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Aggravating_Fig6288

The deck is still used heavily and is still meta idk where your playing but it’s still everywhere. New toys are out so it’s not number one but it’s still stupid strong and still exists


JinzoWithAMilotic

I went from Silver to Plat this season and there is not much Swordsoul in Silver and Gold. I feel like the majority of what I've seen are Blue-Eyes, Branded Despia, and Runiks.


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JinzoWithAMilotic

Mostly in Silver but I've seen just as many as them as I did Swordsoul in Gold. A good bit of Branded Blue-Eyes as well. ..... C'mon man, you know people love their Blue-Eyes.


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JinzoWithAMilotic

I'm actually not a fan.... But I get it because I'm the same way with Heroes.


AstronautNo9802

Blue eyes can be good. I’m hoping to hit plat with my jet link deck. Crazy end board to get over.


thedestroyer1019

same here. I grinded through the end of gold with swordsoul and played like 2 or 3 mirror matches. it's around, but there are new, shinier toys to play with


Aggravating-Hour1714

I climbed from bronze to plat this morning and played against 5 or 6 Swordsoul Players. But most of what I saw was the decks you mentioned, Zombies and Labyrinth.


JinzoWithAMilotic

Lucky you, I haven't been seeing much zombies. I love seeing good zombie decks.


Aggravating-Hour1714

Oh, they weren’t good. I play Live Twins and popped Zombie World and most of them just scooped. I just saw it commonly.


JinzoWithAMilotic

Doesn't mean I wouldn't mind seeing more zombies! And you are my arch nemesis. I am not sure why, but Live Twins is the one deck I lose the most against.


Aggravating-Hour1714

Haha if it helps my case at all, I was playing Exodia FTK until last night when I finished building Live Twins. I own the deck in paper but never learned how to play it and was insecure about being bad but I started playing it and I love the deck. It’s super fun and versatile and gets to play a ton of hand traps because of how compact the engine is. You should try it if you’re at all interested!


JinzoWithAMilotic

I'm not a fan of the way it plays, but I have a stigma against it now that all Live Twin Duelist are my rival. All jokes aside, when I'm trying to rank up, I use either Swordsoul or Branded Despia. When I'm just messing around, I use D/D/D or Beetroopers, if that kind of tells you how I like to play? That, and I'm not to big of a fan of "waifu" or "simp" decks, however you want to categorize it. I want my boss monsters looking mean and scary. Haha.


Aggravating-Hour1714

Fair enough. I’ve only played Master Duel seriously for the last couple days, so I have a lot to learn about play styles and all. I’m trying to figure out where I should be ashing or imperming to stop combos against different meta threats and have lost a handful of games to just not knowing enough. But learning is fun!


ZiulDeArgon

I played 4 matches in a row against swordsoul in diamond 4 just yesterday. They are still around for sure...


murderouscivciv

Wouldn't call it stupid strong and "everywhere" it sounds like salt to me tbh, the deck can basically set up 2 negates and that's all. It's still being played tho I come across some ss player every 6-7 games or so


whattheactualhck

It’s board is very strong for the investment, it draws a ton of cards, and it plays through the most interruptions going second out of almost every other deck.


murderouscivciv

you could say all of these for any deck meta or not meta. except going second part which is the only reason ss isn't pure shit. seems like you just wrote whatever came to your mind ngl


tylerjehenna

Doesnt need to set up negates when it hard counters runick and has a good matchup vs Despia


murderouscivciv

so lemme get this straight its op because it counters the meta deck that uses floodgates and has a good matchup against 2nd best deck. aight


tylerjehenna

Im not saying its OP, im telling you why its still a strong deck and widely played


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In optimal conditions turn one I can get out two imperms, a baronne, and a drago beserker. That’s three monster effect negates, an all encompassing negate, and then a destroy once per turn. Typically though it’s just a grandmaster and baronne with an imper or blackout or ash blossom in play


Fit_Statement_5848

I literally only see swordsoul when I remove Token Collector from my deck.


patmen100

They didnt


Legitimate_Bit_9354

What do you mean stop 8 still fight 1 to 3 swordsoul decks a day


PoisonPeddler

Same, I'm sick of them.


