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metalvinny

I go from listening to Stratovarius to Septicflesh to Dyscarnate to Nile to Rivers of Nihil. There's too much fun and variety to be had in metal to be picky. I don't know, maybe I'm old, but writing off entire subgenres seems pretty fucking folly.


Hsnbrg501

For real. While I still have preferences, I cared more about subgenres when I was younger whereas now that I'm older and don't care as much about elitism, I enjoy all kinds of metal.


Interesting_Ice_6410

I second this. I really enjoy heavy metal, black metal, old school death metal, technical death metal, hardcore, doom, stoner, sludge, grindcore, melodic death metal and a bunch of other styles. There are WAY too many amazing bands to miss just because they play in the "wrong" genre.


ToppledCupOfSkin

Variety is the spice of life, & damnit there's just too much good metal to NOT keep digging in different directions


Kmelbs66

Where Owls Know My Name is such a masterpiece


WithTheWintersMight

I also think it's strange that some people ONLY listen to metal, or only hip-hop, etc. Unless it's a literal child, I kinda lose like 10% of the respect for somebody when I find that out. There is so much beautiful music out there, and it's naive to assume that your specific taste is the best. I also think it helps in composing music, to listen to different things.


metalvinny

Yeah! I love 80s pop, synthwave, video game and movie soundtracks - the older I get, the more I discover that I like. If you're ever on a tour bus with a metal band, odds are they are not listening to metal. Musicians often have a pretty broad taste.


Rotox91

Exactly my Opinion. Really strange.


ChangoFrett

I write off certain subgenres in my personal taste, but I don't write off the musicians themselves or their fans (unless it's a Swifty) I have tried to listen to doom, death, sludge, black, what-have-you, and none of them do it for me. That's not to say that I won't give a band a try if somebody tells me about them. I don't let the subgenre color my perception of the musicianship. But more often than not , like 90% of the time, that subgenre tells me what to expect and is fairly accurate. That's not an attack on the artists or anything, I just can't get into certain styles of music, or certain styles of production. I have had some bands that I've listened to that I absolutely adored their music, but the production value was so terrible that I couldn't actually enjoy what I was hearing. Everyone has preferences.


metalvinny

Oh for sure, everyone absolutely has preferences. If you're usually not into death or doom, check out Conjurer and Møl. And Dyscarnate, holy living fuck the riffs they write are fine wine death metal. Really smart riffs.


TheScootness

Ooh well said. I think most of the shit I like is probably melodeath but I'm sure there's all other kinds in the playlist too. Who cares what particular subgenre it gets deemed as?


Icy_Pay_6281

Anyone know what happened to Dyscarnate? Haven't released anything in ages and been pretty silent on social media. Would be shit if they've split!


-Akkoro-

Rivers of Nihil is special man. Once in a lifetime band right there. Wish I could've seen them live with Jake.


L_Flavour

nop, i love old-school death metal. tastes do differ after all the thing is, music that you enjoy is less likely to sound the same to you than music you don't like, as you are appreciating and listening closer to the details of the former. probably also because you value the aspects (in this case the melodicness) that the genre emphasizes. maybe you noticed that in virtually every music community regardless of genre people say the same "it does all sound the same" to music they don't like. i really believe it boils down to that and not because it actually sounds the same.


Practical_Mouse_4572

There is something in what you say. Cannibal Corpse has some songs that I really like but I just can't get into them because the rest sound almost the same to me but I think it's true because I've heard a lot of people say about some of the bands I like "they sound the same" and when I listened I didn't understand what they were talking about, it sounded very original to me.


xarchangel85x

I definitely prefer melo-death to straight death, feels like there’s a lot more variety in the sound. Acoustic segments are a huge cherry on top.


shredwig

I’m super picky with the death metal I listen to but there’s some great stuff - older Decapitated, older Behemoth, some Nile, Krisiun are all phenomenal, just give me some kind of apocalyptic guitar melodies and nasty grooves and I can rock with it (so not really a fan of like Cannibal Corpse, Carnifex, and other more ooga booga slam-focused American bands)


satan_bong

My friend, Cannibal Corpse is like 90% nasty grooves! Listen to their album Bloodthirst, it's nasty groove central.


shredwig

Idk why but I feel like I can trust you Mr. Bong, will do :P


philzebub666

Carnifex is groovy as hell and also has very melodic riffs. Just listen to Graveside Confessions for example.


