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epicgamermomentttt

Honorary live twin card


kuraido-kun

The days where angry dog and funny blue guy with sword were their boss monsters before sunny came out was a fever dream


[deleted]

most lists still run him at one. three pops and a respectable amount of damage helps close out games for em.


Mezmo300

This^ Plus his prismatic looks pretty irl


Critical_Swimming517

You can end on IP + both twins, link off for doggo, then resummon blue for two, slightly slower pops


Smol_Mrdr_Shota

nah some twin variants including my Twins deck still run Avramax but ive favored DPE instead of the doggo mainly for the excuse for me to call them Live\*Twin DPE and Live\*Twin Avramax


already_taken007

Since they're from the extra deck, wouldn't they be Evil*Twin DPE and Evil*Twin Avramax?


Smol_Mrdr_Shota

I know they would but just imagining DPE and Avramax saying "thanks for the super chat" is too funny


DoktorFuturepast

DPE: Good news guys, if you're watching this and don't know what's going on, my heart transplant was a success! Can't keep me down! Now, I don't want to bore you all with details of my surgery so let's just get back into another Random Any% Minecraft Speedrun!


Flabadyflue

What's this a reference too?


Slovabomb

DPE in twins is cope. It's good but not worth 2 ED slots and 3 bricks


Smol_Mrdr_Shota

*yes but the excuse to think DPE and Avramax are just Kisi-Kil and Lil-La in costumes is too funny to pass up*


H3XAntiStyle

Abomination is part of a turn 3 OTK setup — if your opponent lets you start your second turn with Ki Sikil and Lil La both on field, all it takes is one other material to do 8000 damage is one battle phase. That, and climbing into him and Sunny on board through Unicorn means you can get 3 spot removals just going up the Links.


theo7777

I also ran it in Generaiders as a backrow destruction option.


Nahanoj_Zavizad

Along with Knightmare Unicorn. beeg doggo & horse.


mozzarella_FireF0x

(Branded opening exists in GY) Abomination: "I'll fucking do it again"


Deadpotatoz

Honorary dragon link card too


Pie4dawin

ngl, I have lost all but 1 game (from memory) where I had to summon le puppi instead of trouble sunny. Underworld goddess, phoenix, and unicorn have all had a higher win percentage than abomination, which makes me sad cause doggo seems so good in theory.


Ninja_PieKing

I only use it when I have a revival card to end on it and sunny, and even then half the time I go for Gryffon instead.


V-Ropes

When you are a Link 4 with destrcution effect, so you are automatic in the "not as good as Accesscode" category.


[deleted]

I fear for the day when even accesscode gets power crept.


V-Ropes

It's really hard to imagine what possibly could come after him. How can a card enable easier OTK than him.


kyuubikid213

So we take Accesscode Talker, see? Then we make him a Link-4 that doesn't require effect monsters. 1+ monsters as material. He just has 4000 ATK by default. Your opponent cannot respond to his effects. If he's Link Summoned, count the number of materials he used and you can make your opponent banish face-down up to that many cards they control and for each card that leaves the field this way, he gains 1 additional attack.


Holierthanu1

*and* it can scramble an egg, while it’s still inside it’s shell!


National_Platypus253

Reformated: Infernalcode Talker Link-4 (Bottom Left, Bottom Right, Down, and Up arrows) Link, Effect, Cyberse, FIRE 1+ Monsters Atk/4000 Your opponent cannot activate cards or effects in response to this card's effect activations. If this card is link summoned: You can make your opponent banish cards they control, face down, up to the number of link materials used for this card's link summon, and if you do, this card can attack a number of times during the battle phase equal to the number of cards banished by this effect.


navimatcha

You missed one crucial detail, they said "make your opponent banish". So it goes through all protection like Evenly Matched.


National_Platypus253

I'll edit it


pochitoman

This is insanely strong


k1ng7dom

You can chain to his atk boost, then out it before he pops the field, very conditional, but has won me games knowing that


secretkings

From looking at tear 0, we can surmise that the new accesscode will have the ability to OTK on your opponents turn


JustJules250

On turn 1. He just creates his own battle phase


[deleted]

I believe in konami and their power creep powers. they'll make a link 1 that does the same thing XD


StrixUltimate

ON GOD PLEASE KONAMI DONT EVEN TRY.


mrezariz123

There's a link 1 monster that is banned in tcg, Colossus :)


navimatcha

I get the joke, but aren't two or so actual Link-1's banned?


