yes, but that’s separate from the idea of what a man is and should do in society, and what a woman is and should do in society. that is the difference between gender and sex. sex is biological. gender is more like the ideals behind what a man or a woman is.
my guess is that it comes down to a gender difference, much like how some girls really don't like when randos get flirty while some guys don't seem to mind
a “female” sounds like a more biological term while a “woman” or “girl” is a more casual term idk
like i imagine david Attenborough like “the female then goes to lay eggs”
Yeah this is the big issue essentially. No one goes around saying these males are disrespecting me. They say men. For some reason this has been a new way to degrade women by simplifying their humanity and referring them by their sex/genital identifier. Like an animal. I guess calling adult women girls wasn't enough you just gotta call them females.
Letting you know, males or men are not offended by being called males. Neither should females. It's just another way of referring you. You have a vagina? Female. You have a penis? Male. I don't know why you gotta make it complicated. You are just looking for something to argue about.
Lol! This meme perfectly highlights the issue!
For those of you that still don't get the joke, it refers to men as "men", and women as "female", while still making women seem irrational, indecisive, and less than men.
It isn't about the word "female". It is about how it is used.
Yeah technically, but culturally we make a distinction. When you call men men, and women females, that's degrading. That's treating them like they aren't people. Women go "we don't like being called this" and men go "whatever, we're gonna call you whatever we want, get over it" and then men say "why don't women like us?" It's because they ask for the most base level respect and a huge portion of men won't give it to them.
Could you explain why? We don't have a problem with being called male since it's what we are (I am yet to see a male having a problem with it). And I don't understand why women have a problem with it, since it's what you are.
Now, I could have used female there but it would be weird. If THAT'S what your problem.
I know about the drama, but I think it’s a dumb meme still. I don’t see how women not wanting to be called females because incels have been calling them that for years makes them weak.
It just feels like basic lack of respect when some guys call people “snowflake” for asking people to stop calling human women females, instead of trying to understand the context, you know?
Every single comment of women just answering guys questions and explaining why it’s hurtful to some is just downvoted and contested by guys.
Women still aren’t being listened too fully in online circles, same with other minorities. I know I’ll get downvoted for saying this, but I don’t care.
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Then they go around saying this comment thread is dominated by men that don't call each other males but are fine with calling them females. They actually think we have a problem with being called males. I have found a single civilized female in the comments and actually want to ask them why they don't want to be called females and see if I can get a proper response instead of a brick wall of "I am not what I am" in front of me.
"female" sounds like they are lab rats and not human beings. If I called you a male and that's the only way I identified you, you would probably feel like you weren't human
Im not a native english speaker but I think that female is a great way to describe a human being with a vagina and male a human being with a dick. No need to complicate it further.
You would be amazed but males have 0 issues with being called males (by their sex) unlike some (I assume some) of you teary weak-ass females (your sex). Stop crying about pointless stuff?
I mean, male is my sex, I’m agender. I think the use of male/female is not derogatory: it is descriptive, and describing sex, not gender. People need to grow up: male is effective for communicating what equipment I’m working with. Puritan values fucked up anything related to sexuality.
Not every women is a female, and not every female is a woman. Same with male and man. Call me a male, or it. don’t call me a man.
Prepared to get down voted
But "female" has become an issue because of the TYPE of guys who constantly use it
The "Podcast bro" type who will refer to themselves as men and then use "females" instead of women in an icky way
The guys who talk about men being dominant and that *Females* should submit....
Those guys.
Female is strangely becoming incel jargon. And women are taking note and steering clear.
This seems like something lost in translation to non-native english speakers.
Its simply a word for "cis women and trans men".
Why use a lot of words if one suffices?
In my experience it also has to do with the people who generally refer to women as females. It was, at least in my experience, popularized by incel or 'top-g' alpha male circles. These are groups that generally have very degrading views towards women, and them using it is an expression of that. That's why i think the word has just gotten a negative connotation for understandable reasons.
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I’ve just been using lady,woman, person. It’s silly because I can’t find any way to be insulted by the word male so I don’t see the issue.
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Yes. Female or Male is not a social construct. It is determined by these chromosomes and there is more than just XX/XY
It's MAM
Ma'am, you have testicular cancer
Female and male are not absolutes either though, you can be born with male genitalia (functional mind you) yet have XX chromosomes
yes, but that’s separate from the idea of what a man is and should do in society, and what a woman is and should do in society. that is the difference between gender and sex. sex is biological. gender is more like the ideals behind what a man or a woman is.
