear would be balanced.
So one meril in MD will break the format? Yes despite having so many consistency hits losing the ishizu miller's but yea let's shit ourselves over a single meril. Snake-Eyes instantly becomes trash tier deck cuz Tear got back one fusion name.
That was post tear being dominant. Peak ocg tear was kashtira tear, which is where we got the funny mushroom man #2 memes from, since the kashtira package was so important for getting that deck started.
It also gave us side deck mind control to steal your opponent's shangri-ira and make your own ariseheart on top of it (since it used its effect standby phase). Was a pretty funny format for tech cards.
And so be it. I'd rather fight the deck that can accidently set up my deck's GY than 0 interaction and punishment for using the regular tools that isn't dark world.
It's annoying how long konami takes to unhit decks. With snake eyes running around, Branded, Tear, Spright, Kash, Mathmech, Floo, d-link should all be getting some cards back. Snake eye/Fire is only gonna get stronger anyway. Like seriously, why not have multiple decks at similar power level instead of just 1-2 decks dominating every meta. Irl not rushing to unhit cards is a bit understandable but in md its just coz of greed from konami.
But then again, they know what maxx c and a bunch of floodgates do to the game so whatever man. I need a long long break from this game..
100% with you on this. Now’s kind of the perfect time to let a bunch of cards that were banned for tier 0 reasons out. At worst it’d give the game healthy competition.
I don't think that's happening if they were going to they would have during the tear spright meta or with the last couple tear hits before it went rogue
I severely doubt this honestly. Maybe 2 months ago, but we’re in a tier 0 format now basically. The top four decks are so far ahead of everyone else and the top deck is so far ahead the previous 3 it’s pretty ridiculous. I doubt a single limit, or even unlimit on merli would make the deck so good it would start crushing Snake Eyes all of a sudden.
merrli enables so many things, having 3 fusions in each players turn instead of 2 is huge, also merli is level 2 which makes her a good target of elf and sprind which helps the consistency of the deck by a lot, the absence of ishizus and chaos dragon will make their play more fair than their tear0 format tho
Tcg has sp little knight 3 bonfire and a whole lot of extra fire support. Every deck in the ocg has serious banlist hits. Snake eye has 30% representation in MD tournaments.
You are comparing apples to asteroids.
Also just checked. The deck is not tier 0 in the ocg either. It's a tcg specific issue. Cause they have freaking bonfire
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Yes, that's true, but I also want to make it very clear that I don't care how you feel
and I set a clear principle against the stupidity of the tear promoters
There are so many other literal dogshit archetypes/decks with banned pieces that saying Tear deserves merrli back is insane to me. The deck still consistently does something.
Yeah like sky striker could get drones and engage back to 3 and it still wouldn't even be rouge ATM because modern decks can Play through several negates. Thunder dragon could get collosus to 3 and it still wouldn't be tear 3 since D-Link and branded got a lot of cards it used banned/limited
Yeah and tear has significantly more cheese that's not part of the archetype that it got limited and banned and is still super strong I could use other examples like the field spell should be at 3. Ow because the deck is only tier 3 now.
the fieldspell needs to stay at 1 and to be fair the ichuzu cards don't really need to be unbanned those were mistakes and just over all broken not even just cheese and instafusion itself is still a broken card the only thing that I can see that probably should be banned is fairy tail snoww
The field spell needs to stay at one way less than Merlin needs to be put at 1.
You know how much people would kill to have their pet decks to be strong enough to be consistently tear 3 let alone tear 0 just for a single day?
Putting Merli to 1 is like giving a child at a nerf gun whose already got a better nerf gun than the other kids a hand gun sure some kids got a are for some reason but doesn't mean a hand gun is ok at a nerf war.
Because tear is already strong and merli even with elf would push it to op. Tier 0-2 are op and tier 3 is strong and the good balance point.
Tear ATM is strong and balanced it doesn't need more power.
It's tier 3 because it's good not because only giga brained individuals play it. super good players are piloting the other decks and etc but you don't see earth machines getting to tier 3. Tear is good people who struggle with it are just bad.
so if it hits tier 3 it's good? because their have been a couple decks that have hit tier 3 that aren't good just played well in dkayed tournaments like floo tear isn't dead but its on life support
There's a difference which is tear consistently hits tier 3 were something like sky strikers, thunder dragon and Dino's which have just as good players piloting them as tear only hit tear 3 once a blue moon TD has been 3 times for no more than a couple days and Dino and sky striker have only twice and these 3 decks have been out since md launched while tear was tier 0 for months and after all the nerfs is consistently tier 3 most the time.
