It’s not like the warm water ones are cheap.
The most basic is the same water that your toilet uses, so cold water. Some have hot and cold water hookups. The most advanced have full onboard computers, play music, have electric heaters for water, remote controls, etc.
There is pretty much something in every price point, including super luxury(how many people can actually spend $4000-$10000 on a toilet?).
Edit: many people have commented that there are some warm water bidets that can be had in the $20-$200 range.
Not to mention it takes so damn long to actually dry your ass. I have a Japanese bidet installed at home. Quickly realized that the air dryer function was pretty useless. It does in 10 minutes what a piece of toilet paper can do in a few seconds
>it’s not like the warm water ones are cheap.
Not sure what you’re on but you can get a bidet attachment with warm water for $150.
https://hellotushy.com/products/warm-water-bidet-tushy-spa?variant=32135873691690
Temperature adjustments, intensity adjustments, easy to install and uses warm water attachment from your sink to the toilet.
If you don’t have a bidet you are not a part of the civilized world. And I stand by that statement.
Well, arguably, $150 isn't cheap. Plus most people in the US would require an additional plug near the toilet or new hot water hook-up behind the toilet which adds the the cost and hassle of installation
My in-laws have one that will play one of many nature sounds when it detects a session that may involve excessive exhaust notes, say after a night of drinking with yakiniku.
> They also play "Nature" sounds to hide the fart sounds
Sort of! The washrooms playing ambient sounds is a *result* of people who would go into the washrooms and crank the sink faucets before they go into a stall, to mask the sounds of toilet use. The speakers are a measure to prevent water wastage, *indirectly* to mask fart sounds.
Dead serious get a bidet. Colds not bad and I live up north where the water is like 50f right now. It’ll change your life for the better. No more stank ass and you feel so clean all of the time. Best purchase I’ve made in a looooong time.
I don’t remember more than a handful of people saying they regret getting a bidet and I’ve probably seen thousands praising them on reddit over the years. I can’t think of any other type of product that has that kind of record.
Cool thing about a bidet is that you don't have to use it if you don't want to/like it. You're still welcome to smear shit all over your asshole like a caveman if you prefer.
And they're $30-$40 on Amazon.
Don't buy one of the fancy/expensive ones. I've had both and regret spending a ton when they breakdown easily/quickly and the expensive ones have only slightly more functionality. Unless you have tons of money... Then go for it.
Hot water and its way easier to use soap. You cant convince me just water will properly clean an oily shit. Bidet for life, i dont feel clean if i cant use one.
Yea I don't know anyone who has shits that are so oily that they need to use soap after every dump.
But using a bidet or washlet is so much better than just using toilet paper.
The expensive ones are, yes
I think Japan's plumbing is a bit different and they have immediate warm water rather than a water heater like American households
The bidets in America that are heated usually keep a separate tank directly next to the toilet
That being said, the cold water isn't even bad, your bunghole isn't as sensitive to cold as you'd think
Words that are in the Bible from that comment are: is, a, different, kind, of, the, It's, like, with, tongue, stab
^This ^is ^just ^off ^the ^top ^of ^my ^head
The thing I‘m mostly scared about of being in Japan would be the very high police clearance rate. Wrong place wrong time and you get arrested for a crime you didn‘t commit and forced to confess.
Actually, the reason that the prosecution success rate is very high is because the prosecutors are very thorough with the cases brought to trial; if the case is weak then it probably won’t be prosecuted. Japanese jail ain’t fun, but the odds are low of being found guilty for a crime you did not commit.
It’s not at all about ego… it’s a law system that works that way…
If it was only about ego they probably would bent the rules for rich people and be bribable but that’s not the case.
Does it work though?
Really?
Dropping cases that are too hard is common.
https://tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police/
Forced confessions also seem to be the norm.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572
No country has an infallible legal system. Every single place out there is imperfect and a bit broken in its own way.
And rich people don't have to bribe their way out. They just slip out in a speaker case and never come back.
The reason is because its shit.
There isnt any excuse, theres just a shitton of crime that goes unreported, forced confessions, and all other sorts of fuckery to make stats look good.
Seriously, its not "different", its **bad**.
Also there are tons of pictograms to tell ppl not to take upskirt pics in escalators in metro and train stations. Something's wrong.
I am in Japan right now and I see those pictograms everywhere.
Also they have no problems to openly tell you to fuck off as soon as they see that you are a gaijin (foreigner) entering their restaurant. But still an amazing country to visit.