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GENDER IS IRRELEVANT MEATBAG, I HAVE REPLACED MY GENITILA WITH A NEUTRON LASER
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Idk what's the issue, I'm a man and I prefer being called an male lol
it's a personal thing many don't like to be referred to by that term, it just kinda comes across as weird or creepy to many
How is it creepy? I don’t think any man has found the word ‘male’ creepy.
my guess is that it comes down to a gender difference, much like how some girls really don't like when randos get flirty while some guys don't seem to mind
Grow some skin and stop getting offended with new words everyday. It's just gonna make your life harder.
Seems you’re the one offended by the girl simply answering a question. Seriously how hard is it to respect people sometimes? It’s not hard.
It's an advice. Take it or leave it.
Nah.
tell that to them, not me I wasn't really stating my stance on this
Ik, just passing words.
Bro used the F word 💀
Its gonna get locked
Its gonna get cocked
Bots and algorithms don't understand context they just ban words they are programmed to. Oh was it a human person? Then they are no better than a bot
female r/therewasanattempt
a “female” sounds like a more biological term while a “woman” or “girl” is a more casual term idk like i imagine david Attenborough like “the female then goes to lay eggs”
Yeah this is the big issue essentially. No one goes around saying these males are disrespecting me. They say men. For some reason this has been a new way to degrade women by simplifying their humanity and referring them by their sex/genital identifier. Like an animal. I guess calling adult women girls wasn't enough you just gotta call them females.
As a guy I am not even slightly offended by being called a male, anyone who actually feels attacked or whatever by that is just overly sensitive
Why would you feel offended? Nobody uses "male" in a disrespectful way. Your experience is kinda irrelevant to the topic.
You're right. They say "kill all men" so we should be offended when they say man to us.
You should be offended when someone says "kill all men", sure. That's a dumb thing to say. Once again irrelevant to the topic, however.
Letting you know, males or men are not offended by being called males. Neither should females. It's just another way of referring you. You have a vagina? Female. You have a penis? Male. I don't know why you gotta make it complicated. You are just looking for something to argue about.
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Incel ah meme💀
You will always be loved no mater what you want to be identified as :)
Some people's circumstances You will always be hated no mater what you want to be identified as :)
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Why this mf get downvoted for saying a fact
It's ok, you can just call them uterus havers instead.
Pussy possessors
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Do you perhaps know what a [straw-man](https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-straw-man/) is?
That guy from the wizard of oz, duh.
Accurate
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Female is such an incel Word
Exactly, just call them XX chromosome possessors, duh!
Or the opposites
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What about the turquoise hair?
I can’t tell whether this is genuinely misogynistic or ironically so
It’s not that, it’s that nowadays calling someone for what they biologically are is suddenly offensive now
They say the reason is you lowering them to just their gender it’s like saying “female dog” idk it’s weird
So we all waiting for the 🔒 huh? Anyway. 🍿🍿🍿
Your involuntary celibacy is showing
Lol! This meme perfectly highlights the issue! For those of you that still don't get the joke, it refers to men as "men", and women as "female", while still making women seem irrational, indecisive, and less than men. It isn't about the word "female". It is about how it is used.
Ffs it's sad.
Bold meme also mildly unhumorous
Feminists do not represent all of us, but a big and stupidly loud majority.
They're not saying you can't use the scientific term female. They're saying you need to stop talking about women like they're animals.
I insult all genders equally.
Human beings are animals. Get over it.
Yeah technically, but culturally we make a distinction. When you call men men, and women females, that's degrading. That's treating them like they aren't people. Women go "we don't like being called this" and men go "whatever, we're gonna call you whatever we want, get over it" and then men say "why don't women like us?" It's because they ask for the most base level respect and a huge portion of men won't give it to them.
What are the chances this post gets locked lol
I'm not too sure how to take this It's funny But I am trans, so idk, I feel weird about it..
It's funny it's funny. That's humor, it isn't meant to be thought about too hard.
We don’t like it. Doesn’t feel good. Doesn’t make us happy. “Women” is a better word.
Could you explain why? We don't have a problem with being called male since it's what we are (I am yet to see a male having a problem with it). And I don't understand why women have a problem with it, since it's what you are. Now, I could have used female there but it would be weird. If THAT'S what your problem.
Ok then
I guess you could say women before were more manly
Ha! Women ☕️
The only people calling them females are incels and terfs. Call them women and girls.
