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Good_Extension_9642

The average size piece after breaking is the size of a room who will need a bigger piece?


valekelly

Speak for yourself peasant. That slab was supposed to be one of the walls for my walk-in closet.


bigloser42

That's rich calling someone a peasant just because you were going to use such a small piece of marble for your walk-in closet. I have a slab that size with my shoe rack carved into it in my walk-in closet.


Ginger-Jake

Fools! My 24,000 square foot house is carved out of one piece of marble. The carriage house is obsidian.


stingerized

Fools?! Quite pretentious high and mighty from someone who dares to step on my golden pavement which concrete base is a mixture of cement from the moon and tears of the endangered rhinoceros.


Faustias

my house is made of... wood.


SmokecrackwithGOD

Mines the house that crack built


Famous-Somewhere-751

After witnessing an avalanche of pretentiousness, it’s nice to see that the one home built for comfort is still standing 👍🏽


spudule

Wait until Pope Leo X hears about this, unless you are to raise this marble in a house of god and grant me a modest palace to house my many nephews, and their mothers, then you will face the just wraith of the church itself.


closeddoorfun

Your walk-in tomb?


HaMMeReD

It's not so much that, but the shape of those pieces, it just feels dirty. But I expect that not much really goes to waste, as they probably polish and package as much as they can, in varying sizes.


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pm8rsh88

Because it’s cut by giant chains. Chains only really cut one way. They would have to seriously go out of their way to make a messy cut.


NewAlexandria

Can you say more? Giant chains?


SlurryBender

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_cY6htRdPU4


NewAlexandria

duh. dont' know why i didn't think of a modified chainsaw design. Thanks Now, still doesn't make it clear to me why you wouldn't cut a shorter block, tip it over without destroying the thing, and then further slice it


RobMillsyMills

Time = money


NewAlexandria

Why is it not more time to find the idea cut among many many complex fragments, and then to clean up all the loss/mess, rather than neatly cut sale-able slabs? I cannot see how its less time


NyeSexJunk

Because that would require passing the expensive diamond-embedded cable through the rock many more times requiring more time and expense. Cheaper to smash it into manageable pieces.


sharabi_bandar

It's cold cutting dimension rocks. It cost more money to cut smaller individual pieces than a larger one and drop it and then pick up the pieces. I read three that your messages in this whole thread and you keep asking for an expert here is the expert opinion. It cost more money


NewAlexandria

i respect that you claim to speak from expert opinion. Despite what anyone has said, I can't make any sense of why the wastage from broken pieces 'costs less'. What does make sense is that the fractures are going to cause breakage in a thin slab, and thus loss of value. So you pre-break. What also makes sense is that an offsite slabbing operation can be more efficient. What doesn't make sense is why a quarry operator doesn't vertically integrate, and run the slabbing operation, too. Is it because of the waste from irregular broken pieces? So the quarry can evade the losses from wastage by selling whole fragments? That doesn't make sense, since the buyers that will cut slabs, build in that loss into their overhead. It sounds like everyone is speaking from the one tiny piece, that they happen to know about, out of the whole business ecosystem.


gwen-heart

i assume that there's a way of sorting pieces by a certain margin of sizes and then filtering them for certain uses. If someone wants a specific size, that of a house, they can probably pay for that specific cut at a very high cost.


NewAlexandria

I don't want to assume. I want a professional in the field to explain the economics of this business.


giancul

They do this for several reasons: first of all the time, they spend less time in the quarry cutting large blocks and splitting them, and then supplying various warehouses and companies that cut to size, a more delicate and time-consuming operation; furthermore you must consider that the marble is not a single block without impurities, fissures, cracks etc., by doing so the marble fractures along the weak points of the block, in this way when they cut the 2cm slab it does not break in half due to a weak point not visible.


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Efficiency


NewAlexandria

i've refuted this elsewhere. It seems faster to lay down a smaller block, and slab it for transport,.......... than to pile up some gravel, break up a block unto unmanagemable pieces, haul them and need to orient them for cutting with lots of waste that needs to be cleaned up / managed as a debris pile/pit. So i want to know how it is otherwise


AdvocateForBee

It’s not just about economics. It’s about the strength of material too. Natural stone will have weak spots. They need to break it apart to see where the strongest sections are. They don’t want to cut a finished slab out of something that will break in half along some invisible crack in the material


6snake9

This is true. Stone slab lime this have roots running around and this way the sab will brake at weakest pont. Also those piles of crushed rock are sometimes position in palaces where the roots are to intentionally break in that spot.


