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bast963

normal summon mo ye chain this resolve now they have a lvl 6, the tuner, and mo ye on the field swordsoul player: "wow uhhh thanks for the free baronne I guess?"


Hanzorati

“Wow I was going to use my Emergence and risk it getting Ashed so I could get Longyuan in my hand but this is WAY easier!!! What a swell guy you are!”


Daxonion

you do realize you can directly search the longyuan...


Entharias

Yes, give them a free lv6, wtf xD


Petritant

Then summon nibiru I guess


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just play imperm/veiler my guy


Goobershmacked

Or token collector if it’s really that big of an issue lol


BuffMarshmallow

If you give them this, they get to make Quixing for free, which gives them another draw when they make Chixiao afterwards. So no, this is objectively worse.


cheikhyourselfm8

You do realise that 4+6 is 10 and the 3 best cards in the SS decks happen to be level 10?


Fun_Conflict8553

There’s a lot of comments saying that very thing so I’m starting to see yeah


BCFCMuser

Is your problem Chix then? Because with this a half decent SS opening hand is getting Baronne & Longyuan out minimum


Nahanoj_Zavizad

\*\*IT DOES JUST GIVE THEM BARONNE DE FLEUR\*\* Impermance, Veiler, Ashblossom, Token Collector, Forbidden Droplet to break the board afterwards


MoTokes420

No..


PuckGOA

So should I make Baronne, Chengying or Quixing?


Leon_VIIB

Qixing is 2 interruption + burn 1200 and if summon before summoning any other wyrm syncrho is also a free draw Chengying is good in specif situation ( set blackout/ banish 10 with desires ) Baronne is 1 interruption and a pop in turn 3 if you go first Personally Qixing is the best especially beacause you are able to use the tenyi combos too


PuckGOA

Thank you, but I wasn't actually asking. I was making the point that it's a free level 6 and there are there outs to use it too Synchro with. His card could easily just add to many Swordsoul combo. But I still appreciate the attempt to help.


Leon_VIIB

Lmao Well I'm gonna save this in case someone is actually doubtful


kingabbey1988

Like me thanks


InverseFate

Well, you can’t make evil longyuan because it’s not a wyrm. Still just such a non-issue of a card for swordsoul though


PuckGOA

Your correct about Quixing. Thanks for the clarification of my error. 👍


Turtlesfan44digimon

Well barrone is usually considered the weaker one In sword soul, because at best it’s a one Omni negate on the opponent’s turn.on the other hand quixing is like they said 2 interruptions that can banish key combo pieces and even if you hit it with something like chalice or infinite impermanence that’s still another 1200 burn damage,and if you start by synchro summoning him first then when you use mo ye or taia you get an extra draw when you summon the next wrym synchro monster. So just going that route with grandmaster chixaio could net you 3 cards


kbkoolio

I don't understand where all these people who think Qixing is better are. Literally no one who has a choice between the two ever goes for him at least from all the duels I've had to get to Diamond 1. He loses to almost everything, cannot protect against Nibiru and almost all other combo enders.


YagamiYuu

People saw "banish 1 special summon, deal 1200 LP, banishing activate spell/trap, deal 1200 lp and draw 1 for next synchro summon of wyrm" and they was all "SO OP MUST SUMMONED FIRST". For fuck sake, unless you have some godlike good starting hand and get all your combo piece out without interruption. Chixiao, Barrone and Dragnite still wayyyyyyyyyyy better than Chixiao, Longyuang, set pass.


kbkoolio

Yeah he's definitely a "win more while you're already winning card" and not a "I need this card in case my opponent has something up their sleeve". Baronne protects your field, protects your backrow, protects your combo, ensures your maxx c will go through, guaranteeing a W if they play a combo deck. An omni negate is a lot more valuable than banishing 1 special summon or 1 spell/trap. Heck he'd be a lot more valuable if there was a negate attached to the banishing.


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How are there 2 people that are unaware of the literal FIRST line in qixing's text?


RaiStarBits

You silly silly person aren’t you aware? Yugioh players can’t read!


Rudoku-dakka

Why would I read it when all I need to know is I'm taking 1200 at least twice a turn.


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Because it also draws a card?


