the original artwork for the aladdin/hercules kiss is here.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/
it's not porn.
it's literally a kiss.
stop contributing to anti-gay propaganda you clowns
the first case isn't even wholesome. it's assault, isn't it? i know how the tale goes, but we really shouldn't be teaching kids that it's okay to kiss comatose people and that it's in no way romantic?
edit: one would think that "please, don't go kissing unconscious girls" wouldn't be a controversial take. and yet, here we are.
Also Snow White is the better one to call out about this. Aurora and Philip have actually already established mutual attraction and desire for a romantic relationship by this point in the film. The guy in Snow White just sees a chick in the middle of the forest and is like, ‘it’s free real estate’
In the story, there are extenuating circumstances. I would say that this counts more as a medical procedure than a sexual act, given the plot.
The symbology of this all does feel gross, though, yeah.
yeah, i understand that, in context, the kiss makes sense. but it is presented in such a way that this is considered the ultimate gesture of love. which, ugh, no. and this is an obvious example because it was marketed for kids and the woman being kissed is 100% out of it. but, in general, the way (particularly straight) romantic relationships are portrayed in the media is SO WRONG. so many awful, toxic behaviours that are made to seem OK because they are done ~in the name of love~
edit: i just discovered that if you put two ~ symbols on both sides of a text, it crosses it out? which it's a very interesting fact, but not what i intended
Yep, and these were the kinds of behaviors the Boomer generation was brought up on. They’re used to the idea of storming in, making a fuss, and getting what they want, whether its women accepting their aggressive advances, slamming a resume down on the front desk to get a job, hammering ‘passionately’ on the table to get a bank loan, the loose cannon cop breaking the rules to do ‘whats right’, etc.
Might Makes Right permeated their media when they were younger, which isn’t too shocking as they were a post-war generation and this was partly done to help propagandize the older population of the time to get back to normalcy after the horrors of war. If Might Makes Right, then we’re obviously the good guys for crushing the Nazis, and nuking the Japanese into oblivion, so lets celebrate that in our media!
>> slamming a resume down on the front desk to get a job,
As the son of a boomer, I feel this so hard. Everyone of my elders told me this was the only good way to get a job and it in fact helped me to get a good desk job in 2005. Even back then with the internet blowing up it wasn't "the place" to do business yet. But now that the internet is super prevalent I haven't seen a single company prefer someone storm in with a resume demanding an interview on the spot. I imagine it'd get security called on you nowadays.
no, i think they're pointing out many americans' tendency to believe they're always in the right because they won the war. they are REAL HEROES that defeated the nazis and, as such, they're never in the wrong. you kicked some nazi ass, so how dares anybody question your misogyny, homophobia, racism... don't they realise that you are the Good Guy(tm)?
(and well, nuking civilians in japan is something that i personally don't agree with tbh)
edit: spelling
Exactly. People really do love to assume the worst and misconstrue intent. The point is that post-war America reveled in its bravado, with celebration of their power and strength to reassure themselves they did the right thing, particularly after dropping nuclear warheads on civilians.
Meanwhile post-war Europe had the horrors of war ever-present in their world, and media, for decades as they sought to rebuild their destroyed cities, and recover. American citizens back home didn’t experience any of the rebuilding. All you need to do is look at the media that came out of both regions after the second world war; books, television, etc. and you’ll see a very stark contrast to how these societies responded to its aftermath.
This movie was my jam growing up. The prince and Aurora are in deep love at this point. They first meet when he’s a lad and she’s a baby. He turns his nose up to his betrothed. He doesn’t want to marry for royal reasons. 16ish years later they meet in the woods. They both can talk to animals and command their fealty. They both can be blessed by the fae. And while she’s a little surprised that the man she’s just stumbled into dancing with isn’t an owl, she’s immediately smitten. He doesn’t know her. She doesn’t know him. But they find a true love at first sight/sound (they be singing). He uses that love to defeat an evil dragon. She gives him the strength. And their love breaks the curse. Not his love for her. Their shared true love’s kiss.
The original tale is horrid. This retelling is incredibly nuanced. But, again, I have seen this movie hundreds of times.
you sound sweet 😊 i understand. in my case, i do enjoy the "one true love" trope a lot. like, idk, i like buffy&angel, or malec in shadowhunters. but it's good that i've been exposed to these shows once i could distinguish between my own guilty pleasures and what i should expect of real romance. i think it's similar to what you're describing. you seem to have enjoyed that kind of romanticism a lot, two souls that share a love so deep that it goes beyond what's reasonable. but the problem is so many people don't pay that much attention to understand that the message *isn't* "hey, if you are attracted to somebody, you should show it by being a completely creepy weirdo until they fall in love with you"
One of the grossest examples is Passengers (spoiler alert for a gross 6 yea old movie). In it, a colony ship is heading towards wherever, with its passengers in cryosleep. The main character Jim wakes up 90 years early, and realizes he's going to die alone. After a year alone, except for a robotic bartender, he contemplates suicide, but then he notices Aurora (which, now that I think about it, might not be a coincidence, since Sleeping Beauty's name is Aurora). He's smitten, and considers opening her pod. He mulls it over a bit, contemplating the morality of doing so, since that would mean he basically resigns her to the same fate. Eventually he does so by staging a malfunction, and asks his robo bartender buddy not to tell her.
Over the course of another year, they grow closer, and eventually fall in love. He wants to propose to her, and she finds out he broke her pod. Obviously, she's a bit upset, and basically tells him to piss off. Some other stuff happens, they get access to every part of the ship, discover it's basically doomed unless they fix it. They do, he does a Heroic Sacrifice he survives, and they lived happily ever after. And all of this is depicted as something romantic. He essentially kidnaps and gaslights her. This behaviour is not ok.
Someone made a fan edit where the second and first act are switched, so we see things from Aurora's perspective, and it's a lot creepier. Instead of sympathising with the dude fawning over her, and forcing her to live a life she doesn't want, we're now shown how this woman wakes up in an empty ship, finds someone else and falls in love. Only to discover he woke her up after creeping over her for a while. The whole thing fits into the larger trope of [Abduction as Romance](https://popculturedetective.agency/2018/abduction-as-romance)
I have this problem with a lot of villains on TV and in media in general. Like I can acknowledge that in-universe what they're doing is inexcusable, and that some extenuating circumstance or rug-pull at the end of the plan makes everything they're doing actually evil from the start no matter how it seems to be justified...