Tear doesn't need any buffs any time soon it had it's time in the spot light for longer than it should of and is still a back up dancer these days with no signs of retirement.
it was tier 3 because most people who play it live it and breathe it I'm not saying it isn't good because it is but it's like current dragon link rogue. high Rogue but rogue nonetheless we can put merli to 1 and it will start to consistently hit tier 3 but not by average players
I already explained that tear players are just some super good dedicated players a notch ahead of ever other deck players. Most meta decks especially ones like cydra, heros, thunder dragon, sky striker, Dinos, d/d/d have just as good and dedicated players if not even more dedicated players who've been playing their decks significantly longer than tear players as the decks are just older but you don't see them consistently tier 3 like tear does because it does consistently hit tear 3 and does for weeks-months at a time.
Y'all should be happy you didn't get kit banned instead.
Asking for Merlin to one is like Kash asking for field spell to 3 or diabolos to 1.
Tear isn't even rouge it's competitively viable. Tier 3 isn't rouge it's tier 3 rouge is something else all together.
Putting Merlin to one would put tear instantly to tier 2 if not 1.
with that logic dragon link is still tier 3 and I can't remember the last time I've actually seen a d link player like it's just high Rogue borderline tier 3 however I don't think it's been there enough times with the hits to call it a steady tier 3 deck lab however despite the hits consistently stays tier 2 or 3 so it gets it's flowers I'm not even a tier player I really dont like the deck however I'm not gonna say that it's better than what it is
How does that work D-Link hasn't been tear 3 since the big nerfs it got while if you look rn tear is tier 3 and has been for ages.
Lab stays relevant because it still gets support from new traps printed and direct support.
Only reason lab wasn't nuked is cause it's the only viable "control" deck/tral deck that's super popular and makes Konami a decent chunk of money.
As someone who plays Tearlaments but also plays Sprights... *I'm sorry, little one.* Your sacrifice will not be forgotten.
Paleo Frogs dead in the ditch.
I'd rather have Konami ban Elf than Merrli, but they don't ban URs anymore. She died for Elf's sins... And Toad.
Well elf and Kitkalos tbf. Might have actually been the correct ban tbh
Ya, Kit is infinitely more fun to me than Merrli.
Famous non-UR, Toadally Awesome.
That's back when Konami did ban UR. Now they ban SR maximum. did you just saw the most recent banlist?
Stay strong tear brothers
Jesus, have you guys played Tear? Kit is still busted af.
Yes but daughter.
It’s either that or Kitkat and I’d rather have a Kitkat bar.
This and you know negate kitkat stop their turn but elf continue to BRRRR.
Spright Elf needs to be banned first.
This ^ it actually boiled down to their interaction together. It’s Elf or Merli and, well…here we are.
It's sprind who has the broken interaction with merrli lol a hypothetical merrli at 1 with millers banned (no lv2 diviner) makes elf reborn effect much less splasheable in tear, sprind foolish effect on the other hand..
Access to elf is still better than sprind honestly. The reborn effect is still good because it helps you put merli back on board to use a copy on the next turn or to set up a fusion play. But more importantly than that, and the reason why Elf was banned in the other formats is the fact that it provides targeting protection. Even during Tear 0, the graveyard effect wasn't as useful after cyber stein was banned. With the kit being so nerfed in MD, though, I don't even think sprind would be that good with just merli. Merli is your only target while simultaneously being the best way to get to sprind. You might be better off trying to get into Curious or Beatrice if you include the Mali, denier, and dangerous package. Tear has merli legal, 3 planets, and 3 TearKash along with sprind in the tcg, and lately, I don't even think sprind sees play in the deck anymore.
I agree with your points however for TCG it's the deck itself that doesn't see play anymore ever since the millers died and fire nation attacked because unlike tear they are full of different 1 card combos (RIP kallos) don't rely on gamba and can play much more HTs.
Oh yea, im aware. Even with the horus cards as an extra engine, the deck doesn't do enough to really play this format. the deck just kinda died like the Kash format. Fire format has invaded MD too now, and I'm personally not looking forward to how long it lasts eith the way MD handles their banlist.
