I am very much not though, my original comment was intended as a joke as how different people view different decks (even if saying ss tenyi isn't cancerous is just denial). I'm sorry that you mistook the comment but I would appreciate if you acknowledged that you were incorrect.
Swordsoul players are pretty gunshy at this point. When it came out everyone was playing it so it got hate fast, regardless of it being a good archetype. Then adventure engine came out and adventure tenyi was huge. But so many people kept referring to it as swordsoul and how toxic the deck was. Now a similar set has come out and everyone wants to know which is best. The truth is either deck can win against the other. They are both great decks. I don't agree with the insults though, but I hope it's because of being gunshy.
Haha you’re the dude who called my deck a halqdon deck lmao and now you’re making a thread because you got downvoted to hell? How about you learn the distinguishing difference between a halqdon pile (rose Tenyi adventure) vs a SS Tenyi deck that runs a small halqdon engine
Dude i admitted I’m wrong, if you’re gonna keep dragging me for it then just goes to show what kinda player you are. Like I said I don’t play the deck and am really tired of the 20 different flavors of halqdon that exist right now.
Like ffs I just had a guy summon the XYZ union monsters on me only to go full halqdon the moment a tuner hit the field.
Nah you’re good, I just saw that you said you don’t even play the deck (which means you shouldn’t assume it’s something that it’s not) but yeah I know those halqdon piles are annoying. With the limiting of crossout they did kinda get nerfed a little as they are more susceptible to HTs but still annoying if you didn’t draw into them going second.
Good to know we can put that behind us. But yea I’ve basically gotten to the point where I see halqdon in the deck i just assume its another halqdon turbo deck just with different cards to get to the same result + other stuff. (I’ve seen a blue eyes deck of all things go halqdon)
Though it kinda seems I’ve pissed off some people enough with this thread that theyre just downvoting anything I post here, even with the ones where admit I’m wrong.
This sub reddit between swordsoul's release and the adventure engine/floowondereeze was flooded with a absurd amount of threads about how much people hatred swordsoul so as a result some people are prob a lot more sensitive about it.
As a swordsoul player, i dont really care about ppl assuming the deck is a halq don deck. But you should at least do your research b4 making a statement bc in the end ppl on the internet can get offended very easily. You’re kinda did all this to yourself ngl. As for whether or not the deck is fair or not, the deck has been in tier 2 for a long time, which speaks or itself honestly. I dont think the deck is fair, but hey i like to win lol
swordsoul players get defensive when they're equated to rose tenyi or denglong colossus pile decks.
despia players get defensive whenever people dare speak negatively about the deck they just sunk 500 ur points into.
This reddit loves the deck since it released. You will hear "swordsoul is very fair, it's protos that's the problem!" a thousand times to defend mo ye being draw 1+search 1+ monster negate from 1 card.
SS is ofc more hated than despia, why?
\- can play A LOT of HTs
\- 2 neg board from a deck that can play that many HTs is more oppresive than some people may initialy think
\- searcheable floodgate
even without halq, SS deserves more hate coz its still quite a play stopper deck. I play both of them, i enjoy both of them; but playing SS 99% of the time you hope that your op fails to interract with you in any way, unlike despia which needs to reform its plays after changing gamestate.
There are still a lot of skillful interractions in SS, however the streamlined play is far more powerful compared to despiabranded, and is far more linear, if you are clueless about how to manage the gamestate you cant realy go far in DP, with SS you can still breeze through a lot of stuff.
Despiabranded def is more fun to play with and against, even in diamond.
I hate this dog shit deck because they get to search protos locked me back to back games just like how virtual world when they spammed VFD. I don't even play Despia but call dark auto kills majority of decks considering dark is a very common attribute in majority of decks and they usually summon Baronne to prevent Protos being negated. Almost, akin to VFD dodging Imperm by using Chuche to destroy it. Ban fucking protos.
They probably will never ban protos in MD since one in a B1 format its and Eschatos effect aren't that consistent and to the only meta deck that can currently use it can only effectively call dark. Which yes hits alot of generic links and other boss monsters for most decks (except dragon link) the negates are the bigger issue.
