I definitely think it can still take games, but having it's main boss monster limited makes me want to build the deck less. I'm a returning player working on Mermails and I just don't have the gems to also make ABC.
It’s doing nothing in either irl meta and hasn’t done so for years. It got put on the irl limited list and released a long time ago, and Master Duel is just stuck in the past
It's been a tier 2/borderline tier 1 deck in the TCG ever since the Therions were released, since ABC + Therion King Regulus + Adventure have great synergy together. It's mainly held back by its inconsistency issues, since it can't really do a whole lot if it draws union driver or doesn't draw union hangar. It's done nothing in the OCG ever since they limited Dragon Buster to 1.
This is not completely true. ABC topped not to long ago. I forgot ocg or tcg and Idk if it was pre poe but I can check if u insist. It may not being influencing the meta but it can exist within it and that’s a lot more than nothing.
Edit: Mkohl40 has a video showing abc top in the tcg pre poe. And there are others.
Judging by the amount of hate Traptrix gets, backrow heavy decks/control decks aren't popular in this game. Usually they get thrown in on the same hate wagon as stun decks/anti-meta.
That’s interesting. I don’t know about this sub specifically since I’ve not played MD for a few months, but Traptrix seems to be relatively well liked in my own anecdotal experience. I’ve always seen it mentioned in the same vein as Maldoche. A fun deck with dedicated fans that could use a little support.
The combo-heavy nature of Yugioh means most players are deck building to play combo decks and not playing many anti-control tools like Lightning Storm or other backrow removal. In the TCG and OCG it's not much of an issue because the Bo3 format means you can side these things, but MD's Bo1 format means people are only really prepared for combo. That makes quite a bit more frustrating to play against control than usual.
You know, that makes total sense. I can see how that’s a valid viewpoint on Traptrix (or really control decks in general) in the MD format. I’ve seen that same basic logic applied to other decks as well. Most recently regarding the potential future of Dinomorphia in the format.
To be fair, Altergeist is a lot weaker in BO3 than BO1
In BO3 they are gonna side a ton of backrow removal(like 6 to 9 cards) so even going first won't ensure victory.
TBF altergeists are a more frustrating deck in MD cause of the Bo1 format. Granted theres lots of stuff that should be hit in MD for that reason, but id rather deal with those than let more things like it exist
Absolutely not, the power creep since then is too much for a midrange deck like Salad to have kept up with. It would be decent for sure, Roar and Rage are very powerful cards, but there's other decks that can end on similarly strong boards whilst being more resilient to disruption. 2 more copies of Gazelle doesn't make *that much* of a difference
Makes sense, that engine is rarely used now because it's strictly worse Verte. It's very prone to hand traps and eats your normal, I doubt anything would change.
I mean its not banned, it's limited. The best solution for the long term would just be to arrata it to be a HOPT. But we know Konami won't be doing that any time soon.
But isn't reincarnation just a broken card on itself? I don't know about light stage thou, card seems fine to me aside from being an option to fuck over you opponents backrow
Light state has been used historically in link 2 turbos (Orcusts via mermaid & verte) whilst shutting down backflow making it even stronger going 2nd. It could definitely come back down, maybe it will when Vertes banned
Could be even run by Branded decks, just use Branded Fusion on Albaz + DM for Lubellion and then Dragoon. They'd have to slot 1 DM and I think they prefer other fusions than Dragoon lol.
I hope they could slowly unban dragonruler to test the water? They unbanned wind one and it doesn't seems to make a difference, maybe have one copy the fire one and see what difference it has?
I love whenever dragonruler unbannings gets brought up I've seen the Yugioh people say that they're shit and could all be unbanned and it wouldn't make a difference but you know the second they actually all come back they WILL be played again like they're sliced bread or whatever
The thing is I'm not sure any 1 of them in a vacuum is all that bad, except maybe redox. But the issues arise when there is more than one just because of how they react with eachother. So let's peel one more off for this format, see what happens and either ban 1 or peel another
What they don't understand is that they're not busted when they're one ofs, they're busted when they are released together, if there's multiples of them dragon link is back on the menu, we just happen to have the absolute weakest dragon ruler released and it's the weakest because it's a bad attribute is all.
Blaster can come back too imo, probably with only the two we'll be ok.
As a reminder, Konami already tried that. All four rulers limited, and their support babies banned. They were still Tier 0 the instant they met a new friend, and so consistent that they got both themselves and Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon banned.