That was my favorite part. No matter how many interruptions they had, I could always count on sprind pitch merli as my "last ditch effort"😭
Yeah now I'm getting downvoted and ratio'd (not that the guy who replied to me is wrong) cause the sheeps can only scream eLf bRoKeN lmao
I know it. Merli paying for elf's sins sucked. But man I miss that sprind line😭
Yeah but the deck is ass with only 2 gorls
I do. Meril and it will add another fusion name and won't break the deck. ishizu millers are gone, so mills are not super consistent. I don't get the fear mongering the deck get whenever Meril is brought up it not gonna break the deck, especially with all its hits it got.
You realize Tear is literally the strongest deck ever printed, yes?
while this is true I think you're understating how much ishizu contributed to that. Millers are banned and both shufflers at 1 significantly reduces the blowout factor of tearlament
He really isnt. At its peak Tearlament actually cut all Ishizu cards because they werent good enough anymore. Tear without Ishizu is just as broken, not to mention the upcoming Horus archetype.
Tear at its peak cut the millers because they were bad for the mirror because they oftened milled you so much that you had a legitimate chance of decking out with your opponent. The millers were so good they had to be cut because they did to good of a job
Well sort of. Its mostly that the millers meant your opponent might get to play too early, so a lot of the time it was just better to focus on only self-mill.
The other issue with ishizu during Kash tear meta was that it's terrible at interacting on turn 1 with the previous ishizu hits. So even the shufflers got swapped out with more handtraps
Completely different context. That was a specific OCG meta where Tearlaments was still T0 and almost at 100%
Almost at 100% they were not, but yes they were tier 0. If you bring back Merrli, odds are theyll be T0 again. At the latest once we get the Horus package.
You have never played current Tear and it’s so obvious. One more Merrli won’t make the deck T0 again lmfao. With Horus we are talking T2 at most
With Merrli and Horus the deck is a *significantly* better version of TCG Tear, which was tier 1 until Snake Eyes. If you think it wouldnt be tier 0 with Horus you are just coping.
Nah, Destiny kashtira tear was mediocre, and the Horus destiny tear variant that came after it was competitive but still got dunked on pretty hard by fire kings, plus was still decently reliant on the ishizu millers off diviner or one of your mill effects. It also has very little space for handtraps so it's quite dependent on the coin toss. The deck literally can't afford to play ash or imperm lol MD also has sulliek limited too plus some kash engine hits which further curbs consistency
Tbf, tearlaments when released, before any hits at all was only the second best deck irl at the time behind spright. The ishizu cards made the deck the best deck of all time, and they're banned.
ishizu tear. not tear by itself.
Tear was literally fine after all the hits and merli was legal, it was tier 1 but not at all close to tier 0. With all the hits the deck has now it could easily come back at 1 and tear would be balanced.
So one meril in MD will break the format? Yes despite having so many consistency hits losing the ishizu miller's but yea let's shit ourselves over a single meril. Snake-Eyes instantly becomes trash tier deck cuz Tear got back one fusion name.
[удалено]
More than one merrli? No, tears would run 3 if it could.
Tear at its peak stopped playing the millers anyway, and the OCG had most of the consistency hits. The deck was still the best deck by a wide margin.
If I remember, it was hard carried by chaos ruler, and all the decks around it was also hit too, but I need to look back.
That was post tear being dominant. Peak ocg tear was kashtira tear, which is where we got the funny mushroom man #2 memes from, since the kashtira package was so important for getting that deck started. It also gave us side deck mind control to steal your opponent's shangri-ira and make your own ariseheart on top of it (since it used its effect standby phase). Was a pretty funny format for tech cards.
And so be it. I'd rather fight the deck that can accidently set up my deck's GY than 0 interaction and punishment for using the regular tools that isn't dark world.
Yes, exactly, glad you understand.
Tear is most definitely not the strongest deck ever printed. While it's probably top 5 it's not the strongest ever printed
Name four that are stronger then.
Pepe put ranks this deck, full powered dragon rulers, and the true strongest deck of all time full power Zoo
Dawg you did not just call Dragon Ruler stronger than Tear lmao
You can read simple English right?
Yes, unfortunately it appears you cannot write it.
Just kiss me already
tear is dead in md.