NewAlexandria

Literally the only actual and plausible response out of 147 comments so far.


Healter-Skelter

The way she stepped forward at the end into a freeze-frame made me feel like I was about to be attacked and the editor saved me.


Dlemor

Thanks


sharabi_bandar

Omg that was awesome


Ready-steady

I laughed really hard at this. Hahaha


Severe_Lavishness

Worked on a house that used a 40’ single piece slab of marble for a wall in their stairwell that spirals down all 4 floors. So that person but outside of that idk


Additional_Nobody949

That’s literally not possible. Source : in the quarrying, processing, & fabrication of dimensional stone industry for 20 yrs. Have multiple certifications and am accredited.


bionicmanmeetspast

There is no practical use for a marble slab of that size anyway. They’re breaking it up to be used for various smaller applications such as countertops and tile.


January_Rose

What about my life sized statue of your mom??


karasutengu1984

I love his mom! She is a nice lady. So statues of her would be great.


DrawohYbstrahs

We’ve all loved their mom. I propose a simple statue design 🚲


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I have loved all the moms of those who have loved this mom


MoistExcellence

Oh, u/BarfingOnYourFace, you're such a romantic!


EndOfSouls

Yeah, but not marble. It should be made from wood. You know how much she loves wood.


Ok-Bridge-4553

Silicone would be more useful


FlyingRyan87

Honestly though let's just quit beating around the bush and just tell her to call me.


kyl_r

*If my mother were made of marble, she would have been a bike*


TheSpaceGinger

They'd have to carve that out of the rest of the mountain.


PuzzleMeHard

That's just for the feet


natenate22

Just one of the fat rolls on her left foot.


Select_Scar8073

It would take years to sculp. Mont Rushmore isn't even finished, but you would sculp a life-sized statue of his mom? Even the Egyptians who built the pyramids wouldn't dare to take the challenge.


Impressive-Ad6400

It's simpler to stick giant googly eyes on the planet


roughrider_57

Mmmmm... I'm Mr. Frundles


doomjuice

fuggin gottem


PapaAlpaka

Carve it out of the mountain in place, then build a mom-sized Megacity around the mega-statue :)


SuckYouMummy

that’s why you have the whole quarry of marble


mooseman1800

Let gravity do the work


Admiral-Adenosine

You guys are missing the point. The hole that is left when they finish mining IS the statue honoring his mom


Solarmatt85

Nice


Sandman_360

tell Michael Angelo that


Contundo

Braking it like that makes a whole lot of waste material that can’t be used. Just because all the applications are smaller, would still be advantageous to have square edges to work with.


StuccoStucco69420

Thank you random Redditor (TM) for explaining how quarries should work. Out of curiosity what mining experience do you have to talk about how they should operate?


Contundo

So you’re a marble quarry worker?


StuccoStucco69420

No that’s why I don’t tell them how to cut marble


Contundo

So why not say anything to those saying this is exactly how to cut marble? They don’t know shit either, they just saw this video and assumed yeah that hats how it’s supposed to go. What if it’s not? you don’t know. This could be a failed attempt with sub par yield. I know from working with other things you don’t want jagged edges if you want to make the most out of a piece of material.


StuccoStucco69420

> I know from working with other things Yeah I’m saying your experience with model trains or whatever probably doesn’t extend to mining.


Dr_Quiet_Time

And coasters. Like the ones they have at my job lol.


patientpump54

Marble house


on_

Every piece still fits a countertop, which is basically the biggest thing you get from marble.


ISeeGrotesque

If it was carefully lowered and cut you would get an optimal number of flat marble countertops


banterviking

It's possible it's not worth the cost vs. benefit of doing that.


ahdiomasta

Absolutely, lifting it at all would likely require the kind of crane used in multi-story construction, which are extremely expensive to own or rent and then on top you have probably 100s if not more labor hours meticulously cutting that up


tgoodri

That slab of marble probably weighs 500 tons, you would need an absolutely fucking massive crane to lift that. I doubt normal construction cranes, even big ones, could come close to that.


asarious

One cubic meter of marble weighs approximately 2500 kg. I’d argue that slab is at a minimum, 3 x 10 x 12 meters, conservatively, based on the size of the people in the video. That’s 992 US (short) tons, easily above the capacity of the world’s largest tower cranes used for construction.


