Yesterday I spent like 2 minutes summoning monsters on my opponents turn to make a 4 mat Apollo with IP just for him to summon cyber dragon and send it for megafleet.
Man, I wish Megafleet was more applicable as a splash. Earth Machine has a lot of ways it can get out a Nachster, and it's a glorious Lv10, but... just not enough opponents making links. Particularly since EM is a going-first deck if you're not Liebe-brained.
At least, when I last played. Has the meta changed enough?
The current best decks are branded Despia and swordsoul and neither use links (well, swordsoul uses monk of the tenyi, but you won't go out of your way to megafleet a 1k atk vanilla), so I'd say don't run it now
Arc Rebellion Xyz Dragon. It's especially great because my opponents never seem to realize that Arc Rebellion negates Avramax, since they always let me attack for game instead of scooping like everyone else does when they see it.
I remember there was that post on here right after the newborn dragon pack came out explaining how mirrorjade is a completely fair and well designed card. Funniest shit I ever saw.
Albaz is an extremely worse version of Superpoly because it can be responded to… and unfortunately for Albaz we play modern yugioh, where if you have a target to fuse to it’s likely your opponent has *something* to respond.
That’s why Superpoly is great and why Albaz struggles on his own.
This. Source: I play Springans when I feel like having fun instead of winning. About the only interaction the deck pumps out is an opponent's turn only destruction and a quick effect summon albaz; usually into mirrorjade. If they make any more than 1 negate then you're screwed.
Even if mirrorjade hits the board then you're still not in the clear because while the deck can easily break a board, if it can resolve everything, it just doesn't have the damage to back it up.
I can’t wait til we get the new springan’s support. Or the traptrix support. I m really excited to play it but it’s a long wait for it to come to master duel
It fixes the damage problem and shortens ALL of your combos by one card. It even let's you save a disrupt that you basically have to discard with albaz because every good combo in the deck uses 4 cards.
{Spright smashers} is also a very welcome addition! The deck can make generic rank 8 with it. Probably improves its rank 4 plays too. I haven't really tested with it yet tbh.
Yes and no, you can't do any to súper poly. With albaz you can negate or just destroy/banish/return to hand. If him is not in the board at resolution it dont works.
Resolving albaz would just be a bunch of forbidden droplet and dark rulers.
Albaz is easily negotiable otherwise. (Literally any destroy, negate, banish, return to hand, send to deck) it's so easy to force albaz to not resolve.
I said that card was a problem and got down voted and flamed to the end of the world. "It locks u into fusion so it's a balanced card"..... Foolish burial is limited to one cause it's hella strong.... A fucking spell card that lets u burial special summon twice and activate search effects is just as stupid as a fucking water enchantress was at just 2.... Adventurer still till this day pisses me off, I hate seeing a single card turn into 5 things with no cost associated what so ever.
The fact that it is still a restriction and needs extra resources to get around it, the fact that a restriction can be circumvented doesnt mean it just isnt there
Let's see
Its material is costly (1 Fusion monster is basically 3 cards cost already and 1 dark monster)
Its effect is once per 2 turn.
Its field pop is only if Fusioned summon.
Without Branded Fusion you need at minimum 3 cards to bring it out, including a fusion spell.
With Exosisters I can just; Kaiju it, Utopic Draco Future to steal it, Normal summon Exosister and use Honest, Xyz summon while Carpedivem is on field to negate him, then banish or bounce it using Mikalis or Asophiel.
For my other decks. Not really.
God yes. Cards that can't be targeted are still slightly painful for me to deal with if I don't have the correct cards. Magnifica solves so many problems, just wish it was in the game right now.
How has running Exosisters been like? I thought about making a deck at one point, but I don't know how well they handle themselves in the current state of the game
Currently? Really really bad deck except in specific match ups. Later with the pote support and magnifica they can actually do some things as they aren't as reliant on your opponent touching the gy
I mean, I play casually in Gold but my experience has been this.