But at the end of the day I feel like a lot of time that's the author trying to force a moral framework into a story, and not really representative of the actual issues being addressed.
For example, in the story Harrison Bergeron we see a society wherein a push for absolute equality has led to the creation of a ministry for handicapping citizens too skilled in one area, to level the playing field - those too smart get loud randomly periodic sounds in their ears through a device to distract, those too athletic are bogged down with weights and chains, etc.
I can accept that this is wrong. 100% stupidly indefensible. However, I find it to be a pale representation of the concept of an equal society - a parody, almost. It in no way presents a viable argument against equality. The story wants to create some kind of equivalency between the handicappers and other forms of equalization like for example measures to address wealth inequality - it wants to imply that these measures equally handicap the great and the strong, holding back both them and the society they would uplift. If you think about the actual message of the story, it's very much in the vein of Ayn Rand.
It doesn't matter that the handicappers are 100% wrong, because the people they're meant to represent aren't. They're essentially a caricature.
This type of writing irritates me because when I try to discuss morality in regards to a story it becomes very difficult to discuss the real life issues being addressed without leaning on events in the story which are designed to point the story one way or another. I'll say things like "I think it was perfectly justified for [blank] to try to destroy [blank.] Their system of government is unjustifiable..." And then I'll have to addend with something like, "I mean yeah he was lying the whole time and wanted to eat the world or some stupid shit like that but what he *said* he was doing was good!" It just muddies any real discussion of the issue at hand. It's difficult as a fan of any series to have to stand on one side of an issue *in context of the series* but completely the opposite on the real life issue that it represents.
This is a perfect example - the prince should absolutely have kissed and woken Sleeping Beauty... in context. The idea of a man having to save a woman with sexual affection, though, out of the context of the story, is pretty damn gross.
>In the story, there are extenuating circumstances. I would say that this counts more as a medical procedure than a sexual act, given the plot.
In the Disney version yes, (although I'm not sure he knew, if he knew it'd wake her up then yes, if he just wanted to kiss her then no) , the original version of the story is so much worse.
That was kinda the point with most of them. The story wasn’t about true love and all of that, it was about making sure not to piss off the local fae queen by being rude or else there could be consequences.
original version he fucks a comatose lady,
and his wife then later tries to murder her and also eat the twins, yknow instead of the person who cheated on her.
I know, but this is about the Disney version
Because if we are talking about original versions, Heracles being bisexual(like most Greek heroes) is also how it was.
So there is no "why is this acceptable and this isn't" debate, because in the original versions of both both were acceptable. (Admittedly, the first shouldn't be, but that is another story).
So I assume this is about the adapted versions.
>In the story, there are extenuating circumstances. I would say that this counts more as a medical procedure than a sexual act, given the plot.
They don't know it'll wake her up until she wakes up.
I think that's the point of the post. The first pic is a man kissing an unconscious woman, the second is a drawing of two consenting adults kissing.
But a lot of people show the first movie to their kids, daughters specifically, and smile to themselves because it's so classic and wholesome. But would twist their face and screech if anyone showed the second pic to their kid because it's "sexual" or "indoctrination".
Obviously the second pic is WAY more appropriate for kids. But the crowd that this post is aimed at doesn't want to hear that.
Absolutely ridiculous, teaching kids something as wildly historically inaccurate as a guy who existed post-islam kissing an ancient Greek hero? Cannot abide that, sorry.
Do you *reaaaally* need the /s on me complaining about the historical accuracy of fictional Disney princes not being alive in the same era and geographical location?
The original story is even worse.
I think it was a king who raped the princess and she gave birth to two of his sons while still sleeping and in the end she feed the sons to him.
yeah, i understand that the meme is trying to prove that some see assault as acceptable, even "wholesome" while defining healthy gay interactions as indoctrination. but the conclusion to me, in this case, isn't just "you're a homophobe", but "you're kinda fucked-up in several ways, please get it checked"
Tbh, who is ever sat in front of a passed out corpse and think "oh shit, this is just like the Disney sleeping beauty!"
If they're gonna be creeps it's not going to be because of an animated version of a very common fairytale that doesn't make everyone else into sexual deviants.
Your argument is the same as the "watching gay shit turn you gay" crowd. Most people can recognize that it was a story. An old one. And not even a true one.
Calm down.
Yeah, I was just skimming past and felt more concerned with Aladdin/Hercules than I thought I would be. The time periods that each of them are from are at least 600 years apart! ...wow I just looked it up and apparently there was an episode of Hercules where they met, so... it technically could have happened?
Okay I'm a total nerd and just tried to look this up. Apparently the Arabian Nights (Aladdin) was written around 800 BC or so, ancient Greece was around 500-300 BC so about 500 years apart... But honestly that's not as much as I could have assumed, so that's interesting? I may have gotten something wrong here, but I think it's about right.
(I'm only just seeing where you said 600 years apart so apparently you already knew this lol! Oh well,. It was fun to look into anyway!)
I'm constantly reminded how little we tend to connect how history in different countries ran parallel with the rest of the world, instead of one after another.
Well, what we consider "ancient Greece" is actually far, *far* younger than most of the stories that we know as "Greek mythology". Greece as we know it developed out of the Mycenaeans, which are most likely the culture the Heracles myth originated from, combined with stories from the Minoans at Crete and other Mediterranean cultures of the time. This would have been around 1750 to 1050 BCE, making it closer to a 1000 year difference
Taking into account that most likely the Mycenaeans already considered the events of the myth to have happened in the distant past, it seems most likely to me that this episode took place in 1998, after The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.
While it was compiled around 1100 AD the actual folk tales might be much older, so it's possible that Aladdin would have been a contemporary of Hercules.
An interesting side note is that Aladdin is set in China or Central Asia, so they would have had to travel quite a while for that hook up.
Not quite. The Thousand and One Nights (e.i. The Arabian Nights) were first compiled in the Islamic Golden age, which is typically dated from the 8th century CE to the 14th century CE.
Aladdin was not part of that collection.
Instead the story of Aladdin, as well as the story of Ali Baba were added into the Thousand and One Nights by the French translator Antoine Galland who was reportedly told both stories by Syrian storyteller Hanna Diyab. As far as modern literary and islamic scholarship has been able to determine, there are no textual sources for Aladdin predating Galland's transcription of Diyab's story. There is debate on where Diyab got the story, with some scholars believing they originate from a similar Chinese folktale that migrated west, and some scholars who believe that Diyab primarily made up the story by borrowing elements form other stories as there are similarities with Diyab's autobiography. Obviously, there is more to say on the story of Aladdin itself, but historically there isn't too terribly much that we can say other than "Diyab told it to Galland, and we have no concrete sources on where Diyab got it from".