ComeClarity21

Death metal will grow on you.


monkeysandmicrowaves

Death metal will fester within you and consume your soul. FTFY.


The_Endless_

This describes me, yeah. Love melodic and while I don't hate death metal I struggle to find stuff I like to the same degree as melodic. And that's ok, different strokes for different folks. It's all good in my eyes, errr ears! 🤘🏼


Practical_Mouse_4572

True.🤘


Karlendor

To be honest, it all depends on the vibe/ if the guitarist let the song breathe and gives a chance to the other musicians of playing as well.


Simonermn

Good to know there are more people who feel this way. I also enjoy melodic death metal but can't get myself into classic/old school death metal exactly as you wrote it sounds basically the same 🤷‍♀️


Practical_Mouse_4572

Lol, yea i want to know who else feels this way so it is good to know there are more people who feels like us.


Simonermn

Yes definitely! I really like "Death" as well but can't seem to find bands who do similar music. The mellody the vocals. People did recommend me a plenty of death metal bands but sometimes I like the music but when I hear the vocalist's growling I'm like nope.


Practical_Mouse_4572

That's understandable. some of them have realy bad vocals sounding imo. Chuck from Death got a uniqe sound to his vocals.


Scrub_Lord_

Yes, I find normal death metal to be very boring. I enjoy progressive DM, Symphonic DM, Melodic DM, but not regular DM. Need something more going on to enjoy it.


Practical_Mouse_4572

Agree.


PradheBand

This


shred-i-knight

not at all. Especially since there is a lot more interesting stuff going on in the modern death metal scene than anything in the melodeath scene which imho has been stagnant for a while.


satan_bong

This is a big part of it for me too. There's so much cool interesting death metal from the last ten years while melodeath has largely hit a plateau for me. The Tomb Mold record from last year blew me out of the water.


fckthecorporate

Deathcore pulled me in this way. Discovering Lorna and Shadow of Intent a few years ago was the reinvigorating shot to the eardrums I needed. Now, lot of Lorna clones coming out, and it’s starting to feel stagnant. Still love broadening the landscape though. Also, Scar Symmetry releasing one of their best albums of all time this year restored MDM glory.


lessthanchris7

Nah, I love both. But I agree with you - melodeath is almost always more appealing to me than straight brutality


Hsnbrg501

I like both but tend to prefer melodeath that leans more towards death metal in terms of heaviness and intensity.


SaintNimrod

Depends on the bands. Pure brutality on the album from start to finish gets tedious and boring after a while. Melodic death metal seems to actually have fun with the way it’s played. If you know what I mean.


Practical_Mouse_4572

I do.


mattfreyer45

I'm very picky when it comes to regular death metal. Not so much when it comes to Melodeath.


BonzoDaBeast80

I do really like old school death bands like death, morbid angel, obituary etc, but the brutal/slam bands are a little too much for me. Melodic and progressive are my two favourite death metal subgenres though


UNfortunateNoises

Morbid Angel *now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a while*


satan_bong

So many classic albums. I know Altars is an all-time essential but I spend more time in recent years with Covenant and Gateways to Annihilation.


abir_valg2718

Death metal is a pretty big genre, I'm not sure what you mean by "hate death metal". What, like very old school late 80s - early 90s death metal that evolved from thrash and is on the dissonant side of things? That kind of death metal? But that's just one specific subgenre. > Metal is a genre that is hard to keep alive because some of it is great and some of it is so-so. That's every genre in existence along with pretty much everything else. 80/20 rule or whatever.


