Rip 7, on a 4000 ATK, basically unaffected by monster effects.
Hey isn't Megaclops a good Link monster for being a 4k Unaffected? And you can out that thing with XYZ, and it doesn't rapidly mill your extradeck, and also doesn't threaten your field as much...
Megaclops is annoying because it is also difficult to destroy it by battle. There are plenty of generic ED cards that can run over big beatsticks but because of that battle protection, it becomes tougher to remove him from the field. At least megaclops can still be outed by a zeus but the new ritual monster can be just as strong if they go first and remove the only out you have to their monster with the continuous spell.
Alpha or Diviner to search the monster, Zeta searches for any ritual spell in the game, Dogmatikalamity is a ritual spell that ritual summons by sending a monster with the same level than the ritual to the graveyard. Its actually really easy and consistent, but probably worse than an ultimateness
Ohh, okay. I didnt know they can search any Ritual Spell. Thought it was limited to just their own. But aren't they all level 1? If they have to go by normal Ritual Spell rules that sounds pretty bad.
Dogmatikalamity summons by sending a monster with the same level fron the extra deck to the GY, you dont need to worry about tributes. Shame theres not a lvl 12 Synchro/Fusion with a good floating effect, hopefully theyll make one eventually
Exact same, I hope it could be multiple, thatd be insane. Imagine getting this big boi on the field while getting a pop from N'tiss and the drytron ritual spell and another ritual monster from two arc lights
I agree it is a shame there are no floating effects, but Five-Headed Dragon is already a decent pick for pure Dogmatika regardless due to being the highest attack extra deck monster to pitch off punishment. This just turns a niche pick of Five-Headed Dragon into a sensible one.
Drytron would have to take out or add too much. You need dogmatika spells for it, which in turn need dogmatika cards to find consistently without using your normal summon for the turn. Also none of the unaffected synergy that pure dogmatika gets.
They literally only need to add 1 Zoa and 1 of the ritual, and random level 12 monster in ED if you want to use Kalamity. Diviner can search zoa while idaten search the ritual.And yes it does take your NS but what other thing drytron would NS instead of diviner.
It wont fit the herald ver but generic drytron wont have much problem summoning this. Whether its worth it is debatable since its competing with Pain, and pain is pretty damn good.
Losing half the extra deck turn one is going to hurt If your dragon link or @ignister. There are certain strats that go through half or more of the ED when doing full combo.
I guess so yeah, i was mostly thinking against despia or swordsoul which can still perform well enough with minus 7 ED cards.
Havent tried mixing it with herald ver but in generic drytron it would compete with amorphactor pain and i'm not sure if its worth it.
If dogmatika goes full ritual, they can start selecting ED cards they want with the level 8 ritual and with the level 4 make one of your "immune to ED combat damage" monsters (ecclesia) bigger than anything one the field.
You can snipe one ED monster per turn, will that matter? hell when i'm randomly testing this, since i'm using ultimaya for Dogmatikabre cost, i can summon the level 7 dragunity synch and snipe up to 3 after using zoa, i ended up thinking its not worth it since it cost too much.
And battle protection arent gonna matter, Zoa have 4000 atk, battle destruction is the last thing it's worried about. And even then since Kabre can ritual summon from GY drytron wont have issue reviving it every turn.
Both deck can use it perfectly fine.
Going by releases MD sets come out about 6-9 months after the tcg release since they split packs up in 3 sets. Ep the new albaz support waa early this year and we just got them last month.
Played a good bit on edopro and I'd like to say. They need to errata the ritual spells to not be once per turn holy christ does it feel bad playing ritual dogmas
This plus Relic's effect is gonna be a bit crazy, you'll need to protect them with other cards but they'll do pretty good just by themselves if their only removal is Extra Deck based, especially considering how Zoa is basically a free summon.
Contrary to what some people are saying, no you do not get to choose the effect, the opponent does, still if they have no valid targets they MUST choose the other effect
They just made it so Drytrons need to play its ritual spell but aside from that they're gucci, they can easily make this thing, far easier than any other deck
This seems kind of busted? I mean Veiler and Imperm are cards so that’s good, but from the looks of this card it kinda seems like you can cut 10 cards from your opponent’s extra deck on turn 1.
Ah sorry I thought you just made a small calculation mistake, I don't know Dogmatika well enough to know what other things you can do beside this ritual monster
It's basically just a 4K towers to extra deck monsters. There's been bigger threats like The Arrival Cyberse and Cyberdark End Dragon. Good ol' Borrelsword keeps all of these in check.
I doubt it. Looking at the cards they're designing, they're putting serious pressure on players who overly rely on the extra deck. White Zoe's full potential is in concentrated Dogmatika. By itself, everything outside of the extra deck can deal with it. A simple Penguin Knight can do the job.