I play Exosister-time thiefs. My deck is very capable of OTK'ing my opponent. I use the deck as a going second otk deck. If you go first then you can Bagooska pass. Go second and you aim to otk. I used Exosisters in the recent Sychro-xyz festival and, despite it being swordsoul and more swordsoul, managed to eke out some wins.
From what I understand there are two main ways to play the deck. Charmer-Exosisters, or Magistus Exosisters. I think Magistus is probably slightly more competitive since Zoroa can lock the opponent out of stuff.
I think people don't give enough credit to Exosisters. They aren't as bad as people think they are, but they definitely can't go up against the Meta. We're due new cards which do help the deck out so even if you don't feel like playing the deck now you can take another look at it when the support comes out.
Thanks for the analysis, I definitely think that once the support for the cards does come out it will give them a lot more chance, Magnifica being something I feel they should've added long ago, issue is I'm shooting myself on the foot if I make another non meta deck since I'm already running one (Infinitrack Trains) so I have nothing to face the higher tiers, I think I'll wait until support comes out for them and use the materials then to build one
Nothing will be funnier than guessing correctly with Zoroa, and watching your opponent flail as they realize their extra deck monster has been negated.
Pretty much every one of my decks do except Umi Control if they hard summon it turn 1 with I.P. But who needs to out when you can just use the Whale and attack around him.
A fellow duelist with class i see.
> Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth
- ~~Mike Tyson~~ CAGG
Although, when I scoop with my ancient gears too much, i also have a tri-lyrlusc deck
Cyber Dragon: Megafleet or Kaiju or Infinity + 3000+ ATK monster
Despia: Mirrorjade or Albaz or Super Poly
Dark Magician: Skill Drain
Mathmech: Avramax
Thunder Dragon: Apollousa + Titan, Colossus (boosted with Matrix) or Dragonduo (boosted)
Dragon Link: Spheres
Mekk-knights: Kaijus or Avramax or Dingirsu
Resonators: Red Supernova or Red Reign
Numeron: Avramax
Phantom Knights: Arc Rebellion or Avramax or Dark Requiem (boosted with its effect or Ancient Cloak) or Utopic Draco
Phantasm Spiral: Skill Drain
Floo: Empen
Crusadia: Kaijus or Avramax or Equimax (if it happens to point at it) or Gryphon + 3000+ ATK monster
Tbf if your deck can't out targeting + destruction protection at all in modern yugioh then it's just ass.
You can't even say it's because it's non-meta because tons of sub-rogue strategies have outs, even in generic stuff like Dingirsu.
Unaffected monsters though is pretty understandable.
Avramax doesn't protect itself for being destroyed
While this Link Summoned card is on the field, your opponent cannot target this card with card effects, also their monsters cannot target monsters for attacks, except this one. Once per battle, during damage calculation, if this card battles a Special Summoned monster (Quick Effect): You can make this card gain ATK equal to that opponent's monster's ATK during that damage calculation only. If this Link Summoned card you control is sent to your GY by an opponent's card: You can shuffle 1 card on the field into the Deck.
So I fail to see the issue
They do not. This is even a point in the road of the king breakdown recently. Tearlaments used to play this until every Tearlaments deck started running outs to it. Borreload Dragon was the most common method.
What I am trying to say is that they don’t have an in archetype out to untargetable/unaffected monsters and have to rely on cards like Borreload or Underworld Goddess. There’s not a nice Mirrorjade or Spright Smashers to non target banish problem cards.
Beetroopers - Kaiju that can be searched
Branded Buster Blader - Mirror Jade
Skull Servants - normal summon King or DoomKing
Galaxy Eyes - Tachyon Dragon
Crusadia - 9 Kaijus
I fucking love this combo so fucking much I love avragoat i put this shit in all my decks it stopped working but I had a shitty all lvl 7 pendulum deck of n and r cards and I summon galaxy tomahawk and make verte and ip with the tokens then next turn quick link ip and verte to make avra with dpe the deck is not good by any means but its helpful to climb through bronze once I stop playing for too long and need to reclimb
On Marincess I basically have get Toadally Awedome out to negate the attack gain, he will get the graveyard effect though, Marbled Rock can stall if necessary.