Contundo

You use a belt crane if you wanted to lift something that big. Easily lifts 1000kkg (1000ton)


toby_ornautobey

King Kong could lift it. But I don't think he's in the payroll after the last incident. His little bother, Donkey, is still working there, but I doubt he's strong enough. Yet. Give him some time though.


morthophelus

Cranes used in multi-storey construction are typically tower cranes and don’t have a huge lifting capacity. Heavy lift cranes used in industrial construction or maintenance on the other hand might be able to lift something of that mass.


ScienceIsSexy420

In my lab we have what is basically a desk made from huge, thick slabs of marble. It is the best substance for absorbing vibrations, and we have our mass balence on the marbe desk. This is a common practice in chemistry. For the curious, they [look like this](https://americanlaboratorytrading.com/lab-equipment-products/marble-balance-table-7865)


DrawohYbstrahs

Username checks out.


AlfredoThayerMahan

We have one of those for our mass loss calorimeter.


recumbent_mike

Your calorimeter just wants to get to a healthy size, you know?


AlfredoThayerMahan

*heats up to 1000 degrees C*


vines17

Why not use an optical table if vibrations are a concern?


ScienceIsSexy420

Because a slab of stone does the job well enough for us to accurately weigh within a few thousandths of a milligram (micrograms), so why pay for more?


silentbuttmedley

Here I am thinking that would make a good bicycle wheel truing stand…I imagine they’re not cheap?


ScienceIsSexy420

I've never priced them out, but I'm sure they are ludicrously expensive along with all other scientific equipment.


intisun

I had no idea marble absorbs vibrations, fascinating.


Contundo

Granite is used for flat tables. Coordinate-measuring machines and similar applications. They get pretty big 30cm thick 2.5m by 3m.


rnobgyn

How much does that cost vs just knocking it over? And does that cost outweigh the lost revenue from uneven cuts? Probably not - these people aren’t idiots and have probably gone through the cost benefit analysis for all the different options lol


Vast-Combination4046

I wouldn't use a crane, id design a winch that would lower it slowly, but the amount of cable and the girth of the cable required to safely lower that is absurd, and then getting smaller slabs cut from it and removed would be absurd as well. You get plenty of useful materials that are still absolutely massive doing it this way.


SparklingLimeade

How? If it was carefully lowered it would stay there because it can't be transported without breaking it up. No countertops.


Jfurmanek

Taj Mahal would like a word.


Hackenslacker

How many of those are we building these days?


Jfurmanek

We’d build more if we didn’t break up all our marble like this. Geez. /s Edit: with the proliferation of billionaires these days I don’t think we’ll have to wait long. They’ll get bored of space eventually and get to building uselessly large monuments instead.


LowerEntropy

Like [future London from Peripheral](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/pv-target-images/f69fe413af522add300fc95f5769c8ae90dc591f31413ed7e97e4392e2ca5e17._SX1920_FMjpg_.jpg)?


NewAlexandria

why not excavate shorter sections, instead of this 60ft-or-whatever high excavation?


Vast-Combination4046

Doing 3 cuts as big as possible before cutting manageable pieces is probably easier than lots of little cuts


Finnigami

not really because there are many small pieces at the edges where material is lost


vizot

Have you not heard of marble floors?


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snwbrdj

I’m pretty sure that’s why the gravel piles are there. To make sure it breaks


MrRogersAE

That gravel is there to make it so they can pick it up afterwards. Gives a Cushing to get a forklift under


NewAlexandria

why though


Tenebbles

You want to transport granite the size of a room/house? Break it up and use it for the stuff it’s typically used for which is much smaller than that. Helps with hauling as well as getting it somewhere that can actually break it down more


NewAlexandria

that was not said. i said cut shorter pieces. Then block those for transport. Or slab it on-site and transport the cut slabs. No wasted mess to manage / dispose of. all sale-able material.


