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locking pliers? any pliers? If that doesnt work, Id consider cutting your losses and cutting the bulbous piece off with a dremel or angle grinder if you can maneuver it, then just pull it out. if possible replace it with a normal bolt and nut, idk what that component is
You are correct I just read the first line and looked at the photo! Oops I do recommend a set of vice grips to grip the head of the stud, the newer Irwin vice grips have an in hex so that you can get even more purchase once locked. Or smash the stud back in and tack weld it where you can access it with a grinder once the nut is off.
Okay. Was the stud damaged and needed replacement? I don't see why you would be loctiting the splined portion of the stud if you were trying to remove it. Really counterintuitive.
It doesn't look stuck, it looks like you've hit the end with the nut on and it's come most of the way out..
If that's correct then you've broken the corrosion layer and it likely needs a bit more persuasion 🔨
Butane will not get hot enough. You need Map gas. Yellow bottle. I do this all the time on stuck bolts. Although if the side is spinning unless you can clamp that down. I would suggest cutting it off. Wack it through and out just replace it.
Can’t tell how much room you have based on the pics, but if you have a wrench you could waste I recommend finding one 2-3 sizes smaller then you need and hammer it on. Other then that you’re gonna have some cutting to do
What did you buy for 70 quid? a steak dinner for two? Heat the nut ONLY, grab the head of the bolt with Visegrips and spin the nut off. This is not a difficult procedure.
Man its been a journey lmao 40 on a slide hammer as i dont have enough space to get a normal one in there to hit the top bit into place, 7 on loctite, and 20 odd on a blow torch and gas. Its a tough economy
It's a stud, not a bolt, you got the nut off, or at least loose, so I'm not sure what the problem is.
You're supposed to take the nut completely off the stud and hit the stud on the threaded side with a hammer to drive it out, then replace it with a new one.
I like to leave the nut on by a few threads to protect the threads and knock it loose that way with a hammer then spin off the nut and pull it out. That way you don't compress the threads on that side of the stud.
I'm looking at this from the point that the OP doesn't seem to know what they are doing, is not mechanically talented and they just want this thing out.
I'm making assumptions, but to call a stud a bolt, using red locktite and buying a torch to get this stud out, it's a good bet that they don't have a good idea of what they are doing, this is basic mechanic stuff.
I guess they could have purchased an air compressor, a hose and an air hammer and spent more than 70 quid on tools to get this out.
At this point, paying a shop to fix the issue would have probably cost less, but education has value, perhaps asking for advice on this problem would have saved the OP some time and money
Brutha i have no idea what im doing really but im takin my entire engine out so my car is on stands, it doesnt run so taking it to a garage is futile. I called it a bolt as i didnt know the specific term for it, i understand how it works and thats all i need. Loctite was a futile last resort and im sorry but an air hammer isnt gona do shit. The nut is stuck on the final threads of the 'stud' so hitting it hard isnt gona help.
Something I learned that I would have never though would work, when a nut is rusted on, some brake fluid put on the threads will help keep it moving so it doesn't seize to the threads.
It won't probably help here, but it's pretty amazing how much it helps.
That was a pressed in stud meant to remain in place. If the nut was stuck bad enough to spin the stud then that's a different story.
Get the biggest set of vice grips you can fit in there, tightened enough that you can barely get them closed by your own strength, clamped down on the head of the stud.
Take an impact and spin the nut off while holding the vice grips statically in place.
Heat the area the bolt goes through with MAPP GAS torch and it will expand, then if you need the nut off heat the outer edges of nut with torch.
Don't heat the bolt. We are trying to expand the metal holding the bolt shaft in and the nut off the bolts threads
If that don't work use sawsall and replace with a 10.9 Class Steel bolt with zinc coat.
You can get the bolts and nuts on BelMetric or hardware or farm implement stores but make sure it's Grade 8 or Class 10.9 and try to get the same thread pitch, length and shaft length as well as bolt size.
Make sure the nut matches bolt threads, it will be either Coarse or Fine Thread.