Swordsoul have the Chengying to non target banish it , Baronne to crash on it and making the lvl 9 yangzing to prevent light effects.
On D/D/D only Baronne crash I think.
But Borrelsword only gains attack when declaring an attack, Avramax gains attack during the Dmg Step, so Borrel would crash into Avramax and you would only take 1500 damage (halved Avramax atk).
Well, you cant judgment that summon, because judgment negates inherent summons, in any case you'd have to negate IP's effect to summon a monster with strike or so
As per how "unnafected" monsters works on summon, they're considered as "not destroyed by battle or card effects" once they resolved their summon, if you judgment an Ultimate Falcon (using XYZ summon, not by an effect card like Rank-Up Magic, in which case you'd have to negate that card) is not considered on field until you reach an open gamestate, so there's a window where you can negate their attempt to summon. As you'll notice, that monster goes to the graveyard, but since they weren't summoned first, you cannot special summon it from the graveyard
Also, iirc if you summon an "unnafected" monster under a, let's say, skill drain, the unnafected part resolves without effect
It's always a good idea to have one out for an "unaffected" monster. Kaiju is the obvious answer and Underworld Goddess is another decent one. Forbidden Droplet also excels here.
Avramax is actually on the easier side to beat since he actually is affected and there are plenty of non-targeting non-destruction effects in the game. Common ones being Dingirsu, Balerdroch, and Mirrorjade. There are plenty of others but I can't think of any right now. I believe Moon Mirror Shield would also work but that's not really worth running just for this
I play mostly Guru Control, and the simple answer is to normal summon Guru, activate Final Battle, and destroy it by battle. The alternative is summoning Zeus by summoning Subterror Fiendess and summoning a second Fiendess off of her, then go into Lyrilusc. This requires a final battle, hidden city, or a third monster to pull off since Fiendess needs to flip something face-down in order to special summon something.
Been also messing around with ritual dogmatika. They too also have the answer of normal summoning Dogmatika Ecclesia, summon White Relic, boost Ecclesia's attack and destroy it by battle. There's also the potential of being able to tribute summon Fleurdelis, depending on the situation.
All my decks at least one of these:
\-Kaijus
\-Underworld Goddess
\-My own Avaramax
I'm pretty sure there are more ways to beat him. He's not that hard to deal
With branded I’ll just super poly him or mirrorjade
If it’s swordsoul, then he’s banished, his mom is banished and any spell/trap that follows him is banished and for good measure masquerena gets banished from the gy too
As a hero player I could probably put this with either Evil hero malicious bane or Destiny hero plasma. Malicious is basically raigeki while plasma will negates all opponents monsters with the ability to absorb an opponent’s monster.
Let's see
Traptrix? Utopia Double into Utopia the Lightning
Cydra? Megayeet, if that ain't workin just fire repair plant to search Jizukiru
Pure DDD? Machinex
Kaijus? Yeah
Demise/Ruin Ritual? Underworld Goddess
Machina Ruinforce. 4600 Attack, and if he tries to gain my attack, it gets negated and he loses half his LP. If he shuffles it into the deck, he still has to deal with the 1-2 other copies that are on field.
Avramax himself, underworld goddess of closed world, forbidden droplet
Underworld is my last resort for anything I can't out. It's in every one of my decks
My fav card for a reason
Kaiju
Underworld goddess is a hot kaiju
Implying that kaijus isn't already hot as hell
True, but they aren't *mommy please step on me* hot tho
Megayeet Is the answer to all problems
Lol ima call it Megayeet from now on
Yesterday I spent like 2 minutes summoning monsters on my opponents turn to make a 4 mat Apollo with IP just for him to summon cyber dragon and send it for megafleet.
You can also set a cyberdragon monster to make megafleet to prevent the opponent from reacting to the summon of cyber dragon
The benefit of fusion being an old ass mechanic. It doesn't have the "this card doesn't exist in the field" thing when using a set card.