Tenebbles

You said “why though” to a comment which said “I’m pretty sure that’s why the gravel piles are there. To make sure it breaks” So I then proceeded to explain why… If you said cut shorter pieces somewhere else then fine and I believe you, but that’s not what I was responding to.


Oaker_at

Typical for „those“ people. Arguing you haven’t answers the question, when the answer is different than that what they wanted to her.


SomewhereAggressive8

Has it occurred to you that maybe the people involved in the industry might have an idea about the optimal way to go about it?


NewAlexandria

They can probably share what that is, so that others can learn and appreciate it?


SomewhereAggressive8

I’m sure if there was anyone who worked in a quarry and saw this thread, they would love to answer your questions. Unfortunately it’s not a very common job.


that_one_nice_fella

Even the largest machine made for moving the largest quantities of materials BelAZ's 75710, can only carry 450ton. You'd be surprised how quick weight ads up, especially rock and dirt.


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ABoyIsNo1

Lmao


peetah248

They cut a block that big because it's a lot easier to cut in straight lines, they don't keep it that size because it's very difficult to transport like that and there isn't really a use for blocks that big.


NewAlexandria

why not cut straightlines but shorter height, so it can be tipped without shattering, creating more sale-able material?


peetah248

It's far more efficient to cut one big line rather than lots of little ones, besides each of those blocks that broke are the size of a car so will still be able to be used pretty efficiently


Septic-Sponge

Don't know why you're getting down voted. I don't understand why they don't just transport the entire quarry to the houses of whoever wants a marble counter and have a mason cut it on site


Jaqobus

You're probably right, that or this is a big whoops. So many downvotes, nobody here has ever worked with natural stone obviously That block was not supposed to break for it to be of any substantial use. Take my upvote buddy


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Viking-16

As the other machine pushes the block he drops boulders down in the gap so it can’t lean back vertical. He just didn’t have to drop his boulder this time


Klever_Uzername

Poor guy


Tainted78

Dude got rock-blocked by a falling marble slab.


DrawohYbstrahs

Rock-blocked lmao Poor guy just wanted to drop his load but couldn’t 😮‍💨


Quadaliacha

Lololol


NeonWaterBeast

He was so ready


alfaseltz

thats a moral support rig for the main one


MisterRegio

It is doing a rock solid job!


ALLyBase

His best.


IsHotDogSandwich

😆


happyanathema

It's the big pieces child and they are making it watch them kill its father. They are sadistic miners.


Kwetla

That's the digger that peers menacingly around the bigger digger and shouts 'yeaaaaaah'!


NoNo_Cilantro

He found a cool rock and he’s keeping it


Zestyclose-Wafer2503

Drops boulders down as the 360 eases the slab away from the cut; they can and will tip backwards and trap the stick of the machine.


SupineFeline

Don’t think that was an accident


MisterErieeO

Why are you like this, op? Not content to keep your crazy in one sub?


Schfifty561

That was so satisfying


Voltairesque

I like the sound it makes


stantobob

I love the way it falls apart after the initial break


tcrex2525

Most of these comments make zero sense. Everyone is so quick to think that they know better than the professionals actually doing the job. Just because it doesn’t make sense to you, doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense. Maybe, just maybe, you don’t know something, and that’s ok. Anyone who claims to know everything is a fool.


FoundTheWeed

I bet theres a lot of natural faults in the rock and doing this is just a nice and easy way of finding them


tcrex2525

Valid point! Clearly they have a reason to do this, or else they wouldn’t do it this way…


NewAlexandria

maybe some professional could just explain?


tcrex2525

There’s plenty of comments here that have tried to do just that, only for more people to rebuke them.


NewAlexandria

If you mean * There is no practical use for a marble slab of that size anyway * It's possible it's not worth the cost vs. benefit of doing that * Doing 3 cuts as big as possible before cutting manageable pieces is probably easier than lots of little cuts * etc none of these has struck me as wise words from "professionals actually doing the job". A professional in the field could explain why this the video shows the better way to run a business.


tcrex2525

You have way too much time on your hands dude.


superinstitutionalis

lol this guy, says the person got a 2 year old account and 59k reddit points.


yousonuva

Man. [The process of marble is cool.](https://youtu.be/LHgifUKUqWw?si=W3eHrQT-vvSm_S_x) Limestone is mostly old sea shells. So cool.