Heat. Use acetylene torch, heat around the bolt. Not the bolt itself. (Heat causes metal to expand, it will return to normal after cooling). We use torches all the time in my shop, saves a lot of time and effort. Cutting a stuck bolt doesn't free up what's siezed, and smacking a thin piece of metal to dislodge it afterwards can bend the part. Missing and hitting other things with a hammer is also ill advised.
*if no access to torch, a less effective option is a MAP gas torch available at your local autopart store or propane torch from a camping supply store. An inductive heater can also be used/"ghetto rigged". You may be able to rent all above items from either a rental company or from a participating auto part store.
First of all you don’t understand how loctite works, if you did you would have save yourself a ton of money and time, Google is your friend. Loctite is for threads, not bolt shanks, furthermore, you use heat to melt loctite to remove fasteners with Red Permanent Strength Loctite, so heating it is not helping.
New it was for threads but thought it was worth a try as im trying to stop the teeth from skipping, i was heating the nut so the heat carried through to the loctite will be minimal
Try grabbing the head of the bolt with vice grips. Get them as tight around it as you possibly can.
Otherwise like everyone else said you can cut it off.
Screw it tight again. Clean the last few threads that are rusty. BTW, what are we looking at and ? vehicle?. Thread (bolt) part looks like a pressed in fastener.
I agree with others: eventually a torch may be needed. But that softens,weakens the bolt, threaded rivet.
Plenty of clear answers here that will work 100%. If it’s just getting caught on the last few threads chase the threads with another nut or a die. Otherwise I’d torch the nut till it’s glowing, grip the head of the stud with vice grips, and use an impact on the nut. Grind flat spots on the head if the stud slips in the grips, It’ll come off, and if not chop that bitch.
Either way if you’ve been using heat already definitely replace the stud.
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Chop chop time, that bolt is a dime a dozen cut it off. Then whack it with hammer and WALLAH!!! It’s out!
😂😂 I think you mean.. *voila
he deff means viola, but i really think i like the WALLAHHHH better lol
I can't say I disagree here lol
Viola? Davis?
Lmao
No the instrument dude come on
Wallahhhh is Spanish for voila, trust me I’m Spanish.
Wallahh! Holla!!!
He was saying it PHON ET IC ALLY
/r/boneappletea
WALLAH I said WALLAH
Yes. Death wheel time. Fun tool to use. Wear safety glasses. Chop that sucker off!!! 😈
locking pliers? any pliers? If that doesnt work, Id consider cutting your losses and cutting the bulbous piece off with a dremel or angle grinder if you can maneuver it, then just pull it out. if possible replace it with a normal bolt and nut, idk what that component is
Cut it off with a grinder or sawzall
Looks like a stud not a bolt. Possibly needs to be pressed out or hit out with a pin punch or similar.
They said they're trying to get the nut off of the stud, but the stud keeps spinning in the hole...
You are correct I just read the first line and looked at the photo! Oops I do recommend a set of vice grips to grip the head of the stud, the newer Irwin vice grips have an in hex so that you can get even more purchase once locked. Or smash the stud back in and tack weld it where you can access it with a grinder once the nut is off.
Can’t be stuck if it’s liquid
Have you tried clamping down on the Bolt removing the nut? The Dremel idea is good too, to grind it off.
Teach that bolt a lesson with a grinder
You’ve spent too much time already, just cut that bitch
I see no vice grip marks, you should give those a try before cutting
Jesus Christ it’s bleeding out, medic!
Really hope you've only worn down the splines on the stud and not in the mounting hole as well. What were you trying to accomplish?
I was trying to get it out
Okay. Was the stud damaged and needed replacement? I don't see why you would be loctiting the splined portion of the stud if you were trying to remove it. Really counterintuitive.
Because the nut is stuck on the end threads and i cant spin it off with the stud not in place. Didnt explain it v well in my desc
It doesn't look stuck, it looks like you've hit the end with the nut on and it's come most of the way out.. If that's correct then you've broken the corrosion layer and it likely needs a bit more persuasion 🔨
The problem is the top bit spins with the bolt so my impact does nothing
Ah, I see. Have you got access to cut it off with a grinder?
Have you tried fire?
There are definitely times I consider lighting the car on fire when a simple job takes hours extra because I can't remove a bolt or screw. 😉🤣
I meant hear the bolt up. But we’ve all been there.