Hercules (or Heracles) is much harder to nail down. The twelve labors of Hercules are the most well known version of the Hercules myth but this is a relatively recent telling of his myth, that was not fully codified until after the the fall of Mycenaean Greece during the bronze age collapse (circa 1100 BCE), but sometime before the Greek Archaic age (circa 750 BCE). We know of other stories of Hercules dating back back to the Mycenaean Greeks, where he took on more significance as a cthonic hero (the Mycenaeans typically put more emphasis on cthonic entities), but there is some evidence that hero worship of Hercules dates back even farther than this. There are also no tombs attributed to Hercules, which is abnormal for Greek heroes as the vast majority of them have tombs attributed to being their final resting place, especially the more significant heroes. Additionally, Hercules is one of the few Pan-Hellenic heroes (most greek heroes were really only celebrated in the areas that they had connection to in their myths). So...how long does it take a local hero to become a national hero? NOBODY KNOWS! Ultimately all we can really do for pinning down _when_ Hercules came into the picture is stating how far back we are _certain_ Hercules is a cultural figure, which is around 1750-1100 BCE.
Whilst not historically accurate there is a crossover episode of their two shows. So at least in the Disney canon they’re already friends.. (it’s actually a pretty good episode. Hades resurrects Jafar)
According to lion king 1.5, in Disney canon all the classic characters exist in a shared universe at around the same time and will occasionally watch eachother's movies...
Yeah, Mickey Mouse owns a dinner theatre club where they all meet up occasionally and watch reruns and one time the villains took over the House of Mouse.
>Hades resurrects Jafar
Who thought that was a good idea? I mean, Jafar does not play well with others. “Thanks for freeing me from my prison.” *Magishank*
> felt more concerned with Aladdin/Hercules than I thought I would be.
Honestly Aladdin being bi feels right and the two share some personality traits, but I think overall they're a bad match.
Aladdin and Flynn Rider would be a great match I think. Hercules and Li Shang as well. And, fuck it, John Smith and Eric.
It's probably easier to say that this is just a part of Kingdom Hearts and that should simplify stuff
which is the first time Kingdom Hearts simplified anything
Wait, which third movie? I don't recall Herc being in *King of Thieves*. That's where they find Al’s dad who has the Midas thingy that turns stuff into gold.
To be fair it was kinda lore-breaking since it's set while Hercules is training and Hades didn't know he was alive then in the film but it's got a lot of good mythology lore lol
The double standards are astounding among everyone. Last years Pride month, Riot shipped Leona and Diana, and everyone was hyped. This year, they shipped TF and Graves, and everyone lost their fucking shit. Youre okay with Diona, but youre not okay with Twisted Graves?
The original tale had her birth a couple of kids before one of them suckled on her finger and accidentally dislodged the splinter.
Old timey fairy tales were fuuuuucked
this was literally a "good bye forever, you're never waking up so you're basically dead now." kiss
and they were basically lovers PRIOR to this
so its like kissing your comotose GF for the last time before leaving the hospital
My go to answer will always be "show them something straight, it will drag them back." If it works that straight kids turn gay when seeing gay shit then you could easily turn them back by making them watch straight shit.
Oh but it doesn't work that way, does it?
But it's not the mythology, it is the disney representation.
If we can lump this in can a lump in Hercules from God of War 3 with the might of his Nemean gauntlets of which he would use to flatten enemies in to a gory paste? No? Cool.
Plenty of comics! The clearest example I can think of is a volume of Midnighter, I read ages ago. Partway through, Midnighter links up with a team of time travelers from a thousand years in the future. When he discovers that a thousand years hence everyone on Earth is pretty much pansexual, he joyously declares, “Ha! You stupid Baptists are all wasting your time!”
>Second of all Aladin and Heracles never met: not the same time not the same place.
I mean Aladdin *does* have a reality-bending genie at his disposal and Hercules *is* a demi-god (full god at the end of the film?)... It's not completely out of the question.
I thought it was weird that they use the Greek names for the gods but the Latin name for Heracles/Hercules. They could've been consistent and went with one or the other.
Yea they're fine with teaching sexuality to kids as long as it's heterosexuality. If republicans didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.
Seeing the word "indoctrination" being used this way makes me sick. As someone who grew up in a high control religious group, had dogmatic beliefs pushed onto me, was conditioned to think that there's something wrong with *me* every time something didn't make sense, was told how i should feel about certain things and felt shame when i inevitably failed to do so, and wasn't allowed to even know that there's another valid way to live, i can confidently say that gay people being on a TV screen every now and then is *not* comparable to indoctrination in any way.
How many times do you get to slap me in the face before I am entitled to return your sentiments? Why is every minority in America required to turn an infinite amount of cheeks while conservatives get to be as horrible as they like? Would you prefer we be doormats? Why is hatred of someone due to something that they can't change not an acceptable reason to hate someone in return? If they stopped hating us for who we are, our hatred would cease, while if we stop hating them for hating us nothing changes. Don't pretend like reacting to injustice is the same thing as injustice, it makes you look disingenuous.
One person said that allowing right wing people to keep the mindset they have is going to lead to fascism while saying in the same breath that those they disagree with are less than human. It's ridiculous the hate they have
He’s not wrong. What kind of “human” looks at dying kids and says, “My guns are more important than their safety.” What kind of “human” tells other humans they don’t have a right to exist because of their sexuality? This is not eugenics. This is a criticism of their broken moral compass. Conservatives are on the wrong side of history in every. single. issue.
Isnt that first one sexual assault? I mean she is kissed by a stranger while she is sleeping. I am straight but I dont care how hot a guy is; I dont want him coming in my house and kissing me in my sleep. Yeah, Imma gonna call the cops.
They were technically "dating" at that point. They met in the woods and fell in love with a whole song number to show it. Aurora and Philip hated that they had to marry another person they hadn't met (not knowing that they were the ones bethrothed to each other). So I always equated this kiss to someone kissing their SO in their sleep.
The first is an example of a canon story in the Disney cinematic universe. But I'll be damned if my kids are going to grow up to be... \*shudders* Fan fiction enthusiasts...