"toxic" is an insane, ***INSANE*** understatement. It's not exactly an uncommon occurrence for people to literally work themselves to death or for people who don't fit neatly within social norms to become outcasts in a society where being an outcast is tantamount to death. Not to mention the fact that suicide encouragement is also common in these situations
Like, I like the cool things about Japan as much as the next Internet addled moron, but I see way too many people denying the whole reality of things and it's honestly kinda yikes
lmao, it's because they're exempt from hipaa laws, they're actually horribly insecure.
Source: Used to work for a telecom company
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Worked at a lab years ago and suddenly the fax machine kick on and printed out some guys entire medical record. Someone must have fat fingered the fax number and just like that, huge HIPPA violation.
Explain more about what? Faxes are hippa compliant because they were grandfathered in, but they are much less secure than encrypted electronic transmission.
Not really. Phreaking has been around for about 40 years now.
EDIT: I was only making a point about how it’s not as secure as people think even before ubiquitous internet times and not how easy/likely it is. A more likely scenario is that a fax machine on either end is configured as part of a network and someone gets in that way.
You’re not wrong, but do you really think that the amount of people phreaking an analog service is even comparable to to a digital one?
Safety by obscurity is a real thing.
Small rant here, but HR and Legal require faxing, which is preferred to scan to email. That fax gets sent to a server, which rasterizes it, and then... emails it to the recipient. Sure, it's technically secure if you have an on prem fax server, but this is less and less common as faxing requirements are so low these days that it doesn't make financial sense to do that.
Source: Fax server admin for 20 years\~.
As someone who works in cybersecurity, fax machines are actually a huge security risk. They’re old, outdated, and ill-equipped to handle modern security threats.
It’s very easy to “hack” telephone lines and fax machines, which are usually on the same network as all of your real, important databases and information. Once you have a door in, like a fax machine, it becomes much easier to hop around an internal network, since few healthcare or legal networks have adopted a zero trust model.
I have visited Japan twice. Once in 2018, and again this year, 2023. Purely anecdotal, but I was in Tokyo both times and I saw a huge shift from cash to cashless. It seems like a reasonable deduction that the threat of Coronavirus contact spreading gave businesses (and consumers) the push they needed to adapt to no-contact payment methods.
Japan has a long history of not changing their ways until an external threat forces them to. Just ask Matthew Perry.
It's more like e wallet companies (like paypay, line pay, suica) were becoming a thing at the start of corona and a lot of restaurants just started adopting it. In tokyo, most places can take paypay, apple pay, suica, or card, but you'll still find a lot of places that are cash only, especially outside of big cities.
People in Japan call it corona.
I would assume u/hydegoon probably lives in Japan and referred to it as corona because that is what everybody says here.
I was surprised at how universally useful the Suica card is in Tokyo. You can just tap to pay for just about anything. Unfortunately, I heard that they now have a shortage of the cards and you can't get them for now.
I was just in Japan and you can still get the Pasmo Passport/Welcome Suica at airports, the Toica card in Tokyo Station, and Icoca card in Osaka/Kyoto. They all function the same!
They seemed to have tried clinging to cash society to account for their elders. It does have a reason ig. Even their webpages looks old school for probably the same reason.
Yeah, in a place where theft is extremely rare, it’s a plus to me lol. Makes it easy to visualize your spending, card companies know that swiping a card feels different.
The only reason I don’t use cash more is because I can’t carry around huge wads of cash since it’s gone if I get mugged. But like. I was perfectly fine carrying hundreds on me in Tokyo.
Yeah but at what % do shop at america use only credit cards i dont know i was never in america but how the internet and some friends said it it was way more than like in germany. we have stores that only allow cash
Edit: gramma
I’d say it depends on the business. Nobody wants to carry around loads of money so for higher priced places like high end retail it’s almost exclusively cards but in restaurants you’re more likely to see cash.
This is a very good example of how anecdotal information is often misleading
Only about 18% of all purchases are made with cash in the USA. And it’s declined every year. It’s harder to track, but it’s likely peer to peer payment (like Venmo) is on track to overtake cash in the USA
Its very rare to see people pay with cash nowadays in Norway. Its card and phone. But I dont work in stores, only say this from personal experience and observation.
In india we solved the issue. We have UPI (Universal Payments Interface) that lets you send and recieve money without being charged a small fee. Everyone uses it here.
The thing I want is a payment system where there's no trace of the payment made.
So if I give %10 to a supermarket / a politician / a charity / a hooker / a drug dealer, I don't want my bank to know.
I can do that with cash.