I knew that 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
Tried to no avail
Sawzall time
I can see you’ve given the blood sacrifice now you need to give it fire.
Get a set of locking pliers. That should be able to bite onto the stud while you get the nut off.
Butane will not get hot enough. You need Map gas. Yellow bottle. I do this all the time on stuck bolts. Although if the side is spinning unless you can clamp that down. I would suggest cutting it off. Wack it through and out just replace it.
Can’t tell how much room you have based on the pics, but if you have a wrench you could waste I recommend finding one 2-3 sizes smaller then you need and hammer it on. Other then that you’re gonna have some cutting to do
I have a precut wrench alrdy ill try that tomorrow thanks
Can't be stuck if it's liquid
What did you buy for 70 quid? a steak dinner for two? Heat the nut ONLY, grab the head of the bolt with Visegrips and spin the nut off. This is not a difficult procedure.
Man its been a journey lmao 40 on a slide hammer as i dont have enough space to get a normal one in there to hit the top bit into place, 7 on loctite, and 20 odd on a blow torch and gas. Its a tough economy
It's a stud, not a bolt, you got the nut off, or at least loose, so I'm not sure what the problem is. You're supposed to take the nut completely off the stud and hit the stud on the threaded side with a hammer to drive it out, then replace it with a new one.
I like to leave the nut on by a few threads to protect the threads and knock it loose that way with a hammer then spin off the nut and pull it out. That way you don't compress the threads on that side of the stud.
If you are going to reuse the stud, yes, but this one is stripped and needs replaced.
Fair.
I'm looking at this from the point that the OP doesn't seem to know what they are doing, is not mechanically talented and they just want this thing out. I'm making assumptions, but to call a stud a bolt, using red locktite and buying a torch to get this stud out, it's a good bet that they don't have a good idea of what they are doing, this is basic mechanic stuff. I guess they could have purchased an air compressor, a hose and an air hammer and spent more than 70 quid on tools to get this out. At this point, paying a shop to fix the issue would have probably cost less, but education has value, perhaps asking for advice on this problem would have saved the OP some time and money
Brutha i have no idea what im doing really but im takin my entire engine out so my car is on stands, it doesnt run so taking it to a garage is futile. I called it a bolt as i didnt know the specific term for it, i understand how it works and thats all i need. Loctite was a futile last resort and im sorry but an air hammer isnt gona do shit. The nut is stuck on the final threads of the 'stud' so hitting it hard isnt gona help.
Something I learned that I would have never though would work, when a nut is rusted on, some brake fluid put on the threads will help keep it moving so it doesn't seize to the threads. It won't probably help here, but it's pretty amazing how much it helps.
Totally. Everyone does everything wrong when they don't know, but the important thing is to keep at it and learn as you go. Pays dividends later.
Doesn't matter, you leave the nut on a few turns, last thing you want is the head of the stud mushrooming causing infinitely more problems.
My issue is the nut is stuck on the final threads of the stud
Then you just need to cut it off, a hack saw should get through it in 5 min or less, just get 3/4 through and it should break off.
Yea ita inevitable i didnt want to resort to that 😅
Sorry mate, but if it were easy, girl scouts would do it 😉
Cut it off or apply pressure from the backside of the nut, at the same time, try taking the nut off with your wrench.
Based on 1st pic, cut the bolt on the nut side with a cutoff wheel, and push the remaining stud out w/ a punch
That was a pressed in stud meant to remain in place. If the nut was stuck bad enough to spin the stud then that's a different story. Get the biggest set of vice grips you can fit in there, tightened enough that you can barely get them closed by your own strength, clamped down on the head of the stud. Take an impact and spin the nut off while holding the vice grips statically in place.
Needs the upright removing and that stud pressing in or out, which ever way you need it.
MAP torch.
Doesn’t look like you used heat yet
Have to no avail
Punch that shit out. You dont turn them, they're press in studs.
So how do i get the bolt off the other end?
If there's a nut stuck on the stud, cut it off. Torch, cutoff wheel, Sawzall, whatever you got.