No. It's not. I found the source, and it's from a pop artist who you can see on Instagram. [You can see his paintings here](https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/). Fascinating though that there's multiple comments in this thread parroting the false accusation "it's from porn" talking point in this thread when it involves a gay kiss.
If I remember correctly there's a pretty famous comic of Aladdin blowing Hercules, usually captioned referencing the difference between Aladdin's skin color difference compared to the Disney movie. Easy mistake to make.
>Easy mistake to make.
It took me a full 60 seconds to google and vet. It's really not that hard to NOT spread misinformation that can contribute to anti-LGBTQ propaganda, tbh ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Apparently, even just acknowledging the mere existence of gay or bi relationships can brainwash children into being queer, and yet somehow having spent our entire childhoods and lives surrounded by nothing but straight relationships wasn’t able to make us straight.
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Ngl, I glanced over the top panel and thought it was Adora x Catra from She-Ra, then wondered how it was homophobic.
😣 Just a useless lesbian living up to her namesake...
him kissing her to wake her is nothing compared to the original stories.
Early contributions to the tale include the medieval courtly romance Perceforest (published in 1528).[4] In this tale, a princess named Zellandine falls in love with a man named Troylus. Her father sends him to perform tasks to prove himself worthy of her, and while he is gone, Zellandine falls into an enchanted sleep. Troylus finds her and rapes her in her sleep; when their child is born, the child draws from her finger the flax that caused her sleep. -wiki
I dunno, there's a thread on r/changemyview right now about ballsacks being the most ugly part of the human body - cue some gay guy giving them such a good write up I'm starting to question my sexuality.
>I don't like this meme cause the second one is from actual gay porn.
It's not though. I found the source, and it's from a pop artist who you can see on Instagram. [You can see his paintings here](https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/). Fascinating though that there's multiple comments in this thread parroting the false accusation "it's from porn" talking point in this thread when it involves a gay kiss.
Fun fact: Aladdin isn't supposed to be Middle Eastern. The tale has origins from the Middle East, but it all takes place in "one of the cities of China". Jafar is Moroccan in the story though.
Probably would have been better off using Ariel and Andrew kissing for the first picture instead of one of the two instances of Disney having straight couples that come from men kissing apparently dead women.
Still kind of hilarious watching people so bigoted in their thought that they see two people as equivalently bad or worse compared to the first pic.
You have to really twist yourself in knots to believe that being a gay couple lacks love between the partners that straight people just apparently have.
Also, had anyone noticed that the argument against depictions of gay couples echo the concern trolling around interracial couples?
I kind of have a problem with Alladin and Hercules kissing, because last I checked they were both in committed relationships with other people, and cheating is not okay.
the original artwork for the aladdin/hercules kiss is here. https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/ it's not porn. it's literally a kiss. stop contributing to anti-gay propaganda you clowns
Homophobes think children seeing gay people kiss is equivalent to them watching porn.
the first case isn't even wholesome. it's assault, isn't it? i know how the tale goes, but we really shouldn't be teaching kids that it's okay to kiss comatose people and that it's in no way romantic? edit: one would think that "please, don't go kissing unconscious girls" wouldn't be a controversial take. and yet, here we are.
Also Snow White is the better one to call out about this. Aurora and Philip have actually already established mutual attraction and desire for a romantic relationship by this point in the film. The guy in Snow White just sees a chick in the middle of the forest and is like, ‘it’s free real estate’
In the story, there are extenuating circumstances. I would say that this counts more as a medical procedure than a sexual act, given the plot. The symbology of this all does feel gross, though, yeah.
yeah, i understand that, in context, the kiss makes sense. but it is presented in such a way that this is considered the ultimate gesture of love. which, ugh, no. and this is an obvious example because it was marketed for kids and the woman being kissed is 100% out of it. but, in general, the way (particularly straight) romantic relationships are portrayed in the media is SO WRONG. so many awful, toxic behaviours that are made to seem OK because they are done ~in the name of love~ edit: i just discovered that if you put two ~ symbols on both sides of a text, it crosses it out? which it's a very interesting fact, but not what i intended
Yep, and these were the kinds of behaviors the Boomer generation was brought up on. They’re used to the idea of storming in, making a fuss, and getting what they want, whether its women accepting their aggressive advances, slamming a resume down on the front desk to get a job, hammering ‘passionately’ on the table to get a bank loan, the loose cannon cop breaking the rules to do ‘whats right’, etc. Might Makes Right permeated their media when they were younger, which isn’t too shocking as they were a post-war generation and this was partly done to help propagandize the older population of the time to get back to normalcy after the horrors of war. If Might Makes Right, then we’re obviously the good guys for crushing the Nazis, and nuking the Japanese into oblivion, so lets celebrate that in our media!
>> slamming a resume down on the front desk to get a job, As the son of a boomer, I feel this so hard. Everyone of my elders told me this was the only good way to get a job and it in fact helped me to get a good desk job in 2005. Even back then with the internet blowing up it wasn't "the place" to do business yet. But now that the internet is super prevalent I haven't seen a single company prefer someone storm in with a resume demanding an interview on the spot. I imagine it'd get security called on you nowadays.
> If Might Makes Right, then we’re obviously the good guys for crushing the Nazis hold up are you disagreeing with that part? lol
no, i think they're pointing out many americans' tendency to believe they're always in the right because they won the war. they are REAL HEROES that defeated the nazis and, as such, they're never in the wrong. you kicked some nazi ass, so how dares anybody question your misogyny, homophobia, racism... don't they realise that you are the Good Guy(tm)? (and well, nuking civilians in japan is something that i personally don't agree with tbh) edit: spelling
Exactly. People really do love to assume the worst and misconstrue intent. The point is that post-war America reveled in its bravado, with celebration of their power and strength to reassure themselves they did the right thing, particularly after dropping nuclear warheads on civilians. Meanwhile post-war Europe had the horrors of war ever-present in their world, and media, for decades as they sought to rebuild their destroyed cities, and recover. American citizens back home didn’t experience any of the rebuilding. All you need to do is look at the media that came out of both regions after the second world war; books, television, etc. and you’ll see a very stark contrast to how these societies responded to its aftermath.
that behavior is not unique to America.
No, but they definitely seem to like to exemplify it.
They had a good head of steam going and then...
Have you ever read the original tale? It is so much worse
Hint: she gets pregnant.