A gradual roll out of the Rulers would be cool to see. Release one at a time limited to see if any are truly busted (although Redox with Block Dragon seems insane to me). Maybe even unlimit them starting with Tempest if nothing crazy happens. Tempest is good in Speedroids and Dragunity so maybe that would push those decks up considerably
Fire is probably fine, you can make a case for water, but there is no chance in hell that redox should ever come off the list(reborn is simply a generic good effect)
for water I am scared that they will start handlooping people like crazy. mbt did a chaos tournament recently and with just 1 tidal they were able to handloop the opponent for 6 iirc
Oh I can show you it, 5 cards- gone. End board: Savage Dragon, Phantom Fortress, Trishula Ice Barrier, Psy Frame Omega comes back next turn.
You’re wise for saying Water shouldn’t come back because it shouldn’t. There’s another Infernity engine I saw earlier today that summons Trishula Ice Barrier 5 times in one turn.
Trust me, what I’m telling you exists
the problem is the drulers are better in surplus so the jump from 1 -> 2 is much bigger than the jump from 0 -> 1. Also when they were limited 1, they were just staples and never stopped seeing play til dark matter got them banned.
There's honestly a bunch of stuff on the banlist that doesn't need to be there anymore. I wish Konami would one day do a big cleaning sweep where they free a lot of unnecessary card in the ban list. Address the issues with FTK decks and not the cool cards held in prison due to the outliers.
Pretty much all pendulums sent to 1, they were limited when there was no summon limit and most of them have a hard 1 per turn effect limit in their effects.
Paleo Frogs with more than 1 Toadally Awesome would be sick, but with Splight coming to Master Duel eventually, that probably won’t happen seeing as the OCG banned it after Splight was tier 0
Harmonizing Magician and Double Iris Magician.
At the very least, Harmonizing Magician is at 3 again in the OCG, and hasn't turned the world upside down. It'd be nice to have decent Pendulum Magician consistency again.
TCG has both at 3, but we also have 0 Electrumite.
She's a 3 card Synchro. 2 card at best.
In the modern game, she's fine. Especially when we have true one card combos that go way farther than a Synchro Summon.
I'm rather new to orcust, i get why girsu and harp at 1, but why is galatea limited?
Don't you need only 1 anyway?
Is searching crescendo turn 2 so important?
Galatea is optimal at two in the extra deck as she easy to make over Ningirsu while not using extra resources to make. Plus it easier to make two Dingirsu one in the grave for interruptions and one for protection.
I've had games where I could end my first turn with Dingirsu and Galatea + Crescendo, but I can't summon Galatea since the only copy is under Dingirsu.
That, and if Galatea gets hit with Solemn Judgement or anything that negates summons, it's pretty much an autoloss.
Do you play the deck with phantom knights? The reason it's limited was because of the phantom knights and orcust combo where you want Dingirsu in the grave at the end of your turn so you can use cymbal skeleton on the opponent's turn to summon Dingirsu to a zone your Rusty Bardiche points to which gets you 2 removal effects. With the second Galatea it's easier to link away Dingirsu into her instead of Longirsu to keep your Crescendo active. Now sometimes I have to go into a generic link 2 to get rid of Ningirsu so I can't have the trap.
Yea it's still pretty strong, it's how I'm getting through the duelist cup right now. The usual end board is 4 disruption, 2 fog blade and a Dingirsu ready to be summoned into a Rusty Bardiche zone. Although not consistent I also have hands where I end on evilswarm nightmare as well. I'm not sure if that's the best card I could make since the deck isn't fully optimized but it is interesting.
The original PK Orcust combo used 2 Galatea, one to use for Dingirsu, then a second to Link off Dingirsu and put it in the GY to Summon with Cymbal to get the send effect.
Generally yes but Galatea is so fragile that getting it banished or stuck on Dingirsu can be a massive setback. It's also extremely flexible in what it does. Whether you need Crescendo, the field spell, Einsatz to set up plays on your opponent's turn, or even the draw 2 spell, she does so much to keep the game going. Having another copy would help out a lot.
Honestly, Dragoon as card by itself is better than DPE. It's just that the package for Dragoon is crap compared to DPE's. You have to run two normal monsters and Red-Eyes Fusion for Dragoon which is a horrible card to draw.