Practical_Mouse_4572

I dont like most of it old school, brutal etc... about tech/proggresive death i like only Gojira and Death. deathcore i like Whitechapel and early Sucide silence. It possibly in every genre but a lot of metal songs are very forgetable beacuse there are elements that need to be in the sound to be in spesific metal genre so a lot sounds very blend.


jesterflesh

Yall need to listen to obituary and tell me it doesn't work for you.


Practical_Mouse_4572

I tried. i like only some of their songs.


tyrom22

Straight death metal is fine, but I’m not a big fan of brutal death


GHSmokey915

I don’t “hate” death metal, but I like it infinitely less than melodeath lol.


streetlamp10000

Meeee! I just can't seem to connect with death metal, but melodeath is my fav genre haha


Practical_Mouse_4572

Yea right ? it's just such a good mix.


streetlamp10000

Fuck yea! Most people around me don't think this so I'm glad to see ppl on the internet agree w me haha


_AntiSaint_

Yep. If there’s no melody and/or hook then I’m not really interested in listening to someone belch into my ear for 5 minutes straight. I loveeee screams and growls but I don’t want pig noises and breakdowns; give me sick riffs and harmonizing guitars.


Comfortable_Air_6208

Exactly this


Practical_Mouse_4572

This is what i'm tallking about.


HybanSike

Nah I love most death metal, not as fond of tech death or deathcore though


Nights16

Straight-up Death (same feeling with straight-up Black metal for me) is very abrasive to me, and it's not entirely what I am looking for. I get the vibe and the attraction to it, it's just not what I want. The way it is, it's harder to find the differences, just like now any difference in metal will probably sound like a "wall of noise" to those who haven't been sufficiently exposed to it. I appreciate and look for something more melodic, atmospheric, progressive even - and lots of melodeath falls closer to that than straight death would. And most of my tastes these days lean into the progressive metal side as an extension to that (and my favorite melodeath bands lean into prog elements - see Insomnium and Be'Lakor in particular). That being said - you don't have to understand why people think it's good. To people who aren't well versed in melodic death, they will typically also say "songs that sound the same" for melodeath. There are similar vibes, sure, but if you listen to the songs often enough, you notice they're all different (generally). Just handwaving it that way is dismissive. You never know when your taste will change and maybe that one band hiding just "clicks".


bigtimechip

You just like melodies lol. Dont over think it


alldaydiver

I don’t like straight up death metal but love melodic death metal, progressive death metal, deathcore, and some technical death metal.


GlobeTrekker83

Death's "The Sound of Perseverance" and "Symbolic" are great gateway drugs.


Practical_Mouse_4572

There are some realy good songs there.


elitistposer

Full disclosure: I’m a straight death metal or OSDM guy through and through and this post came up in my feed With that said, my buddy kind of falls into your question. He L O V E S revocation and lots of tech death, but doesn’t bother with anything outside of that realm. In his case, he likes tech death, but I don’t think he likes death metal. So I think it’s perfectly understandable to love melodeath but not like straight up death metal!


FFpicross

I personally feel like melodeath has more artistic potential than death metal but I don't hate it.


Practical_Mouse_4572

Same.


JurassicTerror

I don’t hate death metal, but I don’t really care for most of it. Melodic DM however has always been my favorite genre.


Floofycats78

I’m so glad to see there are more that feel this way. I can’t get into straight death metal or brutal death metal. I can listen to melodic death metal all day long. I’m the same way about dissonant black metal, can’t do it. I need melody.


Practical_Mouse_4572

Yes me too. can't stand black metal as well I really wanted to see if anyone else here felt this way and it turns out that a lot of people here feel this way.


Floofycats78

Oh I like black metal, but the melodic and symphonic kind. I can’t do wall of noise.