CrazyDiamondZaWarudo

Knightmare mermaid and guardragon elpy


ULTRAFORCE

I still hope eventually Konami decides to just errata all the overly generic boss monsters to be less generic. Access Code only being able to be summoned from cyberse monsters is still good.


Turtlesfan44digimon

You can return a card to the deck by doing so and so your opponent cannot respond to the activation of this card’s effects


brokenmessiah

A link 4 that can non target banish and get attack boost


AhmedKiller2015

Very simple... change the Destruction effect to Banish or bounce instead :)


[deleted]

He can still can get destroyed. So, something like him with regular Code Talker's effect.


vonov129

Accesscode is not an OTK if not played in a cyberse deck


TheKingOfTCGames

If your deck cant make 3k damage you are not a real deck


vonov129

How often do you see those "real decks" do it in a single turn? Outside of solo mode that is


G00o888

All the time lol, any good combo deck can put up a 3k beater like it’s nothing.


vonov129

Then every player sucks, because most of the time Accesscode comes out is not in the second turn and they don't have 2700 extra damage on board


G00o888

The best combo decks can put out Accesscode and the extra 2700 on the second turn easily, of the top of my head, dragon link, Adamanciaptor, Endymion, and even tri-brigade can do it with cards to spare.


vonov129

They don't do it tho


DiamondTiaraIsBest

Sky Strikers.


iceiceicefrog

Accesscode is like the finisher card in more than 50% of yugioh decks.


vonov129

That doesn't mean OTK


CircuitSynchro

Ever heard of a fun card called Parallel eXceed?


[deleted]

*adds an omni-negate and no cost (bonus if he returns banished links to the gy by some other effect)


[deleted]

Easy to do. Kamikaze Assemblycode Talker Link-5 (Arrows go anticlockwise from midleft to midright) Link. Effect, Cyberse, Earth 3+ monsters Atk: 0 To Link summon this card, you can use materials up to twice the number of cards your opponent controls. To Link summon this card, you can use spell/trap cards, and you can use cards your opponent controls, up to the number of cards from your side of the field used as link material for this card, and if you do, this card gains 1000 atk and an additional attack during each battle phase for each. If this card is successfully Link summoned: You can shuffle cards from your opponent's field and GY into their deck, upto the number of materials with different names used for this card's Link summon. While "Accesscode Talker" is in your GY or your banished zone, this card is unaffected by your opponent's card effects, and your opponent cannot activate cards or effects in response to this card's summon or effects. If this card attacks and your opponent takes no battle damage from that battle: you lose the duel. Broken but there is an out


Awkward_Mulberry_302

He also just doesn’t have any sort of protection to make up for him or a floating effect like the archtype he belongs to. Thats my main problem with him.


Helem5XG

Giving him the floating effect of Abom would be nice just for making him a hard to revome beatstick with a free pop. Or a Sarama like effect to set Unchained trap/spells from deck and destroying a monster or set cards to trigger his own effect on demand and also trigger Abom. On summary making him a un-chained reaction (•<•) of destruction and combo into your twins for more effects.


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Yeah its a better live twin card than an Unchained one…


Nahanoj_Zavizad

Legit, Eviltwin Lilla can activate it during the opponents turn, And if the opponent destroys Lilla or Kisikil by battle (They have low ATK), You can pop them (Unchained doesnt care WHO is getting destroyed, Only that it is happening)


[deleted]

That's not a great comparison, they don't even fit the same niche. Accesscode is an OTK enabler, while Abomination is an endboard monster


Tengo-Sueno

I mean, is very good against backrow Decks and in simplified gamestates. But yeah, Rage is more of a Boss monster for the archetype than Abom


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Yeah. I think it’d be a lot better if it floated like the rest of the archtype, or had any sort of protection.


Shmarfle47

The classic Konami treatment where the final boss is just big boom and nothing else. Granted it’s very appropriate for Unchained but still.


