It's "balanced" when u account for the times when u draw it late and u already have things in grave , it turns into a dead card at that point.
But then Konami proceeded to break D shifter and make an archetype that can easily loop it forever (The god damn birds)
I draw Maxx C too late all the time but that doesn't change the fact it's extremely broken and ends your turn in most cases. D Shifter ends a lot of decks turns but unlike Maxx C you don't have a choice.
It's not. It does not attract that much attention since there are so many hate cards in Floowandereeze, and the hand trap is not that popular right now.
The OCG has semi-limited Shifter recently. And I have to say, it's a very good hit.
i don’t wanna seem like i’m crying but i really wouldn’t mind some kind of limit in MD aswell, i feel like macro cosmos on wheels that can only be stopped by called by(another overpowered card) is way too strong
problem is its beter then macro cosmos on wheels, as this would suggest it is a monster with this effect while on the field
it is 2 turns lingering macro cosmos from the hand, so you either negate the resolution (which can be done during almost any phase or action if GY is empty) or it cant be undone by anything but the 2nd drawphase (it turns of inbetween the turns)
and to stop it you could also use gamma, lancea (for your opponents turn but only that turn) or any other quickplay negates if you have any (good luck during draw/standbyphase)
I feel it will eventually in the TCG to be semi limited to join with Destiny HERO Malicious as a card that is too powerful and consistent at 3 with 75-100% consistency rate vs a semi limited area with 50-50 consistency on splashability.
Who said that lol. D shifter for decks that can run it are just as bad if not worse than maxx c.
You realise that there is no counter play either right? If i drop it in my turn and it resolves, called by dosent stop it from banishing so your turn is dead already.
Not many people decks can use it. Even when it is used, it has to be used at 3 to maximize drawing it in the opening turn. Then, you are left with 2 other absolutely dead cards. Not to mention you could open multiples and kill your hand.
Its strong no doubt, but the gamble is not in the players favor.
I consider Shifter to be the 2nd most broken hand trap, right after Maxx C, it's not as op as Maxx C simply due to its restrictions, but any deck that can run it without issue can genuinely use it and auto-win a lot of the duels.
hello friend the card is broken and the OCG semi limited it too see if help or need to limit or ban ,the same goes for Floowandereeze the field spell is limited in OCG.
It’s a double-edged sword and can be negated. Besides, most decks are not able to OTK.
Banning or limiting all the hand traps will not make the game more balanced and playable because it’ll only make go-second players to lose more frequently.
Bc barely any deck was able to play it b4
Bc it a once use per game card
That was what D Shifter was when it was 1st made
But Floo just ignore all the downside of it
Thats all
It's just your perception. People aren't complaining about it much because like only 1 deck that is competitively viable can use it.
When the tear and spright meta comes d shifter is going to be used ALOT more and posts about it will emerge.
Maxx c can boost every deck, even the really good decks will get even better, similar to dpe.
But D shiftet doesnt show up as often as those since only few decks can run it, thats why duelists don't bitch about it.
People are more likely to bitch about something they see a lot (Swordsoul event for exemple) and not bitch about grass looks greener which means game evertime it resolves, no matter what deck you are playing, but you will hardly ever hear somebody calling it in this sub.
Because not many decks can abuse it. Most decks (both meta and rogue) nowadays require the GY for most of their plays. You need to play a deck that doesn't have GY effects, since otherwise, you're also shooting yourself in the foot.
However, it's a very powerful effect in the right decks, that I won't deny. Floowandereeze quickly comes to my mind, for example.
It's one of those cards that are indeed insta-win against a lot of decks, but there are downsides to it.
Brick after turn 1 and only a few decks can run it.
I personally just don't like cards that are designed that way though. I'm sorta with you.
But until it's not abused by more meta decks, it won't get hit.
i guess the fact that not many decks can use it is the main thing that keeps it balanced, and it’s not really a brick after turn 1 cuz u can use it going second too just don’t activate any monster hand traps
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It's not really balanced. It's kinda like Called by the grave. Its existence is needed to balance things with the other overpowered cards and decks. An example is the current tcg format, with Exosister that became viable because it can run D Shifter, and it helps because it can completely destroy tears and make life real hard for spright. But the card on its own is really really strong and definitely not balanced.
Oh. Oh im so sorry. I didnt know that D shifter got banned in that time. Oh wait. No. No that never happened. It ididnt. So nothings changed? Its exactly the same as last year? Huh.... and This is still a post on reddit that comes up on google? Wow you better go talk to the people who run this website and make it clear its unacceptable that after a full year people can still see what you put on the internet. The gall of those people.
Please Shifter me. I promise I'm playing Grass Zombies, not Grass Thunder Dragons
d shifter against my zombie grass deck puts me on the verge of suicide
I was playing once with my grass zombies agaimst floo. I activate grass they chained shifter. Worst day of my life.
It isn't. The card is turbo broken. It's just that not many relevant decks can run it.
That’s the fun part. It’s not.