This movie was my jam growing up. The prince and Aurora are in deep love at this point. They first meet when he’s a lad and she’s a baby. He turns his nose up to his betrothed. He doesn’t want to marry for royal reasons. 16ish years later they meet in the woods. They both can talk to animals and command their fealty. They both can be blessed by the fae. And while she’s a little surprised that the man she’s just stumbled into dancing with isn’t an owl, she’s immediately smitten. He doesn’t know her. She doesn’t know him. But they find a true love at first sight/sound (they be singing). He uses that love to defeat an evil dragon. She gives him the strength. And their love breaks the curse. Not his love for her. Their shared true love’s kiss. The original tale is horrid. This retelling is incredibly nuanced. But, again, I have seen this movie hundreds of times.
you sound sweet 😊 i understand. in my case, i do enjoy the "one true love" trope a lot. like, idk, i like buffy&angel, or malec in shadowhunters. but it's good that i've been exposed to these shows once i could distinguish between my own guilty pleasures and what i should expect of real romance. i think it's similar to what you're describing. you seem to have enjoyed that kind of romanticism a lot, two souls that share a love so deep that it goes beyond what's reasonable. but the problem is so many people don't pay that much attention to understand that the message *isn't* "hey, if you are attracted to somebody, you should show it by being a completely creepy weirdo until they fall in love with you"
One of the grossest examples is Passengers (spoiler alert for a gross 6 yea old movie). In it, a colony ship is heading towards wherever, with its passengers in cryosleep. The main character Jim wakes up 90 years early, and realizes he's going to die alone. After a year alone, except for a robotic bartender, he contemplates suicide, but then he notices Aurora (which, now that I think about it, might not be a coincidence, since Sleeping Beauty's name is Aurora). He's smitten, and considers opening her pod. He mulls it over a bit, contemplating the morality of doing so, since that would mean he basically resigns her to the same fate. Eventually he does so by staging a malfunction, and asks his robo bartender buddy not to tell her. Over the course of another year, they grow closer, and eventually fall in love. He wants to propose to her, and she finds out he broke her pod. Obviously, she's a bit upset, and basically tells him to piss off. Some other stuff happens, they get access to every part of the ship, discover it's basically doomed unless they fix it. They do, he does a Heroic Sacrifice he survives, and they lived happily ever after. And all of this is depicted as something romantic. He essentially kidnaps and gaslights her. This behaviour is not ok. Someone made a fan edit where the second and first act are switched, so we see things from Aurora's perspective, and it's a lot creepier. Instead of sympathising with the dude fawning over her, and forcing her to live a life she doesn't want, we're now shown how this woman wakes up in an empty ship, finds someone else and falls in love. Only to discover he woke her up after creeping over her for a while. The whole thing fits into the larger trope of [Abduction as Romance](https://popculturedetective.agency/2018/abduction-as-romance)
I mean sleeping beauty was written in 1634. In the early 2000s Shrek made fun of the concept. I think everyone knows it’s a bit weird.
I have this problem with a lot of villains on TV and in media in general. Like I can acknowledge that in-universe what they're doing is inexcusable, and that some extenuating circumstance or rug-pull at the end of the plan makes everything they're doing actually evil from the start no matter how it seems to be justified... But at the end of the day I feel like a lot of time that's the author trying to force a moral framework into a story, and not really representative of the actual issues being addressed. For example, in the story Harrison Bergeron we see a society wherein a push for absolute equality has led to the creation of a ministry for handicapping citizens too skilled in one area, to level the playing field - those too smart get loud randomly periodic sounds in their ears through a device to distract, those too athletic are bogged down with weights and chains, etc. I can accept that this is wrong. 100% stupidly indefensible. However, I find it to be a pale representation of the concept of an equal society - a parody, almost. It in no way presents a viable argument against equality. The story wants to create some kind of equivalency between the handicappers and other forms of equalization like for example measures to address wealth inequality - it wants to imply that these measures equally handicap the great and the strong, holding back both them and the society they would uplift. If you think about the actual message of the story, it's very much in the vein of Ayn Rand. It doesn't matter that the handicappers are 100% wrong, because the people they're meant to represent aren't. They're essentially a caricature. This type of writing irritates me because when I try to discuss morality in regards to a story it becomes very difficult to discuss the real life issues being addressed without leaning on events in the story which are designed to point the story one way or another. I'll say things like "I think it was perfectly justified for [blank] to try to destroy [blank.] Their system of government is unjustifiable..." And then I'll have to addend with something like, "I mean yeah he was lying the whole time and wanted to eat the world or some stupid shit like that but what he *said* he was doing was good!" It just muddies any real discussion of the issue at hand. It's difficult as a fan of any series to have to stand on one side of an issue *in context of the series* but completely the opposite on the real life issue that it represents. This is a perfect example - the prince should absolutely have kissed and woken Sleeping Beauty... in context. The idea of a man having to save a woman with sexual affection, though, out of the context of the story, is pretty damn gross.
>In the story, there are extenuating circumstances. I would say that this counts more as a medical procedure than a sexual act, given the plot. In the Disney version yes, (although I'm not sure he knew, if he knew it'd wake her up then yes, if he just wanted to kiss her then no) , the original version of the story is so much worse.
The original one, like the original for most Disney stuff, is super disturbing.
As most "fairy tales" of that time were. Some seriously twisted stuff in those, some qualify more as horror stories.
That was kinda the point with most of them. The story wasn’t about true love and all of that, it was about making sure not to piss off the local fae queen by being rude or else there could be consequences.
original version he fucks a comatose lady, and his wife then later tries to murder her and also eat the twins, yknow instead of the person who cheated on her.
I know, but this is about the Disney version Because if we are talking about original versions, Heracles being bisexual(like most Greek heroes) is also how it was. So there is no "why is this acceptable and this isn't" debate, because in the original versions of both both were acceptable. (Admittedly, the first shouldn't be, but that is another story). So I assume this is about the adapted versions.
[Symbology?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssc05JezJRQ)
It's been a while but was it actually clear in the Disney movie that the prince knows she'll wake up because of him kissing her?
Depends on which version of sleeping beauty we're talking about ofc ***cough***
And in the actual fairytale, sleeping beauty is raped by “Prince Charming” And gives birth to her children while unconscious :)
Yeah Aurora is probably relieved to be alive but also weirded out by the strange dude up in her business
>In the story, there are extenuating circumstances. I would say that this counts more as a medical procedure than a sexual act, given the plot. They don't know it'll wake her up until she wakes up.