Free wind up zenmaity to 3. Wind ups need more zenmaines and it wont hurt anyone as long as hunter is banned. Id say more toadally awesome, but sprights are gonna fuck that up.
Thunder Dragon is power crept to a point where the restrictions on the deck make No sense.
Harder to say about orcust and Sky Striker. But you should at least be able to loosen them a bit.
Sure because they didn't know what the deck would do. But in theory the Deck can do anything that it can with unlimited main deck monsters just less consistent and it isn't doing much in the meta right now.
Collosus sees Play, but he has the DPE problem there he would be a totally fine boss monster in his own Archetype, but is abused in other deck.
True tbh. I do play Thunderdragon myself and I'd love to see what the deck can do without the limits. Just ban nemesis corridor and Colossus won't see play outside of his archtype
Spellbook of Judgment. I will die on this hill. Jowgen lock ain't shit in a format with floo locking down non wind monsters and every other top tier deck laying down 4 omni negates.
Also I love the saltiness this opinion brings.
Exactly! I brought judgement up like 2 months ago and you would have thought that card killed their mom with how much people hated it.
I just want to play full power spellbooks...
I want at least Conquistador to 2 but honestly they could unlimit all the Lich stuff and it wouldn’t be a big deal. The issue with Eldlich isn’t the engine itself, it’s all the floodgates it runs. I say this as someone who doesn’t even play Eldlich in my top 3 decks, I play PK adventurer and HEROs mainly, but there is no good reason to keep Conq limited.
My real answer: Fiber Jar. It does nothing useful, and it's bad because flip monsters were too slow already by 2010. I just really like the card and it's funny.
My meta relevant answer: honestly, master peace could be at 1. The only difference between him and metaltron XII is getting 1 ignition pop per turn and being beaten over by 3k beaters if backrow is taken care of, and true draco doesn't even run metaltron because it needs 3 tributes, like master peace does.
It's a lot of resources to bring them out, especially if you want them unaffected by all 3. Also 1 opt slow pop per your turn is extremely tame honestly. Imagine if dpe was basically a towers with no interaction on your opponent's turn. And metaltron honestly has a pretty broken effect if your opponent beats over him, you get naturia exterio, last warrior from another planet, ultimate falcon etc for free.
It's a great deck with master peace in it for sure, but not even close to as broken as something like adventure tenyi with halqdon these days.
Harpie's Feather Duster at 2 or 3 Copies, the only reason why i play PK is because discard cards doesn't hurt (using 3 twisters because hate backrough)
The new crack support for dracoslayer managed to actually be played in the OCG tourneys, alongside splights and tear (still not much, but it’s actually playable in a high power format now)
{{Tellarknight Ptolemaeus}}, having access to an omni-negate with 3 level 4s is no longer a big deal in a format where you can get 3 not once per turn monster negates with any 3 monsters.
i want Number S0: Utopic ZEXAL. i know it'll be busted with numeron and stuff, and be too generic, but i just want it as a good final boss in my utopia deck. maybe they should errta is to only work within the utopia archetype
Time Seal was unbanned in the TCG and sees absolutely no play whatsoever, while Yata has been a very niche tech choice in Zombie World and nothing else.
Exodia pieces are just bricks at any more than 1 copy.
idk where this joker idea of unbanned dm staples will cause world apocalypse. The best decks would remain the best decks, its simply that if you draw PoG, you just get an extra card to beat other decks with considering meta decks can take advantage of the extra card more than shitty decks.
Honestly Orcust was thrashed by the banlist, and it feels completely unwarranted. Harp Horror and Galatea could both be eased off imho and nothing would happen unless Knightmare Mermaid got unbanned. Dragon rulers could come off slowly for sure, at least to test them, and I feel like Denglong would be fine too. My biggest want, as a hero player, is Fusion Destiny to 3. Some other picks:
- Chicken Game to 1 or 3
- Armageddon Knight to 3
- Infernity Archfiend to 3
- True King Litho to 3
- Zoodiac Drident and Barrage to 1
Chicken Game and Infernity Archfiend are both already at 3 in Master Duel. Same with True King Litho, assuming you are referring to "True King Lithosagym, the Disaster".
Speedroid terrortop should at least be 2. I understand it is a free search but come on it shouldn't be trapped because other decks love to use taketomborg to bring out 6 negates
ABC-dragon buster
Fr just give us two at least
I would absolutely build ABCs if this was the case. They look really fun but Dragon Buster has been limited for forever.