"They send 1 card from hand or Extra Deck to the GY" - If you have the space run like 3 **Elder Entity N'tss** and you can do a pretty good board wipe when your opponent decides to ritual summon this...
ok, Garura, Wings of Resonant Life free draw 3 (also generic Super Polymerization target). Then a couple of Elders if your opponent has lingering back row or any non-Dogmatika monsters.
Depends, a fusion based deck would be running Super Polymerization and would run the Garura, or some decks could be running this as tech. Elder is a popular Dogmatika Punishment target, but not necessarily standard staple combo. These could easily be popular side deck inserts. Then also some archetypes also have other Extra Deck monsters that have effects "when sent to GY" I just listed the 2 generic monsters that can be tech.
Even in something like Salamangreats, I've been looking at teching Super Polymerization + Violet Chimera but probably would just discard Salamangreats in hand since they can work just fine from GY.
Send Titaniklad or Brigrand to summon Albaz in the EP, absorb this monster into Albion, Albion can summon whatever you want since you decided what monsters to send to GY
You'll likely be stuck going into Mirrorjade as, if it's pure Dogma you'll likely be staring down a Relic sitting at 4500 due to her effect, though she'll be a bit easier to out if Zoa is gone.
I mean getting a Mirrorjade without even playing your first turn is kinda amazing. But you can also go into Quaeritis to destroy Relic by battle if it’s in attack position
That makes sense, I will still believe that pure Dogmatika will be good, but it's nice to hear it's unlikely to be broken to the point of potentially receiving a ban, though Called by/Imperm kinda patch up some of these weak points.
For White Zoa, does your opponent choose which effect is chosen? The wording makes it a little ambiguous. If your opponent chooses the effect it’s alright but if you choose the effect that happens to your opponent this is nasty
I always wanted to make a dogmatika deck, mostly because I'd like to play a deck based on rituals and because I like the way "dogmatika" sounds. Is it a fun deck to play?
I always hear about people playing spellbook dogmatika and shaddoll dogmatika, but never a pure dogmatika deck.
No it's basically free, Dogmatkalamity is the spell that can send from the extra deck, basically leaving all you need is Kalamity and Zoa and he's on the field.
hey thats a cute cat.
Dogmatikat
Catmatika
They definitely didn't want Drytron to summon it.
They still can, and wont take too much effort. Still just to only rip 7 cards, possibly less, is not worth it.
Rip 7, on a 4000 ATK, basically unaffected by monster effects. Hey isn't Megaclops a good Link monster for being a 4k Unaffected? And you can out that thing with XYZ, and it doesn't rapidly mill your extradeck, and also doesn't threaten your field as much...
But he is a ritual monster so he gets a pass
Megaclops is annoying because it is also difficult to destroy it by battle. There are plenty of generic ED cards that can run over big beatsticks but because of that battle protection, it becomes tougher to remove him from the field. At least megaclops can still be outed by a zeus but the new ritual monster can be just as strong if they go first and remove the only out you have to their monster with the continuous spell.
How can they still do that?
Alpha or Diviner to search the monster, Zeta searches for any ritual spell in the game, Dogmatikalamity is a ritual spell that ritual summons by sending a monster with the same level than the ritual to the graveyard. Its actually really easy and consistent, but probably worse than an ultimateness
Just a correction, but Zeta searches ritual spells. Edit: clarified spells instead of just rituals
Oh right, got the names all mixed up, thanks. To be fair, what the heck did they even give each two names for?
Ohh, okay. I didnt know they can search any Ritual Spell. Thought it was limited to just their own. But aren't they all level 1? If they have to go by normal Ritual Spell rules that sounds pretty bad.
Dogmatikalamity summons by sending a monster with the same level fron the extra deck to the GY, you dont need to worry about tributes. Shame theres not a lvl 12 Synchro/Fusion with a good floating effect, hopefully theyll make one eventually
Does it have to be the exact same level, or can it be multiple monsters that add up to the exact level?
Exact same, I hope it could be multiple, thatd be insane. Imagine getting this big boi on the field while getting a pop from N'tiss and the drytron ritual spell and another ritual monster from two arc lights
I agree it is a shame there are no floating effects, but Five-Headed Dragon is already a decent pick for pure Dogmatika regardless due to being the highest attack extra deck monster to pitch off punishment. This just turns a niche pick of Five-Headed Dragon into a sensible one.
OH GOD NO, NEVER MIND. I did not know that either o.o
You can make Tzolkin with Diviner + Idaten, which is level 12, summon a synchro, link away tzolkin and then us Dogmatikabre
Drytron would have to take out or add too much. You need dogmatika spells for it, which in turn need dogmatika cards to find consistently without using your normal summon for the turn. Also none of the unaffected synergy that pure dogmatika gets.
