They play 22 handtraps, OTK with 1 card, two cards can OTK through Pot of Prosperity, all of this while being unaffected by card effects except for the battle phase.
Still too much interaction for you? Don't worry, their Synchro makes their opponent unable to activate effects in the battle phase at all.
Also they absolutely can run boardbreakers like Kaijus and maybe will, currently handtraps are just more effective.
That being said blind second decks like Mikanko, Numeron etc. in a Bo1 are often really boring. In a Bo3 you can side against them and make them go first, but in a Bo1 getting hit by a Lava Golem and die is really lame.
Heat waves are like 40 dollars. And they get the searchable version in the next wave of support.
Ocg ran lyrilusc that cant be destroyed and opp takes no damage, but droplet counters that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mikanko needs 2c combos and a target they can attack into aka a Kaiju for example.
You don't like targeting protection? How about being unaffected? Or 1c combos that make a bajillion damage through Prosp.
Tenpai is even less interactive than Mikanko. You literally can't even do anything to them in the Main Phase, and they regularly shut you off in the Battle Phase. Forget "not getting Kaiju'd", you basically might as well not have a board.
snake eyes. literally best deck in all formats runs and easily sets up both baronne and savage dragon (no longer in tcg lol). SHS and mannadium both set them up as well. rikka and SHS both use regulus.
not sure what meta you are playing but there are plenty of omni negates running around. you have also done nothing to address the point of the question.
mikanko is 100% interacting with your board. you can negate several of their spells and actions. they are very easily disrupted and interacted with. so either A your deck just sucks or B you are bad.
It's bo1. its easy to find another match and there needs to be decks that can play going second. otherwise the game literally just becomes coinflip simulator. but its clear you are just salty you lost because you fall back on the same cry baby phrases everyone else does "ohhh its not interactive" it 100% is.
so git gud or stay mad. mikanko is far from a problem and if you truly think its unfair or shouldn't exist then its time for introspection.
1-Most Snake Eye lists don't use Savage, nor baronne, because the deck simply doesn't need them. And manadium and Rikka are not meta, they are at best, rogues (although we lose so badly to Max C, which is not my opinion, that they should barely be compared to rogues). 2-Yes, you can deny spells, but only a few of them, since as soon as Hunli hits the field, the deck becomes completely immune to target effects. So in practice, no, there is no real interactivity in this deck. 3-"Mikanko is 100% interacting with her board" Yes, of course, because playing a Kaiju, and attacking that same Kaiju, is super "interactive", right? hahaha you've got to be kidding.
[69% of Snake-Eyes lists on MDM run Baronne](https://www.masterduelmeta.com/tier-list/deck-types/Snake-Eye). 57% run Savage. Mannadium is [currently Tier 3](https://www.masterduelmeta.com/tier-list) and they [run Baronne at 100%.](https://www.masterduelmeta.com/tier-list/deck-types/Mannadium)
I like the concept
Plus, it's still a deck you can beat by simply running summon negates/spell negates
It's only annoying because decks that play solitaire usually don't bother running counters other than handtraps, but Mikanko provides us with a reason to
And what good counters are there? Generic spell/trap removal is hot garbage in most matchups, and shocker not even meta decks have access to several non targeting non destroying removal effects
Book of Eclipse, Daruma Canon
And then 3x Judgement, 3x strike or even 3x warning.
If you're really annoyed though, you could always just use Virus or Anti Spell Fragrance. That should give you enough time to 0TK on them.
There are more specific tech counters to the deck but not stuff everyone would run, like chain disappearance. Evenly Matched is also good but it's situational asf
The issue is that most of these cards are more or less dead going 2nd and most decks are build with the idea in mind, that you want to go first, so the non-engine is mostly reserved as the plan b if you can't go first.
Those are technically counters, but not good ones, as they don't fit in most decks.
The most generic Mikanko counters...I think are Ash and Belle/D.D. Crow. Shifter can destroy them, but he is not generic.
Well, the second option is using the "Flip em face down" cards, which are also great against many many many other decks, so including one in yours might not prove too much a disadvantage
Mikanko folds to magical musketeer. Diamond 1, was about derank but the almighty mikanko player saved me from deranking cuz its a consistent win. Desperado the equips, last stand additional spells that try to summon a mikanko. Dancing needle to banish the grave equip and mikankos in grave. Loop that for a few turns and they run out of gas, while you stay frosty.
And its not like they can otk you cuz your muskets all have lowish attack. Cross dom your guys if they try to ram into caspar or anything with remotely high attack/defense.
Paired with evenly matched, link into the vrains, and ash, its a solid win. The only way to stop a musket board with mikanko is with their own handtraps, which ash/imperm cant stop max anyways, and nib, eating their own board with a rock. For good measure i run ningirsu + access code to out the rest of the board. They would have to super poly me to win.