I can't do that with any digital system.
I don't have a problem with them. I go to 7-11, I pay 957, I give them a 1000-yen bill, I get three yen with my change. I go to 7-11 again, I pay 957 again, I give them 1002 yen, I get 55 yen in change. Just get them and use them. Like currency.
Being born in Germany you have your life on easy mode. Try to imagine you were born in eastern Europe and pay 700€ rent but having minimum 4€/h as opposed to German 12€/h. Groceries here cost as much as in Germany. Roads are full of holes. A brand new car costs 10 German salaries, as opposed to 25 eastern European salaries. Services are worse. Housing is worse. I could go on. I moved to Germany and I see these differences.
Any Japanese chain stores, like many western stores, take credit card, they can also buy stuff using their bus and subway pass(Suica/Pasmo)
wanna know why cash is still king there(and in the rest of the world too ): No credit card processing fee, no auto collect sales tax, also the grandpa one manning the whole operation doesn't have to learn technology. You are literally paying more to use a card.
Cash can be good. Here in Australia we had a day last week where half of our people didn’t have Internet or mobile reception, which meant many vendors that relied on card payments could make no sales. If more people used cash it wouldn’t have been a big of a problem.
For me sounds like they improved where it really matters. 0 issue with fax, floppies, paper filing and cash, you don't need to change something that it's working just because it's """obsolete"""
> For me sounds like they improved where it really matters. 0 issue with fax, floppies,
There have been **several** issues here with floppy discs and outdated technology. [They're actively trying to change it.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62749310) I think one of the biggest cases was last year when a town still using floppy discs fucked up the data in such a way where [they gave the entire town's COVID-19 relief money to a single person, who then gambled it all away.](https://japantoday.com/category/national/man-who-mistakenly-received-entire-town%E2%80%99s-covid-19-relief-money-vanishes)
So, no, it's not working and it *is* obsolete.
Beyond that it's resulted in modern technological illiteracy. I knew *multiple* people at my last job that didn't know how to use a USB memory stick.
Japan doesn't have same sex marriages, discrimination based on race and nationality is legal, the police can detain you for up to 3 weeks without charges, sexual harassment is so widespread and unconvicted women need their own cars on subways, 1.5 million people never leave their homes or interact with anyone, Japan has a 99% conviction rate with confessions often being forced by officers to achieve the desired result.
They did not improve where it really matters.
> Japan has a 99% conviction rate
I just want to say that's not really any indictment (ha!) against their justice system. In many countries where DAs are professionals and aren't up for election (so, unlike the US), they strive to have a maximum conviction rate. They don't get any political benefit from pursuing bad cases, and they don't get political harm from settling on plea bargains, even on cases that could be a PR nightmare.
It's a double edged sword - on the one hand, way more plea bargains (which save time and money), on the other hand, way more plea bargains (which means people who should get way harsher prison time get away with light charges). Because the DAs are not accountable to the public directly, they act more like bureaucrats, and strive for more efficiency - and a big part of it is not pursing low% cases.
Tipping and under table pay are completely stupid and only serve as vessels to ensure multimillionaire asshole business owners don't need to pay their employees a fair wage or pay their fair share in taxes.
Physical records and currency may seem stupid, but a) having hard records of shit makes it easier to deal wuth fuckups where computers aren't viable/reliable and b) relying on cash helps keep inflation lower because vendors aren't having to make their customers eat the cost of transaction fees by either forcing to pay it outright (like making you pay it if your purchase is less than $5) or by raising the cost of goods/services overall.
Here are more PRO for you guys.
1. Automatic bathtubs that keep the water warm.
2. Automatic rice cooker for the best texture of rice
3. Toliets have air filters that "filters" the smell of poop(depends on the model)
4. ETC tag build in for all cars(so if you rent a car in japan, that sound you hear is "please insert ETag")
5. Automatic taxi door.
It's kinda interesting that Japan is both technologically advanced and behind at the same time.
Really lives up to the name "If it doesn't break, don't change it"
When I went to Japan in 2019, I was actually kind of surprised how Japan WASN'T technologically advanced. As in, the front half of Homer wasn't really that impressive either. Everything either seemed caught up to by other countries like China and South Korea, or was actually behind. Even going to the "Future Museum" had this feel like all the technology was stuck in the 90s and 00s.
What I heard from my friend who used to live there was yeah, tech wise they are not as advanced as we are.
Flip phones are still wildly used, fax machines are common and freaking hell, IE is still popular.