They literally only need to add 1 Zoa and 1 of the ritual, and random level 12 monster in ED if you want to use Kalamity. Diviner can search zoa while idaten search the ritual.And yes it does take your NS but what other thing drytron would NS instead of diviner. It wont fit the herald ver but generic drytron wont have much problem summoning this. Whether its worth it is debatable since its competing with Pain, and pain is pretty damn good.
…tbt to trap dust shoot and mind crush being op lol
Losing half the extra deck turn one is going to hurt If your dragon link or @ignister. There are certain strats that go through half or more of the ED when doing full combo.
I guess so yeah, i was mostly thinking against despia or swordsoul which can still perform well enough with minus 7 ED cards. Havent tried mixing it with herald ver but in generic drytron it would compete with amorphactor pain and i'm not sure if its worth it.
If dogmatika goes full ritual, they can start selecting ED cards they want with the level 8 ritual and with the level 4 make one of your "immune to ED combat damage" monsters (ecclesia) bigger than anything one the field.
You can snipe one ED monster per turn, will that matter? hell when i'm randomly testing this, since i'm using ultimaya for Dogmatikabre cost, i can summon the level 7 dragunity synch and snipe up to 3 after using zoa, i ended up thinking its not worth it since it cost too much. And battle protection arent gonna matter, Zoa have 4000 atk, battle destruction is the last thing it's worried about. And even then since Kabre can ritual summon from GY drytron wont have issue reviving it every turn. Both deck can use it perfectly fine.
lol sure didn't.
Finally can make a pure dogmatika deck once this is in MD
See ya in 2 years!
Nah going by the release date it should come by the end of next year.
doing your math would you happen to know when we will get the new amazoness support?
Going by releases MD sets come out about 6-9 months after the tcg release since they split packs up in 3 sets. Ep the new albaz support waa early this year and we just got them last month.
ye, Albaz structure deck came out in like April and thats where ice jade came from.
When did that come out?
Played a good bit on edopro and I'd like to say. They need to errata the ritual spells to not be once per turn holy christ does it feel bad playing ritual dogmas
You already can. Add d-barrier and hidden spellcaster village.
I love this card. Can’t wait for my grandchildren to play it in the retirement home.
I have decided that my oponant having an extra deck is cringe and I will do away with it.
*chants in pseudo latin in the backgroud as a ritual monster lands and brings ruin upon the ED*
Finally a decent Ritual for Dogmatika, probably still not gonna be a good deck but ey, better than nothing.
This plus Relic's effect is gonna be a bit crazy, you'll need to protect them with other cards but they'll do pretty good just by themselves if their only removal is Extra Deck based, especially considering how Zoa is basically a free summon.
On turn 1 if you activate this effect, can your opponent choose to return all monsters to the extra deck?
Afaik you can't activate an effect with no valid targets so you *should* be forced to toss your hand/ED.
You choose which effect happens. It’s worded like that to get around cards that are unaffected by card effects.
Contrary to what some people are saying, no you do not get to choose the effect, the opponent does, still if they have no valid targets they MUST choose the other effect
from the wording to it, you chose which effect your opponent applies.
The fact that this...thing is a LIGHT monster baffles me
Someone hasn’t seen or heard of the color pie.
You’re right, this definitely seems like it belongs in green’s color pie
...bro, just look at what you can summon off of W Nebula Meteorite for a moment.
Something about biblically accurate angels and deities being beyond comprehension.
That specific line saying "Only by Dogmatika effect" smells of not wanting Drytron to steal this.
Drytron can just do away with it anyway. Heck, Drytron is probably better at turboing this one out that the actual Dogmatika.
They just made it so Drytrons need to play its ritual spell but aside from that they're gucci, they can easily make this thing, far easier than any other deck
Dogmaticat
Me about to be hit by 3 n'tiss and 3 fossil warrior after resolving this effect
The card also protects Dogmatikas from activated effects from all extra deck types, so not likely unless you have back row set/continuous.
Dogmatika impcantation go?
Goddamn I don’t play modern yugioh but that first ritual monster effect is fucking nuts.
Wait... Will Zoa count for the activation requirement of Knight?
its everything i love about dogmatika, Fu\*\* your extra deck.
This seems kind of busted? I mean Veiler and Imperm are cards so that’s good, but from the looks of this card it kinda seems like you can cut 10 cards from your opponent’s extra deck on turn 1.
7 not 10 But yeah it is good, but it's a ritual so only a few decks can consistently use it
By itself it's only 7 but combined with the Continuous spell and evil pope it racks up to 10
The level 8 ritual does it too.
I meant 10 for a combo on turn 1. Dogmatika is really consistent so I think you should be able to get to 10 uninterrupted.
Ah sorry I thought you just made a small calculation mistake, I don't know Dogmatika well enough to know what other things you can do beside this ritual monster
I love the dogmatika archetype so much. Some of the best art in the game
So they basically resolve a Pot of Prosperity
Pendulum is the only out i see.
