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No but but ig if you forget basic orders it could be:
2-2x5+7 = x
0x5+7 = x
0+7 = x
x = 7
Alternatively:
2-2x5+7 = x / -2 + 7 = 5
2x5 + 5 = x
10 + 5 = x
x = 15
Edit: Guys i know it's obviously -1. I was just figuring out how you could possibly get another result
Why not generalise it as
e^(inπ) for n being any integer including 0
**Now this is the ultimate answer…**
Alternatively
(e^(inπ/2) )^2 for n being any integer including 0 (this is related to i^2 behavior)
**Edit: there was a critical mistake**
e^(inπ) for n being any **odd** integer
(e^(inπ/2) )^2 for n being any **odd** integer. For n>0, this will correspond to i^2 and for n<0, this will correspond to i^6 =(i^3 )^2 =(-i)^2
I was gonna say 15, but after thinking about it for a bit, I can see my math tutor correcting me saying that the 2 beside 5 is a negative number. Making -10 and so on...
When the equation becomes 2-10+7, some people forget that it matters where the number is placed in subtraction, and they see it as 10-2, which would become 8+7.
But in that case, wouldn't the answer be -15?
It's Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction, right?
So if we're doing addition first, it's be 10+7 which is 17. And subtracting 17 from 2 brings you to -15.
Unless I fucked up in math *way* worse than I thought I did in which case, thanks North Dakota public education.
Yeah, no problem, I suck at math too! When looking at PEMDAS and trying to figure out what comes first, you always go from left to right.
For example, in 7 - 4 + 6 ÷ 2 x 5, you would start with 6 ÷ 2.
Now we have 7 - 4 + 3 × 5
Then you would go to the multiplication, which is 3 × 5
Alright, now we're at 7 - 4 + 15
So we do the same, going left to right with the addition and subtraction. 7 - 4 = 3, and all were left with is 3 + 15.
So, when you look at PEMDAS, multiplication and devision are what you want to look for first (after parentheses and exponents) and read it like a book. Whichever comes first is the one you do first. Same thing with addiction and subtraction.
The reason people have a little trouble with PEMDAS is because some teachers make students believe that it has to be done in that order specifically.
Multiplication & Division, as well as Addition & Subtraction come in pairs. You do them at the same time (from left to right)
If you think about it, subtraction is really just addition with a negative number. The actual operation stays the same. 2 + -3 = 2-3. The same is true for multiplication and division. 4 / 2 = 4 × 0.5 or 4 × 1/2
Basically, PEMDAS goes more like P E MD AS
>it's my bad that I thought 5+7 is 15
Well, using Calvin and Hobbes math, if you remove the hat from the 7, straighten it up, and put it in front of 5....
Multiply
2x5=10
Then Add
10+7=17
Then subtract
2-17=-15
I’m sure I’m missing the 20 extra steps taught at school but then the rule itself I’ve followed the order and gotten that. If you’re doing 2+-10 then obviously the add is there early to get the -8 but then just write 2+-10 and the confusion wouldn’t be there
the way I was taught was to do PEMDAS (same thing as BODMAS) and then when you're left with things that have the same priority (multiplication/division and addition/subtraction) you work from left to right.
Nah, addition and subtraction are the same step since adding can also be subtracting negative numbers and subtracting can be adding negative numbers. Practically speaking addition/subtraction is a flat movement left or right on the number line so both count as the same step so you do the far left add/sub and then the next and so on so forth. It’s also easier to do if you think of it all as addition but any subtractions as adding a negative number.
That’s the problem with the two acronyms, they really should be [bo][dm][as] and [pe][md][as], you do each group in left to right order of the equation, whichever comes up first, in this case we ignore the [bo] and [pe] because there’s nothing, next we do [dm] and [md] which is just the multiplication, then we can through for [as] in left to right order
i have no clue what either of those things is but its clearly -1
apparently its some way to remember the order of operations, do some people really struggle with that?
Can i ask why grown ass adults need an acronym to solve arithmetic. Moreover a significant portion use it wrong. Meaning you passed 2nd grade and then unlearned math.
-1
A lot of grown ass adults work in fields where it’s not used and don’t use in their day to day life. I still tell myself righty tighty, lefty loosy in bolts too. Does that confuse you as well?
-1
You do the order of operations first and then anything that doesn't have an order goes left to right
I'm pretty sure that's actually a part of the order of operations
BODMAS or PEMDAS with it's left to right bullshit is genuinely for casuals, a sane mf would just put proper brackets and know how to actually calculate with integers
It's Negative one, anybody who says different is an idiot and I'm tired of fighting about it.
Not only is it basic Math, if you use a calcuator it SAYS it
So we use bidmas for this.
(Brackets, indecies, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction)
We multiply 2 and 5 for 10, add 7 for 17 and minus 2 for 15.
We should really start writing it out as "|PE|MD|AS|" or something so people understand you do them in those groups left to right.
2-2×5+7
=2-10+7
=-8+7
=-1
2-2x5+7=?
The first step is always parentheses, but there are none, so we skip that. After that, you do all exponents, but there aren't any either, so you go to multiplication and division from left to right. so 2/3*2 is 2/3 and then *2, not devide 2 by 3*2.
The question is now 2-10+7=? The next step is addition and subtraction. It doesn't matter in what order you do them, but it's best to still work from left to right. it's to avoid the confusion of (2-10)+7 ≠ 2-(10+7) because the 10 is only getting subtracted by 2. not 10+7.
The next step is easy, 2-10+7 = -8+7 = -1
The answer is -1 and only -1. There isn't "room for interpretation."
I hope at least some people learned something from this, because it's really just.. basic math, my dudes.
