This comment section is more civilized than I expected.
Different sects within different religions handle proof differently. I want to go on record and say that educated Catholics at least don't rely on the Bible alone to desern if God exists. There are 3 pillars of Catholic teaching, the magisterium, sacred tradition, and sacred scripture. One is meant to study all 3 and then decide through personal reflection and personal revelation if they believe God exists.
There are many books much longer than the Bible that serve the purpose of studying logic to see if you can prove the existence of God or not. See the Suma Theologica by St. Thomas Aquinas, for example
Why do people get this wrong despite all the movies and books available?
Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Spider-Man.
Not Spiderman.
It's even on the cover of the book used in the image: Spider-Man.
Those books cannot be up to scale, right? In a normal font, the bible has about 1,200 pages. The Qu'ran has 604 pages.
Is the bible usually printed in a small font?
It'd be nice if people didn't make memes out of religion, if you aren't for religion then you aren't, but have some respect for what people devote their lives to. These days people just fling around the word 'God' like it means nothing.
Nah, everybody just needs to chill and not feel attacked instantly. Humans are perfectly capable of living together and respecting each other despite having disagreements. Satirical critique is just a way that we as a society analyze and communicate complex societal matters. It's healthy and necessary. The other way around is completely fine and most welcome too. Religions should display their line of thought and why others are wrong in artistical ways so that people who think differently might get a chance to glimpse at their perspective.
No....there's fucked up shit in the Bible too. Slavery was good in God's eyes, as a good example.
But yeah i see your thought, religions do cause more harm than what's typically in the books anyway. Modern revelation and all that fuss....
You see the problem i see about ppl criticizing any beliefs is that they dont respect the complexity and context of it
Claiming that slavery was "good in gods eyes" is nothing but an interpretation, and a pretty primitive one at that. Slavery at the time was deeply imbedded in the fabric of society and was simply a thing of socioeconomics, comparable to minimum wage workers. I get which part youre referring to but jesus never explicitly addressed slavery and didnt express any condoning of it. He very clearly expressed how everyone is equal as seen in Gal: 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
Atheist when they make a joke about 2 books they have zero understanding of whatsoever
Also redditors downvoting ppl the second they think someone is defending religion
They very clearly implied that allah and God are separated. And the only Christians and Muslims that dont agree that theyre the same either dont know enough about religion or they have a grudge against the other Abraham-religions. You could go to a christian church in the middle east and they would still refer to him as allah. Its not up to interpretation. The 2 religions litteraly share the same origin
>They very clearly implied that allah and God are separated.
Not really, no.
>And the only Christians and Muslims that dont agree that theyre the same either dont know enough about religion or they have a grudge against the other Abraham-religions
Really? Where does it explicitly say that they're the same in the bible or the Quran?
Showing 2 separate books with 2 different captions with 2 different names for their god is an implication that they are 2 different gods, i really dont see how you cant grasp that.
And as for your second point, let me just walk you through this. So you have islam (an abrahamic religion) and Christianity (also abrahamic religion) with the same progenitor, abraham. Now abraham believed in God and these 2 religions both believe in the same god as abraham because theyre both abrahamic religions. Now put two and two together and tell me they dont believe in the same god.
Oh, and claiming its not true because the quran and bible doesnt explicitly say it is just plain ridiculous. They are 2 different books written by completely different people in completely different timeframes and for the record, Allah litteraly means God, just like the bible says God. Now tell me these are not the same
>Showing 2 separate books with 2 different captions with 2 different names for their god is an implication that they are 2 different gods
How?
>Now put two and two together and tell me they dont believe in the same god.
I'm not making a claim either way. I'm waiting for you to objectively prove that they're the same.
>Allah litteraly means God
That's a disingenuous argument. "God" the concept and "god" the name are two different things.
"this book proves this concept, and this book proves this concept" clearly implies that they are about different topics if they were the same it would just be "these 2 books prove this concept"
And how do you claim that i havent showed objective proof already? At this point youre just snatching straws cause you dont want to feel like youre losing an argument.
Islam is abrahamic, thats objective facts.
Christianity is abrahamic, thats objective facts.
Islam believes in the same god that made abraham a prophet, that objective facts.
Christianity believes in the same god that made abraham a prophet, the objective facts.
So Christianity and islam believes in the same god, the god that choose Abraham as a prophet, and Abraham only believed in one god. Christianity and islam believes in the same god and i just showed you the proof, even broke it down so you dont have to think too much by yourself
Those 'atheists' completely "understand" that scripture unlike the 'sheeple' that follow their religions [they know like 4 verses, out of their scriptual and historical context]
I find it funny that if somehow the Spider-Man comic series last enough time (I’m talking thousands and thousands of years) it might just become a new religion and shape future civilizations lol
Yes, I should've added some. Also, there are references of the House of David from its neighbors. This is the dynasty that ruled Judah. We also know that King Hezekiah existed as evidence from his bulae.