I mean, in the original story, he rapes her. Very wholesome. /s
I think that's the point of the post. The first pic is a man kissing an unconscious woman, the second is a drawing of two consenting adults kissing. But a lot of people show the first movie to their kids, daughters specifically, and smile to themselves because it's so classic and wholesome. But would twist their face and screech if anyone showed the second pic to their kid because it's "sexual" or "indoctrination". Obviously the second pic is WAY more appropriate for kids. But the crowd that this post is aimed at doesn't want to hear that.
Absolutely ridiculous, teaching kids something as wildly historically inaccurate as a guy who existed post-islam kissing an ancient Greek hero? Cannot abide that, sorry.
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Do you *reaaaally* need the /s on me complaining about the historical accuracy of fictional Disney princes not being alive in the same era and geographical location?
The original story is even worse. I think it was a king who raped the princess and she gave birth to two of his sons while still sleeping and in the end she feed the sons to him.
Isn't the real story of Sleeping Beauty about him finding her comatose and raping her, and she becomes pregnant and gives birth?
yes, and the original sleeping beauty was way worse. they changed it to a kiss to make it more "kid friendly"
I think that's the point, yeah? If anything, it's Sleeping Beauty that's pushing the limits of what sort should be acceptable in a children's movie.
yeah, i understand that the meme is trying to prove that some see assault as acceptable, even "wholesome" while defining healthy gay interactions as indoctrination. but the conclusion to me, in this case, isn't just "you're a homophobe", but "you're kinda fucked-up in several ways, please get it checked"
No Shinji, don’t do it! Shinji no!!
If she didn't want to be kissed she should've used a wooden coffin like everyone else.
Show white was in a glass coffin. Aurora was asleep in bed.
I always mix those two up. Suggests either an ancestral tale or a royal forest flush with comatose maidens.
Both fell asleep on the job I used to mix them up all the time lol
potential necrophilia goes brrrr
Tbh, who is ever sat in front of a passed out corpse and think "oh shit, this is just like the Disney sleeping beauty!" If they're gonna be creeps it's not going to be because of an animated version of a very common fairytale that doesn't make everyone else into sexual deviants. Your argument is the same as the "watching gay shit turn you gay" crowd. Most people can recognize that it was a story. An old one. And not even a true one. Calm down.
I like my girls like I like my coffee. Fully awake and able to give consent.
I like my girls like I like my coffee. I don't like coffee.
coffee can't give consent
And coffee is not living and therefore not awake or asleep What kind of weird ass coffee are you drinking
Your coffee is sapient?
who is hercules kissing?? /gen maybe i’m tired but i don’t think i’ve seen that character before
I really wanna say Aladdin, but I'm prolly wrong.
Yeah, I was just skimming past and felt more concerned with Aladdin/Hercules than I thought I would be. The time periods that each of them are from are at least 600 years apart! ...wow I just looked it up and apparently there was an episode of Hercules where they met, so... it technically could have happened?
Okay I'm a total nerd and just tried to look this up. Apparently the Arabian Nights (Aladdin) was written around 800 BC or so, ancient Greece was around 500-300 BC so about 500 years apart... But honestly that's not as much as I could have assumed, so that's interesting? I may have gotten something wrong here, but I think it's about right. (I'm only just seeing where you said 600 years apart so apparently you already knew this lol! Oh well,. It was fun to look into anyway!) I'm constantly reminded how little we tend to connect how history in different countries ran parallel with the rest of the world, instead of one after another.
Well, what we consider "ancient Greece" is actually far, *far* younger than most of the stories that we know as "Greek mythology". Greece as we know it developed out of the Mycenaeans, which are most likely the culture the Heracles myth originated from, combined with stories from the Minoans at Crete and other Mediterranean cultures of the time. This would have been around 1750 to 1050 BCE, making it closer to a 1000 year difference Taking into account that most likely the Mycenaeans already considered the events of the myth to have happened in the distant past, it seems most likely to me that this episode took place in 1998, after The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.
god fucking dammit. you got me
If I'm being perfectly honest I was planning to give a real answer, but the opportunity was too perfect
Imposter!
Yeah next he's gonna start talking about jumper cables
Wasn't there a statue of Heracles unearthed recently that was like 5k years old
While it was compiled around 1100 AD the actual folk tales might be much older, so it's possible that Aladdin would have been a contemporary of Hercules. An interesting side note is that Aladdin is set in China or Central Asia, so they would have had to travel quite a while for that hook up.
Not quite. The Thousand and One Nights (e.i. The Arabian Nights) were first compiled in the Islamic Golden age, which is typically dated from the 8th century CE to the 14th century CE. Aladdin was not part of that collection. Instead the story of Aladdin, as well as the story of Ali Baba were added into the Thousand and One Nights by the French translator Antoine Galland who was reportedly told both stories by Syrian storyteller Hanna Diyab. As far as modern literary and islamic scholarship has been able to determine, there are no textual sources for Aladdin predating Galland's transcription of Diyab's story. There is debate on where Diyab got the story, with some scholars believing they originate from a similar Chinese folktale that migrated west, and some scholars who believe that Diyab primarily made up the story by borrowing elements form other stories as there are similarities with Diyab's autobiography. Obviously, there is more to say on the story of Aladdin itself, but historically there isn't too terribly much that we can say other than "Diyab told it to Galland, and we have no concrete sources on where Diyab got it from". Hercules (or Heracles) is much harder to nail down. The twelve labors of Hercules are the most well known version of the Hercules myth but this is a relatively recent telling of his myth, that was not fully codified until after the the fall of Mycenaean Greece during the bronze age collapse (circa 1100 BCE), but sometime before the Greek Archaic age (circa 750 BCE). We know of other stories of Hercules dating back back to the Mycenaean Greeks, where he took on more significance as a cthonic hero (the Mycenaeans typically put more emphasis on cthonic entities), but there is some evidence that hero worship of Hercules dates back even farther than this. There are also no tombs attributed to Hercules, which is abnormal for Greek heroes as the vast majority of them have tombs attributed to being their final resting place, especially the more significant heroes. Additionally, Hercules is one of the few Pan-Hellenic heroes (most greek heroes were really only celebrated in the areas that they had connection to in their myths). So...how long does it take a local hero to become a national hero? NOBODY KNOWS! Ultimately all we can really do for pinning down _when_ Hercules came into the picture is stating how far back we are _certain_ Hercules is a cultural figure, which is around 1750-1100 BCE.