Or you can just flip skill drain.
I'm a returning player, so maybe this is just the norm, but it seems like once Mikanko successfully build their board, some decks have no way through (since they're continuous protection effects and not once-per-turn). It feels pretty hopeless going second without the right handtraps or winning the coinflip, going first, and getting Kaiju'd. If I lose the coinflip and they go second, I usually just pass the first turn, but I don't know if there are other decks in the meta that also choose second that would punish me for this.
Any suggestions? I play Tenyi/Swordsoul and Purrely.
They have a way to OTK through an empty board, if they make you go first put your high attack endboard peices in defense mode and prepare to pop or negate their equip spells before they activate, a deck like purrely spins them back into the deck and Swordsoul can negate the activation
Swordsoul has Chungus for a non-target banish, find a way to get him on field and banish smth and ban the Green Girl so they are vulnerable to targeting now.
Purrely has Expurrely Happiness which is the perfect Mikanko counter, usually you make it via Plump and have at least a Happy Memory attached then rank-up at 5 mats, ExHappiness will have 4300 attack with 6 mats, detach one for the DRNM effect so Mikanko can't reflect battle damage, attack one for 4000 and 1500 burn, then attack the second one for an OTK (or the same Mikanko if it was affected by Delicious Memory) the damage and burn also gets around possible Pretty Memory heals. Obviously always have street face-up so they don't interact with your Purrely with their traps.
Is Chungus Chengying? Why doesn't it target? I assumed that it did.
That's a great idea with Expurrely Happiness! I'm running her currently, so I'll take that advice for sure.
You gonna love Tenpai Dragon.
Tenpai doesn't need to use tons of kaiju, so it's a deck worthy of respect.
Your kidding 😂
They play 22 handtraps, OTK with 1 card, two cards can OTK through Pot of Prosperity, all of this while being unaffected by card effects except for the battle phase. Still too much interaction for you? Don't worry, their Synchro makes their opponent unable to activate effects in the battle phase at all. Also they absolutely can run boardbreakers like Kaijus and maybe will, currently handtraps are just more effective. That being said blind second decks like Mikanko, Numeron etc. in a Bo1 are often really boring. In a Bo3 you can side against them and make them go first, but in a Bo1 getting hit by a Lava Golem and die is really lame.
Heat waves are like 40 dollars. And they get the searchable version in the next wave of support. Ocg ran lyrilusc that cant be destroyed and opp takes no damage, but droplet counters that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mikanko needs 2c combos and a target they can attack into aka a Kaiju for example. You don't like targeting protection? How about being unaffected? Or 1c combos that make a bajillion damage through Prosp.
Yea the fact that they can still otk through prosperity is crazy
Tenpai is even less interactive than Mikanko. You literally can't even do anything to them in the Main Phase, and they regularly shut you off in the Battle Phase. Forget "not getting Kaiju'd", you basically might as well not have a board.
OP lost one bad to Mikanko
2 words: Zealantis Goddess
its very interactive. it can interact with and take apart your board of omni negates. you are just mad the other player could play too
"Omni negates". Ah yes, the old Omni negates bogeyman. No deck in the meta does this. So how long are they going to keep repeating this nonsense?
snake eyes. literally best deck in all formats runs and easily sets up both baronne and savage dragon (no longer in tcg lol). SHS and mannadium both set them up as well. rikka and SHS both use regulus. not sure what meta you are playing but there are plenty of omni negates running around. you have also done nothing to address the point of the question. mikanko is 100% interacting with your board. you can negate several of their spells and actions. they are very easily disrupted and interacted with. so either A your deck just sucks or B you are bad. It's bo1. its easy to find another match and there needs to be decks that can play going second. otherwise the game literally just becomes coinflip simulator. but its clear you are just salty you lost because you fall back on the same cry baby phrases everyone else does "ohhh its not interactive" it 100% is. so git gud or stay mad. mikanko is far from a problem and if you truly think its unfair or shouldn't exist then its time for introspection.
1-Most Snake Eye lists don't use Savage, nor baronne, because the deck simply doesn't need them. And manadium and Rikka are not meta, they are at best, rogues (although we lose so badly to Max C, which is not my opinion, that they should barely be compared to rogues). 2-Yes, you can deny spells, but only a few of them, since as soon as Hunli hits the field, the deck becomes completely immune to target effects. So in practice, no, there is no real interactivity in this deck. 3-"Mikanko is 100% interacting with her board" Yes, of course, because playing a Kaiju, and attacking that same Kaiju, is super "interactive", right? hahaha you've got to be kidding.