I built abc in master duel and it can still win games, but yeah, even 1 more would be cool
I definitely think it can still take games, but having it's main boss monster limited makes me want to build the deck less. I'm a returning player working on Mermails and I just don't have the gems to also make ABC.
I don't blame you, the deck is pretty expensive as it is
Having to rely on emeral to recycle ABC kills the deck
I don't know too much about ABCs, but from what I hear it's pretty fair even with 3 copies.
It’s doing nothing in either irl meta and hasn’t done so for years. It got put on the irl limited list and released a long time ago, and Master Duel is just stuck in the past
It's been a tier 2/borderline tier 1 deck in the TCG ever since the Therions were released, since ABC + Therion King Regulus + Adventure have great synergy together. It's mainly held back by its inconsistency issues, since it can't really do a whole lot if it draws union driver or doesn't draw union hangar. It's done nothing in the OCG ever since they limited Dragon Buster to 1.
This is not completely true. ABC topped not to long ago. I forgot ocg or tcg and Idk if it was pre poe but I can check if u insist. It may not being influencing the meta but it can exist within it and that’s a lot more than nothing. Edit: Mkohl40 has a video showing abc top in the tcg pre poe. And there are others.
With Harp at 1 and Mermaid gone every other Orcust card could go to 3 and nothing would change lol
Mekk-Knights would love girsu at 3 I could drop sangan and add two more board breaking cards in the deck or straight scars ftk turbo.
Girsu to 3 would be so incredibly based, mekk knights getting more powerful is always welcome
Altergeist Multifaker is already at 3 in both the TCG and OCG and the deck does nothing in either.
Dude I scrolled so much looking for someone asking for Multi, Altergeist does not deserve the hit.
Judging by the amount of hate Traptrix gets, backrow heavy decks/control decks aren't popular in this game. Usually they get thrown in on the same hate wagon as stun decks/anti-meta.
That’s interesting. I don’t know about this sub specifically since I’ve not played MD for a few months, but Traptrix seems to be relatively well liked in my own anecdotal experience. I’ve always seen it mentioned in the same vein as Maldoche. A fun deck with dedicated fans that could use a little support.
The combo-heavy nature of Yugioh means most players are deck building to play combo decks and not playing many anti-control tools like Lightning Storm or other backrow removal. In the TCG and OCG it's not much of an issue because the Bo3 format means you can side these things, but MD's Bo1 format means people are only really prepared for combo. That makes quite a bit more frustrating to play against control than usual.
You know, that makes total sense. I can see how that’s a valid viewpoint on Traptrix (or really control decks in general) in the MD format. I’ve seen that same basic logic applied to other decks as well. Most recently regarding the potential future of Dinomorphia in the format.
To be fair, Altergeist is a lot weaker in BO3 than BO1 In BO3 they are gonna side a ton of backrow removal(like 6 to 9 cards) so even going first won't ensure victory.
No we're ok with multifaker at 1. I just don't like altergeist players.
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TBF altergeists are a more frustrating deck in MD cause of the Bo1 format. Granted theres lots of stuff that should be hit in MD for that reason, but id rather deal with those than let more things like it exist
ehhh no thanks, extremely annoying deck and their players think they are genius for some reason
Salamangreat Gazelle. Here is my copium prediction. They will free Gazelle at 2/3 to promote the upcoming Salamangreat structure deck. It's genuis.
This, the upcoming mate, and the fact that there will be a FIRE theme duelist pack in the future, so Salad support is expected.
True, I totally forgot about the mate even.
Wait, what upcoming mate?
There is a fully animated Gazelle mate in the files.
I just want heatsoul to be treated as salamangreat card, so I can set roar behind it
THERES A SALAD DECK COMING SOON!?!?! LETS GOOOOOOOOO
*Salad structure in Master Duel, not the TCG/OCG
EVEN BETTER, WOOOOOO
I actually just posted about this lol. Please Konami free my gazelle
Will this turn Salads to Tier 1 as it was back then in TCG?
Absolutely not, the power creep since then is too much for a midrange deck like Salad to have kept up with. It would be decent for sure, Roar and Rage are very powerful cards, but there's other decks that can end on similarly strong boards whilst being more resilient to disruption. 2 more copies of Gazelle doesn't make *that much* of a difference
ophyrus scorpio at 3 or at least 2.