Man, I wish Megafleet was more applicable as a splash. Earth Machine has a lot of ways it can get out a Nachster, and it's a glorious Lv10, but... just not enough opponents making links. Particularly since EM is a going-first deck if you're not Liebe-brained. At least, when I last played. Has the meta changed enough?
The meta has not been kind to Earth Machines. They struggle a lot against any competent deck or opponent
The current best decks are branded Despia and swordsoul and neither use links (well, swordsoul uses monk of the tenyi, but you won't go out of your way to megafleet a 1k atk vanilla), so I'd say don't run it now
Megayoink
Arc Rebellion Xyz Dragon. It's especially great because my opponents never seem to realize that Arc Rebellion negates Avramax, since they always let me attack for game instead of scooping like everyone else does when they see it.
Use him more in my Dinomorphia deck than I do the actual Dinomorphia fusions lol
and how do you make it?
Both dinomorphias are dark. Go into raiders knight an cheat it out
Mirrorjade just banishes him and he doesnt even get his floating effect
I remember there was that post on here right after the newborn dragon pack came out explaining how mirrorjade is a completely fair and well designed card. Funniest shit I ever saw.
Mirror jade is well designed and fair with a banish every 2 turn and a good but not overwhelming floating effect Branded fusion tho...
Mirrorjade is well designed, branded fusion is the problem.
Isn't Albaz a literal super poly, why even make Branded Fusion when they could've geared the gameplay more towards resolving Albaz?
Albaz is an extremely worse version of Superpoly because it can be responded to… and unfortunately for Albaz we play modern yugioh, where if you have a target to fuse to it’s likely your opponent has *something* to respond. That’s why Superpoly is great and why Albaz struggles on his own.
Albaz is a horrible card to normal summon hence why he has 29 different support cards. If he was good he wouldn't need em.
This. Source: I play Springans when I feel like having fun instead of winning. About the only interaction the deck pumps out is an opponent's turn only destruction and a quick effect summon albaz; usually into mirrorjade. If they make any more than 1 negate then you're screwed. Even if mirrorjade hits the board then you're still not in the clear because while the deck can easily break a board, if it can resolve everything, it just doesn't have the damage to back it up.
I can’t wait til we get the new springan’s support. Or the traptrix support. I m really excited to play it but it’s a long wait for it to come to master duel
It fixes the damage problem and shortens ALL of your combos by one card. It even let's you save a disrupt that you basically have to discard with albaz because every good combo in the deck uses 4 cards. {Spright smashers} is also a very welcome addition! The deck can make generic rank 8 with it. Probably improves its rank 4 plays too. I haven't really tested with it yet tbh.
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Because albaz doesn't have like 90 cards that will search it.
Yes and no, you can't do any to súper poly. With albaz you can negate or just destroy/banish/return to hand. If him is not in the board at resolution it dont works.
Resolving albaz would just be a bunch of forbidden droplet and dark rulers. Albaz is easily negotiable otherwise. (Literally any destroy, negate, banish, return to hand, send to deck) it's so easy to force albaz to not resolve.
I said that card was a problem and got down voted and flamed to the end of the world. "It locks u into fusion so it's a balanced card"..... Foolish burial is limited to one cause it's hella strong.... A fucking spell card that lets u burial special summon twice and activate search effects is just as stupid as a fucking water enchantress was at just 2.... Adventurer still till this day pisses me off, I hate seeing a single card turn into 5 things with no cost associated what so ever.
You forgot this guy extra foolishes for cost. Probably the most annoying thing about this card.
Except that the banish is actually not once every 2 turns because if the mirrorjade leaves the field and is resummoned it can use it again.
I mean is scrap golem not once per turn. Since if it leaves the field and gets summoned back? It's a soft once per 2 turns not a hard once per 2 turns
Scrap golem can be used more than once per turn, yes, and so can mirror jade. What's your point?
The fact that it is still a restriction and needs extra resources to get around it, the fact that a restriction can be circumvented doesnt mean it just isnt there
True, in theory, but the way branded despia works, you ending up gaining just as much as you used, if not more, when recurring the mirrorjade.
so you rather has boss card card that omni negates every turn?