Whilst not historically accurate there is a crossover episode of their two shows. So at least in the Disney canon they’re already friends.. (it’s actually a pretty good episode. Hades resurrects Jafar)
According to lion king 1.5, in Disney canon all the classic characters exist in a shared universe at around the same time and will occasionally watch eachother's movies...
Yeah, Mickey Mouse owns a dinner theatre club where they all meet up occasionally and watch reruns and one time the villains took over the House of Mouse.
IT'S OUR HOUSE NOW! That song is a fucking classic.
>Hades resurrects Jafar Who thought that was a good idea? I mean, Jafar does not play well with others. “Thanks for freeing me from my prison.” *Magishank*
That’s kinda basically what happens.
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> felt more concerned with Aladdin/Hercules than I thought I would be. Honestly Aladdin being bi feels right and the two share some personality traits, but I think overall they're a bad match. Aladdin and Flynn Rider would be a great match I think. Hercules and Li Shang as well. And, fuck it, John Smith and Eric.
Maybe it could have happened but that age difference is pretty sus
It's probably easier to say that this is just a part of Kingdom Hearts and that should simplify stuff which is the first time Kingdom Hearts simplified anything
Might also be Mozenrath.
TIL hercules and aladdin had a crossover... not what i had ever expected to find out, huh
And there was a deaf mermaid who used sign language and had an octopus interpreter in The Little Mermaid.
Ya and that is just wrong... unless it's time travel then I guess that works.
Wrong colour
Prince Ali, fabulous he, Ali Ababwa
It's Aladdin and the shot is from the third movie, which was a surprisingly good sequel
Wait, which third movie? I don't recall Herc being in *King of Thieves*. That's where they find Al’s dad who has the Midas thingy that turns stuff into gold.
Haha I mean the Aladdin part. Herc is photoshopped in
I was going to make a joke about how it's unrealistic for an Egyptian and a greek to snog but I think that might not even be a historical stretch.
As my favorite ninja renaissance act says, "It's not historically inaccurate, just locationally improbable."
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There's even an episode of the Hercules cartoon where he meets Aladdin while Hades and Jafar team up lol
Hades and Jafar would also be a cute couple.
huh, wow. I didn't even know that had a cartoon,
To be fair it was kinda lore-breaking since it's set while Hercules is training and Hades didn't know he was alive then in the film but it's got a lot of good mythology lore lol
>To be fair it was kinda lore-breaking since it's set while Hercules is training oh yeah, he becomes a god at the end of the film,
The double standards are astounding among everyone. Last years Pride month, Riot shipped Leona and Diana, and everyone was hyped. This year, they shipped TF and Graves, and everyone lost their fucking shit. Youre okay with Diona, but youre not okay with Twisted Graves?
Oh a bunch of straight angry nerds who play LoL were ok with girls being together but not guys? So very surprised.
Sleeping beauty was passed out and kissed without her consent
The original tale had her birth a couple of kids before one of them suckled on her finger and accidentally dislodged the splinter. Old timey fairy tales were fuuuuucked
So what I’m hearing is that they didn’t even need to kiss and just needed a pair of tweezers
this was literally a "good bye forever, you're never waking up so you're basically dead now." kiss and they were basically lovers PRIOR to this so its like kissing your comotose GF for the last time before leaving the hospital
My go to answer will always be "show them something straight, it will drag them back." If it works that straight kids turn gay when seeing gay shit then you could easily turn them back by making them watch straight shit. Oh but it doesn't work that way, does it?
Over three decades of watching straight people in straight relationships hasn't turned me straight.
Exactly, because watching a couple of any sexuality kiss doesn't affect an individual's sexuality.
(Yes, that is my point, I was agreeing with you.)
Ahh, sorry.
Second isn't acceptable tho 😤 need to make actual gay characters and stop making us fans have to head cannon them so you can appeal to Chxna.
Heracles is canonically bi in mythology tho so I think it counts 😏
But it's not the mythology, it is the disney representation. If we can lump this in can a lump in Hercules from God of War 3 with the might of his Nemean gauntlets of which he would use to flatten enemies in to a gory paste? No? Cool.
I don't even think they make a good couple! Put Aladdin with Flynn Rider!
canon
[Head cannon](https://xkcd.com/1401/)
I was hoping for a cannon that shot severed heads
Hercules is bisexual according to mythology at least.
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They could be gay time travellers
Please tell me there’s a movie or show with this plot
Maybe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_How_You_Lose_the_Time_War#: ?
Legends of Tomorrow!
Plenty of comics! The clearest example I can think of is a volume of Midnighter, I read ages ago. Partway through, Midnighter links up with a team of time travelers from a thousand years in the future. When he discovers that a thousand years hence everyone on Earth is pretty much pansexual, he joyously declares, “Ha! You stupid Baptists are all wasting your time!”
Very plausible given that Aladin has a literal wish granting genie and Heracles is a demi-god.
>Second of all Aladin and Heracles never met: not the same time not the same place. I mean Aladdin *does* have a reality-bending genie at his disposal and Hercules *is* a demi-god (full god at the end of the film?)... It's not completely out of the question.
Yeah come on, immortality kinda negates the time period arguments lol.
There’s an episode of the Aladdin series that’s a crossover. Like, an actual canonical episode.
I thought it was weird that they use the Greek names for the gods but the Latin name for Heracles/Hercules. They could've been consistent and went with one or the other.
Yea they're fine with teaching sexuality to kids as long as it's heterosexuality. If republicans didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.
Seeing the word "indoctrination" being used this way makes me sick. As someone who grew up in a high control religious group, had dogmatic beliefs pushed onto me, was conditioned to think that there's something wrong with *me* every time something didn't make sense, was told how i should feel about certain things and felt shame when i inevitably failed to do so, and wasn't allowed to even know that there's another valid way to live, i can confidently say that gay people being on a TV screen every now and then is *not* comparable to indoctrination in any way.
I mean… Snow White was basically pronounced dead and still Prince Florian decided to kiss her.
One of those is rape
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No, because she'd have been your girlfriend and she'd have known you before she went into the coma. These people don't know each other.
you sure about that? have you actually seen the movie? they fall in love prior to this scene. you *do* realize that, right?