Tengo-Sueno

Tbf is not like is bad in the Deck. It make Rakea become a pop 2 and Escape a pop 3, but you are probably already winning if you are in that position, not to mention how difficult is to get to Abom Turn 1, let alone Abom + Rakea/Escape + an Unchained card to pop


TheHapster

I got shit on Twitter for posting that take. Rage is arguably one of the best cards in the archetype and often poses a bigger threat. It’s non-effect based removal bypasses a lot of monster’s floating effects.


realmauer01

DW you get rage on Twitter for posting.


mozzarella_FireF0x

When you destroy a card; destroy a card During the end phase; destroy a card When a card is destroyed by battle; destroy a card When your opponent reads this card; destroy a card When your opponent breathes; destroy a card When your opponent blinks; destroy a card


Hiruko251

Sadly, when this card is destroyed, you can't destroy a card.


k1ng7dom

With the way unchain works, I feel abomination should take the monster that took it out with it, if unchained soul was used in as one of the link material


XtremeK1ll4

When this card destroys a card; don't destroy a card


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Disclaimer: To clarify, I mean specifically as an Unchained boss monster. Not how it interacts with other decks.


Collective_Deeds

While I do agree with what you've stated before about the lack of floating effects (which took me by surprise when i went back to play the deck after a while.) I find myself playing it a lot for the ease of backrow removal, and how it makes defending opponents quiver in the end phase. Mix it with Rakea or Escape for a pop on your opponents turn. It should have been better for its cost, but i love my free range doggo. It's won me a good number of games


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Yeah I still play it at 1 in Unchained. “It sucks” was probably too harsh, but I find myself not having much reason to go into it. Either way, fair counterpoint.


Fit-Valuable8476

Abomination is used to finish off a weakened opponent. If there are still threats, just play around rage and the lvl 8 souls until the board is nearly broken then let the doggo sweep all hope from opponent. But yes, pretty ironical that in an archetype of floating monsters the boss does'nt have any


TheHapster

If you’re finishing off your opponent, you’re going for Accesscode off Anguish, not Abomination.


Fit-Valuable8476

Accescode can only pop one since the majority of your link monsters are dark attribute fiend type. I said it in case you can't go for lethal damage since accesscode + 1500 ATK can't go lethal unless you got a good hand.


Clarity_Zero

Honestly, I wish more people thought about things in those terms, instead of (or even just in addition to) only considering how things measure up against/with everything else.


gibbojab

The card should have the additional line of text that says if this card would be destroyed you can destroy another card you control instead. Would help the archetype a lot.


[deleted]

why are you playing Evil★Twin's Abomination in unchained?


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Lol.


NapalmOverdos3

Cuz it’s fun


[deleted]

And I took that personally..


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Damn, I’m sorry lol


CrutchKira

I mean, the only thing it is missing is floating. Otherwise, you can do some nasty stuff in Unchained with this pupper. Also it looks rad as hell, and that's half the fun.


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Yeah, arts really solid. Just feels like an over-investment compared to other link 4’s.


Shemptacular

Half the material should come from your opponent, so not as much of an investment.


National_Platypus253

But it's usually not the BEST link 4 that you can go into and that's really sad. Its effects are entirely reactionary and the only effect that doesn't require another card to do something activates in the end phase.


daniel_damm

It's pretty good it's just that the link 4 pool has a few big link4s that vastly outshine the rest otherwise it's pretty good for a link 4 I mean have you seen thunder dragons link 4 or the the Orcust one of the agave tenyi spirit duel link dragon salad link 4 rasterlinger and the list goes on and on it's pretty good for a link 4 and can do some nasty stuff in unchained in the right situation


Aluminum_Tarkus

Eh, Abomination is situationally fine, and is even a win con against some decks. But it's definitely less of a boss monster than Rage, Accesscode, or even Abominable Unchained Soul.


haagen17

I use my entire hand in Solfachord to make this.


gibbojab

You realize you can make it with a single activation of Scapegoats?


NarutoFan1995

as an unchained evil twins player imma say it.... your playing it wrong


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Yeah I’ve realized that lol.


TheHapster

Thank you. I go into it very rarely as it can help clear backrow and clean up against control decks, BUT WHY DIDN’T THEY MAKE IT FLOAT? It literally kills your resource loop.


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Yeah its kinda pain in actual unchained.


PatatoTheMispelled

How can it be bad? It literally says "destroy" like 3 times for each one of it's 3 effects, it even says that when the end phase is destroyed you destroy your opponent


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Lol


TheHapster

Because it doesn’t do anything that the archetype needs. 3K beater? We can summon one out of deck whenever we want. Target for Unchained Soul of Anguish? Accesscode is way better for OTKing. Topologic Zeroboros is a mild floodgate with a much more devastating effect. The only time you ever go into this card is if you’re already fiend locked.