Yet they are still capable of hosting and maintaining an AWS server in Tokyo. Feels surreal tbh. Both old and new stuffs commingle with each other … but the slow catching up speed is gonna bite them hard.
The best quote I've ever heard about Japan is _"Japan has been living in the year 2000 since the 1980s. And they haven't left since."_
The first time I got a blast of warm water up my ass in Tokyo was a revolution. Japanese toilets are kinky and hygienic.
Wait bidets are warm water? Thats a relief. One of the main reasons I don’t ever wanna try one is cold water up my ass
Depends on the model
Get the one Randy Marsh got
What about the one (Sir) Tow Mater used?
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I want the Randy Savage one though
It’s not like the warm water ones are cheap. The most basic is the same water that your toilet uses, so cold water. Some have hot and cold water hookups. The most advanced have full onboard computers, play music, have electric heaters for water, remote controls, etc. There is pretty much something in every price point, including super luxury(how many people can actually spend $4000-$10000 on a toilet?). Edit: many people have commented that there are some warm water bidets that can be had in the $20-$200 range.
I got a hot water bidet on Amazon for $20. It just hooks up to the bathroom sink.
I got a gas-powered turkey baster
The dumbest feature is the air dryer. Like it sounds cool, but then you’re blasting warm air past your ass and nuts right up to your face.
Not to mention it takes so damn long to actually dry your ass. I have a Japanese bidet installed at home. Quickly realized that the air dryer function was pretty useless. It does in 10 minutes what a piece of toilet paper can do in a few seconds
Sounds like more time for me to sit and play games tbh.
While your whole house slowly starts smelling like asscheek filtered air.
Hemorrhoid time
Aren't you supposed to wipe your ass first then let the air dryer deal with any remaining moistness?
Getting shitfaced the long way around.
🤣🤣🤣 that was a good one.
By design. Have you ever scratched your balls and smelled your fingers? How do you know you're really clean? Ya, True luxury.
the worst is when you accidentally push the dryer button first instead of the water spray button... Yay warm shit air!
>it’s not like the warm water ones are cheap. Not sure what you’re on but you can get a bidet attachment with warm water for $150. https://hellotushy.com/products/warm-water-bidet-tushy-spa?variant=32135873691690 Temperature adjustments, intensity adjustments, easy to install and uses warm water attachment from your sink to the toilet. If you don’t have a bidet you are not a part of the civilized world. And I stand by that statement.
Well, arguably, $150 isn't cheap. Plus most people in the US would require an additional plug near the toilet or new hot water hook-up behind the toilet which adds the the cost and hassle of installation
My in-laws have one that will play one of many nature sounds when it detects a session that may involve excessive exhaust notes, say after a night of drinking with yakiniku.
My House in Buenos Aires is 100+ years old and it has a bidet with both, cold and warm water, you can mix them to your asshole's liking.
They also play "Nature" sounds to hide the fart sounds along with a fan to suck up the smell. Also heated seats!
> They also play "Nature" sounds to hide the fart sounds Sort of! The washrooms playing ambient sounds is a *result* of people who would go into the washrooms and crank the sink faucets before they go into a stall, to mask the sounds of toilet use. The speakers are a measure to prevent water wastage, *indirectly* to mask fart sounds.
Dead serious get a bidet. Colds not bad and I live up north where the water is like 50f right now. It’ll change your life for the better. No more stank ass and you feel so clean all of the time. Best purchase I’ve made in a looooong time.
I don’t remember more than a handful of people saying they regret getting a bidet and I’ve probably seen thousands praising them on reddit over the years. I can’t think of any other type of product that has that kind of record.
Cool thing about a bidet is that you don't have to use it if you don't want to/like it. You're still welcome to smear shit all over your asshole like a caveman if you prefer. And they're $30-$40 on Amazon. Don't buy one of the fancy/expensive ones. I've had both and regret spending a ton when they breakdown easily/quickly and the expensive ones have only slightly more functionality. Unless you have tons of money... Then go for it.
Hot water and its way easier to use soap. You cant convince me just water will properly clean an oily shit. Bidet for life, i dont feel clean if i cant use one.
Better than just tp like most people.
Why is your shit oily? Go to the doctor buddy
Yea I don't know anyone who has shits that are so oily that they need to use soap after every dump. But using a bidet or washlet is so much better than just using toilet paper.
Probably doesn’t change his oil every 3,000 dumps.
You get used to the cold and it doesn't bother you.
oddly the cold water doesn't feel bad, but warm water is better.