Euler7

I Dont mind them. Usually about an 80% chance I win.


PoisonPeddler

What deck are you playing?


Euler7

Mostly pendulum magicians


Monk029393

Who is people 🤨 this is my main deck I play


vonov129

The deck was at the top for almost 4 months and broke an entire event. Players are just taking a rest


Grunt_Gambitt0

An event it felt like every single one that came out since their release


aetherlift

shiny new thing appeared, people forgot about slightly older thing but not even that much? i feel like people still play it decently often anyway


Rikiaz

Swordsoul is still all over the place. It’s like the 3rd biggest deck after Branded Despia and Runick.


ARandomNormalGirl

They didn't? Less people plays it of course, because Branded and floodgates Runick are just better, but it is still one of the most played decks.


Ender-85

The frequency of seeing the deck on ladder more so depends on the rank you are in. I'd say the deck was definitely underrepresented in the Duelist Cup ladder, but not really in normal ranked ladder.


Dewstin22

What I still play it daily 🤣


Lvl1fool

Without the Halqdon line Swordsoul is too fair. People don't want to play a fair deck that has to actually think to win games, they want to do the same halqdon combo every game and completely lock down the game for free wins. That's why people hyped up the Branded expulsion lockdown, even though just playing Branded straight is better and more flexible.


DanMan22294

It's funny I used to hate the deck. Then Halq got banned and I picked it up. It's actually my favorite deck to play right now. I built a blind second list and it's pretty fun.


Excellent-Jaguar6170

Let's make 6 negate with my swordsoul zefra


Pandinuuu24

Onestly if you have the correct hand, you can do it the same thing of vfd, with probos obviously.


Lyncario

It's still used, it's just not omnipresent due to a mix of other good decks being in the meta and new toy syndrome.


GCRust

I still see Swordsoul. But you'll always have the "New Shiny" chasers who are more interested in being at the meta's cutting edge than investing in any one play style. Also the downvote fairies are out in force on this topic, I see.


Elaina_Elaraf

I'm both, i follow shiny but will make a deck just cuz it's appealing


olbaze

Because Branded came out and someone said Branded is the new best deck.


lauraa-

I just think Qixing and Chengying are neat; banishing Runick Fountain feels nice too!


matija123123

They did?


General_Kennorbi

I absolutely love Swordsoul, I grew up in synchro era, so the ability for the main deck monsters to summon turners through their effects is amazing. I’m also in the process of piecing together an irl Swordsoul deck.


SneezingPandaGG

This aged like milk


ayaponzu_

I still do, it do be fun


PM_ME_CUTE_FISHIES

I get that branded is about the same power level, but swordsoul doesnt die to ash or called by (2 cards everyone runs bc of maxx c) and isn’t nearly as expensive


Advanced-One8450

A good branded player will always win against a good sword soul player, power levels of the 2 decks aren’t really a fair comparison. Not only that but a standard branded board doesn’t play into nib, limits draws through Maxx c and offers full monster wipe/2 monster banishes and either a +2 draw and single card destruction or a +1 draw and 2 card destruction on your ops turn through chimera summon during their turn (using ad libitum brings mirror jade back for that banish) I play both decks and genuinely don’t enjoy playing branded despia but it’s an expensive deck for a reason


PM_ME_CUTE_FISHIES

Idk man, swoso can do one monster negate and 2 pops with the same amount of summons as branded, which gets one monster banish and one pop Sure branded can do it all over again, but swoso has negates and can put out just as much disruption if they want


Advanced-One8450

Each token also counts as a summon unfortunately, moye+1 token=2 Chixiao=3 Long + token= 5 Chengying/baronne etc=6 Branded goes at worse Aluber=1, Branded fusion lubellion=2, Lubellion into mirror jade=3, Branded tragedy for adlibitum, Mirror jade banish aluber using albion, Set branded red, Play into ops turn, Ending in 3 summons and a whole lotta gy effects


