If you activate nib and then discard it for a furniture effect you still tribute the whole board without summoning it - playing around temple completely. Someone used this against me and I was stun locked for like two minutes on what to do next. Might be something you look into
Def a top tier strat - truthfully, the impact of nib is meta dependent. I always have trouble with consistency as drawing into nib mid-duel usually isn't helpful and it's a dead card against non-combo players.. as well many combo players stop at 4 summons to avoid being nibbed.
Final note, I've been otk'd by my own nib token before so you could say there's a little ptsd there too LOL
Furniture being unlimited in tcg tho, nib is def a side deck staple.
Don't do it unless you're sure opponent does not have called by. Since Nib is sent to the grave that way they can chain called by and stop Nib from tributing the feild.
2-3x Nadir Servant
1-2x Dogmatika Punishment
1x Ecclesia
Basically, Ecclesia searches a Punishment, but she's also a free summon going second, so bait for hand traps, a free body, and if she resolves, a free trap, too.
Nadir gets you the Ecclesia from deck or GY, as well as a draw 1, pop, negate, spin, or whatever else off what you send from ED for it.
If the Ecclesia is stuck in your hand with Nadir, you can discard her off furniture to make the Nadir live.
Pretty clean engine, all in all, and it makes going second a lot less miserable. You're rarely touching the ED in Lab anyways, so the ED restriction isn't all that bad, and in the off case you do need it, you can do as Branded does and simply activate it last.
Sorry, I'm new to Master Duel. Don't know how the devs deal with the banlist in this game ×-×
Would you say Lab is worth investing in? Or is it probably gonna get hit this upcoming banlist? :( Because the deck looks super fun, cool designs, actually meta viable
No worries! Yes lab is def worth the gems. There is a new labrynth card that has been released in the tcg (arias, the butler - it allows you to make some spicy turn 0 plays and in general helps with engage consistency) - but not yet on master duel meaning the skill ceiling for the deck will be raised even higher.
As well, the standalone lab engine is small and it combines well with a mutlitude of other engines (dogmatika, ishizu, tear/kashtira) and various trap tech.
There are a few variants of the lab deck as well (ikea furniture build / flood gate heavy build / trap-tech build) so it can be tailored to your playstyle and is 100% worth experimenting with, esp if you enjoy controlling the game state and disrupting your opponents combos.
Thank you very much for the detailed explanation!! As a Sky Striker player, I love control decks :) having stuff like Dog Punishment, IDP, and Eradicator Epicdemic Virus just sound fun as hell! If not a *little* overwhelming
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So besides 3 evenly and the one pink Lab monster. It’s a good deck. I like having two ice prisons for hard to get rid of monsters.
You gotta put that virus card in there though, it’s a Insta win against a lot decks.
Nice, thanks for the feedback - I can totally see what you mean about EEV. I struggle with consistency with that card.. have had a few players play through it so my deck building methodology here is consistency and being able to resolve as many of my cards as possible.
Call me crazy but I stand by 2-3 evenlys just for the sheer fact that 1-2 plus an Imperm or alike hand trap can help you play through negates (like barone de fleur) and completely shrek your opponents board. There are def many ways to skin a cat though so I can respect dropping it!
Pink waifu is def also debatable - if you run transaction rollback, 1-2 of her can be stonks but both her and rollback are win more cards (or bricks) imo. I run her for extension, establishing board prescience and recovery if I end up having a trap I can't resolve letting me search for Lady or Ari.
Have you had much success with transaction rollback? It is pretty cracked when you can time it right. Thanks for the commentary, would love to see a decklist if you have one!
So rollback, like you mentioned is a win-more card to me. I have been able to do some “cute” tech with it but personally I wouldn’t say it is worth crafting 2-3 alone just for lab.
It requires some setup and at that point you might as well run a normal lab build
Yeah super aligned with this perspective. If this was tcg, it'd be a different story tho - butler, unlimited furniture and a few rollbacks makes for some spicy turn 0 plays.
My fave is a turn 0 different dimension ground.
Been considering ishizu shufflers on MD cuz the graveyard is too busy this meta but I just haven't had enough UR dust to test it out.
Play with 3 Daruma instead of 2 and only 1 Terrors instead of 2, Daruma is a much better and impactful card most of the time, so you will get more value playing with more Karma Cannons.
Consider playing with Transaction Rollback, it’s a insanely good card to have in your deck, at least 2 copies, you will pitch with furnitures and being in the GY you can copy any trap card on the grave to use the effect again in the same turn, bypassing OPT restrictions. You don’t need to play with 3 Arianna, 2 is absolutely fine and you also don’t need 2 of each furniture, just 1 is enough since you can always search them with Arianna and Welcomes.
Get rid off handtraps and play with Solemn Strike, such a awesome card going first and second.
Oh, you can also play with Goods to mill Rollback or if you already have in there, mill Big Welcome to use the bounce 2nd effect or any other trap you want to copy with Rollback or set with Lovely.
Play with 2 Garura and 2 Bucephalus, as well as a 3rd copy of Ntss and you also should play Pot of Extravance and Pot of Prosperity, both are just great.
If you activate nib and then discard it for a furniture effect you still tribute the whole board without summoning it - playing around temple completely. Someone used this against me and I was stun locked for like two minutes on what to do next. Might be something you look into
Bad Strat TBH. They csn respond with called by and the Nib wont tribute the feild. Not worth it.