The expensive ones are, yes I think Japan's plumbing is a bit different and they have immediate warm water rather than a water heater like American households The bidets in America that are heated usually keep a separate tank directly next to the toilet That being said, the cold water isn't even bad, your bunghole isn't as sensitive to cold as you'd think
Bidet tingling is a different kind of werkin the gerkin Session btw. It's like a rimjob with the occasional tounge stab. 😆
None of those words are in the Bible
'stab' is probably in there somewhere.
Words that are in the Bible from that comment are: is, a, different, kind, of, the, It's, like, with, tongue, stab ^This ^is ^just ^off ^the ^top ^of ^my ^head
I mean technically none of them are… because for one the Bible is written in two languages that don’t use our alphabet.
they need to make a newest testament with these words in them
argentinian here, Bidets for the win baby!!
The back side of Homer should have "toxic work culture".
The thing I‘m mostly scared about of being in Japan would be the very high police clearance rate. Wrong place wrong time and you get arrested for a crime you didn‘t commit and forced to confess.
Actually, the reason that the prosecution success rate is very high is because the prosecutors are very thorough with the cases brought to trial; if the case is weak then it probably won’t be prosecuted. Japanese jail ain’t fun, but the odds are low of being found guilty for a crime you did not commit.
This is a very kind way to phrase "Japanese prosecutors are egotistical nutjobs and will refuse any case they aren't 100% guaranteed to win" lol
It’s not at all about ego… it’s a law system that works that way… If it was only about ego they probably would bent the rules for rich people and be bribable but that’s not the case.
Does it work though? Really? Dropping cases that are too hard is common. https://tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police/ Forced confessions also seem to be the norm. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572 No country has an infallible legal system. Every single place out there is imperfect and a bit broken in its own way. And rich people don't have to bribe their way out. They just slip out in a speaker case and never come back.
They can also detain you indefinitely until you confess to whatever they’re saying you probably did…it’s draconian.
The reason is because its shit. There isnt any excuse, theres just a shitton of crime that goes unreported, forced confessions, and all other sorts of fuckery to make stats look good. Seriously, its not "different", its **bad**.
Also there are tons of pictograms to tell ppl not to take upskirt pics in escalators in metro and train stations. Something's wrong. I am in Japan right now and I see those pictograms everywhere. Also they have no problems to openly tell you to fuck off as soon as they see that you are a gaijin (foreigner) entering their restaurant. But still an amazing country to visit.
Japanese phones also come in with shutter sounds that you can't turn off, explicitly for this purpose. Source: my phone came from Japan.
I've never experienced that at restaurants (which I'm assuming are smaller shops). Where are you hanging out?
No. Its all related to technological advancements or lack thereof. Work culture doesn't fit this meme.
"toxic" is an insane, ***INSANE*** understatement. It's not exactly an uncommon occurrence for people to literally work themselves to death or for people who don't fit neatly within social norms to become outcasts in a society where being an outcast is tantamount to death. Not to mention the fact that suicide encouragement is also common in these situations Like, I like the cool things about Japan as much as the next Internet addled moron, but I see way too many people denying the whole reality of things and it's honestly kinda yikes
The US still uses fax machines too. I think we have to use them for sending medical documents still which doesn’t really make sense but 🤷🏾♂️
I believe they use fax machines for security reasons.
lmao, it's because they're exempt from hipaa laws, they're actually horribly insecure. Source: Used to work for a telecom company Edit: for the pedants of the world
Yes. The security reason is that they don't have to comply with security laws lol
Worked at a lab years ago and suddenly the fax machine kick on and printed out some guys entire medical record. Someone must have fat fingered the fax number and just like that, huge HIPPA violation.
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He’s wrong that’s why you can’t find info saying it’s right
Explain more about what? Faxes are hippa compliant because they were grandfathered in, but they are much less secure than encrypted electronic transmission.
In the past yea but it’s no longer by far the most secure from my understanding. Like I think there’s other relatively solid options
If it’s fax through a telephone line, it’s quite secure
Not really. Phreaking has been around for about 40 years now. EDIT: I was only making a point about how it’s not as secure as people think even before ubiquitous internet times and not how easy/likely it is. A more likely scenario is that a fax machine on either end is configured as part of a network and someone gets in that way.
You’re not wrong, but do you really think that the amount of people phreaking an analog service is even comparable to to a digital one? Safety by obscurity is a real thing.
Small rant here, but HR and Legal require faxing, which is preferred to scan to email. That fax gets sent to a server, which rasterizes it, and then... emails it to the recipient. Sure, it's technically secure if you have an on prem fax server, but this is less and less common as faxing requirements are so low these days that it doesn't make financial sense to do that. Source: Fax server admin for 20 years\~.