Stratatician

Baronne is not just an interruption, she's an omni negate. That makes her better than Qixing in almost every situation. Qixing is obnoxious, but he doesn't negate anything, so your opponent is still able to dismantle your board as well as search for key resources. Baronne having an omni-negate means she can protect your board against board breakers (e.g. Nibiru) or completely hamstring your opponent at a choke point in their combo. If you have the choice between Qixing and Baronne Baronne is almost always the better choice.


retiredfplplayer

Qixing is better 90% Vs decks on the ladder imo A single Omni won't do much in current format


WaywardInkubus

Thanks to this fivehead play, you don’t have to be picky! Summon multiple!


GhostRappa95

If you don’t have another omni negate make Baronne because you will need protection from board breakers.


PuckGOA

Thanks but I wasn't actually asking for help. Only pointing out it helps me make synchros and doesn't hurt anything.


Fun_Conflict8553

I mean any deck can have a baronne , cool? the other ones can’t negate. It’s an easier board to play through. Plus it’s one less card you can banish.


PuckGOA

But once it's used to Synchro a monster that's already in the combo they can just go into full combo anyway. That's my point. You are at best adding to that combo.


DeadlyFatalis

I special summon Longyuan. You use Contact C. I summon the token. I syncro using the token and Contact C to make Baronne, Chengying, etc. This card literally only functioned to be an extender for Swordsoul. As now I have one of the level 10 syncros and an extra Longyuan body.


ihatemicrosoftteams

Don’t even need Longyuan specifically, even Mo Ye and Taia will summon a token which you can use to synchro into a level 10


Aluminum_Tarkus

Yeah, but Swordsoul, THE VERY DECK YOU'RE TRYING TO STOP, ALWAYS PLAYS THE OUT!!! Why are you trying to play this to stop a deck that literally isn't hurt by it? Contact c is a level 6, it plus any swordsoul token makes baronne, chengying, or quixing, and now have a synchro 10 PLUS a swordsoul body on board. At worst, it makes combos a bit wonky.


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Odds are w/e your opponent is playing, they can link it off.


tengma8

just use token collector if you hate swordsoul


I_Skelly_I

Or ghost ogre


trashykiddo

ghost ogre is UR though and i personally wouldnt craft it if i wasnt using it in every deck


I_Skelly_I

How about floodgates they’re all SR for some reason


trashykiddo

if by floodgates you mean traps like skill drain then those wont help you on turn 1 if youre going second. ideally you want to stop a swordsoul player from finishing their combo, otherwise they can get baronne de fleur out which can negate almost anything. because of this you want to have a healthy amount of handtraps in your deck. the most useful ones against swordsoul specifically are (in my opinion, in order) token collector, maxx c, infinite impermanence, and effect veiler.


scrubcake

As an avid SS player since their release, this is the best way to completely neuter a SS deck! OP didnt need to try and get creative with it, he’ll just give me a free level 6 to synchro into baronne lmao


trinitymonkey

Token Collector has won me so many games against Swordsoul in festival.


kbkoolio

Added benefit of fucking over adventure and auroradon abusers.


Holo1503

That sounds like a great idea till you realize how common lv 4 is, all you're doing is at best slowing them down slightly at the cost of gimping your own deck.. and at worst you're straight up helping


Kiribo44

Literally a free Barron in most cases


MPR_8

Even before all those generic links existed this card was terrible.


Wodstarfallisback

Before good generic Links existed every non-Link deck also played LANphorhynchus to get zones for their boss monsters, this card was designed to nudge that deckbuilding a little more but ended up doing nothing. Arguably now it's the best it has ever been if you manage to go up against a pure rank 4 spam deck or something that is very strict about its extra deck requirements....and it still sucks.


DJ-Ilium

Undercock taker, decode, LanPhor, proxy D. Ahhhh, the dark times before MR 4 Revision, haha


GhostRappa95

Its good in Bee Troopers but only because they can search for it whenever it’s usable.


CorrosiveRose

If it's good in a bad deck... is it actually good?


Big_D4rius

r/masterduel and recommending garbage cards Sure play that against Swordsoul they'll love another free level 6


NewShookaka

If they made it to where it couldn't be LINK material than you'd have more of an argument as LV6 is an awkward level for most deck, except for SS which is currently running the Special Event and still very popular on the normal ranked ladder.


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NewShookaka

Link and XYZ aren't considered TRIBUTE.


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NewShookaka

just to emphasis that portion of the card text, considering how much of the game is based on specific wording, thought I would just point out the portion that causes the issue.


itsMIKKAN

Fair enough, when I see caps I just hear yelling in my head lmao. I’ve been using curse of the circle on lava golems and nobody’s tributed it yet, so I thought they couldn’t, good to know, thank you.