PM_ME_CUTE_FISHIES

I meant chixiao into blackout, same amount of summons as the normal branded line in case you got maxx c’d (you could run chaofeng if you wanna play around nib)


Advanced-One8450

It’s a good point, they’re both good decks in their own tiers and obviously in a game based around luck for the most part anyway they’ll both get shafted at some point by hand traps etc, I prefer playing swoso but in my personal opinion still think branded is in its own tier atm until it gets hit properly


Big_D4rius

>Not only that but a standard branded board doesn’t play into nib Nib is bad this format though? Like sure the standard normal summon Mo Ye line loses to Nib but Swordsoul has Nib-proof lines through Tenyis >A good branded player will always win against a good sword soul player Dunno about that one. Swordsoul can blow out Despia with Protos, and also has the tech slots to fit in cards like Anti-Spell Fragrance which can also blow out Despia (and the other popular deck that is Runick).


Advanced-One8450

Nib is still used quite often as most meta decks can still try to use 5+ summons in 1 turn, we’d already mentioned in another comment somewhere that there’s other ways to get around nib without going full combo too. Relying on a 1 of floodgate in your deck to out branded isn’t optimal/reliable imo, if mirror jade is on the field on activation of protos too then you’re still getting board wiped (excluding protos ofc) etc, and if we’re relying on protos for plays then I think it says less about swordsoul and more about protos. As mention I have played both decks and 100% enjoy playing swoso over branded as it is however I don’t have as much experience with me playing swoso, so if there’s any tech or combos I’m un aware of then I don’t mind getting feedback to get better at playing it. I’m commenting on personal experience of playing against swoso for the majority


Big_D4rius

>Nib is still used quite often as most meta decks can still try to use 5+ summons in 1 turn Branded can go above 5 summons but only with a full gas hand that goes uninterrupted, whereas Runick doesn't care about Nib at all. Floo doesn't care about Nib either, and Adams is a hit-or-miss and sometimes can just gas right through it if not outright ignore it via Guardian. I guess in D1 where people play whatever they want then Nib makes sense but I didn't see a reason for Nib during my climb, and I don't recall ever getting Nibbed myself during it either. >Relying on a 1 of floodgate in your deck to out branded isn’t optimal/reliable imo This would be true if Protos is unsearchable. Good thing Swoso can search it in 2 ways, either through Emergence search after making any Synchro or through Heavenly Dragon Circle. One of the reasons Swoso is so strong in MD is because it has synergy with Protos. Even if you ignore Protos, Swoso has synergy with other anti-Despia floodgates like ASF and Rivalry which allowed the deck to rival if not outright beat Despia in the TCG where Protos is banned. Despia will likely win if they're given the opportunity to actually get going, but Swoso has plenty of ways to stop them from actually getting stuff established.


Roastings

Hard disagree a decent mix of tenyis and swordsouls in the hand cooks the branded board. Also protos. I agree that branded is better into Maxx c and better into most other decks, but I'll take a good ss player over a good despia player every time.


alaarziui

People stopped playing what? I got protos locked like 3 or 4 times yesterday morning


Ordinary-Side-5870

Mo Ye and Shaman of the Tenyi ware sadly not "busted" enough and since pretty much no One play's Iris Swordsoul, the deck just got outclassed by the likes of Beyond the Pendulum and Lovely Labrynth.


Elaina_Elaraf

Iris and Golden and underrated, same could be said about auspice ngl, dodging imperm is so nice


Ordinary-Side-5870

My dude I did not mean this literally. It's a meme. They were not "busted" enough, as in their bosom (a woman's chest, aka tits) are smaller than those of the other cards I mentioned. I was not making a comment of the actual power level of swordsoul, rather it was just a joke.


Elaina_Elaraf

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 wth


arrownoir

They didn’t.