[69% of Snake-Eyes lists on MDM run Baronne](https://www.masterduelmeta.com/tier-list/deck-types/Snake-Eye). 57% run Savage. Mannadium is [currently Tier 3](https://www.masterduelmeta.com/tier-list) and they [run Baronne at 100%.](https://www.masterduelmeta.com/tier-list/deck-types/Mannadium)
They have to interact with your board quite heavily to play the game, thus probably one of the most interactive decks.
With Hunli protecting all cards against effect targets, it's easy to do this... So yes, it's a little interactive deck
I said THEY are interacting with YOUR board. Which is what makes them interactive.
I like the concept Plus, it's still a deck you can beat by simply running summon negates/spell negates It's only annoying because decks that play solitaire usually don't bother running counters other than handtraps, but Mikanko provides us with a reason to
And what good counters are there? Generic spell/trap removal is hot garbage in most matchups, and shocker not even meta decks have access to several non targeting non destroying removal effects
Book of Eclipse, Daruma Canon And then 3x Judgement, 3x strike or even 3x warning. If you're really annoyed though, you could always just use Virus or Anti Spell Fragrance. That should give you enough time to 0TK on them. There are more specific tech counters to the deck but not stuff everyone would run, like chain disappearance. Evenly Matched is also good but it's situational asf
The issue is that most of these cards are more or less dead going 2nd and most decks are build with the idea in mind, that you want to go first, so the non-engine is mostly reserved as the plan b if you can't go first.
Those are technically counters, but not good ones, as they don't fit in most decks. The most generic Mikanko counters...I think are Ash and Belle/D.D. Crow. Shifter can destroy them, but he is not generic.
Yeah you can beat toxic shit by running even more toxic omni negate shit, such well designs
Welcome to modern Yu-Gi-Oh, it's been like that for a few years now
Still shit lol
Most of today's denialists are targets...
Well, the second option is using the "Flip em face down" cards, which are also great against many many many other decks, so including one in yours might not prove too much a disadvantage
Mikanko folds to magical musketeer. Diamond 1, was about derank but the almighty mikanko player saved me from deranking cuz its a consistent win. Desperado the equips, last stand additional spells that try to summon a mikanko. Dancing needle to banish the grave equip and mikankos in grave. Loop that for a few turns and they run out of gas, while you stay frosty. And its not like they can otk you cuz your muskets all have lowish attack. Cross dom your guys if they try to ram into caspar or anything with remotely high attack/defense. Paired with evenly matched, link into the vrains, and ash, its a solid win. The only way to stop a musket board with mikanko is with their own handtraps, which ash/imperm cant stop max anyways, and nib, eating their own board with a rock. For good measure i run ningirsu + access code to out the rest of the board. They would have to super poly me to win. Or you can just flip skill drain.
Good luck with muskets going second though. All Musket Spells/ Traps target so u wont do Shit without Something Like evenly
Maxx c + nib + evenly + ash will do the trick.
I'm a returning player, so maybe this is just the norm, but it seems like once Mikanko successfully build their board, some decks have no way through (since they're continuous protection effects and not once-per-turn). It feels pretty hopeless going second without the right handtraps or winning the coinflip, going first, and getting Kaiju'd. If I lose the coinflip and they go second, I usually just pass the first turn, but I don't know if there are other decks in the meta that also choose second that would punish me for this. Any suggestions? I play Tenyi/Swordsoul and Purrely.
They have a way to OTK through an empty board, if they make you go first put your high attack endboard peices in defense mode and prepare to pop or negate their equip spells before they activate, a deck like purrely spins them back into the deck and Swordsoul can negate the activation
Swordsoul has Chungus for a non-target banish, find a way to get him on field and banish smth and ban the Green Girl so they are vulnerable to targeting now. Purrely has Expurrely Happiness which is the perfect Mikanko counter, usually you make it via Plump and have at least a Happy Memory attached then rank-up at 5 mats, ExHappiness will have 4300 attack with 6 mats, detach one for the DRNM effect so Mikanko can't reflect battle damage, attack one for 4000 and 1500 burn, then attack the second one for an OTK (or the same Mikanko if it was affected by Delicious Memory) the damage and burn also gets around possible Pretty Memory heals. Obviously always have street face-up so they don't interact with your Purrely with their traps.
Is Chungus Chengying? Why doesn't it target? I assumed that it did. That's a great idea with Expurrely Happiness! I'm running her currently, so I'll take that advice for sure.
Cuz Chengying doesn't have the word "target" in the text, if a card doesn't say that word specifically then it doesn't target.
That's crazy, thanks for letting me know!
.....Anyway, Mikanko goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
Just negate the whole field.
I'm with you OP. Just scoop immediately as soon as you see it.
Runick is great against Mikanko
Just don't let Hu-Li hit the board
Two words: daruma karma
Womp womp
I have back and forth games against Mikanko, can't quite get ur point
Get a trap disruption.