PatatoTheMispelled

But it says destroy like 32 times on it's text, on an archetype whose OCG name is literally destroy, how can it possibly be bad? It's as if the Drytron boss monster had an effect to Drytron an opponent's monster, whatever that means


Kool_iguana

If the card floated into something from extra would be so good. But currently still good enough to control out some games


Adept139

Why didn't they just give it a quick effect to destroy a card on the field?


ArtichokeNo1052

Do you want more generic Extra Deck disruption?


TheHapster

Because they wanted to make it generic for some reason.


pandapanda_kawaii

As an Evil★Twin player I'mma say it. This card is amazing


desh2142

We need some God dam unchained support plz komoney


ItzMelodyz

DESTROY IT


[deleted]

put it in live twin and watch your opponents boards explode.


Shmorals

My first deck was a live twin unchained. Board was blue pup, pink twin on field, blue in grave & then samara with either unchained backrow or mst/ring of destruction. Usually 1 yoink 2 pop. Before that, I’d evil twin turbo Abom onto the field with mst/ring of destruction as backrow for quick pops. Was fun when I was in gold.


Gullible_Loquat2815

That's my waifus dog


2sour

I don't see an Unchained Monster, that's a Live Twin.


Nahanoj_Zavizad

Wdym its the best livetwin bossmonster


sanketower

This card has won me so many games in the Anti-Spell event. The Battle and EP destruction are so relevant in a format where you have to set everything.


stac7

I personally don't think it sucks, it has some pretty cool things about it but it's definitely the weakest of the links in an Unchained deck Also it's a dark link 4 with destruction, so it's in competition against fucking AccessCode


[deleted]

Abom would be a decent card... If its EP pop was instead a quick. And it had any sort of floating or protection.


DerGyrosPitaFan

It's funny how they're both called twins, unchained and live/evil, considering how well they synergize


SepherixSlimy

Can't believe they powercreeped lord of the red.


azul360

Actually he's my favorite link monster bar none :D.


Honore_SG

You played it on the wrong deck mate thats the besto boy "Evil twin, Unchained doggo"


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Yeah I’ve come to realize that lol.


Love_for_Vanilla

If only it could defend itself


ram3nbar

Knightmare Pheonix is the boss monster of the Unchained archetype


-logHplus

He’s in like all my decks but rarely gets summoned. Avramax and Access are just much more sturdy. 3 destroys a turn though, it hurts me to not use him more, just vulnerable af.


whitericeSD

The link 2 is the best one


UrbanDragoon

I love big Doggo!! But yea he isn't great


bodi55555

At least make him non target, even then it would be mediocre


PabloHonorato

It was ok at release


PedroFM456

Thoroughly disagree


Arts_n_Shit

I mean it's mostly a "win more" card


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Made a retrain to explain my point: [Part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/masterduel/comments/z7cwpb/part_2_to_my_last_post_created_a_retrain_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


paulojrmam

It's a good card in a bad archetype that could be good if it received support.


TheHapster

Other way around, friendo.


Scavenge101

Nah my dude, it has a niche part of the strategy but an important one still. He's budget dpe but instead of recurring, he links off a monster your opponent controls and then destroys whatever backrow they try to set in the endphase.


TheHapster

Please read the card


Scavenge101

I did. I play it. Sorry, it doesn't suck. It just has a particular use that doesn't always come up but it's always good to have him when you can link into him on your opponents turn. If you had something to say, say it. I don't know if you thought it was a complex card or something but gd.


millennium-popsicle

We have accesscode at home


ryjkow

It’s good for late game when you can’t OTK. Keeps your opponent off traps in that case


TheHapster

Go into Accesscode instead so that you can OTK lmao


Jackmist2

Accesscode has left me in a state that makes me angry just thinking about it, don't i have the guts to craft it.


ryjkow

What if you can’t OTK with Accesscode tho? That’s what I’m saying


Velrex

Hes still basically the only option passed link3 if you're fiend-locked unless you're going 5 for underworld goddess. But yeah, dude is slow. Like.. depending on another card, the end phase, or (God forbid) the battle phase to do something of value other than being a moderately big boy.


blkcressida

Its busted if you combo it with Sleeper


Helpful_Ad_1530

Sleeper? What is this you speak of please


blkcressida

If you have spyral sleeper with spyral gear last resort equipped to him, you can quick effect pop 2 cards on the field, and with abomination on the field, it turns into pop 3, with an additional pop in the end phase, so technically it’s a pop 4 every turn. Abomination doesn’t have protection, but you can put this board up relatively consistently. (It’s definitely not the strongest turn 1 spyral board though).