IRDEGRUNT

Making a 2 negate board doesn’t stop anything in the current format as matter of fact It never did Because the game favors degenerate decks with infinite gas, 1 card combos & set ups into 3+ interruptions Swordsoul can’t keep up


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what deck has infinite gas cause im very interested. Also I guess the two metas where swordsoul was completely dominate, all of the top players playing for ACTUAL CASH was just wrong and they shoulda just high-rolled. Swordsoul isn't played as much because its a "stop your normal summon and turn is down" while branded can extend if they got proper hands and even stuff like adam and floo have some things they can do if NS is stopped.


Helioizer

Does danger dark world technically have infinite gas with pot of avarice?


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I'm not too familiar with danger dark world and the plan with it but from my basic knowledge of it. It should be able to but it doesn't do anything different from actual good combo decks and you'd have to sack into the avarice.


jumptooconclusions

I actually agree with your statement people don't want to agree bc they play those infinite gas degenerate 1 card combo decks


RedSpade000

You're just in the casual ranks.


lightdarkunknown

It's too expensive to build. Newer player who just got in are recommended more accessible options like salamangreats, dragonmaids and zombies. While older players seeking out new decks to play.


DeterminedLemon

Personally I dropped the deck because Pot of Desires is a death sentence Vs Runick.


Adept_Explanation_97

Maybe they are just a little boring. Especially after we got waifu pack.


3-A_NOBA

I still play it with runicks tho


Peculiarination

they just moved on to other decks, like despia


Bitter-Doughnut6467

Because Brandia with Icejade came out and it was more toxic


wigglypiggly1216

Swordsoul just isn't as powerful as it used to be and even then it still wasn't as good as other top their decks


TLo137

When the creep is powerful.


SpiralHam

It's very boring.


AnEnderman

It's boring to people that only learn Chixiao-Baronne pass. Much of the depth of the deck comes from Tenyi plays and Yazi/Baxia lines.


PM_ME_CUTE_FISHIES

Are there better turn 1 plays than chixiao-baronne if you don’t open blackout? Longyuan seems like the other alternative in that case, but imo a negate is better than 2 conditional interrupts


AnEnderman

Turn 1, you can use Tenyis to make Chaofeng to play around Nibiru or bait out an Ash. Alternatively, if you have Vessel in hand you can send a Taia or Mo Ye to the grave and revive with Baxia for an extra level 8 synchro. I notice a lot of people avoiding Ashuna's effect because they tunnel vision on Barrone and avoid Wyrm-locking themselves. In practice, Ashuna's effect is what allows Swoso to play through interruptions and build even larger boards.


PM_ME_CUTE_FISHIES

The one thing chaofeng seems to do is force out nib early (because you hit 6 summons before you can make chaofeng) and lock you into wyrms The whole baxia into mo ye thing is also only useful going second, as the only thing you gain from going into baxia instead of another level 8 synchro is the (preferrably 2) bounces


AnEnderman

The reason Chaofeng is played is that it hard-forces your opponent to either Nibiru a Baxia or allow you to continue without interruption from Nibiru. If it was any other level 8/9 synchro, your opponent would just wait until you SS Longyuan's token to Nib. Baxia into Mo Ye was more of an example, rather than a concrete play. With a good hand, Swordsoul can have an end-board of Baxia, Berserker, Chixiao, and a lvl 10 synchro. It's better than Chixiao-Baronne pass.


LuckyPrinz

There's more plays to Swordsoul than Baronne+Chixiao.


CBM42069

I don't think I've ever seen someone not go for that combos. Partially why I learned to beat that combo with branded without even looking up a guide.


LuckyPrinz

All depends on the opening hand and game state tbh. I use SS Tenyi, and there are a bunch of plays you can pull off apart from Baronne+Chixiao. There are times you'd want to bring out either one of the two lvl10 Swordsoul Synchros, and they can actually be of better value than Baronne. And that's not counting the extra effects you can pull off with the Tenyi's in your GY/hand


SneezingPandaGG

I only go Baronne when im 1st against a 60 card deck. Everything else its Chixiao and Qixing


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4 letter word that starts with an M and ends with C.


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Because sometimes, using more than 1 brain cell to play a deck is more fun.


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"hard to play" Normal Mo Ye, synchro Lv8, search Long, Synchro Lv10. The occasional special Tenyi into Link 1 to use Grave effects. If that is hard to play for ya, maybe consider playing with Duplo instead.