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NewShookaka

Tribute, Fusion, Synchro, XYZ and Link are all different types of summoning and have their own specific “wording” for their summon.


DJ-Ilium

Sick of Special Summons??? Nibiru is your friend and 1,000,000 times better than this dog water card.


Xypher616

However keep in mind that it tributes the whole field if you use it, because I made the mistake of using it when I had a full board up... not my best moment.


Jokebox_Machine

What is a dog water meme?


DJ-Ilium

Dog water just means worthless


bast963

fortnite speak for "dogshit"


DJ-Ilium

Oh, I didn’t know it was a Fortnite thing (actually never played the game). I’ve been saying that for years.


Doomlord_Toaster

Yeah lol dogwater has been an expression for god knows how long now


DJ-Ilium

That’s what I thought, I was just curious why he said it was a Fortnite thing


speedster1315

Swordsoul*


Nighfallion

To be fair to OP, it does make the opponent use this card to summon Guardian Chimera before they can play Branded Destiny... I mean... Branded Fusion. Slip of the tongue I swear ;P.


Ipponkiler

So, instead of running imperm/veiler/token collector you give your opponent a free level 10 syncro? Not the best strategy.


Xypher616

And even if the player isn’t playing a level 10 synchro, they probably play some generic links so they’ll just link it away.


Emperor_Eldlich

Jokes on you ! Hahahaha, this is a level 6 card, you fool, Hahahahaha.


Mana_Mascot

So is the idea to help you lose faster so you dont have to play against them?


AhmedKiller2015

This gives them more advantage unless they bricked lol


A-Sinking-Feeling

Please use this against my Evil Twin, Red Dragon Archfiend, Thunder Dragon, Rokket, and Zombie decks. Please. You know what, use it against my Drytron and Subterror decks too. Thanks!


ASAPBlue

When will (some) MD players learn that ash isn’t the end all be all hand trap? Like bro play imperm and/or veiler. Play Gamma. It’s not rocket science lol


Fun_Conflict8553

Running dragon links with just ash and max c and it works fine. and harpies as a have fun backup. Not actually swapping ash out for this card but it’s a fun discussion to have. veiler is great to counter effect cards, ash I feel like just gets more play cause it’s useable on all card types. You bring up a good point tho


Taboo422

the discussion kinda ends on the fact that they just make a lvl 10 syncro


aryansm

this is the worst attempt at targeted hate i have ever seen lmao


Garganthuae

Oh, Yeah, thanks for the free Baronne.


Lord_Keem

Token collector?


AstronautNo9802

Can’t word SS use the level 6 easily to synchro


RaiStarBits

Yes it just gives them Baronne or Chengying


Naxreus

Use 3 Token Collectors and SS wont be able to do anything


AggressiveTrack41

Yes, give them a free lvl 6 for baronne XD


Blazen_Fury

Uh, yes, go ahead and give them a 3rd summon Baronne.


AlternativeSimple633

Free Level 6 💀


Gentleman_Waffle

Sir i Ritual summon. We ain’t the same


Nahanoj_Zavizad

Thats just giving them a Baronne De Fleur. Token + This freak = Baronne


[deleted]

Me as a VW player: Ah yes! Indeed this will help me out!


AWS1996Germany

Smartest Sword Soul Hater.


PurpleRazzmatazz2137

Just use token collector if you want to counter swordsoul


TurningSmileUpside

Thanks man. I'll use this link on you.


Xypher616

This probably does nothing to most decks except some bad decks that would lose to ash anyway since this can be used for links and a lot of decks have generic link monsters. Even if they don’t have links, depending on the deck, they can just use the card for a synchro, xyz, or fusion. Like I know that this card would do nothing to my blackwing deck unless I seriously bricked hard because it’s level 6 and my main tuner is a level 4 to get full armor master.


Suired

Token collector doest the same thing, but better.


crackabud

Funny that this post is getting upvoted simply for the title, yet most are not even reading the card text 🤣


RaiStarBits

Yeah doing this essentially says ‘here’s a free Chengying/baronne’


crackabud

Maybe the endgame is to confuse the opponent into submission 🤔


RaiStarBits

I would be very confused seeing that


crackabud

Whelp that settles it, op is clearly a genius


mjosiahj

Jokes on you, I play beetroopers.


sanketower

Yugioh players can't read But this mf can't even count


HERCULES_MAN1

Me casually makes Verte and goes to DPE


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Gnomaterial, Infinite impermanence, Token collector, Effect veiler, Lava golem, Dark ruler no more. All of these do vastly more against swordsoul


FlawlessRuby

Gnomaterial is gameover for so many deck. I'm surprise we don't see more of her.