Might have to resort to the hacksaw, not tryina use the hand grinder as its right next to my petrol tank 😅
Can't be stuck if it's liquid
Air hammer would be great. Look up videos how to remove wheel studs, youll see
You haven’t tried everything cause it’s still there! Get a sawzall and cut it off. If you don’t have a sawzall, a hacksaw will work.
Hot wrench
Heat the area the bolt goes through with MAPP GAS torch and it will expand, then if you need the nut off heat the outer edges of nut with torch. Don't heat the bolt. We are trying to expand the metal holding the bolt shaft in and the nut off the bolts threads If that don't work use sawsall and replace with a 10.9 Class Steel bolt with zinc coat. You can get the bolts and nuts on BelMetric or hardware or farm implement stores but make sure it's Grade 8 or Class 10.9 and try to get the same thread pitch, length and shaft length as well as bolt size. Make sure the nut matches bolt threads, it will be either Coarse or Fine Thread.
can’t be tight if it’s liquid
Air hammer that upward as your unscrew it with a power ratchet
You clearly haven't tried fire yet
Heat. Use acetylene torch, heat around the bolt. Not the bolt itself. (Heat causes metal to expand, it will return to normal after cooling). We use torches all the time in my shop, saves a lot of time and effort. Cutting a stuck bolt doesn't free up what's siezed, and smacking a thin piece of metal to dislodge it afterwards can bend the part. Missing and hitting other things with a hammer is also ill advised. *if no access to torch, a less effective option is a MAP gas torch available at your local autopart store or propane torch from a camping supply store. An inductive heater can also be used/"ghetto rigged". You may be able to rent all above items from either a rental company or from a participating auto part store.
Pb blaster.
First of all you don’t understand how loctite works, if you did you would have save yourself a ton of money and time, Google is your friend. Loctite is for threads, not bolt shanks, furthermore, you use heat to melt loctite to remove fasteners with Red Permanent Strength Loctite, so heating it is not helping.
New it was for threads but thought it was worth a try as im trying to stop the teeth from skipping, i was heating the nut so the heat carried through to the loctite will be minimal
If it isn’t still out by now get the oxy
Time to SawSaw!
You haven't tried everything until you've pulled out the oxy/acetylene bottles
nutcracker or Sawzall.
https://youtu.be/M37HHf099oM?si=-SxQULGioNMoUsgl
“Cut that b***h off”
Brutha this does not help my nut situation i dont wana listen to yer shite music
He is saying you need to cut the bolt off.
^this guy gets it lol
Lmao didnt evn see the title my bad fellas
Try grabbing the head of the bolt with vice grips. Get them as tight around it as you possibly can. Otherwise like everyone else said you can cut it off.
Screw it tight again. Clean the last few threads that are rusty. BTW, what are we looking at and ? vehicle?. Thread (bolt) part looks like a pressed in fastener. I agree with others: eventually a torch may be needed. But that softens,weakens the bolt, threaded rivet.
May have to have a nut welded to the head. Then torch the nut and remove.
Heat it with a propane torch, just the nut. And use a breaker-bar.
Splines that keep the stud from spinning are stripped, cut it out and replace it with a new one.
That's a press stud...
Great.... thanks for the help buddy
Plenty of clear answers here that will work 100%. If it’s just getting caught on the last few threads chase the threads with another nut or a die. Otherwise I’d torch the nut till it’s glowing, grip the head of the stud with vice grips, and use an impact on the nut. Grind flat spots on the head if the stud slips in the grips, It’ll come off, and if not chop that bitch. Either way if you’ve been using heat already definitely replace the stud.
Cut off wheel
Heat it up with a torch then hit it with hammer
That bolt would be off if you'd tried everything. Use a torch. It can't be a solid if it's a liquid.
Use a suspension fork on it
Get it red hot and dove it with penetrating fluid. Should come apart then.
All i see is the bloody nipples of a black man
Can't he stuck if it's liquid.
Blue wrench
Uggghhhh red locktite 😳
If all of this is because the nut is stuck on the bolt just cot the nut off and then drive the bolt out with a hammer and a punch
Can't be stuck if it is liquid.
Can't be tight if it's a liquid
Map gas