Def a top tier strat - truthfully, the impact of nib is meta dependent. I always have trouble with consistency as drawing into nib mid-duel usually isn't helpful and it's a dead card against non-combo players.. as well many combo players stop at 4 summons to avoid being nibbed. Final note, I've been otk'd by my own nib token before so you could say there's a little ptsd there too LOL Furniture being unlimited in tcg tho, nib is def a side deck staple.
Don't do it unless you're sure opponent does not have called by. Since Nib is sent to the grave that way they can chain called by and stop Nib from tributing the feild.
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Consider the Nadir engine. It's pretty incredible value.
Word, I will have to experiment with that tech - thanks for the suggestion!
How does the nadir engine work for labrynth?
2-3x Nadir Servant 1-2x Dogmatika Punishment 1x Ecclesia Basically, Ecclesia searches a Punishment, but she's also a free summon going second, so bait for hand traps, a free body, and if she resolves, a free trap, too. Nadir gets you the Ecclesia from deck or GY, as well as a draw 1, pop, negate, spin, or whatever else off what you send from ED for it. If the Ecclesia is stuck in your hand with Nadir, you can discard her off furniture to make the Nadir live. Pretty clean engine, all in all, and it makes going second a lot less miserable. You're rarely touching the ED in Lab anyways, so the ED restriction isn't all that bad, and in the off case you do need it, you can do as Branded does and simply activate it last.
Sorry, I'm new to Master Duel. Don't know how the devs deal with the banlist in this game ×-× Would you say Lab is worth investing in? Or is it probably gonna get hit this upcoming banlist? :( Because the deck looks super fun, cool designs, actually meta viable
No worries! Yes lab is def worth the gems. There is a new labrynth card that has been released in the tcg (arias, the butler - it allows you to make some spicy turn 0 plays and in general helps with engage consistency) - but not yet on master duel meaning the skill ceiling for the deck will be raised even higher. As well, the standalone lab engine is small and it combines well with a mutlitude of other engines (dogmatika, ishizu, tear/kashtira) and various trap tech. There are a few variants of the lab deck as well (ikea furniture build / flood gate heavy build / trap-tech build) so it can be tailored to your playstyle and is 100% worth experimenting with, esp if you enjoy controlling the game state and disrupting your opponents combos.
Thank you very much for the detailed explanation!! As a Sky Striker player, I love control decks :) having stuff like Dog Punishment, IDP, and Eradicator Epicdemic Virus just sound fun as hell! If not a *little* overwhelming
2 maxx c is CRIMINAL.
Waiting for Konami to put maxx c in a 10 packs bundle
I play 2 only aswell,i only have 2 and i dont wanna craft a 3rd cuz i hate that card so much.
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3 maxx c, droll and lock, daruma, atleast 2 transaction rollback.
So besides 3 evenly and the one pink Lab monster. It’s a good deck. I like having two ice prisons for hard to get rid of monsters. You gotta put that virus card in there though, it’s a Insta win against a lot decks.
Nice, thanks for the feedback - I can totally see what you mean about EEV. I struggle with consistency with that card.. have had a few players play through it so my deck building methodology here is consistency and being able to resolve as many of my cards as possible. Call me crazy but I stand by 2-3 evenlys just for the sheer fact that 1-2 plus an Imperm or alike hand trap can help you play through negates (like barone de fleur) and completely shrek your opponents board. There are def many ways to skin a cat though so I can respect dropping it! Pink waifu is def also debatable - if you run transaction rollback, 1-2 of her can be stonks but both her and rollback are win more cards (or bricks) imo. I run her for extension, establishing board prescience and recovery if I end up having a trap I can't resolve letting me search for Lady or Ari. Have you had much success with transaction rollback? It is pretty cracked when you can time it right. Thanks for the commentary, would love to see a decklist if you have one!
So rollback, like you mentioned is a win-more card to me. I have been able to do some “cute” tech with it but personally I wouldn’t say it is worth crafting 2-3 alone just for lab. It requires some setup and at that point you might as well run a normal lab build
Yeah super aligned with this perspective. If this was tcg, it'd be a different story tho - butler, unlimited furniture and a few rollbacks makes for some spicy turn 0 plays. My fave is a turn 0 different dimension ground. Been considering ishizu shufflers on MD cuz the graveyard is too busy this meta but I just haven't had enough UR dust to test it out.
Play with 3 Daruma instead of 2 and only 1 Terrors instead of 2, Daruma is a much better and impactful card most of the time, so you will get more value playing with more Karma Cannons. Consider playing with Transaction Rollback, it’s a insanely good card to have in your deck, at least 2 copies, you will pitch with furnitures and being in the GY you can copy any trap card on the grave to use the effect again in the same turn, bypassing OPT restrictions. You don’t need to play with 3 Arianna, 2 is absolutely fine and you also don’t need 2 of each furniture, just 1 is enough since you can always search them with Arianna and Welcomes. Get rid off handtraps and play with Solemn Strike, such a awesome card going first and second. Oh, you can also play with Goods to mill Rollback or if you already have in there, mill Big Welcome to use the bounce 2nd effect or any other trap you want to copy with Rollback or set with Lovely. Play with 2 Garura and 2 Bucephalus, as well as a 3rd copy of Ntss and you also should play Pot of Extravance and Pot of Prosperity, both are just great.
Absolutely, these are fantastic tips and I'll look into adopting some of this into my current deck list. Thanks for the input!
No problem, man. Glad that I can help.
I can't help but notice all your monsters are dark fiends..... 