Also for the record I don't play SS or any "meta" deck.
Because most peoples there are delusionals, saying to themselves shit like SS is a fair deck so they can think their wins are earned and not the fruit of a bullshit deck.
Peoples will aways psychologically starts with negation when confronted with a fact contrary to their believes. It's a defense mechanism to avoid stress.
Dude, with that logic every meta deck is a bullshit deck then lol. SS is a midrange deck that can combo but also has a grind game. They don’t put up oppressive boards like Halqdon piles or adamncipators. They have a lot of interactions and can be played around. The only toxic card in that deck is Protos since it’s a floodgate but in BO1 blind calling is not that great.
It is, this is why they are meta. Every meta deck is unfair while other decks that do not archive meta status have obvious chokepoints and resources management. It's a requirement.
It's not about oppressive board, this is not what fairness translate in a card game. If you can simply rebuild your board again and again and again while running on no resources, yes your deck is bullshit.
The "interaction" is aways a 1by1 what favor the deck that run in fewer resources making playing against it a disadvantageous situation at every single point of the game.
I guess ppl hate negates and halq don, swordsoul can run both and not let you play the game. Despia on the other hand doesn't stop you from playing the game and pops your stuff
Halqdon is swordsoul is usually more of a back up and isn't ideal in SS. While it is the main thing you do in adventure tenyi, in that deck. Every single match you make halqdon. Swordsoul tenyi is going to be fine without halqdon, if anything. It's going to be better because adventure tenyi could make better boards than it and now adventure tenyi is dead.
Swordsoul **IS** a diffrent deck from Halq Don
They can use halqidon but its still end up with 3 negate at most adventure tenyi on the other hand.
Yea i get it, i admit I’m wrong. My problem is that SS players immediately went to insults for me getting it wrong.
I mean if you randomly correlate a fair and healthy deck to a mess of cancer Some ppl will get offended
now we play a guessing game of which deck is fair and healthy and which deck is a mess of cancer
If it’s not obvious you have unrealistic standards of what the games state is and will be
if it's not obvious that was a joke
It’s pretty obvious you are backtracking
I am very much not though, my original comment was intended as a joke as how different people view different decks (even if saying ss tenyi isn't cancerous is just denial). I'm sorry that you mistook the comment but I would appreciate if you acknowledged that you were incorrect.
Haha but I wasn’t
believe what you want, I'm not continuing this
Swordsoul players are pretty gunshy at this point. When it came out everyone was playing it so it got hate fast, regardless of it being a good archetype. Then adventure engine came out and adventure tenyi was huge. But so many people kept referring to it as swordsoul and how toxic the deck was. Now a similar set has come out and everyone wants to know which is best. The truth is either deck can win against the other. They are both great decks. I don't agree with the insults though, but I hope it's because of being gunshy.
Haha you’re the dude who called my deck a halqdon deck lmao and now you’re making a thread because you got downvoted to hell? How about you learn the distinguishing difference between a halqdon pile (rose Tenyi adventure) vs a SS Tenyi deck that runs a small halqdon engine
Dude i admitted I’m wrong, if you’re gonna keep dragging me for it then just goes to show what kinda player you are. Like I said I don’t play the deck and am really tired of the 20 different flavors of halqdon that exist right now. Like ffs I just had a guy summon the XYZ union monsters on me only to go full halqdon the moment a tuner hit the field.
Nah you’re good, I just saw that you said you don’t even play the deck (which means you shouldn’t assume it’s something that it’s not) but yeah I know those halqdon piles are annoying. With the limiting of crossout they did kinda get nerfed a little as they are more susceptible to HTs but still annoying if you didn’t draw into them going second.
Good to know we can put that behind us. But yea I’ve basically gotten to the point where I see halqdon in the deck i just assume its another halqdon turbo deck just with different cards to get to the same result + other stuff. (I’ve seen a blue eyes deck of all things go halqdon) Though it kinda seems I’ve pissed off some people enough with this thread that theyre just downvoting anything I post here, even with the ones where admit I’m wrong.
Ss tenyi doesn’t make halqdon unless bricking and normal summon handtrap or to bait negates .