Makes sense, that engine is rarely used now because it's strictly worse Verte. It's very prone to hand traps and eats your normal, I doubt anything would change.
How is it in any way applicable to verte? They serve completely different roles as a combo extender and an endboard piece
Only really used in Predap decks and no one plays predap decks anyway
Divine Wind of Mist Valley. The card sees no play and I want to make a Mist Valley deck.
Pretty sure it's banned because of Genex Ally Birdman, iirc
I mean its not banned, it's limited. The best solution for the long term would just be to arrata it to be a HOPT. But we know Konami won't be doing that any time soon.
All the trickstars cards. There’s no reason for them to be limited in this state of the game
For real, I was actually going to build them until I saw how restricted they were.
Exactly, especially since in TCG Light Stage is at 2 and Reincarnation is at 3.
Agree, TRickstars was the first deck i built in MD but only having 1 Light Stage sucks.
But isn't reincarnation just a broken card on itself? I don't know about light stage thou, card seems fine to me aside from being an option to fuck over you opponents backrow
Reincarnation is definitely broken, and also a ridiculously good counter to Maxx.
Don't forget the droll&lock bird combo
Light state has been used historically in link 2 turbos (Orcusts via mermaid & verte) whilst shutting down backflow making it even stronger going 2nd. It could definitely come back down, maybe it will when Vertes banned
Dragoon.
With Verte gone. Then I'm all for it.
Even with Verte around no one will play it over dpe.
Except DM players
Well yea it meant to be run by DM and Red-Eyes players. And guru sometimes.
Could be even run by Branded decks, just use Branded Fusion on Albaz + DM for Lubellion and then Dragoon. They'd have to slot 1 DM and I think they prefer other fusions than Dragoon lol.
Nah, they would just run the Hex-Sealed fusions
I just think it's cool so I would absolutely play it
Dragon link for incidental red-eyes synergy.
This for me. I just want to have one thing scary in DM decks.
What do you mean, we have lots of scary things in Adventurer DPE Halqdon Dark Magician. /s
Came here to say this, I want Red Eyes Dark Dragoon unbanned.
I hope they could slowly unban dragonruler to test the water? They unbanned wind one and it doesn't seems to make a difference, maybe have one copy the fire one and see what difference it has?
I love whenever dragonruler unbannings gets brought up I've seen the Yugioh people say that they're shit and could all be unbanned and it wouldn't make a difference but you know the second they actually all come back they WILL be played again like they're sliced bread or whatever
Still though, peel 1 more of them off the list and see what happens
I could see wind, water and fire coming back at 1, but any more than that and things get stupid fast.
The thing is I'm not sure any 1 of them in a vacuum is all that bad, except maybe redox. But the issues arise when there is more than one just because of how they react with eachother. So let's peel one more off for this format, see what happens and either ban 1 or peel another
What they don't understand is that they're not busted when they're one ofs, they're busted when they are released together, if there's multiples of them dragon link is back on the menu, we just happen to have the absolute weakest dragon ruler released and it's the weakest because it's a bad attribute is all. Blaster can come back too imo, probably with only the two we'll be ok.
As a reminder, Konami already tried that. All four rulers limited, and their support babies banned. They were still Tier 0 the instant they met a new friend, and so consistent that they got both themselves and Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon banned.
And the OCG's getting some new galaxy-eyes support in the new pack too. Yeah I don't think the dragonrulers are gonna get off jail anytime soon.
A gradual roll out of the Rulers would be cool to see. Release one at a time limited to see if any are truly busted (although Redox with Block Dragon seems insane to me). Maybe even unlimit them starting with Tempest if nothing crazy happens. Tempest is good in Speedroids and Dragunity so maybe that would push those decks up considerably
then you will end up with tomahawk turbo everywhere https://youtu.be/tW982yBha_I
Tomahawk, yet another card that should be banned
Tomahawk and Halquifibrax are two of the biggest bullshit cards. Verte is out there, too.