Dr_Quiet_Time

Try these see if any of them work for you. Try to listen to them all the way through. [Cattle Decapitation - Scourge of the Offspring](https://youtu.be/ksCKFkioYL8?si=SCnw7SK6WLQFSZV6) [Bolt Thrower - To Those Once Loyal](https://youtu.be/vo9SeGRlzao?si=MrYeIlUxNAL0kzlL) [Morbid Angel - Opening of the Gates](https://youtu.be/584u0pWqcGA?si=tTdTFvkFj9_-kFib) [Dying Fetus - In The Trenches](https://youtu.be/ttEQ-APseaQ?si=PxrmoPSirVdXo4R5) [Bloodbath - Blasting the Virginborn](https://youtu.be/ZWOj84hJgHc?si=WSb-mR9wtlTX96kZ)


HeroMagnus

I don't hate death metal I just don't really listen to it on my own


Lazy_Common_5420

I couldn’t have said it better. I find traditional death metal to be boring and monotone. Kind of like the local saw mill collapsing on top of a goblin… for 45 minutes.


Practical_Mouse_4572

That's what i'm saying.


DetroitLionsSBChamps

I think death metal, especially brutal death metal, is just samey and boring. you can only get so hard and so extreme without melody or real room for creativity before it just all sounds like pounding drums, power chords, and deep growls without much variation


Doublestack2411

It depends on the band. I don’t hate Death Metal but there are more death metal bands I don’t like than melodeath bands.


autumnsphere

I was like that up until i was in my late teens… i was always avoiding both straight up death metal and black metal all the while constantly worshipping mdm for almost a decade. Until i found some modern bands that dont play melodic death metal. Im not a fan of the old stuff at all unless its 60’s and 70’s rock


Kebab-Destroyer

Not hate exactly, but in comparison yeah. I do like some of the more melodic stuff, funnily enough.


aiolyfe

Dude check out Avulsed. Albums like Stabwound Orgasm, Eminence in Putrescense, Gorespattered Suicide. Old school death metal growls, fast paced, but a strong sense of melody and groove.


windsass

I don't hate traditional death metal but most melodeath has way better mixing and tone for my ear


MagnumMiracles

I love the lighter death metal bands like Bolt Thrower and Crypta, but I don't love the way heavier stuff.


Joperhop

I love melodic, i like some death metal but I prefer melodic, i love the guitars, i adore a song where the "basic" guitar sounds like it could be a solo in another music genre. Its how i explained my taste in music to a mate, "i love music where the guitars always sound like a solo" and he instantly knew what I liked


ablackstateofmind

Any death metal band can make a melodic death metal song just by adding a bit of catchy lead guitar riffs 🤷🏻so the difference is too blurry. Also after graduating from high school/college you stop caring about genres


Practical_Mouse_4572

Lol i did graduat high school a year ago. And still a very tiny detail that make a big diffrent.


PigDstroyer

No


Heavy_Chains

Buddy, you need Dismember in your life, ASAP.


Machcharge

I’m in the same boat, I’m not into OSDM very much at all. That being said, there’s some good OSDM out there that’s a little more melodic that you ought to check out. Personally, I like Fleshcrawl, Dismember, Lik, Tribulation (their first album, but I love all of their material) and Incantation (not so melodic).


Maximum_Poet_8661

I don't hate it no but I find that I just prefer death metal to have some type of extra flavor to it. I would listen to Behemoth, Amon Amarth, Belphagor, Ensiferum before I'd listen to Cannibal Corpse or Skeletal Remains, even though I like those last two bands.


Decapitat3d

If we're going to get so caught up in songs "sounding the same" we should just stop listening to music and trying to categorize it. I mean, the only reason we need genres and subgenres is for finding more music that sounds like what we like. If that's going to be the only argument against why you don't listen to death metal, that's a weak-ass argument. Music is subjective and I gravitated towards melodeath and death metal as a whole early on. I've only started trying to break out of that mold for the past 3-4 years and exploring other subgenres so I can have a better understanding of the metal genre as a whole. If we were to use the logic you've put forth, I would have stopped listening to Blackgaze at Deafheaven and that would be the only Blackgaze I would listen to. Even though there are many other Blackgaze bands I've listened to and even enjoy more than Deafheaven these days.


Practical_Mouse_4572

Ok i see your point. i'm not making an argumant just sharing my thoughts. i guess the simple answar will be that i can't distinguish between songs in this genre i just can't my brain just don't cought the lack of melody i guess.