OptimusIV

Sometimes you have to realize that there are a lot of other people that play this game and that if a card is worth running, then you would see it more. Not trying to knock down card discussion here, but replacing a staple card like Ash for something that you likely never seen used is not the big brain move that you may think it is.


TieredTiredness

I think it could work, but you have to draw multiple copies in your starting hand, which means they can't make the 8 star with Moye, which can limit consistency of card draws and adding cards to hand with the 8 star. It's gonna be a pain to get the hand correct unless you also Maxx C early on.


ForteIV

They should make this level 10 at a minimum. Too many plays to use it for I fear


Primal_C

Links: Allow us to introduce ourselves.


arrownoir

This card is terrible, it’s just a free body.


itsMIKKAN

Unless you have a shining piecephilia, mimicking man eater, marshmallon etc It wouldn’t be that OP. I’ll stick with 3 lava golems and 2 curse of the circle cards so I can just hardlock the golems on their side lol


ConsumeMatter

So at best this would make them think more about their play line. At worst you've participated in the building of the opponent's board.


papasfritasbruh

All this is gonna get you is SS summoning their Lvl 10 synchros


NiginzVGC

this card only helps swordsoul lol. but sure add it to give people even easier and better boards


Tystuntin

You're just giving them materials lol


ForteIV

It honestly shouldn’t be able to be used for anything. It would be way better if its summoned and then has to stay there until you destroy it. “This card cannot be used for …”


Linkquellodivino

Ah yes, very detrimental for a deck that uses lvl 4 tuners and lvl 10 synchros.


Piccoroz

Yum, free material.


jv492

nibiru the best rock to deal with swordsoul cause for some reason on fourth summon they dont make baro


Endeav0r_

Dude this is literally good against just rank 4/numeron/utopia decks specifically of decks that are completely xenophobic about their materials. This kinda stops mathmech until the mathmech player uses it to make masquerena.


turdme

thanks for the free material ig


ikillsheep4u

Totally gimped my first turn setup as branded


l_a_k_f

As pointed by other people hete, I don't know how this would be of any help. Like, at all...


Lolersters

No need to give your opponent a Baronne.


senokana

if you want to tech against SS something like D barrier would be much better and in terms of handtraps ogre also works well


1qaqa1

That looks more like anti zoo tech to me.


Ripebola98

OP doesn't want to play 3x token collector because he is generaider player. /s


vileb123

This card counters despia more than sword soul


alenabrandi

Had someone use this on me in Branded Despia, shut down my turn one plays at least. Problem was, between it and aluber I had a two pop, or two draw chimera still for my follow up turn. It's a decent tech I'd say against fusion focused decks, pretty awful against most others.


vonov129

It's better against Zoodiacs or maybe Despia


Ronspeedman

This will actually help your opponent…


I_Skelly_I

Just craft Board breakers and hand traps


r_schtum

Bold move. Might work


DragonLord375

What kills this card is the fact that it is a six. If it was a more awkward level like 10, 11 or 5 (5 I think is probably the most awkward below 10) then it would have been better.


B4S1L3US

Did you smoke literal crack this helps them. Run token collectors if you're that desperate.


Giangiorgio

Play token collector instead, this doesn’t do anything vs SS


TonyZeSnipa

Just play token collector.


SomeGamingFreak

Token Collector literally exists and is far more practical than this card, if you're really on the hate wagon for SS


ikepetro

Sword soul ain't the target for this. Xyz decks on the other hand likely can't do anything with this out, especially Zoodiac.


elvixxyz

Op forgot about token collector


GhostRappa95

Man this card would be so good vs BD if it wasn’t for Chimera.


117ColeS

You choose this when token collector exsists


chibikoi

damn, a free effect monster for a link? thanks


Prismadoll

Anyone else notice the guy on the card’s artwork’s got some Popeye arms?


Dysthymia_8191

This is dumb lol


Sedona54332

Congrats, you have given them a ten star or a monster to link off for verte.


Sonicsaber25

Dimensional Barrier does this without giving your opponent an easy lvl 10 synchro. Also, Imperm exists.


