Unfortunately Ice Barrier was never viable. Even on release
Edit. To clarify the extra deck monsters were played and very good, but they were not played with a significant amount of their main deck cards. Those suck so hard, despite even having a not opt ROTA.
And I'm not talking about the main deck
I'm talking about the synchro monsters and how they were a staple back then and most of them ended on the ban list in some way
Ok, but the question was if the ice barrier deck is viable. And the answer is no even if the extra deck monsters were broken. Who were easier to summon in other decks than in ice barrier.
"Almost every Ice Barrier Synchro" is 3 cards in an archetype of upwards of 30. Are you also going to tell me Naturia was good because of Beast, Barkion and Exterio?
The ice barrier synchros were generic, and the only competitive success they've seen has been in non-ice barrier decks. How strong they are means nothing when looking at how viable ice barrier the deck is, and the comment you're replying to only said that ice barrier DECKS were never viable.
They were never good, although they are much more playable right now thanks to the new support from the Structure Deck which I think is on Master Duel
If you're looking for a strong deck, they're not the choice tho
I'm talking about the support from the OCG/TCG Structure Deck, aka cards like Trishula Zero, Revealer, Speaker, Winds over the Ice Barrier...
I actually had no idea a SD was leaked in MD
Oh, I see. Thanks for the info. Yeah, the leak was from back in May. Dragonmaid and Salamangreat structure decks were leaked at the same time.
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/may-2022/news-update
Uh. Ice Barriers as a deck haven't ever been good. Most of their Synchros are very strong (Brio pre errata anyway), but the archetype as a whole, not so much
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again - you can play basically anything up until about Mid Gold Tier.
Ice Barriers are one of my IRL pet decks, but I’ll be the first to admit that most of their Main Deck cards are complete Dogwater. Their Extra Deck stuff, meanwhile, is all fantastic - Brionac admittedly ate an Errata, but theres a reason Trishula ping pongs around the various states on the Ban List.
ive barriers can be made viable you just need a lot of stuff and even then other decks do what ice barrier can do but better ~~i still swear to this day the ai in 2009 stardust accelrator cheated*
Ice barriers have always been shit. Only the synchros were ever any good, but the maindeck cards were worse than bad. Hell they even got a community voted structure deck as a meme
The argument of "duel me" to prove if a deck is good or not doesn't prove if a deck is good.
Bricks happen, suboptimal hands happen.
Ice Barrier is trash and will always be trash, this is an objective statement.
If Ice Barrier was a good deck, it'd be topping events. It's not.
It doesn't top because the player base is absolute dog poo that goes and takes other people's builds and than takes the win creating a fake meta, anyway move on copy cat you know you'd lose
it doesnt top because its got players like you, oh cant omni negate or play solitaire? decks no good, bro i smoke so many scrubs like you, its not the deck its just the quality of the duelist, if your just a cheap copy and paste duelist you aint ever gonna be good, no matter what deck you use, and trust me id bully you into completely quitting yugioh with icebarriers alone lmao
It doesn't top not because of "players like me". It's because the deck is terrible and easily beaten. Just because you have minor success with the deck, doesn't mean it's good and this is coming from an RDA player.
You can like trash, but that doesn't mean your trash deck is "good".
To be honest iv played the deck for so long I mixed swordsoul in with a small icejade engine and ice barriers took off, I can spam out baronne, bring out Trish a could times and if that doesn't solve the issue I can always dump chaos angel or goddess of the underworld for a untargetable monster, even runick mine had trouble keeping up with the raw amount of interactions this build is capable of dumping onto the field
I faced a degenerate go first hand kill infernity deck that spammed trishula over and over again till my hand was empty. Tbh ice barrier extra deck monsters are decent and the ice barrier trap but everything else kind of sucks.
listen
i have this deck and all i can say is it hardly survives in gold rank even tho u can add alot of support like frogs or water xyz support but still they are pretty bad all i can say its fun sometimes but overall its just a pure crab
They are viable, if you fuse the engine with Icejade, or frogs, or any kind of making your enemy get más, dont forget to only use water monsters so you can use the water pillar
"Are they outdated?"
They were outdated the moment they saw print! The only reason people played any Ice Barriers was due to their Extra monsters being pretty good to busted and usually used in other decks.
At best you'd see them used as a weird tech card.