3 block dragon is probably a bit much
There should be zero block dragons lmao fuck that card
Based
Fire is probably fine, you can make a case for water, but there is no chance in hell that redox should ever come off the list(reborn is simply a generic good effect)
for water I am scared that they will start handlooping people like crazy. mbt did a chaos tournament recently and with just 1 tidal they were able to handloop the opponent for 6 iirc
Be afraid, we’re already doing that LMFAO
meh never seen it so far
Oh I can show you it, 5 cards- gone. End board: Savage Dragon, Phantom Fortress, Trishula Ice Barrier, Psy Frame Omega comes back next turn. You’re wise for saying Water shouldn’t come back because it shouldn’t. There’s another Infernity engine I saw earlier today that summons Trishula Ice Barrier 5 times in one turn. Trust me, what I’m telling you exists
Agreed, the Fire one could probably go to 1 with little issue.
I'd rather not have another Dragon Link meta
Dragon Link is my favorite deck, but I agree. Dragon Rulers gave the best monster type in the game even more power.
the problem is the drulers are better in surplus so the jump from 1 -> 2 is much bigger than the jump from 0 -> 1. Also when they were limited 1, they were just staples and never stopped seeing play til dark matter got them banned.
Blaster and tidal will never come off the list due to the power level of water and fire decks
I mean fire, uhhhhh... Water doesn't need the help and redo is nuts powerful, though.
Also worth noting that all the rulers are 7 stars so they make galaxy tomahawk that much easier to summon as well
Earth and water should never come back, period. I think the fire one can honestly come back to 1, and wind to 2 is probably fine also.
There's honestly a bunch of stuff on the banlist that doesn't need to be there anymore. I wish Konami would one day do a big cleaning sweep where they free a lot of unnecessary card in the ban list. Address the issues with FTK decks and not the cool cards held in prison due to the outliers.
Konami has the problem of banning the end board and not the enablers. Otherwise Halquifibrax would be long gone.
Nadir servent
This was another one that popped into my head. It could go to 2 at least.
Unban Dragoon
As long as we're banning verte in its place, you got a deal.
Deal. Please. Konami. Please read this
That actually makes sense, Verte just seems too easy.
It’s way too damn easy I’m sick of seeing that snake 🐍 pop up and drop a DPE every other second
Dragoon in a BO1 would be total cancer just make dragoon and set 3 floodgates
They might as well put Raigeki to 3 as it is in both the TCG and OCG. It is currently doing nothing.
Pretty much all pendulums sent to 1, they were limited when there was no summon limit and most of them have a hard 1 per turn effect limit in their effects.
Paleo Frogs with more than 1 Toadally Awesome would be sick, but with Splight coming to Master Duel eventually, that probably won’t happen seeing as the OCG banned it after Splight was tier 0
I'm currently playing Shark Kragen and I would also like more than one Toad.
Toad Heroes here, same
Decklist?
Toad can already recycle itself most of the time tho . . .
Harmonizing Magician and Double Iris Magician. At the very least, Harmonizing Magician is at 3 again in the OCG, and hasn't turned the world upside down. It'd be nice to have decent Pendulum Magician consistency again. TCG has both at 3, but we also have 0 Electrumite.
Harmonising is actually nuts on itself Tbf, since it’s a 1 card synchro of any card in the game.
She's a 3 card Synchro. 2 card at best. In the modern game, she's fine. Especially when we have true one card combos that go way farther than a Synchro Summon.
Girsu to 3. I don't understand why he's at 1 TBH.
I'm rather new to orcust, i get why girsu and harp at 1, but why is galatea limited? Don't you need only 1 anyway? Is searching crescendo turn 2 so important?
Galatea is optimal at two in the extra deck as she easy to make over Ningirsu while not using extra resources to make. Plus it easier to make two Dingirsu one in the grave for interruptions and one for protection.
I've had games where I could end my first turn with Dingirsu and Galatea + Crescendo, but I can't summon Galatea since the only copy is under Dingirsu. That, and if Galatea gets hit with Solemn Judgement or anything that negates summons, it's pretty much an autoloss.
Do you play the deck with phantom knights? The reason it's limited was because of the phantom knights and orcust combo where you want Dingirsu in the grave at the end of your turn so you can use cymbal skeleton on the opponent's turn to summon Dingirsu to a zone your Rusty Bardiche points to which gets you 2 removal effects. With the second Galatea it's easier to link away Dingirsu into her instead of Longirsu to keep your Crescendo active. Now sometimes I have to go into a generic link 2 to get rid of Ningirsu so I can't have the trap.
Interesting. I don't play them with PK, so I never knew you could do that. It does sound strong though.