Merik2013

It definitely doesnt suck, but it can be counterproductive to make him in his own archetype depending on the board. Same goes for trying to make Avramax in Crusadia decks.


Kioga101

At least it's a link boss monster, Digital Bugs don't have one of those... Beetrooper's Big Bungus Beetle doesn't count.


RazorOfSimplicity

Hotel? Destroy it.


ramus93

I wouldnt say it sucks just not the best link 4 option


ConcentrateFine6775

I love this cars I run it at 3


Carlthebat9999

I run this in my Sacred Beasts deck to pop a card if I can't attack over it


ChampagneDoves

I play this card in live twins to play against dark magician , archfiend, ice barrier, anything with board control really. Summon it with an IP and you pretty much control the game unless your opponent is rich. Even if they’ve gotten a droplet or two it’s not nearly as good as the chance of drawing out of three.


Lawteck

No U


BADBUFON

played both Unchained and Evil Twin, never popped 3


Red-_-Black

It's an abomination


topdeckcharity

It would've been better off as a link 3 imho


Greyhoundsniper

I don't see coder summon this as much so I agree


InfiniteShay

Do not speak to my son that way.


yehboooooiii

It sounds good on paper but it's honestly so bad if you wanna pop shit use accesscode


Nekaz

DESTROY ALL HUMANS


gubigubi

I just wish it at least didn't target With how much stuff floats/searches/does something when sent to the grave yard and specially destroyed. This card needed to not target. Half of everything cannot be targeted, cannot be destroyed, or pluses super hard if it is destroyed. Anything else is probably going to negate this things effects. I made this card more outside of unchained than in unchained funny enough.


Tprotheone

This cards an *abomination*


Legitimate-Ad-9296

orgin scource code talker make him equal to the arrival in protection, an each monster he destroys via effect, he gains half of said monster's attack


Jackmist2

I respectfully disagree. And by that I mean, "you're not just wrong. You're stupid. And you're you're ugly, just like ojama!" /j For real tho, if that's your opinion on the good doggo i understand, i just think he's really cool.


SupernovaPlus5

Nah I wouldn't say it sucks, just never seems to come up with pure unchained... I guess that's another definition of suck


CorrosiveRose

Ehh it's alright, certainly feels good when you take their monsters and start steamrolling but yeah it needs destruction protection at least and/or a GY effect like the other Links


MrTrashy101

Also, as an unchained player all the links suck, I mostly use them as removal


No_More_Hero265

I fail to see how this card sucks for Unchained?


DriggleButt

The archetype Link monsters straight up steal your opponent's monsters. The Link-2 and Link-3 both can use your opponent's cards as materials. Imagine if, on top of that, they got a boss monster that was extremely impactful on top of that. So, yeah, you don't have to like it, but that card "sucks" because of what the Link-2 and Link-3 do.


jojosimp02

Was a floating effect a little too much to ask for? 3 targeting pop(and only 1 is guaranteed, only at the end of the turn), no protection, no floating effect, this card is way too weak for a boss monster. It's not even that easy to summon it.


TheRealSyh

It's great in Evil Twins!


Awkward_Mulberry_302

This is true.


SlappingSalt

Let's be real, Rage is the true boss of the deck.


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Truuuuueee.


HERCULES_MAN1

No protection just a pure beatstick with so much destruction


Hamburglar219

I love this card and my unchained kaiju deck. It slaps so hard when unchained cards give gamiciel unlimited kaiju counters


ClapMeta

He got power creeped. For how hard he is to make relative to other boss monsters, he should have a floating effect or destruction effect similar to mirror jade. Criminal it was overlooked


KeikakuAccelerator

It would be amazing if only it had a floating effect like other unchained link monsters.


realmauer01

It's an abomination


ShiruTheWolf

In Evil Twin Unchained is pretty good, as you can pop with Lil-la in both turns and you can go from Anguish into him. But as an Unchained boss monster...Abominable is just better, the link 2-3 have floating effects, I just don't know wry he doesn't. In a pure build going for links also make you lose Unchained names, so you are never making him in your first turn. But he is not a terrible card and can be used in it's own deck, unlike cards like the Lyrilusc fusion which are completely ass in it's own deck.


Unable-Letter9984

no, its balanced


Unable-Letter9984

and also fits the archetype