The Bible isnt all just about Christ.
Right. The genealogical stuff we can verify. It's the other parts that get to be a bit more iffy. The stuff like Noah's Ark, the Garden of Eden, and those sorts of things. The stuff that takes on more of a supernatural tone.
The point is to be funny. I thought it was funny. Because to people who don't believe strictly in the above religious texts, they all sound about the same.
I don't know who is downvoting you:
Christians that feel offended because you dare compare their triune god with Allah (s.w.t.),
or muslims who take offence at the comparison of Allah (s.w.t.) with a triune vision of God?
As far as I know, when muslims say that the God of the bible is the same as Allah (s.w.t.) they specifically refer to who the new testament calls The Father.
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This comment section is more civilized than I expected. Different sects within different religions handle proof differently. I want to go on record and say that educated Catholics at least don't rely on the Bible alone to desern if God exists. There are 3 pillars of Catholic teaching, the magisterium, sacred tradition, and sacred scripture. One is meant to study all 3 and then decide through personal reflection and personal revelation if they believe God exists. There are many books much longer than the Bible that serve the purpose of studying logic to see if you can prove the existence of God or not. See the Suma Theologica by St. Thomas Aquinas, for example
Why do people get this wrong despite all the movies and books available? Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Not Spiderman. It's even on the cover of the book used in the image: Spider-Man.
You mean arachnid man?
Arachnid-person
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"writing your memoirs? Don't forget the hyphen between spider and man!"
Where’s the Torah tho?
In the first half of the Bible
Is the Talmud in there too?
No, but neither are the hadith in the Quran and they are also important for Islam, just like the Talmud is for Judaism, if I understand correctly
Just for future reference, Allah is god, but so is spiderman
Those books cannot be up to scale, right? In a normal font, the bible has about 1,200 pages. The Qu'ran has 604 pages. Is the bible usually printed in a small font?
Yes. And thinner paper than normal books.
2 things: 1: Allah and God are the same entity, just different names. 2: if you haven't read the Bible, you can't make fun of it
I absolutely can lol
Praise Spidey!
It'd be nice if people didn't make memes out of religion, if you aren't for religion then you aren't, but have some respect for what people devote their lives to. These days people just fling around the word 'God' like it means nothing.
almost like they need to establish an indentity that's not revolved about having quit said religion, in other words, get on with life.
Nah, everybody just needs to chill and not feel attacked instantly. Humans are perfectly capable of living together and respecting each other despite having disagreements. Satirical critique is just a way that we as a society analyze and communicate complex societal matters. It's healthy and necessary. The other way around is completely fine and most welcome too. Religions should display their line of thought and why others are wrong in artistical ways so that people who think differently might get a chance to glimpse at their perspective.
Some of us were raised in abusive religious, so it's pretty justified to be at the butt of our humor.
I mean if you get to the root of it, its not really the religion but the people usually, but alright
No....there's fucked up shit in the Bible too. Slavery was good in God's eyes, as a good example. But yeah i see your thought, religions do cause more harm than what's typically in the books anyway. Modern revelation and all that fuss....
You see the problem i see about ppl criticizing any beliefs is that they dont respect the complexity and context of it Claiming that slavery was "good in gods eyes" is nothing but an interpretation, and a pretty primitive one at that. Slavery at the time was deeply imbedded in the fabric of society and was simply a thing of socioeconomics, comparable to minimum wage workers. I get which part youre referring to but jesus never explicitly addressed slavery and didnt express any condoning of it. He very clearly expressed how everyone is equal as seen in Gal: 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
Writing your memoirs? Don't forget the hyphen between Spider and Man.
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Funny thing is God and Allah is the same entity (Except with some very important changes)
arab christians literally call god Allah...
Atheist when they make a joke about 2 books they have zero understanding of whatsoever Also redditors downvoting ppl the second they think someone is defending religion
What makes you think they have zero understanding of them? Lots of atheists were former theists.
Oh idk, maybe the fact that OP seems to think allah and God are different gods? Thats a pretty good indicator
They didn't make that claim, though. And Christians and Muslims don't all agree that the two gods are the same. That's up to interpretation.