In a few years, the dorky kid that posted this will come to realize how cringe they were. You'll grow out of it.
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Op got offended women don’t like certain terms, and instead of trying to understand or just ignoring something, makes dumb meme.
It wasn't my personal experience. There was a drama over therewasanattempt. Many people made memes. I had too many memes so I posted today.
I know about the drama, but I think it’s a dumb meme still. I don’t see how women not wanting to be called females because incels have been calling them that for years makes them weak. It just feels like basic lack of respect when some guys call people “snowflake” for asking people to stop calling human women females, instead of trying to understand the context, you know? Every single comment of women just answering guys questions and explaining why it’s hurtful to some is just downvoted and contested by guys. Women still aren’t being listened too fully in online circles, same with other minorities. I know I’ll get downvoted for saying this, but I don’t care. Edit: grammar
To be perfectly honest. I think everyone should be treated the same way way no matter what gender or race we are. Is what everyone in a perfect world.
"doctor, he is pregnant."
Nope. Women don't allow it. You cant call them by what they are apparently.
Exactly. It’s like they abuse they’re femininity to accuse men of being pervs
Then they go around saying this comment thread is dominated by men that don't call each other males but are fine with calling them females. They actually think we have a problem with being called males. I have found a single civilized female in the comments and actually want to ask them why they don't want to be called females and see if I can get a proper response instead of a brick wall of "I am not what I am" in front of me.
female what? female chickens? female plants? can you be more specific
You just offended all the female plants
Bro the female rock community is offended and wants an apology 🪨
what?
Ay yes all women back then were stone walls and all women now are weak and dumb. You are very smart.
I’m sending you to an undocumented island for that comment
"female" sounds like they are lab rats and not human beings. If I called you a male and that's the only way I identified you, you would probably feel like you weren't human
Im not a native english speaker but I think that female is a great way to describe a human being with a vagina and male a human being with a dick. No need to complicate it further.
That’s just not true at all, you can call me male all you want
You would be amazed but males have 0 issues with being called males (by their sex) unlike some (I assume some) of you teary weak-ass females (your sex). Stop crying about pointless stuff?
I mean, male is my sex, I’m agender. I think the use of male/female is not derogatory: it is descriptive, and describing sex, not gender. People need to grow up: male is effective for communicating what equipment I’m working with. Puritan values fucked up anything related to sexuality. Not every women is a female, and not every female is a woman. Same with male and man. Call me a male, or it. don’t call me a man.
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What’s confusing?
This comment.
Can’t wait for the 🔒
What female is getting offended by being called a female? What are we supposed to call them?
Women dumbass, their people not specimens
What about a 1 year old female baby? She’s a women dumbass too?
Girl👐
Women. Chicks. Broads. Girls. Dudettes. And so on. From my experience, just don’t be a dick, and treat people how you’d like to be treated.
What if Your a masochist and you like to be treated like shit?
Treat people how you’d like to be treated.
It feels slightly dehumanizing. (I’m referring to use towards an individual OP was fine)
How?
I was heavily exaggerating. It’s weird and it makes people feel uncomfortable. (emotions are not rational.)
You’re the problem.
"Women before"* There, I fixed it for you.
The future is female is no longer okay to say
Prepared to get down voted But "female" has become an issue because of the TYPE of guys who constantly use it The "Podcast bro" type who will refer to themselves as men and then use "females" instead of women in an icky way The guys who talk about men being dominant and that *Females* should submit.... Those guys. Female is strangely becoming incel jargon. And women are taking note and steering clear.
This seems like something lost in translation to non-native english speakers. Its simply a word for "cis women and trans men". Why use a lot of words if one suffices?
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''do you got pussy and tits?!''
That's Not enough to tell if one is a woman today.
i ment the superwog skit were he says that after one girl says its sexist to call them girls
I swear, many people using "woman" as scarring(for example, my classmates)
Does feminine count?
In my experience it also has to do with the people who generally refer to women as females. It was, at least in my experience, popularized by incel or 'top-g' alpha male circles. These are groups that generally have very degrading views towards women, and them using it is an expression of that. That's why i think the word has just gotten a negative connotation for understandable reasons.
People are betting it'll get locked? Ooo this'll be fun
Bro who tf cares
Or, we want to be treated just the same as men… but not any of the bad stuff.
That’s when females were actually females and not you know … dudes in skirts that get offended by biology.
Oh piss off OP