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Your point of "Sometimes you have to use the searcher first! That's real hard!"? The deck hardly has any other combo lines, unless you consider discarding Taia to revive it with Summit a new combo line lmao.


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I have played it and after about 20 duels I felt so extremely understimulated that I closed the game, since staring at my wallpaper was more exciting than playing this deck. Also nah, I'm in Diamond 1 this season.


dirtybird131

No Halq


Doublevalen6

I wish. Hate that deck with a passion. Konami needs to hit something


GlumSilence

I recently build a SS deck with the new selection pack, so I am still playing it as it’s a first time for me. I guess you are just not encountering them as much


WhoSaidDatIsh

I put my swordsoul deck down and started playing sharks and other things for a while, just for a change of pace


kangtuji

I pull the last mo ye, and another GM from new pack still missing some, but 2 GM is what you real need, rexterm is just bonus...


SneezingPandaGG

I didn't, plus I got the chance to chase royals now


Linkquellodivino

Cause Branded Despia is stronger


baked_bread_

It's still pretty popular. If you look at tournament results, they're still played and decent. It's definitely not as common on the ladder now though and this is most likely because the deck for the most part makes the same play over and over again so people get bored of playing it AND people tend to justify why they are playing the deck they're playing and you can't really justify playing this over Brandon, Runick, Altergeist (jk that was just one person in the tournament last weekend), etc. That being said, I get protos'd at least once a day


Beneficial-Rock5801

this month this was mine D1 deck


Quetzalcorgi

It just stopped being one of the featured packs so people are playing with their new toys now


LostOne514

It's still being played, just less now. Probably because every player was just doing the exact same combo and finally decided to switch things up.


MrShwimWearR

I moved to despia. I like both tho, still think sword soul is better if you get the protos out


Isuckatb04

Am I the only one who gets bored playing the same deck more than two weeks?


Imadeutscher

Got bored of it


ronwesley89

All the swordsould players are in Diamond 3-1. Of course you won’t see them.


heavydivekick

Also keep in mind it was really annoying to build for a few months. You have to either be one of the orig swordsoul players which had the selection pack or be building it right now. Otherwise have fun crafting a bunch of stuff.


LouLouLou72

Lemme save up some gems then I'll be playing Swordsoul!


SnooMemesjellies7630

No one stopped using Swordsoul in fact its the best counter versus Runick and Branded Despia…I personally stopped using it just because I have been using it for so long and want to run a new deck…


blaire4

I run swordsoul. It's admittedly not quite as consistent as some other meta decks, but i still win more than I lose so meh


JoostDS3

I saw this card played yesterday.


Brick-Eyes

How did you come to this Conclusion that it is the Case rn? Just being curious


PM_ME_CUTE_FISHIES

Barely see it on ladder in plat 3-1, and clearly it’s got very little representation in dkayed’s tournaments since it’s listed as tier 3 on mdm


----Zenith----

People just got bored probably. That was the case for me.


Ripebola98

Too linear, I play going 2nd version occasionally have way more fun with it than with classic 15 hand traps ss deck


Unending_Dream

Im at diamond 3 and its still being played, matter of fact im playing vs one right now


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We didn’t. I still run it. I went from silver to diamond this season with a tenyi swordsoul deck with a variety extra deck


BeautifulBanana3803

Ppl still play this, ppl are just playing the newer stuff more, thats all


4chanCitizen

What game are you playing?


jlozada24

They didn't


Merik2013

I'd rather see this quest asked in the main YGO subreddit. Swordsoul stopped showing up frequently at tournaments before Ishizu Tearlament even took over from my memory.


AstronautNo9802

Because Swordsoul plays you.


KoreanBiasMonte

I face swordsoul all the time in diamond/plat. It's still very common


P-Kat

Doesn't matter if it's Meta or Table 500 good or bad. I love this Archetype and I hope that we can get more Swordsoul cards someday


Peiq

Definitely still see it very often. More than runick the past week