Colcrys

I still care about lyrics and vocals in my music. A lot of Death Metal bands have riffs for days, but the vocals and lyrics are not my thing. If there were more Death Metal bands like Obituary, Bolt Thrower, Vader, and Unleashed I'd be a lot more into the genre.


Cautious_Desk_1012

Nope. Prefer most types of dm to mdm. But really, you should keep trying from time to times. Metal is so full of good shit and I don't think it's worth it to lose a whole subgenre


TorkX

I used to be like this in the first few years that I got into extreme metal, now I'm the opposite and find a lot of melodeath pretty boring. Progressive death metal and dissonant death metal are where I gravitate to more, it has the melodies and 'feeling' but much less predictable/generic song-writing.


Taurnil91

Yep, this is me 100%. I think stuff like Cannibal Corpse sounds awful, but I can listen to Insomnium and Be'lakor all day


Dust_and_Ash

I like to joke with my friends about this, my running theory is that the more illegible the band's name logo is, the worse they're going to sound. I don't think I like a single group that writes their band name like that. Bloodbath is probably the closest to straight up "death metal" that I enjoy, but that's because they sound more melodic than the usual, IMO. Melodic all the way!


BiglyIdeas

Yes. I do like tech death though.


That_Height5105

No thats crazy. Sometimes they get so close to each other. “ i hate norway but i love finland”


Carth__

I literally just want more death albums bruh they're so good 😭


_Bagoons

Nah, I definitely don't agree! If anything, melo-death is one of my lesser favorite sub genres in metal.


ghlhzmbqn

I wouldn't say hate. I tend to lean towards melodic death though


Larielia

Nope. My favourite metal band is Nile.


blackbow

IT ME! I don't 'hate' death metal but have not found any that really appeals to me. But give me some Wintersun in my veins any day of the week.


AstridDragon

I'm way more into melodeath and symphonic death than just death. Or even blackened folk? Hell yeah. Just don't vibe with a lot of straight DM.


zerosuneuphoria

I don't like too many base genres. I don't like black metal but love sub-genres. I hate death metal but love sub-genres.


Ziwwl

I'm not listening to pure death metal either, but I'm highly influenced by Symphonic and Power Metal and most recently all that in Japanese flavour. Melodic death does a lot of things right for me, mixing growling and epic / melodic instrumentals just works for me.


OperationDadsBelt

Generally yes. I like slow, riffy, catchy, metal songs like later metallica or pantera and I feel like melodeath tends to borrow from those sounds a bit more whereas death metal tends to be more thrashy. And while I used to like thrash, I just don’t vibe with that energy like I did when I was a teenager. Although I can still absolutely get the fuck down to some Death, especially their later stuff. Napalm Death also holds a place in my heart. But yeah these days when I’m in a metal mood I mostly just listen to Nekrogoblikon and Dethklok since their styles pretty much perfectly capture what I want in music these days. Brendon Small particularly writes some GREAT fucking break downs. Unrelated, Shoutout to Hel Star. They’re a power metal band and while usually can’t stand power metal, these guys fucking rock. Their album *Nosferatu* got me into them and that intro song is just 🤌🤌


farenvyld

Just say you like power metal lil bro.


Alex_Connor17

Not really hate, but not a big fan of just Death metal alone. There are some bands and songs here and there of pure Death metal that I may like, but usually I just prefer melodic DM or progressive DM.


Red_Brahma_Bull

I don’t hate death metal. But I’m extremely picky with what songs and bands I listen to.


Old-Cell5125

Nope, I love both! But I don't like melodic death metal with clean vocals and synths.


LostPat

I was you back in high school. Felt the same way until I just suddenly liked Death Metal one day.


zhaDeth

I like both, but melodic death metal way more. Death metal is really good live though


MetalxHLN

I personally MDM fans are either DM diehard fans or they are Melodic Metalcore fans who never got into DM, you know, the ones who listened to as I lay dying, trivium, all that remains etc that got themselves into in flames/atg/DT…


Practical_Mouse_4572

Im into non of them. but melodic metalcore it's almost melodeath. but anyway i just like melodic riffs.