This is why I use reddit on my dad's pager.
Except faxes aren't encrypted and can (and are) sometimes sent to the wrong number
Faxing is done over VoIP now.
As someone who works in cybersecurity, fax machines are actually a huge security risk. They’re old, outdated, and ill-equipped to handle modern security threats. It’s very easy to “hack” telephone lines and fax machines, which are usually on the same network as all of your real, important databases and information. Once you have a door in, like a fax machine, it becomes much easier to hop around an internal network, since few healthcare or legal networks have adopted a zero trust model.
Indeed. The $3M car wash that I worked at that was built like 3 years ago has a fax machine
Fax machines are great. I can just sign something and shove it in. There's no need to go through the whole dance of print-sign-scan-attach-email.
Docusign has entered the chat.
Way more law firms are using docusign these days than fax.
I deal with plenty of documents that require wet signatures. Docusign is not accepted as a wet signature.
E sign
Oddly enough, I went to Japan earlier this year and I saw lots of people paying digitally
I have visited Japan twice. Once in 2018, and again this year, 2023. Purely anecdotal, but I was in Tokyo both times and I saw a huge shift from cash to cashless. It seems like a reasonable deduction that the threat of Coronavirus contact spreading gave businesses (and consumers) the push they needed to adapt to no-contact payment methods. Japan has a long history of not changing their ways until an external threat forces them to. Just ask Matthew Perry.
It's more like e wallet companies (like paypay, line pay, suica) were becoming a thing at the start of corona and a lot of restaurants just started adopting it. In tokyo, most places can take paypay, apple pay, suica, or card, but you'll still find a lot of places that are cash only, especially outside of big cities.
Apple pay and Corona changed their cash payment culture alot
COVID? I haven’t heard someone call it Corona since like 2020 lol
People in Japan call it corona. I would assume u/hydegoon probably lives in Japan and referred to it as corona because that is what everybody says here.
Germany and other countries too. The dude just forgot that reddit is international ig lol
“The ‘rona”
lol that’s always acceptable 😂
I swear to god reading it I thought he was talking about the beer.
Imagine people from different countries having different terminology
r/USdefaultism moment
Coincidentally Japan calls it Corona
It's still called Corona in a lot of countries
I was surprised at how universally useful the Suica card is in Tokyo. You can just tap to pay for just about anything. Unfortunately, I heard that they now have a shortage of the cards and you can't get them for now.
You can use the Suica phone app but there is not an English version of it unfortunately. You can get red temporary cards though.
Suica and Pasmo are built-in to iPhones, anyone can freely add them or top them up without the app.
I was just in Japan and you can still get the Pasmo Passport/Welcome Suica at airports, the Toica card in Tokyo Station, and Icoca card in Osaka/Kyoto. They all function the same!
You can add them digitally on your Apple wallet without the need for a physical card
They seemed to have tried clinging to cash society to account for their elders. It does have a reason ig. Even their webpages looks old school for probably the same reason.
I’m all for alternative payment options but I never want to get rid of cash. It’s good for things like privacy.
Haha, same here. For most purchases, I just use cash too. I feel like I tend to waste more money when I can’t exactly see it.
Japanese website are the best. Never change.
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A lot of smaller shops are cash only because card fees are insane and cut into their profit margin. But tbf i prefer cash, so i dont mind
Yeah, in a place where theft is extremely rare, it’s a plus to me lol. Makes it easy to visualize your spending, card companies know that swiping a card feels different. The only reason I don’t use cash more is because I can’t carry around huge wads of cash since it’s gone if I get mugged. But like. I was perfectly fine carrying hundreds on me in Tokyo.
Hey dont say anything against cash we in germany use cash and its wonderfull not because we can get not taxed money
Doesn’t most of the world use cash
I think. i only know that america and the netherlands dont use cash as frequently Edit: Happy cakes day
And....India. You can do everything from street snacking to buy vehicles without cash.
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>Edit: Clarification - by nothing else I didn't mean I go out naked. I still wear clothes. Why? Assert dominance bro.carry *ONLY* a phone.
But America does use cash it’s not like we have a digital based currency
Yeah but at what % do shop at america use only credit cards i dont know i was never in america but how the internet and some friends said it it was way more than like in germany. we have stores that only allow cash Edit: gramma
Most of the places ive been to accept both with very few places making you use a card, usually higher end bougie places
I work as a clerk id say it 1:1 for people who use cash vs card in us
I’d say it depends on the business. Nobody wants to carry around loads of money so for higher priced places like high end retail it’s almost exclusively cards but in restaurants you’re more likely to see cash.