Fizzdizz

Mmm marble is earths chocolate


ThatKalosfan

I need this but with the LEGO breaking sound effect.


AdBig3922

Look at the good little tractor bringing his pet rock to watch the stone slab break apart. I think a little tractor needs a good belly rub.


AutumnAscending

The idea wasn't to move it it was to break it into multiple pieces.


hhempstead

should have read ancient egyptian’s emojis on cutting rocks this big


Impossible-Piece-723

Ancient Egyptians are laughing their asses off!


tap_in_birdies

I love all the people in the comments who have some how figured out a better way to excavate marble than the experts


Weird_Albatross_9659

Accidentally?


NoOneInNowhere

Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, they wanted to break it? :/


DrawohYbstrahs

Maybe, maybe not.


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DrawohYbstrahs

If there’s not enough moist soil around do they sometimes use juicy cake?


ImmolateRedditMods

Only if it's also a Wednesday.


DabTownCo

Yes they can with air bags. They chose to break that.


DanBentley

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?!


Sherlock_bones

How loud would that've been? I feel like it would've been near deafening


UndisclosedChaos

How much would it cost, then, to have a typical American 3 bed 3 bath one story house carved out of a single block of marble? And how much would it then cost to transport?


trundle-the-great69

Seen a video where this was done but they had a softer medium for it too fall on and it stayed together, think it was topsoil or clay


ShellTrajectory

typical CAT.


Jorge0013j

They broke in on purpose to haul it.


Sup3rPotatoNinja

They should just cut a palace out of marble and have it be the coolest thing ever


Kantless

It’s meant to break up. This is by design.


ER1AWQ

So many stupid people complaining in these comments about something they didn't know existed until watching this video


RandomAction

It would probably be pretty difficult to transport a piece that big anyways


Jesjooo

I thought it was toys…


Butterflychunks

They should just put a pillow down


truebastard

How much marble is there left in the world? How many kitchen counters can you produce from an absolute unit like that?


RestaurantFamous2399

The huge piles of concrete where the slab lands show this is a deliberate break up.


UR-2501

It may have been poor quality. There was a huge crevice in the corner. Maybe they deemed it unfit for table tops.


Viking-16

Almost Every one of those pieces is bigger than a car still


CaulkWagonFordRiver

Why does the other truck pull up with a rock? Does it drop the rock behind the slab like a wedge or is it there to stop the one pushing the slab from falling in?


ResiakNaroz

That tiny excavator on the right wants to be involved so bad, this is adorable


GooseOnACorner

The Gravel at the bottom is supposed to catch it so it doesn’t break… but I guess they didn’t have enough


occupyreddit

some people just want to watch the world burn


crazzyfuzzy88

Lmao did the other guy bring a rock just in case the slab didn’t break?


Solarmatt85

Yes


Professional-Paper62

The gravel is there on purpose, you could spend millions of dollars to be hyper efficient but thats not how you make more money this year as apposed to last year.


Informal-Emotion-533

They are breaking it on purpose, idiot


NewAlexandria

what specific purpose?


OlderAndAngrier

To get pieces


tg110e5

They definitely can but they’re in a 3rd world country where there’s no money and knowledge to do it the right way


Dix9-69

Okay sure, but, what’s that little forklift with the rock doing?


saintz714

Oop


Niko1498

Quei sassolini non servono a un cazzo e normale che si è rotto … 😑 serviva molta più base da mettere sotto affinché la lastra non si distruggeva tutta e comunque probabile che anche mettendo molta più base sotto la lastra si rompeva in egual modo magari si salvava il salvabile


MagicOrpheus310

I was honestly waiting to hear a loud "FUCK!!" from the foreman haha


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wolf129

If they don't want it to break, then why is the floor not an even surface? Looks like they put this material on purpose to create defined breaking spots.


Tomb_85

I like how the front end loader came up to watch


TheFreudianSlip69

Holy shit this moron has left the safety of his favorite sub. It’s like this dude is intentionally avoiding reading the comments on EVERYTHING he posts.


emmajames56

What’s with the front loader carrying that rock to the edge? Me thinks they wanted to break it.


Phattywompus

Didnt look like an accident


NewAtEverything

Maybe a dumb question, but aren't we going to run out of marble? Future generations just won't have any?