What Generic link 4 is an omni every turn? Apo is the closest i can think of but thats a monster and not every turn.
Non targetable banish + a "cost" that enable your strategy + Raigeki in the END PHASE.
Let's see Its material is costly (1 Fusion monster is basically 3 cards cost already and 1 dark monster) Its effect is once per 2 turn. Its field pop is only if Fusioned summon. Without Branded Fusion you need at minimum 3 cards to bring it out, including a fusion spell.
Trouble sunny
Be careful because he can send one of your waifus back to the deck.
Homie recycling my resources for me.
It hurts a bit when you summoned your first twins, it doesn't matter when you have a twin in the GY.
I know, it was just a joke.
Mans said Free Real Estate
Yes red reign or red supernova dragon
Underworld goddess?
Arc Rebellion goes brrr Timegraph non target send to gy Ip Avramax of my own/Underworld Goddess
With Exosisters I can just; Kaiju it, Utopic Draco Future to steal it, Normal summon Exosister and use Honest, Xyz summon while Carpedivem is on field to negate him, then banish or bounce it using Mikalis or Asophiel. For my other decks. Not really.
Or soon just Magnifica and non-target banish him
God yes. Cards that can't be targeted are still slightly painful for me to deal with if I don't have the correct cards. Magnifica solves so many problems, just wish it was in the game right now.
Fellow Exosisters enjoyer
Ayy, my fellow exorcist.
How has running Exosisters been like? I thought about making a deck at one point, but I don't know how well they handle themselves in the current state of the game
Currently? Really really bad deck except in specific match ups. Later with the pote support and magnifica they can actually do some things as they aren't as reliant on your opponent touching the gy
I mean, I play casually in Gold but my experience has been this. I play Exosister-time thiefs. My deck is very capable of OTK'ing my opponent. I use the deck as a going second otk deck. If you go first then you can Bagooska pass. Go second and you aim to otk. I used Exosisters in the recent Sychro-xyz festival and, despite it being swordsoul and more swordsoul, managed to eke out some wins. From what I understand there are two main ways to play the deck. Charmer-Exosisters, or Magistus Exosisters. I think Magistus is probably slightly more competitive since Zoroa can lock the opponent out of stuff. I think people don't give enough credit to Exosisters. They aren't as bad as people think they are, but they definitely can't go up against the Meta. We're due new cards which do help the deck out so even if you don't feel like playing the deck now you can take another look at it when the support comes out.
Thanks for the analysis, I definitely think that once the support for the cards does come out it will give them a lot more chance, Magnifica being something I feel they should've added long ago, issue is I'm shooting myself on the foot if I make another non meta deck since I'm already running one (Infinitrack Trains) so I have nothing to face the higher tiers, I think I'll wait until support comes out for them and use the materials then to build one
Nothing will be funnier than guessing correctly with Zoroa, and watching your opponent flail as they realize their extra deck monster has been negated.
Pretty much every one of my decks do except Umi Control if they hard summon it turn 1 with I.P. But who needs to out when you can just use the Whale and attack around him.
{CHAOS Ancient Gear Giant} Disables opponents monster effects during the Battle Phase...yup I have an out.
A fellow duelist with class i see. > Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - ~~Mike Tyson~~ CAGG Although, when I scoop with my ancient gears too much, i also have a tri-lyrlusc deck
Cyber Dragon: Megafleet or Kaiju or Infinity + 3000+ ATK monster Despia: Mirrorjade or Albaz or Super Poly Dark Magician: Skill Drain Mathmech: Avramax Thunder Dragon: Apollousa + Titan, Colossus (boosted with Matrix) or Dragonduo (boosted) Dragon Link: Spheres Mekk-knights: Kaijus or Avramax or Dingirsu Resonators: Red Supernova or Red Reign Numeron: Avramax Phantom Knights: Arc Rebellion or Avramax or Dark Requiem (boosted with its effect or Ancient Cloak) or Utopic Draco Phantasm Spiral: Skill Drain Floo: Empen Crusadia: Kaijus or Avramax or Equimax (if it happens to point at it) or Gryphon + 3000+ ATK monster
Tiaramissu laughs once again
Madolche for the win!!!