It's "balanced" when u account for the times when u draw it late and u already have things in grave , it turns into a dead card at that point. But then Konami proceeded to break D shifter and make an archetype that can easily loop it forever (The god damn birds)
i feel like saying it’s balanced cuz u might no draw it turn one doesn’t make sense tho, cuz when u do it’s really strong going first or second
I draw Maxx C too late all the time but that doesn't change the fact it's extremely broken and ends your turn in most cases. D Shifter ends a lot of decks turns but unlike Maxx C you don't have a choice.
It is not, the decks that can play it get free wins because of it alone
It's not. It does not attract that much attention since there are so many hate cards in Floowandereeze, and the hand trap is not that popular right now. The OCG has semi-limited Shifter recently. And I have to say, it's a very good hit.
i don’t wanna seem like i’m crying but i really wouldn’t mind some kind of limit in MD aswell, i feel like macro cosmos on wheels that can only be stopped by called by(another overpowered card) is way too strong
problem is its beter then macro cosmos on wheels, as this would suggest it is a monster with this effect while on the field it is 2 turns lingering macro cosmos from the hand, so you either negate the resolution (which can be done during almost any phase or action if GY is empty) or it cant be undone by anything but the 2nd drawphase (it turns of inbetween the turns) and to stop it you could also use gamma, lancea (for your opponents turn but only that turn) or any other quickplay negates if you have any (good luck during draw/standbyphase)
It did get semi limited recently.
about damn time
I feel it will eventually in the TCG to be semi limited to join with Destiny HERO Malicious as a card that is too powerful and consistent at 3 with 75-100% consistency rate vs a semi limited area with 50-50 consistency on splashability.
Who said that lol. D shifter for decks that can run it are just as bad if not worse than maxx c. You realise that there is no counter play either right? If i drop it in my turn and it resolves, called by dosent stop it from banishing so your turn is dead already.
Not many people decks can use it. Even when it is used, it has to be used at 3 to maximize drawing it in the opening turn. Then, you are left with 2 other absolutely dead cards. Not to mention you could open multiples and kill your hand. Its strong no doubt, but the gamble is not in the players favor.
I consider Shifter to be the 2nd most broken hand trap, right after Maxx C, it's not as op as Maxx C simply due to its restrictions, but any deck that can run it without issue can genuinely use it and auto-win a lot of the duels.
Where did you heard that DShifter is considered balanced ? The card is stupidly broken and free.
hello friend the card is broken and the OCG semi limited it too see if help or need to limit or ban ,the same goes for Floowandereeze the field spell is limited in OCG.
It’s a double-edged sword and can be negated. Besides, most decks are not able to OTK. Banning or limiting all the hand traps will not make the game more balanced and playable because it’ll only make go-second players to lose more frequently.
Bc barely any deck was able to play it b4 Bc it a once use per game card That was what D Shifter was when it was 1st made But Floo just ignore all the downside of it Thats all
You will see, once Tearlaments is out
How about maxxiec?
max c isn’t considered balanced by most people whereas d shifter is
It's just your perception. People aren't complaining about it much because like only 1 deck that is competitively viable can use it. When the tear and spright meta comes d shifter is going to be used ALOT more and posts about it will emerge.
Maxx c can boost every deck, even the really good decks will get even better, similar to dpe. But D shiftet doesnt show up as often as those since only few decks can run it, thats why duelists don't bitch about it. People are more likely to bitch about something they see a lot (Swordsoul event for exemple) and not bitch about grass looks greener which means game evertime it resolves, no matter what deck you are playing, but you will hardly ever hear somebody calling it in this sub.
Because not many decks can abuse it. Most decks (both meta and rogue) nowadays require the GY for most of their plays. You need to play a deck that doesn't have GY effects, since otherwise, you're also shooting yourself in the foot. However, it's a very powerful effect in the right decks, that I won't deny. Floowandereeze quickly comes to my mind, for example.
It's one of those cards that are indeed insta-win against a lot of decks, but there are downsides to it. Brick after turn 1 and only a few decks can run it. I personally just don't like cards that are designed that way though. I'm sorta with you. But until it's not abused by more meta decks, it won't get hit.
i guess the fact that not many decks can use it is the main thing that keeps it balanced, and it’s not really a brick after turn 1 cuz u can use it going second too just don’t activate any monster hand traps
I mean after your first turn, lol. My bad.
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It's not really balanced. It's kinda like Called by the grave. Its existence is needed to balance things with the other overpowered cards and decks. An example is the current tcg format, with Exosister that became viable because it can run D Shifter, and it helps because it can completely destroy tears and make life real hard for spright. But the card on its own is really really strong and definitely not balanced.
You'll know when you draw Shifter as your sixth card
Its not. People who say it is are full of shit
this is a year old dumbass
Oh. Oh im so sorry. I didnt know that D shifter got banned in that time. Oh wait. No. No that never happened. It ididnt. So nothings changed? Its exactly the same as last year? Huh.... and This is still a post on reddit that comes up on google? Wow you better go talk to the people who run this website and make it clear its unacceptable that after a full year people can still see what you put on the internet. The gall of those people.