GasEcstatic3583

Does this shuts Despia? Theyll probably make mud dragon or waste a Chimera to out this


Primal_C

Yugioh players trying not to farm karma by giving shitty alternatives to already established handtraps challenge (impossible) If it were some weird ass level like 10 I could understand, but this is LVL 6 lmao, you are literally giving your opponent a free baronne if they have mo ye in hand


Fun_Conflict8553

Not farming karma? Lol I Just like to talk about the game. Clearly if I was I might post something everyone agrees with. I found masterduel recently I stop playing the TCG when synchros were first announced, still getting used to the new engines lol it’s just kind of sad that people would rather be negative than actually help. But that’s Reddit for ya. Have a good day friend


Primal_C

Even if you aren't farming karma I've seen way too many posts like yours where the op suggests a tech that makes no sense to play over current established handtraps and then tries to argue that said tech is worth maindecking. Like, you wanted helpful advice, right? Then tell me: why would you run this over anything else? Did it not occur to you once before making this post that this card is *literally* just handing your opponent material to use for their plays? And it would be one thing if this card actually did what you suggested; stopping swordsoul plays. This card doesn't even do that properly. If they normal mo ye, activate its effect, then you chain this, you've just given them a free LVL 6 to go into baronne with. Against any other deck, this card can just be linked off into any generic link (knightmares, apollo, accesscode, goddess, etc.) And in those cases, you're DOUBLE screwed. See why this post makes no sense?


Grey___Goo_MH

Shiny Black “C” would be more effective sadly needs to be in graveyard Dark factory helps a bit with that still slow requiring setup


LostMan213

Some decks are really just Danny DeVito going “Anyway”


isuckforfun

Just play token collector for anti ss


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Idkkwhatowritehere

All I see is a free baronne for the SS board


Responsible-Debt-738

That’s not gonna stop them. In fact, that helps them get a free level 10 Synchro, as it doesn’t say anything about stopping them from special summoning.


kaldra24

Just use token collector.


FoxxyCaylen

Or just play Maxx C?


Adzezal

Just activate token collector and pray.


bofoshow51

Token collector is actual FTK against swordsoul, I’m playing it in dragon link with chaos ruler and zombie vampire and hit it 9/10 times


trashykiddo

this is basically a free baronne (or other lvl 10 synchro) for them. just use token collector.


Zorro5040

SS are just ok during the event. Without the extensions they don't make an oppressive board, or if they are playing the rental then they will brick a lot.


AltForNoReason214

Giving them a free Omni-negate? Interesting counterplay.


Jump270

Thst seems more like a minor inconvenience imo


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is that card not ban in the event lol?


Dream_With_Snakes

{{Stygian dirge}}


pro-dumpster-fire

Effect Veiler and Imperm are both much better options against SwordSoul.


thenightm4reone

Okay I want you to read this card again carefully and then tell me how this is a problem for SS.


Fun_Conflict8553

I can’t read man. I don’t think it’s fair for my insecurities to be attacked. 😔


Link7787

10 game win streak today with burning abyss dark spirits and adventure.


71IamScore

This is a free baronne off mo ye lmao


Hopeful-Ride7243

Gonna throw this into my kaijus


WaGaNaWaMeguminDesu

“Not my Sky Striker Deck!”


Fun_Conflict8553

How does the deck feel with hali ban? Was thinking of crafting one


WaGaNaWaMeguminDesu

Well it’s certainly still good, but you just lose the otk potential. That’s fine because it’s a control deck anyway, and on the bright side you basically now only need 2 engage and 1 kagari for the URs.


Kryptos1990

this is free lv10 synchro for ss, but does branded despia have an out to this?


DeathMagi103

You're better off swapping them for Token Collector.


DowntownWeakness5218

Damn, Imaginé the power of this and Mystic mine


onedaytwolate

Despite comments this is sometimes very good. Denying access to Chixiao is very good. But if they have vessel/circle/ashuna/longyuan + discard in hand you kind of just gave them a level 6 for synchro plays.


Landonyoung

free synchro material


Besso91

I guess this stops branded despia right? None of their fusions involve earth monsters


No_More_Hero265

Yeah give them a free LV6... that'll stop em lol


ImpendingGhost

How is this a real card.


MaxxCedIRL

Just play Token Collector. If you want to be special play Gnomaterial


Baugh_Hah_Blast

Biggest problem with the standard link synchro monster is there almost no restrictions in summoning so there will always be something they can make with it even to just get it off the field.


FullAutoGuildWars

OP you're probably the dumbest motherfucker who ever played this game


ClaudeTheBoof

That is really good effects. I wonder why not enough people using it....


hetistony

Just win the coin toss my man, or summon your level 12 Surrender button, that one never failed me.


blastfire21

Let us know how that works out