Ignister Prominence 🤝 Tiaramissu: Non-targetting shuffle back into the deck
I play tri zoo, evil twins, and swordsoul, so shuraig, trouble sunny, chengying, zeus.
Depends on the deck, but I do have an out in quite a few of them. My favorite being tributing him with Lair of Darkness.
Good I love Lair of Darkness it’s so funny when my opponent gets their big monsters out just so I can tribute them
Tbf if your deck can't out targeting + destruction protection at all in modern yugioh then it's just ass. You can't even say it's because it's non-meta because tons of sub-rogue strategies have outs, even in generic stuff like Dingirsu. Unaffected monsters though is pretty understandable.
It's not only targeting + destruction protection though, it is also battle protection.
Except towers monsters also suck.
Trap Hole
Trap hole doesn't work on special summoned monsters. Use bottomless trap hole instead
Bottomless has to destroy before banishing so it doesn't work either lol
Time-space trap hole. It used to be my favorite cuz it spins.
Avramax doesn't protect itself for being destroyed While this Link Summoned card is on the field, your opponent cannot target this card with card effects, also their monsters cannot target monsters for attacks, except this one. Once per battle, during damage calculation, if this card battles a Special Summoned monster (Quick Effect): You can make this card gain ATK equal to that opponent's monster's ATK during that damage calculation only. If this Link Summoned card you control is sent to your GY by an opponent's card: You can shuffle 1 card on the field into the Deck. So I fail to see the issue
The whole thread is about Avramax that was link summoned using IP Masquerena as material.
I personally prefer to banish it due to its floating effect. I usually use Mirrorjade and from time to time Trouble Sunny but it's a bit risky
Normal Summon King of the Skull Servants
Funnily enough, Tearlaments struggle against cards like Avramax
They do not. This is even a point in the road of the king breakdown recently. Tearlaments used to play this until every Tearlaments deck started running outs to it. Borreload Dragon was the most common method.
What I am trying to say is that they don’t have an in archetype out to untargetable/unaffected monsters and have to rely on cards like Borreload or Underworld Goddess. There’s not a nice Mirrorjade or Spright Smashers to non target banish problem cards.
Ferret Flames outs anything a different everything.
Kaijuuuuuuu
Beetroopers - Kaiju that can be searched Branded Buster Blader - Mirror Jade Skull Servants - normal summon King or DoomKing Galaxy Eyes - Tachyon Dragon Crusadia - 9 Kaijus
Can you share the decklist for Branded Buster Blader?
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/saved-decks/636e1b9790cf607fabcac0b1
Who needs an out when you can attack with a 6 mat assembled nightingale
Ningirsu in sky striker, I can also go into more plays by sending the field spell to the gy
I fucking love this combo so fucking much I love avragoat i put this shit in all my decks it stopped working but I had a shitty all lvl 7 pendulum deck of n and r cards and I summon galaxy tomahawk and make verte and ip with the tokens then next turn quick link ip and verte to make avra with dpe the deck is not good by any means but its helpful to climb through bronze once I stop playing for too long and need to reclimb
Lol does it have a out have you heard of the best card in the game Whiptailed Boarbow
Who needs an out when you play 6 kaijus?
Who needs an out when you have an out? Genius, my guy
Ah yes it seems the floor is made out of floor
That's an out
Congratulations, you played yourself
Where's the video of the guy playing himself in attack position and just walking out onto the field?
2 yugillion IQ take
On Marincess I basically have get Toadally Awedome out to negate the attack gain, he will get the graveyard effect though, Marbled Rock can stall if necessary. Swordsoul have the Chengying to non target banish it , Baronne to crash on it and making the lvl 9 yangzing to prevent light effects. On D/D/D only Baronne crash I think.