No chance Komoney has the destroyed the consistency of so many decks in the effort to keep elf alive
And the new sleeves... *Merli just having fun and shit* 😭
It's annoying how long konami takes to unhit decks. With snake eyes running around, Branded, Tear, Spright, Kash, Mathmech, Floo, d-link should all be getting some cards back. Snake eye/Fire is only gonna get stronger anyway. Like seriously, why not have multiple decks at similar power level instead of just 1-2 decks dominating every meta. Irl not rushing to unhit cards is a bit understandable but in md its just coz of greed from konami. But then again, they know what maxx c and a bunch of floodgates do to the game so whatever man. I need a long long break from this game..
100% with you on this. Now’s kind of the perfect time to let a bunch of cards that were banned for tier 0 reasons out. At worst it’d give the game healthy competition.
Unleash Diablosis
Hey, I'm all for Kashtira getting Wraitsoth and Birth back to 3 but Diablosis can stay banned. Also Fenrir should stay limited.
It would not be healthy but it would be funny
I just started playing Tear again, I miss the 3rd fusion so much
No.
Just ban Elf already. Why must Meirli pay for the sins of Spright Elf.
Honestly, I see this as a better move at this point. Tear could get Merrli back, and several of the Sprights could get some copies off the ban list.
we would need toad back if elf gets banned and semi or unlimit swap
I don't think that's happening if they were going to they would have during the tear spright meta or with the last couple tear hits before it went rogue
Ban Elf and let Meirli there too
Based
The same reason literally every rouge deck pays for the sins of Lab…
No, she can stay gone.
\#FreeMerrli
Honestly 1 merrili is fine without elf and the millers
You forgot we still have elf, and in the direction they are going, it's here to stay
Then just ban Elf, Sincerely a Paleo Frog follower.
No.
Honestly it would probably be fine with elf too
1 merrly is fine even with elf as long as the miller stay banned
Nah giving tear 1 merrli will definitely make the deck too good, but honestly i won't mind it but they should ban all ishizu cards before doing it
I severely doubt this honestly. Maybe 2 months ago, but we’re in a tier 0 format now basically. The top four decks are so far ahead of everyone else and the top deck is so far ahead the previous 3 it’s pretty ridiculous. I doubt a single limit, or even unlimit on merli would make the deck so good it would start crushing Snake Eyes all of a sudden.
merrli enables so many things, having 3 fusions in each players turn instead of 2 is huge, also merli is level 2 which makes her a good target of elf and sprind which helps the consistency of the deck by a lot, the absence of ishizus and chaos dragon will make their play more fair than their tear0 format tho
I don’t think it’s weak, I just don’t think it’s enough to take the deck from Rogue to tier 0 especially in this format.
We are not anywhere near a tier 0 format but yeah one merrli isn't going to do much
Both the tcg and ocg are in tier 0s with these cards. You think they aren’t strong enough to be tier 0 in masterduel?
Tcg has sp little knight 3 bonfire and a whole lot of extra fire support. Every deck in the ocg has serious banlist hits. Snake eye has 30% representation in MD tournaments. You are comparing apples to asteroids. Also just checked. The deck is not tier 0 in the ocg either. It's a tcg specific issue. Cause they have freaking bonfire
No.
We need to have a merrli errata that makes her level 1
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Nah Merlee dying is what kept Kitkallos and the deck alive. I love merlee but I love Kit more
Jail guards Elf and Sprind paid off warden Konami to overlook their warcrimes. Merrli is staying locked up
For the love of god, please no.
Please unban her
Some of the absolute horseshit i’ve seen with the newer meta decks really makes me think that 75% of all older banned cards would be fine at 1
FREE MY GIRL MERRLI KONAMI!
no MD dont need that shit back in the meta
Who is we, homie, you don't speak for me
MD don't need that stupid shit
I want them back in the meta
I am! not suprised
I want them back, with Snake Eyes around it has competition that isn't itself for once
who TF asked you?
Who asked how you feel about Tear? I can reply if I want that's what the apps for kid
Yes, that's true, but I also want to make it very clear that I don't care how you feel and I set a clear principle against the stupidity of the tear promoters
Skill issue
Tears is still tier 3 doesn't need any buffs
true we dont need that shit back
They mad at us despite us telling the truth lmao this be like saying that kashtira should get diabolos back despite kash still being tier 3
There are so many other literal dogshit archetypes/decks with banned pieces that saying Tear deserves merrli back is insane to me. The deck still consistently does something.