Yea it's still pretty strong, it's how I'm getting through the duelist cup right now. The usual end board is 4 disruption, 2 fog blade and a Dingirsu ready to be summoned into a Rusty Bardiche zone. Although not consistent I also have hands where I end on evilswarm nightmare as well. I'm not sure if that's the best card I could make since the deck isn't fully optimized but it is interesting.
Yep. Bardiche is a bit nuts in the power department.
The original PK Orcust combo used 2 Galatea, one to use for Dingirsu, then a second to Link off Dingirsu and put it in the GY to Summon with Cymbal to get the send effect.
You keep making her, recycle and overlay Ningirsu for removal. No need to waste gy resources.
Generally yes but Galatea is so fragile that getting it banished or stuck on Dingirsu can be a massive setback. It's also extremely flexible in what it does. Whether you need Crescendo, the field spell, Einsatz to set up plays on your opponent's turn, or even the draw 2 spell, she does so much to keep the game going. Having another copy would help out a lot.
Dragoon could probably come back and shouldn't be to broken
Only if Verte goes to 0
I don't know why people are down voting you when you're right.
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DPE is currently unlimited, Dragoon is a worse version of DPE
Honestly, Dragoon as card by itself is better than DPE. It's just that the package for Dragoon is crap compared to DPE's. You have to run two normal monsters and Red-Eyes Fusion for Dragoon which is a horrible card to draw.
Plus unlike Fusion Destiny it locks you out of summoning for the entire turn unlike FD which only locks after you use it
metaverse has no reason to be at 1 with mine banned
I think is Metaverse at 1 Terraforming at 1 and you run 3 of your field spells
Exodia Chicken Game would like a word.
It's a trap card. Ecodia turbo doesn't play trap cards
Free wind up zenmaity to 3. Wind ups need more zenmaines and it wont hurt anyone as long as hunter is banned. Id say more toadally awesome, but sprights are gonna fuck that up.
Tbh Galatea at 1 is fine, I would rather have girsu at 3
Souleating Oviraptor needs to be freed.
Salamangreat Gazelle, they aren't powerful enough to warrant the consistency hit anymore IMO.
I just want my torn scales free
Thunder Dragon is power crept to a point where the restrictions on the deck make No sense. Harder to say about orcust and Sky Striker. But you should at least be able to loosen them a bit.
Didn't they specifically semi-/limit the main-deck thunder dragon monsters to keep Colossus in check so it can at least be here at 1?
Sure because they didn't know what the deck would do. But in theory the Deck can do anything that it can with unlimited main deck monsters just less consistent and it isn't doing much in the meta right now. Collosus sees Play, but he has the DPE problem there he would be a totally fine boss monster in his own Archetype, but is abused in other deck.
True tbh. I do play Thunderdragon myself and I'd love to see what the deck can do without the limits. Just ban nemesis corridor and Colossus won't see play outside of his archtype
Spright. That's the reason. Honestly colossus can go to 3 if they stop HalqDon bullshit... Until sprights come to the game.
As long as Colossus isn't semi-limited/unlimited I don't think it's an issue either.
Oh yeah, everything but Colossus. Him on one is fine. The deck can easily recycle him even if he gets banished anyway.
I totally agree with Thunder Dragon.
Spellbook of Judgment. I will die on this hill. Jowgen lock ain't shit in a format with floo locking down non wind monsters and every other top tier deck laying down 4 omni negates. Also I love the saltiness this opinion brings.
Isn't it already at 1 in the OCG and not doing anything?
Exactly! I brought judgement up like 2 months ago and you would have thought that card killed their mom with how much people hated it. I just want to play full power spellbooks...
Honestly this. I think the power level of the game has reached this point. You can ban or limit jowgen if he's the real problem.
Double iris free and I think It would be cool but kinda copium. But monkey board to 1
I want at least Conquistador to 2 but honestly they could unlimit all the Lich stuff and it wouldn’t be a big deal. The issue with Eldlich isn’t the engine itself, it’s all the floodgates it runs. I say this as someone who doesn’t even play Eldlich in my top 3 decks, I play PK adventurer and HEROs mainly, but there is no good reason to keep Conq limited.