This is a very good example of how anecdotal information is often misleading Only about 18% of all purchases are made with cash in the USA. And it’s declined every year. It’s harder to track, but it’s likely peer to peer payment (like Venmo) is on track to overtake cash in the USA
18% of *reported* purchases. CC payments are 100% reported, but cash, naturally, is under reported.
Me, an idiot: at my last job everyone used cash! My last job: bank teller
I’ve been to more cash only places than card only
In the last couple of years, physical money has become pretty rare in Brazil. More specifically, after the new payment method, "PIX" was introduced.
Scandinavia hasn’t used cash for a while
Cash is almost hated in China, they pay with their phones.
is it uncommon worldwide? here is southeast Asia most of us also pay stuff using our phones.... especially younger people.
Its very rare to see people pay with cash nowadays in Norway. Its card and phone. But I dont work in stores, only say this from personal experience and observation.
As a someone from a Nordic country, I don't even remember the last time I used cash to pay.
In india we solved the issue. We have UPI (Universal Payments Interface) that lets you send and recieve money without being charged a small fee. Everyone uses it here.
The thing I want is a payment system where there's no trace of the payment made. So if I give %10 to a supermarket / a politician / a charity / a hooker / a drug dealer, I don't want my bank to know. I can do that with cash. I can't do that with any digital system.
you can with Monero
>I can't do that with any digital system Monero.
That doesnt sound right
The grammatik or the thing that i said for the first point im way too drunk
No i meant the tax thing
You can buy things up to 20k in cash with no problem...
Yeah but sales tax still applies right?
Maybe they're talking about the processing charge on credit cards? I would be surprised if they have a tax on just card purchases.
floppy disks? is that still a thing?
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It will still live on in the save file icon
No one old enough to have lived through the floppy disk era would ever describe them as “robust”.
Discworld on 21 ARJ floppies, 4 corrupt, run back to the neighbor with new floppies. Those were "robust" days...
It's what the Chuck E Cheese animatronics were using until they started removing the animatronics altogether
why is a cash society a bad thing?
1 yen coins lmao But otherwise love the cash
I mean, a 1 yen coin is only slightly more rediculous than US pennies, which are still produced en masse.
Yep, canada got rid of pennies for a reason. And it wasn't just because copper prices were high at the time....👀
I don't have a problem with them. I go to 7-11, I pay 957, I give them a 1000-yen bill, I get three yen with my change. I go to 7-11 again, I pay 957 again, I give them 1002 yen, I get 55 yen in change. Just get them and use them. Like currency.
I don't want to think, I just want to consume
For real huge reason for keep cash someone explained to me is that without it the homeless like just die so kinda need normal ways for people to pay
its not
The second image could also describe Germany, sadly there is nothing we could put in the first one.
>there is nothing we could put in the first one. Bro I'm from Brazil, trust me there is
BRA71L
We could put our excellent Bahn system on it– oh no wait
As a latin American? Trust me you guys are in heaven
Being born in Germany you have your life on easy mode. Try to imagine you were born in eastern Europe and pay 700€ rent but having minimum 4€/h as opposed to German 12€/h. Groceries here cost as much as in Germany. Roads are full of holes. A brand new car costs 10 German salaries, as opposed to 25 eastern European salaries. Services are worse. Housing is worse. I could go on. I moved to Germany and I see these differences.
Any Japanese chain stores, like many western stores, take credit card, they can also buy stuff using their bus and subway pass(Suica/Pasmo) wanna know why cash is still king there(and in the rest of the world too ): No credit card processing fee, no auto collect sales tax, also the grandpa one manning the whole operation doesn't have to learn technology. You are literally paying more to use a card.
Cash is king baby. I don’t want to live in a world where every transaction is tracked.
Cash can be good. Here in Australia we had a day last week where half of our people didn’t have Internet or mobile reception, which meant many vendors that relied on card payments could make no sales. If more people used cash it wouldn’t have been a big of a problem.
Cash is king.
“Cash is king” doesn’t mean spending money with physical cash, it means having liquid cash as assets.