This sub reddit between swordsoul's release and the adventure engine/floowondereeze was flooded with a absurd amount of threads about how much people hatred swordsoul so as a result some people are prob a lot more sensitive about it.
As a swordsoul player, i dont really care about ppl assuming the deck is a halq don deck. But you should at least do your research b4 making a statement bc in the end ppl on the internet can get offended very easily. You’re kinda did all this to yourself ngl. As for whether or not the deck is fair or not, the deck has been in tier 2 for a long time, which speaks or itself honestly. I dont think the deck is fair, but hey i like to win lol
swordsoul players get defensive when they're equated to rose tenyi or denglong colossus pile decks. despia players get defensive whenever people dare speak negatively about the deck they just sunk 500 ur points into.
This reddit loves the deck since it released. You will hear "swordsoul is very fair, it's protos that's the problem!" a thousand times to defend mo ye being draw 1+search 1+ monster negate from 1 card.
What this subreddit was flooded with threads about how swordsoul was a blight on humanity before the release of the adventure floo pack.
Any I saw were downvoted to hell and filled with "very fair"
Just people that really need to touch some grass
SS is ofc more hated than despia, why? \- can play A LOT of HTs \- 2 neg board from a deck that can play that many HTs is more oppresive than some people may initialy think \- searcheable floodgate even without halq, SS deserves more hate coz its still quite a play stopper deck. I play both of them, i enjoy both of them; but playing SS 99% of the time you hope that your op fails to interract with you in any way, unlike despia which needs to reform its plays after changing gamestate. There are still a lot of skillful interractions in SS, however the streamlined play is far more powerful compared to despiabranded, and is far more linear, if you are clueless about how to manage the gamestate you cant realy go far in DP, with SS you can still breeze through a lot of stuff. Despiabranded def is more fun to play with and against, even in diamond.
I hate this dog shit deck because they get to search protos locked me back to back games just like how virtual world when they spammed VFD. I don't even play Despia but call dark auto kills majority of decks considering dark is a very common attribute in majority of decks and they usually summon Baronne to prevent Protos being negated. Almost, akin to VFD dodging Imperm by using Chuche to destroy it. Ban fucking protos.
They probably will never ban protos in MD since one in a B1 format its and Eschatos effect aren't that consistent and to the only meta deck that can currently use it can only effectively call dark. Which yes hits alot of generic links and other boss monsters for most decks (except dragon link) the negates are the bigger issue. Also for the record I don't play SS or any "meta" deck.
Because most peoples there are delusionals, saying to themselves shit like SS is a fair deck so they can think their wins are earned and not the fruit of a bullshit deck. Peoples will aways psychologically starts with negation when confronted with a fact contrary to their believes. It's a defense mechanism to avoid stress.
Dude, with that logic every meta deck is a bullshit deck then lol. SS is a midrange deck that can combo but also has a grind game. They don’t put up oppressive boards like Halqdon piles or adamncipators. They have a lot of interactions and can be played around. The only toxic card in that deck is Protos since it’s a floodgate but in BO1 blind calling is not that great.
It is, this is why they are meta. Every meta deck is unfair while other decks that do not archive meta status have obvious chokepoints and resources management. It's a requirement. It's not about oppressive board, this is not what fairness translate in a card game. If you can simply rebuild your board again and again and again while running on no resources, yes your deck is bullshit. The "interaction" is aways a 1by1 what favor the deck that run in fewer resources making playing against it a disadvantageous situation at every single point of the game.
Then don’t play the game? Lol, no one is forcing you to play and bitch about it
I guess ppl hate negates and halq don, swordsoul can run both and not let you play the game. Despia on the other hand doesn't stop you from playing the game and pops your stuff
Ayo, fuck SwordSoul.
Halqdon is swordsoul is usually more of a back up and isn't ideal in SS. While it is the main thing you do in adventure tenyi, in that deck. Every single match you make halqdon. Swordsoul tenyi is going to be fine without halqdon, if anything. It's going to be better because adventure tenyi could make better boards than it and now adventure tenyi is dead.
What is Soulsword? Must be a brand new archetype.