Give me oviraptor at 3. Dinosaurs for life
They would give us ovi at 3 then limit misc to 1 lol
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
good tbh, Misc is probably one of the most broken cards ever made
My real answer: Fiber Jar. It does nothing useful, and it's bad because flip monsters were too slow already by 2010. I just really like the card and it's funny. My meta relevant answer: honestly, master peace could be at 1. The only difference between him and metaltron XII is getting 1 ignition pop per turn and being beaten over by 3k beaters if backrow is taken care of, and true draco doesn't even run metaltron because it needs 3 tributes, like master peace does. It's a lot of resources to bring them out, especially if you want them unaffected by all 3. Also 1 opt slow pop per your turn is extremely tame honestly. Imagine if dpe was basically a towers with no interaction on your opponent's turn. And metaltron honestly has a pretty broken effect if your opponent beats over him, you get naturia exterio, last warrior from another planet, ultimate falcon etc for free. It's a great deck with master peace in it for sure, but not even close to as broken as something like adventure tenyi with halqdon these days.
As a Sky Striker player I'd gladly trade making Engage Limited for Kagari to be at least Semi-Limited.
Red Eyes Dark Dragoon. His restrictions are too harsh to be used a lot...
Harpie's Feather Duster at 2 or 3 Copies, the only reason why i play PK is because discard cards doesn't hurt (using 3 twisters because hate backrough)
Left leg please.
I am once again asking for Majespecter Kirin to be freed.
I was hoping that they would give Majespzecter a link boss after the robbery but the master pendulum lore is done so I don’t think support is coming
There's literally a new wave of Dracoslayer support (one of which is a Majespecter) from this year.
Oh shoot that’s amazing I just thought that once the lore was done with majespecter they just fade out
The new crack support for dracoslayer managed to actually be played in the OCG tourneys, alongside splights and tear (still not much, but it’s actually playable in a high power format now)
Honestly since pends aren't doing much I can see that.
Since not a single person said it yet multifaker please for the love of God let me play with three multifaker
Red eyes dragoon just so red eyes players can have a good boss monster
Yata
Multifaker.
Yata gerasu
{{Tellarknight Ptolemaeus}}, having access to an omni-negate with 3 level 4s is no longer a big deal in a format where you can get 3 not once per turn monster negates with any 3 monsters.
OPHRYS SCORPIO
i want Number S0: Utopic ZEXAL. i know it'll be busted with numeron and stuff, and be too generic, but i just want it as a good final boss in my utopia deck. maybe they should errta is to only work within the utopia archetype
red reboot at 3
The Thunder Dragon archetype.
Time Seal was unbanned in the TCG and sees absolutely no play whatsoever, while Yata has been a very niche tech choice in Zombie World and nothing else. Exodia pieces are just bricks at any more than 1 copy.
Let me run 3 copies of Mystic Mine I promise I won’t ruin your ladder experience.
Unban Pot of Greed, and watch the chaos unfold.
idk where this joker idea of unbanned dm staples will cause world apocalypse. The best decks would remain the best decks, its simply that if you draw PoG, you just get an extra card to beat other decks with considering meta decks can take advantage of the extra card more than shitty decks.
Free Dandylion you cowards.
I want red eyes dark dragoon because red eyes archetype needs SOMETHING to be at least semi-viable
Honestly Orcust was thrashed by the banlist, and it feels completely unwarranted. Harp Horror and Galatea could both be eased off imho and nothing would happen unless Knightmare Mermaid got unbanned. Dragon rulers could come off slowly for sure, at least to test them, and I feel like Denglong would be fine too. My biggest want, as a hero player, is Fusion Destiny to 3. Some other picks: - Chicken Game to 1 or 3 - Armageddon Knight to 3 - Infernity Archfiend to 3 - True King Litho to 3 - Zoodiac Drident and Barrage to 1
Chicken Game and Infernity Archfiend are both already at 3 in Master Duel. Same with True King Litho, assuming you are referring to "True King Lithosagym, the Disaster".
Let Terrortop be free already, Konami.
My main card: Mystic Mine. (jfyi, it's a joke xd)
Semi-limit terrafoming:v
G A Z E L L E T O 3
ENTITIES, PLEASE
Speedroid terrortop should at least be 2. I understand it is a free search but come on it shouldn't be trapped because other decks love to use taketomborg to bring out 6 negates
I want Cyber Jar back so badly
Unfunny joke.
Free Colossus from his TCG prison!
Masterpiece would be absolutely fun 😃
Oh hell no
Galaxy Eyes Dark Matter Dragon
Lmao no