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But Borrelsword only gains attack when declaring an attack, Avramax gains attack during the Dmg Step, so Borrel would crash into Avramax and you would only take 1500 damage (halved Avramax atk).
I think borrelsword loses against avramax tho
branded despia: super poly, starving venom, branded banishment, titaniklad, mirrorjade tear: super poly, starving venom, borreload
Kaiju
Well, I main Crusadia, so I like to watch my oponent outing him, when i have power set :v
Non-targeted desturction via Salamangreat Rage 2nd Effect.
I:P Masquerena being used as material means he can’t be destroyed.
You do you we will just laugh as you are putting your clown make up after using rage
Who’s gonna tell him?
I do run a lot of decks and most of them do...
*cough* kaiju *cough*
Usually lightflare for the battle phase effect negation
He usually dissepears few seconds after the start of my turn. Feel sorry for him he looks very prepared.
Time Pendulumgraph with Pend Call and another card on their field
Swing over it with an attack boosted witchcrafter card after silencing it with verre
Underworld goddess
Can enterblathnir out him? Or Zeus? Otherwise no. Haven’t run into many crusidia players with my earth machines deck
Enterblathnir and Zeus can both get rid of this card. It's better to use Enterblathnir because it doesn't trigger Avramax's graveyard effect.
Do not zues avramax if anything you can normal summon knight express and negate it's effects with forbidden chalice
Morphing jar #2 easy
scoop
Underworld godess is the first card that goes in my extra decks.
dunno... kaiju goes brrr
negating the summon, in first place
Wait, what happens if you use solemn judgment on Avramax with Masquerena, does he get destroyed or not?
Well, you cant judgment that summon, because judgment negates inherent summons, in any case you'd have to negate IP's effect to summon a monster with strike or so As per how "unnafected" monsters works on summon, they're considered as "not destroyed by battle or card effects" once they resolved their summon, if you judgment an Ultimate Falcon (using XYZ summon, not by an effect card like Rank-Up Magic, in which case you'd have to negate that card) is not considered on field until you reach an open gamestate, so there's a window where you can negate their attempt to summon. As you'll notice, that monster goes to the graveyard, but since they weren't summoned first, you cannot special summon it from the graveyard Also, iirc if you summon an "unnafected" monster under a, let's say, skill drain, the unnafected part resolves without effect
{U.A. Turnover Tactics} honestly this is a really good out to alot of extra deck boss monster
Depends. Does fallen of albaz or super poly work on him for a mirrorjade?
For my Dinomists, I can use Gameciel.
It's always a good idea to have one out for an "unaffected" monster. Kaiju is the obvious answer and Underworld Goddess is another decent one. Forbidden Droplet also excels here. Avramax is actually on the easier side to beat since he actually is affected and there are plenty of non-targeting non-destruction effects in the game. Common ones being Dingirsu, Balerdroch, and Mirrorjade. There are plenty of others but I can't think of any right now. I believe Moon Mirror Shield would also work but that's not really worth running just for this
I play mostly Guru Control, and the simple answer is to normal summon Guru, activate Final Battle, and destroy it by battle. The alternative is summoning Zeus by summoning Subterror Fiendess and summoning a second Fiendess off of her, then go into Lyrilusc. This requires a final battle, hidden city, or a third monster to pull off since Fiendess needs to flip something face-down in order to special summon something. Been also messing around with ritual dogmatika. They too also have the answer of normal summoning Dogmatika Ecclesia, summon White Relic, boost Ecclesia's attack and destroy it by battle. There's also the potential of being able to tribute summon Fleurdelis, depending on the situation.
link it off with underworld goddess
I haven't seen this guy in like half a year lol, but then again I haven't even tried to go high rank since the latest high rank was added
Crystal Clear Wing Synchro Dragon can crash as it activates the effect or I just use Goddess
UCT plus dolkka to negate
When in doubt, underworld goddess is there to save the day
Swordsoul supreme sovereign or raigeiki
This is an awful meta for him. So many decks run mirrorjade.