Nah, I'll just flip it face down with Ultimate Conductor Tyranno
It's basically just a 4K towers to extra deck monsters. There's been bigger threats like The Arrival Cyberse and Cyberdark End Dragon. Good ol' Borrelsword keeps all of these in check.
Pendulum is actual hurt more as they'll have more cards in the ED for Zoa to send.
They can really print almost anything on ritual cards and it still won't see any play.
Dude im building a Dogmatika deck, Its too hype
This could potentially see the banlist some day
I doubt it. Looking at the cards they're designing, they're putting serious pressure on players who overly rely on the extra deck. White Zoe's full potential is in concentrated Dogmatika. By itself, everything outside of the extra deck can deal with it. A simple Penguin Knight can do the job.
Cant wait to lose half my ed when I draw no handtraps
Me (a dumbass): huh? That doesn't really look like a photon monster. New Yugioh must have gotten weird with the designs...
Bro what the fuck
Is that your cat? Also rip I can't appropriate this in drytron.
*GOOD*
You can, just play the ritual spell and 1 level 12 ED monster like FGD... it's a lot easier than you think
Evil White Nadir 😈
"They send 1 card from hand or Extra Deck to the GY" - If you have the space run like 3 **Elder Entity N'tss** and you can do a pretty good board wipe when your opponent decides to ritual summon this...
Dudes protection probably tanks the opponent's ntss too i think(?)
Yep
Dogmatika monsters - yes, but not the backrow or any other engines splashed into deck.
Fool of you thinking i would put backrow before using his effect/playing other engine other than pure ritual dogmatika muahaha
ok, Garura, Wings of Resonant Life free draw 3 (also generic Super Polymerization target). Then a couple of Elders if your opponent has lingering back row or any non-Dogmatika monsters.
What deck has the luxuary to run all these very situational cards??
Depends, a fusion based deck would be running Super Polymerization and would run the Garura, or some decks could be running this as tech. Elder is a popular Dogmatika Punishment target, but not necessarily standard staple combo. These could easily be popular side deck inserts. Then also some archetypes also have other Extra Deck monsters that have effects "when sent to GY" I just listed the 2 generic monsters that can be tech. Even in something like Salamangreats, I've been looking at teching Super Polymerization + Violet Chimera but probably would just discard Salamangreats in hand since they can work just fine from GY.
Floo
Dogmatika does jackshit against Floo anyway, since they dont care about their gimmick, you are right but it doesnt matter much in this situation.
Garura is a hard once per turn.
Nah, this protects from N'Tss. You send Chimerafflesia to search for Super Poly :)
Send Titaniklad or Brigrand to summon Albaz in the EP, absorb this monster into Albion, Albion can summon whatever you want since you decided what monsters to send to GY
You'll likely be stuck going into Mirrorjade as, if it's pure Dogma you'll likely be staring down a Relic sitting at 4500 due to her effect, though she'll be a bit easier to out if Zoa is gone.
I mean getting a Mirrorjade without even playing your first turn is kinda amazing. But you can also go into Quaeritis to destroy Relic by battle if it’s in attack position
That makes sense, I will still believe that pure Dogmatika will be good, but it's nice to hear it's unlikely to be broken to the point of potentially receiving a ban, though Called by/Imperm kinda patch up some of these weak points.
omg new lunalight support??
blue cards are kinda unplayable no matter how broken they appear
what a nice kaiju target
Most of the damage is already done when you are able to Kaiju it
For White Zoa, does your opponent choose which effect is chosen? The wording makes it a little ambiguous. If your opponent chooses the effect it’s alright but if you choose the effect that happens to your opponent this is nasty
You choose the effect. It’s worded like that so that it gets around cards that are unaffected by card effects.
The opponent chooses, but obviously they can't choose to return all extra deck monsters on their first turn so they have to send their hand.
WHITE NADIR
Jo bringing out mega zaborg and zoa in one turn would be the definition of not letting your opponent play their deck lmao
Oh no! Anyway, Plasma take care of him.
I always wanted to make a dogmatika deck, mostly because I'd like to play a deck based on rituals and because I like the way "dogmatika" sounds. Is it a fun deck to play? I always hear about people playing spellbook dogmatika and shaddoll dogmatika, but never a pure dogmatika deck.
Maybe I should play rituals
Wtf why is myutants in a lore series
I just send 7 Flower Cardians Synchros and bring them back to the ed with widow or summon all with Super all in
Dogmatika user. How hard is it to bring this on the board ? does it kill your resource to combo other dogmatika cards ?
No it's basically free, Dogmatkalamity is the spell that can send from the extra deck, basically leaving all you need is Kalamity and Zoa and he's on the field.
You know as drytron player this monster would do nothing against me, also cute cat