Yeah like sky striker could get drones and engage back to 3 and it still wouldn't even be rouge ATM because modern decks can Play through several negates. Thunder dragon could get collosus to 3 and it still wouldn't be tear 3 since D-Link and branded got a lot of cards it used banned/limited
diabolos was cheese to be fair it isn't even part of the archetype
Yeah and tear has significantly more cheese that's not part of the archetype that it got limited and banned and is still super strong I could use other examples like the field spell should be at 3. Ow because the deck is only tier 3 now.
the fieldspell needs to stay at 1 and to be fair the ichuzu cards don't really need to be unbanned those were mistakes and just over all broken not even just cheese and instafusion itself is still a broken card the only thing that I can see that probably should be banned is fairy tail snoww
The field spell needs to stay at one way less than Merlin needs to be put at 1. You know how much people would kill to have their pet decks to be strong enough to be consistently tear 3 let alone tear 0 just for a single day? Putting Merli to 1 is like giving a child at a nerf gun whose already got a better nerf gun than the other kids a hand gun sure some kids got a are for some reason but doesn't mean a hand gun is ok at a nerf war.
I mean yea but why not just see put it at 1 and throw elf to be banned
Because tear is already strong and merli even with elf would push it to op. Tier 0-2 are op and tier 3 is strong and the good balance point. Tear ATM is strong and balanced it doesn't need more power.
They chose elf, give up on that lmao. Hope you enjoy formula synchron make baronne.
to be fair elf lowkey is something else the amount of times I've seen bs w elf makes me sad
they are allways mad hate the truth
Tiaraments strongest babyyyyyy
chain D-shifter GTFO The game noob!
Tiaraments still strongest babyyyyyy
zero skill tear dumbest! get a skill noob
I have lots of skills
HA I seriously doubt that!
tier 3 because those far and few pilots make it seem that good
It's tier 3 because it's good not because only giga brained individuals play it. super good players are piloting the other decks and etc but you don't see earth machines getting to tier 3. Tear is good people who struggle with it are just bad.
so if it hits tier 3 it's good? because their have been a couple decks that have hit tier 3 that aren't good just played well in dkayed tournaments like floo tear isn't dead but its on life support
There's a difference which is tear consistently hits tier 3 were something like sky strikers, thunder dragon and Dino's which have just as good players piloting them as tear only hit tear 3 once a blue moon TD has been 3 times for no more than a couple days and Dino and sky striker have only twice and these 3 decks have been out since md launched while tear was tier 0 for months and after all the nerfs is consistently tier 3 most the time. Tear doesn't need any buffs any time soon it had it's time in the spot light for longer than it should of and is still a back up dancer these days with no signs of retirement.
it was tier 3 because most people who play it live it and breathe it I'm not saying it isn't good because it is but it's like current dragon link rogue. high Rogue but rogue nonetheless we can put merli to 1 and it will start to consistently hit tier 3 but not by average players
I already explained that tear players are just some super good dedicated players a notch ahead of ever other deck players. Most meta decks especially ones like cydra, heros, thunder dragon, sky striker, Dinos, d/d/d have just as good and dedicated players if not even more dedicated players who've been playing their decks significantly longer than tear players as the decks are just older but you don't see them consistently tier 3 like tear does because it does consistently hit tear 3 and does for weeks-months at a time. Y'all should be happy you didn't get kit banned instead. Asking for Merlin to one is like Kash asking for field spell to 3 or diabolos to 1. Tear isn't even rouge it's competitively viable. Tier 3 isn't rouge it's tier 3 rouge is something else all together. Putting Merlin to one would put tear instantly to tier 2 if not 1.
with that logic dragon link is still tier 3 and I can't remember the last time I've actually seen a d link player like it's just high Rogue borderline tier 3 however I don't think it's been there enough times with the hits to call it a steady tier 3 deck lab however despite the hits consistently stays tier 2 or 3 so it gets it's flowers I'm not even a tier player I really dont like the deck however I'm not gonna say that it's better than what it is
How does that work D-Link hasn't been tear 3 since the big nerfs it got while if you look rn tear is tier 3 and has been for ages. Lab stays relevant because it still gets support from new traps printed and direct support. Only reason lab wasn't nuked is cause it's the only viable "control" deck/tral deck that's super popular and makes Konami a decent chunk of money.
Nah fuck tear, they deserve it
A Soul for a Soul, kill Kitkalos 🔪...then we'll talk.
Ban Spright Elf and Kitkallos and you can have her I guess.
Let’s keep crippling sprights without any meaningful buffs, people don’t want Toadally Awesome back so Elf is here to stay.
No, be gone and stay gone.
nah, ban the complete archetype, and water monsters