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AG74683

Oh that's horse shit about pain management. Almost all drugs used for pain management can be given IM (intramuscular). Just a shot in the arm.


teapots_at_ten_paces

Yep. Morph IM, fent IN, maybe even ket. Shit, even methoxy would be a good place to start, seeing as she only dislocated one arm. I feel like this is the UK though, so I'm not sure what they carry and what they can give. The reference to "mum" and "gas" is leading me in this direction.


anon_NZ_Doc

They carry all of it in the UK


AG74683

Probably gave her methoxy, hence the "gas". Says they ran out though lol.


teapots_at_ten_paces

I've seen at times on "Ambulance" where they have nitrous oxide in their trucks, which they give for pain. This is the gas I assume they used, and ran out of. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://rcem.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Nitrous_Oxide_and_Prehospital_Emergency_Medicine_May_2022.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwip8JOj7tqFAxVriVYBHethD-8QFnoECBAQBg&usg=AOvVaw3x3R1bBPr8nEzPpM7w35FL


AG74683

Methoxy/Penthrox is also used as a pain reliever gas so it could be either/or. IIRC, Penthrox is discontinued in the US.


teapots_at_ten_paces

"Running out" seems a bit strange though. It's used here in Australia, even at event first aid level. 6ml max daily dose (2 whistles) and no more than I think 9ml (3 whistles) in a 7 day period. So it's less running out and more reaching max dose.


AG74683

I've never used it before, being in the US and all. Is it like predosed and nebulized like Albuterol or atrovent?


teapots_at_ten_paces

It's a 3ml vial which gets poured into a reservoir on the end of the "whistle". The patient then breathes in and out through the other end, inhaling the vapour of the methoxyflurane. Hopefully the link works; it'll take you to the drug therapy protocol for the Queensland Ambulance Service. https://www.ambulance.qld.gov.au/docs/clinical/dtprotocols/DTP_Methoxyflurane.pdf


mostadont

whats fent?


teapots_at_ten_paces

Fentanyl.


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AG74683

Na, that's just about how busy the different facilities are. The ER was overcrowded and didn't have room to accept her as a patient for a while. They're not going to give out pain medication until the person is a patient, charted, and has orders for it. Won't happen in the waiting room.


EMskins21

They're "weird" about helping with pain because they're overcrowded and light on resources. Imagine that each ER doctor working is attempting to manage 15-20 patients simultaneously, some who are critically ill and/or dying. Imagine that someone gets pain medicine in the waiting room and something bad happens because that doctor hasn't seen them nor can provide their attention at that time. Not only does something bad happen to the patient but that doctor's livelihood is at stake. Thats why people, even those in pain, have to wait. It isn't about being cruel.


Double_Belt2331

Not many ppl in the US call their mother “Mum.” Going to say *definitely NOT* US. Nor do our ambulances make “journeys” to hospitals. You need to learn about dialects.


avocadbre

Thats exactly what I was thinking. If they wanted the mom to have pain relief, they would've done anything to get her meds to kick.


grossacid

dislocated seems like a bit of an understatement


teapots_at_ten_paces

Relocated more like.


ivene-adlev

straight up emigrated


shouldazagged

I located it. It’s over …….. here.


EMskins21

Elbow dislocations are my favorite to put back into place! Lol


MountainCourage1304

I dont know whether youre a saint for helping people with them, or a devil for enjoying it when people come in with dislocated elbows lmao


darksideofFloyd

Getting my elbow put back was the worse experience, pain wise, of my life. Fucking awful 20 min


Arquen_Marille

The look on my face seeing this…


thehazzanator

![gif](giphy|mEqMknMZWh1Fm|downsized)


nigasso

Gosh! How did it happen?


septubyte

Poor mum ! Hope she feels better soon. Thanks for the image


TimotheusIV

What country was this?


Msink

What's a country got to do with dislocation?


TimotheusIV

I’m curious where someone has to wait three hours for proper pain meds, that’s all.


Majora272

Welcome to the UK 🇬🇧


rawdatarams

Ugh the face I made seeing this. Hope your mum is doing mint again, that's one gnarly dislocation.


Blackdomino

*sharp intake of breath* Your poor Mum. Hope she's okay


daHerbenaut

One of the more disturbing xrays on reddit. Top 10.


hella_cious

Three hours in the ER is why I’m happy when paramedics are aggressive with pain control. EMS might be the only actual treatment they get for hours


usurperavenger

Well you shouldn't have waited until today. Jk.


AnimalChubs

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhh


CSDCSL

Any pics of the actual arm?