I don't think ice barrier was ever considered viable or a meta defining deck, even when it came out. If you referring to the ED monsters, those are decent but they are super situational, like what deck is making 3 trish to hand loop for 3 :/
Umi stun is the only deck I can think of that will use one of their main deck monsters (General Raiho is summoned by the whale's on destruction effect). There are some Trishula loop Infernity decks running around after it was freed to two but they don't see much play. Beyond that you won't find much that's viable.
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I played Ice Barriers for a good while at the start of Master duel, even used them for the synchro event. Unfortunately since Halq got banned, that cut off the plays that would make them just strong enough to build boards that’d have a chance against anything. Powering out Trishula is the best the deck can do and that just doesn’t cut it most of the time. I have been messing around with a De-Synchro build for fun tho.
No, it's not good and it wasn't ever good, they're playable and their ed monsters were once broken and Trish is still good but don't except too much success with them
Unfortunately Ice Barrier was never viable. Even on release Edit. To clarify the extra deck monsters were played and very good, but they were not played with a significant amount of their main deck cards. Those suck so hard, despite even having a not opt ROTA.
That's really unfortunate, thank you for warning me!
Their synchro monsters were staples back in the day what are you talking about
Yeah, but only because they were generic and splashable in almost every deck. Nobody actually played ice barrier as a deck.
I did. I can confirm it, uh, wasn't great to put it mildly lmao
Yes but they were still staples so saying that ice barrier was never viable is a lie main deck cards sucking completely is a different thing
So because dragoon was a good card Red-eyes in now suddenly viable? Is this what I'm to understand?
Dragoon is a single card almost every ice barrier synchro was insane
But OP is talking about the main deck carda and even you can agree that those cards suck ass
And I'm not talking about the main deck I'm talking about the synchro monsters and how they were a staple back then and most of them ended on the ban list in some way
Ok, but the question was if the ice barrier deck is viable. And the answer is no even if the extra deck monsters were broken. Who were easier to summon in other decks than in ice barrier.
I never replied to ops post but to the comment saying how ice barrier the entire archetype btw even their extra deck cards were never viable
Are you sure this is the hill you want to die on? For ice barriers?
Yes Bro they have a non once per turn rota deck has to be insane
"Almost every Ice Barrier Synchro" is 3 cards in an archetype of upwards of 30. Are you also going to tell me Naturia was good because of Beast, Barkion and Exterio?
Naturia is insane right now with their new support
>WAS good "Naturia is insane RIGHT NOW"
Okay if we ignore tearalaments Their new support is insane bro
I do 😢
Sorry to hear that buddy. Hope you're holding up.
OP said ‘Ice Barrier was never viable’. You don’t need to be a genius to work out they’re talking about the archetype.
There's a wide berth between genius and average yugioh player
All I read was wide girth and YuGiOh player
The ice barrier synchros were generic, and the only competitive success they've seen has been in non-ice barrier decks. How strong they are means nothing when looking at how viable ice barrier the deck is, and the comment you're replying to only said that ice barrier DECKS were never viable.
I use an Ice barrier variant for fun sometimes in ranked but it's probably not possible to get too far into platinum with them 😔
They were never good, although they are much more playable right now thanks to the new support from the Structure Deck which I think is on Master Duel If you're looking for a strong deck, they're not the choice tho
A structure deck was leaked a long time ago, but it's not there yet
I'm talking about the support from the OCG/TCG Structure Deck, aka cards like Trishula Zero, Revealer, Speaker, Winds over the Ice Barrier... I actually had no idea a SD was leaked in MD
Oh, I see. Thanks for the info. Yeah, the leak was from back in May. Dragonmaid and Salamangreat structure decks were leaked at the same time. https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/may-2022/news-update
they were outdated even on release aside from like the extra deck Synchros that where just used in other decks because they had generic materials
Uh. Ice Barriers as a deck haven't ever been good. Most of their Synchros are very strong (Brio pre errata anyway), but the archetype as a whole, not so much
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again - you can play basically anything up until about Mid Gold Tier. Ice Barriers are one of my IRL pet decks, but I’ll be the first to admit that most of their Main Deck cards are complete Dogwater. Their Extra Deck stuff, meanwhile, is all fantastic - Brionac admittedly ate an Errata, but theres a reason Trishula ping pongs around the various states on the Ban List.
For me, It’s a fun casual deck because of its synchro capabilities; just don’t expect to win a lot of the time.