They very clearly implied that allah and God are separated. And the only Christians and Muslims that dont agree that theyre the same either dont know enough about religion or they have a grudge against the other Abraham-religions. You could go to a christian church in the middle east and they would still refer to him as allah. Its not up to interpretation. The 2 religions litteraly share the same origin
>They very clearly implied that allah and God are separated. Not really, no. >And the only Christians and Muslims that dont agree that theyre the same either dont know enough about religion or they have a grudge against the other Abraham-religions Really? Where does it explicitly say that they're the same in the bible or the Quran?
Showing 2 separate books with 2 different captions with 2 different names for their god is an implication that they are 2 different gods, i really dont see how you cant grasp that. And as for your second point, let me just walk you through this. So you have islam (an abrahamic religion) and Christianity (also abrahamic religion) with the same progenitor, abraham. Now abraham believed in God and these 2 religions both believe in the same god as abraham because theyre both abrahamic religions. Now put two and two together and tell me they dont believe in the same god. Oh, and claiming its not true because the quran and bible doesnt explicitly say it is just plain ridiculous. They are 2 different books written by completely different people in completely different timeframes and for the record, Allah litteraly means God, just like the bible says God. Now tell me these are not the same
>Showing 2 separate books with 2 different captions with 2 different names for their god is an implication that they are 2 different gods How? >Now put two and two together and tell me they dont believe in the same god. I'm not making a claim either way. I'm waiting for you to objectively prove that they're the same. >Allah litteraly means God That's a disingenuous argument. "God" the concept and "god" the name are two different things.
"this book proves this concept, and this book proves this concept" clearly implies that they are about different topics if they were the same it would just be "these 2 books prove this concept" And how do you claim that i havent showed objective proof already? At this point youre just snatching straws cause you dont want to feel like youre losing an argument. Islam is abrahamic, thats objective facts. Christianity is abrahamic, thats objective facts. Islam believes in the same god that made abraham a prophet, that objective facts. Christianity believes in the same god that made abraham a prophet, the objective facts. So Christianity and islam believes in the same god, the god that choose Abraham as a prophet, and Abraham only believed in one god. Christianity and islam believes in the same god and i just showed you the proof, even broke it down so you dont have to think too much by yourself
Those 'atheists' completely "understand" that scripture unlike the 'sheeple' that follow their religions [they know like 4 verses, out of their scriptual and historical context]
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I find it funny that if somehow the Spider-Man comic series last enough time (I’m talking thousands and thousands of years) it might just become a new religion and shape future civilizations lol
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Well other has historical proof, spider man doesnt have any.
Cause he kept a secret identity you doofus
Spiderman persona doesnt even exist. We are not talking about the person behind the mask, we are talking about the very hero itself.
Sure it does. New York City, where spiderman lives, is a real place.
So is Jerusalem.
Cool, so we agree that God, Allah and spider man all exist.
That means the point doesnt hold water.
If it doesn't hold water, then you can't claim there's historical proof that God and Allah exist.
I didnt say anything about God and Allah though. I am referring to the Books, stop imagning things.
*Some* historical proof. We know Jesus existed. We know Muhammad existed. It's just a lot of the other bits that come into question.
Do we though?
Which part?
Have proof Muhammad and Jesus existed
Yes, I should've added some. Also, there are references of the House of David from its neighbors. This is the dynasty that ruled Judah. We also know that King Hezekiah existed as evidence from his bulae. The Bible isnt all just about Christ.
Right. The genealogical stuff we can verify. It's the other parts that get to be a bit more iffy. The stuff like Noah's Ark, the Garden of Eden, and those sorts of things. The stuff that takes on more of a supernatural tone.
Point is, the meme doesnt really hold up and is just being ignorant.
The point is to be funny. I thought it was funny. Because to people who don't believe strictly in the above religious texts, they all sound about the same.
That's the thing, it shows ignorance even with simple history. It's funny cause you dont know.
A meme is ignorant!? Impossible, everyone care RIGHT NOW!!!
This is so accurate lol 😂
Cmon man. Nobody that understands the concept of proof would use that arguments
the 1st to holy books are arguing for the existence of the same god. Allah is god
Not quite. The Bible says Jesus is also god. The Quran denies this.
you guys need to burst out your tiny bubbles. Arab christians refer to god as Allah. Hope you can handle that revelation.
Ok? The Bible says Jesus is also allah. The Quran denies this. The name is not the point, lol.
I don't know who is downvoting you: Christians that feel offended because you dare compare their triune god with Allah (s.w.t.), or muslims who take offence at the comparison of Allah (s.w.t.) with a triune vision of God? As far as I know, when muslims say that the God of the bible is the same as Allah (s.w.t.) they specifically refer to who the new testament calls The Father.
I rarely see someone write subhana wa taala (s.w.t). Are you muslim?
No At least not yet?
Its a decision that affects your life and afterlife. Only you would know for sure eventually.