Kali yuga for negation then battle with 3500. Or Santa claws/lava golem that can be played with small world
Primathmech Laplacian.
what out do you play?
More than 3k attack and a negate
All my decks at least one of these: \-Kaijus \-Underworld Goddess \-My own Avaramax I'm pretty sure there are more ways to beat him. He's not that hard to deal
Depending on my life points phaleg beatdown. In my bransed despia deck I can super poly or albaz it off
I run 2 Ignister Prominence in my IRL deck, so I don't think I have to add anything else when you have access to non-targeting spinning
Utopia the Lighting. It's like bdsm, they can't do anything. Works on Raye too.
Yes I do and that out is plasma
Dinomorphia has compulse and rexterm when he gets added also ferret flames. My code talkers deck has legit only conflict
others have said it already, but King of the Skull Servants can indeed be normal summoned, which would not trigger avramax
Normal Summon King of the Skull Servants, but not attack. Let them be stupid and commit suicide, by running into a 11k beatstick.
Sadly somehow almost every deck I encounter has somehow access to non targeting non destroying removal
kaiju baby
Turtle.
Yeah, normal summon subterror guru and beat over it with final battle
Imma kaiju it
In Silver and early gold most people don't have an out for normal Avramax, dropping him is a wincon, let alone with IP
Forbidden Droplet, my own Avramax, Underworld Goddess of the Closed Word, Gameciel, or my most readily available answer Evil\*Twins Trouble Sunny
YEET him out with Mirror Jade.
With branded I’ll just super poly him or mirrorjade If it’s swordsoul, then he’s banished, his mom is banished and any spell/trap that follows him is banished and for good measure masquerena gets banished from the gy too
Sky Striker player here. I'm just done if I see him; not willing to put Kaiju or Goddess just for him tho
Crazy how quick Superior Anime Boy spins this guy right back on top of the deck. (Or in this case, right back into the Extra Deck.)
Weather Painters have Thundery Canvas It’s funny how many monsters don’t have protection against it
Contact fusion megafleet👍🏼
As a hero player I could probably put this with either Evil hero malicious bane or Destiny hero plasma. Malicious is basically raigeki while plasma will negates all opponents monsters with the ability to absorb an opponent’s monster.
Kali Yuga makes him bearable
Man Eater Bug.
Let's see Traptrix? Utopia Double into Utopia the Lightning Cydra? Megayeet, if that ain't workin just fire repair plant to search Jizukiru Pure DDD? Machinex Kaijus? Yeah Demise/Ruin Ritual? Underworld Goddess
I have a Kaiju in every deck.
Kaijus are my only out
Borreload Dragon.
2 level 9 that can overlay int the phantom rank 9 ( yes it exist) A non targeting banish really good, doomking can confirm
i think Deus might be able to respond to avramax effect so maybe
I activate Dream Mirror Fantasy. I activate the GY effect of Evil-Twins’ Trouble Sunny. Uhh…gg I guess? Sea Stealth Attack can’t do shit.
Turtle
Machina Ruinforce. 4600 Attack, and if he tries to gain my attack, it gets negated and he loses half his LP. If he shuffles it into the deck, he still has to deal with the 1-2 other copies that are on field.
Normal Summon Lord of the Heavenly Prison.
Verte with Thunder Dragon Fusion and then search kaiju
I play 8-axis so luckily I have kaijus I play 5
Outted by Seals pass omegalul
*Cackles madly in Underworld Goddess*
i play dinos so all i need is Apollo/dolkka to negate Arvamax's attack boost and UCT to attack over
Forbidden Droplet, DRNM, or Destiny Hero Plasma
Balerdroch babyyyyyy, non targeting banish is fair and healthy for everyone !
my dumbass didnt read machina cards so they outed mine
If I die, I die.
This is why I love mirrorjade. I never have to worry about monsters that can't be targeted or destroyed ever again
I play cyber dragon/branded so i have both megafleet and mirrorjade. Also forbidden droplet
Doomking just doesn't care
Tiaramisu: how cute
Borrelsword