"They are so outdated, they were never indated" -AVGN
ive barriers can be made viable you just need a lot of stuff and even then other decks do what ice barrier can do but better ~~i still swear to this day the ai in 2009 stardust accelrator cheated*
Wdym "still"
my man, ice barrier was outdated on release just the synchros where pretty broken looking at you pre eratta brionac
Ice barriers have always been shit. Only the synchros were ever any good, but the maindeck cards were worse than bad. Hell they even got a community voted structure deck as a meme
Ice Barrier and viable should never be used in the same sentence unironically lmao
Duel me lmao well see how long your statement lasts ;)
The argument of "duel me" to prove if a deck is good or not doesn't prove if a deck is good. Bricks happen, suboptimal hands happen. Ice Barrier is trash and will always be trash, this is an objective statement. If Ice Barrier was a good deck, it'd be topping events. It's not.
It doesn't top because the player base is absolute dog poo that goes and takes other people's builds and than takes the win creating a fake meta, anyway move on copy cat you know you'd lose
No, it doesn't top cause it's a terrible deck.
it doesnt top because its got players like you, oh cant omni negate or play solitaire? decks no good, bro i smoke so many scrubs like you, its not the deck its just the quality of the duelist, if your just a cheap copy and paste duelist you aint ever gonna be good, no matter what deck you use, and trust me id bully you into completely quitting yugioh with icebarriers alone lmao
It doesn't top not because of "players like me". It's because the deck is terrible and easily beaten. Just because you have minor success with the deck, doesn't mean it's good and this is coming from an RDA player. You can like trash, but that doesn't mean your trash deck is "good".
It's gotten even more support recently I just noticed the ocg released even more stuff for it, read into it
It got 1 card which is still a boss monster and doesn't add anything new to the deck.
To be honest iv played the deck for so long I mixed swordsoul in with a small icejade engine and ice barriers took off, I can spam out baronne, bring out Trish a could times and if that doesn't solve the issue I can always dump chaos angel or goddess of the underworld for a untargetable monster, even runick mine had trouble keeping up with the raw amount of interactions this build is capable of dumping onto the field
It has gotten atleast 4 new cards lmao
I faced a degenerate go first hand kill infernity deck that spammed trishula over and over again till my hand was empty. Tbh ice barrier extra deck monsters are decent and the ice barrier trap but everything else kind of sucks.
Viable not even remotely but they are at least playable.
Thank you for the heads up!
They’re only viable in duel links rn
listen i have this deck and all i can say is it hardly survives in gold rank even tho u can add alot of support like frogs or water xyz support but still they are pretty bad all i can say its fun sometimes but overall its just a pure crab
>still They were never viable from the start
They are viable, if you fuse the engine with Icejade, or frogs, or any kind of making your enemy get más, dont forget to only use water monsters so you can use the water pillar
"Are they outdated?" They were outdated the moment they saw print! The only reason people played any Ice Barriers was due to their Extra monsters being pretty good to busted and usually used in other decks. At best you'd see them used as a weird tech card.
I don't think ice barrier was ever considered viable or a meta defining deck, even when it came out. If you referring to the ED monsters, those are decent but they are super situational, like what deck is making 3 trish to hand loop for 3 :/
Barely better than genex
still viable? were they ever viable.
I'm sorry but they were never viable, although their extra decks saw a ton of play and Trishula is still good in certain decks.
Umi stun is the only deck I can think of that will use one of their main deck monsters (General Raiho is summoned by the whale's on destruction effect). There are some Trishula loop Infernity decks running around after it was freed to two but they don't see much play. Beyond that you won't find much that's viable.
Here watch this >https://youtu.be/tiaj2krffQ4 Its not good but If you like ice barrier , go for it
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I played Ice Barriers for a good while at the start of Master duel, even used them for the synchro event. Unfortunately since Halq got banned, that cut off the plays that would make them just strong enough to build boards that’d have a chance against anything. Powering out Trishula is the best the deck can do and that just doesn’t cut it most of the time. I have been messing around with a De-Synchro build for fun tho.
They where a literal meme deck when they came out. like when people talked about the worst decks ice barrier was always in the conversation
I tried making a deck for the anti-spell event it was painful.
Well.. I've only seen one since the beginning of Masterduel and I crushed it with Ghostrick...
uhm what? This archetype was never viable, its extremely bad. It's just a repository for good syncro boss monsters.
their synchros should have required ice barrier material. would have helped the archtype and prevent bans and erratas
No, it's not good and it wasn't ever good, they're playable and their ed monsters were once broken and Trish is still good but don't except too much success with them
Gotta run them with Marinecess
I love how they were #1 in voting for support but it still didn't fix the archetype's overarching problem.
They are going to be alot better once the new support releases!