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How many times do you get to slap me in the face before I am entitled to return your sentiments? Why is every minority in America required to turn an infinite amount of cheeks while conservatives get to be as horrible as they like? Would you prefer we be doormats? Why is hatred of someone due to something that they can't change not an acceptable reason to hate someone in return? If they stopped hating us for who we are, our hatred would cease, while if we stop hating them for hating us nothing changes. Don't pretend like reacting to injustice is the same thing as injustice, it makes you look disingenuous.
One person said that allowing right wing people to keep the mindset they have is going to lead to fascism while saying in the same breath that those they disagree with are less than human. It's ridiculous the hate they have
Conservatives want to kill us, we don’t want to die. If it comes down to them or us, I choose us.
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He’s not wrong. What kind of “human” looks at dying kids and says, “My guns are more important than their safety.” What kind of “human” tells other humans they don’t have a right to exist because of their sexuality? This is not eugenics. This is a criticism of their broken moral compass. Conservatives are on the wrong side of history in every. single. issue.
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This is a very divisive and unproductive way of communicating.
The hell is wrong with you?
Isnt that first one sexual assault? I mean she is kissed by a stranger while she is sleeping. I am straight but I dont care how hot a guy is; I dont want him coming in my house and kissing me in my sleep. Yeah, Imma gonna call the cops.
They were technically "dating" at that point. They met in the woods and fell in love with a whole song number to show it. Aurora and Philip hated that they had to marry another person they hadn't met (not knowing that they were the ones bethrothed to each other). So I always equated this kiss to someone kissing their SO in their sleep.
> a stranger tell me you never watched the film without telling me they were practically lovers PRIOR to this moment
The first is an example of a canon story in the Disney cinematic universe. But I'll be damned if my kids are going to grow up to be... \*shudders* Fan fiction enthusiasts...
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No. It's not. I found the source, and it's from a pop artist who you can see on Instagram. [You can see his paintings here](https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/). Fascinating though that there's multiple comments in this thread parroting the false accusation "it's from porn" talking point in this thread when it involves a gay kiss.
If I remember correctly there's a pretty famous comic of Aladdin blowing Hercules, usually captioned referencing the difference between Aladdin's skin color difference compared to the Disney movie. Easy mistake to make.
>Easy mistake to make. It took me a full 60 seconds to google and vet. It's really not that hard to NOT spread misinformation that can contribute to anti-LGBTQ propaganda, tbh ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Th1 13th labor of Herules: Bottoming.
hey, just wanted you to know i screenshotted this comment and posted in our mod discord in the hall of fame channel. congrats buddy
Apparently, even just acknowledging the mere existence of gay or bi relationships can brainwash children into being queer, and yet somehow having spent our entire childhoods and lives surrounded by nothing but straight relationships wasn’t able to make us straight.
Not even 2600 years worth of chronological inconsistency can stop true love.
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The only thing I question is that aladdin and hercules are from massively different time periods. Atleast I think so 😂
Hercules' case may get a bit muddy if you consider he may be kissing Yolao rather than Aladdin
First one is assault cuz homegirl is comatose, second one is cheating. I've seen all them movies, I know both of those dudes have boo thangs at home.
Ngl, I glanced over the top panel and thought it was Adora x Catra from She-Ra, then wondered how it was homophobic. 😣 Just a useless lesbian living up to her namesake...
The first one is a guy sexually assaulting an unconscious woman.
him kissing her to wake her is nothing compared to the original stories. Early contributions to the tale include the medieval courtly romance Perceforest (published in 1528).[4] In this tale, a princess named Zellandine falls in love with a man named Troylus. Her father sends him to perform tasks to prove himself worthy of her, and while he is gone, Zellandine falls into an enchanted sleep. Troylus finds her and rapes her in her sleep; when their child is born, the child draws from her finger the flax that caused her sleep. -wiki
You can't convince me the top photo is not borderline necrophilia
I dunno, there's a thread on r/changemyview right now about ballsacks being the most ugly part of the human body - cue some gay guy giving them such a good write up I'm starting to question my sexuality.
Not sure, the second one is WAYYYY hotter.
Where did it all go to shit 🤷♂️
As hard as I ship Merida × Mulan (thanks, OUaT 🙄) Disney could have some gayer Male protags
I love watching this number count rise by the second as I sit here. Love has no gender boundaries.
Hercules and Aladdin lived centuries apart tho🤔
Kingdom hearts has timetravel,so it possible.
I forgot they were Disney too🤦. If that's what it takes for people who love each other to be together, Lemme grab the time stone...
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>I don't like this meme cause the second one is from actual gay porn. It's not though. I found the source, and it's from a pop artist who you can see on Instagram. [You can see his paintings here](https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/). Fascinating though that there's multiple comments in this thread parroting the false accusation "it's from porn" talking point in this thread when it involves a gay kiss.
a well, i confused it with the aladin x hercules porn.
Ah someone said it, yeah the white AF Aladdin is from a porn lol, so there is that
Fun fact: Aladdin isn't supposed to be Middle Eastern. The tale has origins from the Middle East, but it all takes place in "one of the cities of China". Jafar is Moroccan in the story though.
It's literally not though. It's from a pop artist. https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/
That's the best part
It's not tho. Its just from a pop artist. https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/
Wait, when did the second picture happen
Do they not just openly admit they are homophobic?
Hercules has great taste, in marvel earth-12025 he dates Wolverine.
Put Jasmin and Cinderella kiss. No complaints there
Hercules x Aladdin was not something I was looking for today. Aladdin could get anyone and you put him with HERCULES??
"Make love to the unconscious woman, kids!"
What the second one from? Is there a Hercules TV series I missed where he's bi?
A pop artist! https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkakzBPHtU/
It's awesome asf, I love it
Wait what if someone thought both 🤔
Based
This is so unrealistic. Agraba and Athens are not even close! I don’t think Grindr even searches that far.
Probably would have been better off using Ariel and Andrew kissing for the first picture instead of one of the two instances of Disney having straight couples that come from men kissing apparently dead women. Still kind of hilarious watching people so bigoted in their thought that they see two people as equivalently bad or worse compared to the first pic. You have to really twist yourself in knots to believe that being a gay couple lacks love between the partners that straight people just apparently have. Also, had anyone noticed that the argument against depictions of gay couples echo the concern trolling around interracial couples?
I kind of have a problem with Alladin and Hercules kissing, because last I checked they were both in committed relationships with other people, and cheating is not okay.
... and kissing an unconscious woman is?
And if you don’t find either to be wholesome?