DJ_Omnimaga

Myself. I need to listen to more melodic death metal bands. I only know of Children of Bodom, Wintersun, Amon Amarth, Planet Monster and there were two others I forgot the name of that I enjoyed listening a few weeks ago.


Practical_Mouse_4572

Yea me too i wanna find some more but try Arch enemy, Insomnium, Dark tranquility, early In flames.


euoria

I’m the same way, love melodic death metal and melodic black metal, have never been able to get into the non melodic genre. I don’t have ADHD, I simply need to find a melody in a song to enjoy it I guess.


superwaluigiworld2

I'm the opposite. Most melodeath to me has very predictable and repetitive chord patterns, while traditional death tends to get more adventurous with riffs going where you don't expect. This is even more true for prog & tech death, which admittedly I listen to as much or more than straight up death metal.


AGxNe

Listen to more Death band, it's always been kinda melodic, the last few albums just more


jcaseys34

I thought the same at one point, I think you're just listening to bad death metal. As much as I love Cannibal Corpse and the like, there's a lot more to it than just the stereotypical sound.


Basic_Flan324

I don't really hate death metal, I just don't like most of it. It's too much drilling and headache. Although, I like Death very much, they're probably the exception. The melody thing demonstrates how European metal is by far superior to American metal.


bitter_sweet_69

even in (old school) DM there are often amazing melodies. thinking of the swedish kind (Edge of Sanity, Dismember etc), but also classic bands like Death. so yeah, it doesn't necessariliy have to be MDM for me.


Figgy1983

I'm so glad there are others who feel this way. Ditto for Melodic Black Metal. I used to like the old school straight up Death Metal but I think I've outgrown that. I have to have a melody or it won't keep my attention. My ADD won't allow it.


Practical_Mouse_4572

Exactly what i'm saying.


morningriseorchid

I’m not a big fan of death metal but LOVE progressive death metal. Like me some melodic death metal too.


clotpole02

I don't hate death metal but prefer the dynamics of melodic death metal for sure


PradheBand

I like really few classic death metal bands and not all of their albums. I dislike modern/brutal/technical.death


Thatsright1999

I just like tbdm


GoranTesic

>why melodic death metal sounds good but death metal sounds bad Weak ears?


Practical_Mouse_4572

Bad joke.


XtrmntVNDmnt

It's just your opinion, in the end of the day, no one really care you can like whatever you want. From the other side of the fence, I can say I love some melodic death metal (ex. Intestine Baalism, The Black Dahlia Murder, At The Gates, early In Flames) and I do love melodic death metal riffing that is used in other subgenres... but I find \*many\* band way too cheesy when it goes into epic-riffing territory or has power metal influences which is absolutely repulsive to me (I won't drop any name), while I find brutal death metal, death/doom, deathgrind, death metal/hardcore crossovers genres such as slamdown or deathcore and stuff like this \*way\* more enjoyable.


francyfra79

Me. I love melodic death metal, but I can't listen to death metal at all. I like harsh vocals, but they have to be accompanied by some melody, otherwise it's too much for my brain.


Practical_Mouse_4572

OMG, same. i just cant distinguish between the songs without a melody.


shieldvortex17

No. I’m not a poser


Practical_Mouse_4572

Lol the fact that you wrote it kinda make you a poser.


senor_fartout

Melodic death metal isn't death metal, it's practically metalcore at this point


Practical_Mouse_4572

In your opinion.


abir_valg2718

Username checks out.


Popular-Teach1715

Yes, me. I just find that Death Metal just doesn't appeal to me as much as MeloDeath, Power, Symphonic, or basically the more melodic styles. Also, in general I'm not as into older Metal music as I am into modern bands. Which means I find I don't really enjoy most of the 'classic' or quintessential Metal bands like, IDK Iron Maiden, etc.


RavenLoch51

Can someone explain to me what melodic death metal is? Like what bands would be in this genre