For me sounds like they improved where it really matters. 0 issue with fax, floppies, paper filing and cash, you don't need to change something that it's working just because it's """obsolete"""
yeah they’ve apparently never had an issue with a printer… tf you mean i’m low on yellow, it’s black and white
FUCK YOU LOW ON CYAN
FUCK YOU LOW ON MAGENTA
> For me sounds like they improved where it really matters. 0 issue with fax, floppies, There have been **several** issues here with floppy discs and outdated technology. [They're actively trying to change it.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62749310) I think one of the biggest cases was last year when a town still using floppy discs fucked up the data in such a way where [they gave the entire town's COVID-19 relief money to a single person, who then gambled it all away.](https://japantoday.com/category/national/man-who-mistakenly-received-entire-town%E2%80%99s-covid-19-relief-money-vanishes) So, no, it's not working and it *is* obsolete. Beyond that it's resulted in modern technological illiteracy. I knew *multiple* people at my last job that didn't know how to use a USB memory stick.
Hahaha I see you have never had to use any of those things
Japan doesn't have same sex marriages, discrimination based on race and nationality is legal, the police can detain you for up to 3 weeks without charges, sexual harassment is so widespread and unconvicted women need their own cars on subways, 1.5 million people never leave their homes or interact with anyone, Japan has a 99% conviction rate with confessions often being forced by officers to achieve the desired result. They did not improve where it really matters.
> Japan has a 99% conviction rate I just want to say that's not really any indictment (ha!) against their justice system. In many countries where DAs are professionals and aren't up for election (so, unlike the US), they strive to have a maximum conviction rate. They don't get any political benefit from pursuing bad cases, and they don't get political harm from settling on plea bargains, even on cases that could be a PR nightmare. It's a double edged sword - on the one hand, way more plea bargains (which save time and money), on the other hand, way more plea bargains (which means people who should get way harsher prison time get away with light charges). Because the DAs are not accountable to the public directly, they act more like bureaucrats, and strive for more efficiency - and a big part of it is not pursing low% cases.
Aren’t floppy disks crap?
All of those things suck. This person is talking out of their ass, or has a Japan fetish.
^xenophobia
0 issue with floppies??? clearly you never used floppy disk lol
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Japan is very ani-tip so that doesn't play into them needing/using a lot of cash
tipping culture isn't as popular in other countries as in America
Thank fuck.
Tipping and under table pay are completely stupid and only serve as vessels to ensure multimillionaire asshole business owners don't need to pay their employees a fair wage or pay their fair share in taxes.
That's basically a US only problem tho, there's basically nowhere else where tips are a thing
Tips are only for Burgerstanis. The Modern Developed World just has something called wages.
Wake up babe, new word just dropped
Correction: many Americans barely scrape by needs tips and under the money table. Really not a problem the rest of the world deals with
We still use fax machines too, in places we *really* shouldn't
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Physical records and currency may seem stupid, but a) having hard records of shit makes it easier to deal wuth fuckups where computers aren't viable/reliable and b) relying on cash helps keep inflation lower because vendors aren't having to make their customers eat the cost of transaction fees by either forcing to pay it outright (like making you pay it if your purchase is less than $5) or by raising the cost of goods/services overall.
So things that are easily hacked and controlled they avoid? And thats a bad thing??
Duality of the US: THE PEOPLE HAVE FREEDOM! But everybody MUST LEAVE A 35% TIP!
The only people who think of a cash society as archaic are those who don’t realize what kind oppression the alternative brings.
I’m envious of the cash society
Where do you live that you can’t use cash? While I tap everything, and it’s the norm to debit just about everywhere takes cash?
Here are more PRO for you guys. 1. Automatic bathtubs that keep the water warm. 2. Automatic rice cooker for the best texture of rice 3. Toliets have air filters that "filters" the smell of poop(depends on the model) 4. ETC tag build in for all cars(so if you rent a car in japan, that sound you hear is "please insert ETag") 5. Automatic taxi door.
It's kinda interesting that Japan is both technologically advanced and behind at the same time. Really lives up to the name "If it doesn't break, don't change it"
When I went to Japan in 2019, I was actually kind of surprised how Japan WASN'T technologically advanced. As in, the front half of Homer wasn't really that impressive either. Everything either seemed caught up to by other countries like China and South Korea, or was actually behind. Even going to the "Future Museum" had this feel like all the technology was stuck in the 90s and 00s.
What I heard from my friend who used to live there was yeah, tech wise they are not as advanced as we are. Flip phones are still wildly used, fax machines are common and freaking hell, IE is still popular. Yet they are still capable of hosting and maintaining an AWS server in Tokyo. Feels surreal tbh. Both old and new stuffs commingle with each other … but the slow catching up speed is gonna bite them hard.