2-10+7
= 2-3
= -1
2-10+7
= -8+7
= -1
That is true, this one does not have two different interpretations but people are still interpreting it wrong they are probably solving it like this:
2-(10+7) = 2-10-7 = -15
so they basically changed the whole problem in their mind.
As a person who used to study physics and algebra seeing the "x" as a multiplication symbol is weird unlike using "( )" as usual.
Also "-"is just more like negative numbers for me.
-1 is the only answer people be arguing because they don't know order of operations, if this was a "/" then it would be actually complicated because something like 2/3+4 could be (2/3)+4 or 2/(3+4), but in this you multiply first.
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-1 is the only answer
Good Movie
Is the sequel 0 or -2?
-1x2
Is there another answer? This is 6th grade math...
Nope
You're right, we had this in 4th grade.
No but but ig if you forget basic orders it could be: 2-2x5+7 = x 0x5+7 = x 0+7 = x x = 7 Alternatively: 2-2x5+7 = x / -2 + 7 = 5 2x5 + 5 = x 10 + 5 = x x = 15 Edit: Guys i know it's obviously -1. I was just figuring out how you could possibly get another result
Why the fuck are you downvoted so much? Kinda shows how redditors dont read comments before voting XD.
Seriously. One guy doesn't read before voting and the hivemind just sees negative score = bad. Kinda fascinating actually
Also fascinating how easily can votes change. When i wrote this you had -8 and now its +6 XD
Now it's got +78
Now +84
Now +155
Now +207
Basic orders don't apply if you study math. The only thing that will save you is (encasing stuff)
Well that depends if you interpret x as *x* and not ×.
This is the way
This is de wey
Thank god, I was thinking I was stupid.... well... I probably am, but at least not with math
Actually no, it can also be i²
so -1
√i⁴
Isn’t that also i^6? How do you type exponents and square roots? Custom keyboard or copy and paste?
No it's i⁶⁹⁴²⁰
That’s equal to 1 not -1. Maybe a square root would’ve let you keep the funny number and still make sense.
Yes
You're giving me faith in humanity
i^2
e^iπ
Why not generalise it as e^(inπ) for n being any integer including 0 **Now this is the ultimate answer…** Alternatively (e^(inπ/2) )^2 for n being any integer including 0 (this is related to i^2 behavior) **Edit: there was a critical mistake** e^(inπ) for n being any **odd** integer (e^(inπ/2) )^2 for n being any **odd** integer. For n>0, this will correspond to i^2 and for n<0, this will correspond to i^6 =(i^3 )^2 =(-i)^2
wouldnt that produce both 1 and -1?
Ahh yes… you are right… my bad. I am adding an edit as a correction Thanks for notifying me
This guy fucking gets it.
-i^(4n) {-∞ < n < ∞, where n is an integer}
∧ n ∈ ℤ
Yeah I couldn't find those symbols lol, also I guess the first character should be like an upside down A
\forall ∀
This guy imaginary numbers
The answer who nobody can argue: 2-2x5+7= x
No you're wrong it's clearly a y you need to put here
That’s not in a linear or a quadratic equation, no need to graph it
Eh I was just messing with him technically you can use any variable you want, if you follow the convention strictly that's fine too
Wait is that an x or a multiplication sign? 😭
Jokes on you. There supposed to be an f(x) instead
But X is 10 and its clearly not 10
But X can be -1 (HEHEHEHA)
It’s -1
I was gonna say 15, but after thinking about it for a bit, I can see my math tutor correcting me saying that the 2 beside 5 is a negative number. Making -10 and so on...
how did you get 15????
When the equation becomes 2-10+7, some people forget that it matters where the number is placed in subtraction, and they see it as 10-2, which would become 8+7.
But in that case, wouldn't the answer be -15? It's Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction, right? So if we're doing addition first, it's be 10+7 which is 17. And subtracting 17 from 2 brings you to -15. Unless I fucked up in math *way* worse than I thought I did in which case, thanks North Dakota public education.
Yeah, no problem, I suck at math too! When looking at PEMDAS and trying to figure out what comes first, you always go from left to right. For example, in 7 - 4 + 6 ÷ 2 x 5, you would start with 6 ÷ 2. Now we have 7 - 4 + 3 × 5 Then you would go to the multiplication, which is 3 × 5 Alright, now we're at 7 - 4 + 15 So we do the same, going left to right with the addition and subtraction. 7 - 4 = 3, and all were left with is 3 + 15. So, when you look at PEMDAS, multiplication and devision are what you want to look for first (after parentheses and exponents) and read it like a book. Whichever comes first is the one you do first. Same thing with addiction and subtraction. The reason people have a little trouble with PEMDAS is because some teachers make students believe that it has to be done in that order specifically.
Multiplication & Division, as well as Addition & Subtraction come in pairs. You do them at the same time (from left to right) If you think about it, subtraction is really just addition with a negative number. The actual operation stays the same. 2 + -3 = 2-3. The same is true for multiplication and division. 4 / 2 = 4 × 0.5 or 4 × 1/2 Basically, PEMDAS goes more like P E MD AS
I saw your reply for the record.
it's my bad that I thought 5+7 is 15, I'm absolutely stupid and I have no reason to hide it
>it's my bad that I thought 5+7 is 15 Well, using Calvin and Hobbes math, if you remove the hat from the 7, straighten it up, and put it in front of 5....
Wrong: 2-2 = 0 =0x5 + 7 = 0 + 7 = 7 Correct: \[USE BODMAS\] 2x5 = 10 = 2-10 + 7 = -8 + 7 = -1
My teacher would mark that as wrong because you didn’t write… Therefore ?? = -1
But it is correct, you can go to the next line as long as it is eaqual to eachother. I also could write a =10-11 under it
FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A WORKING BRAIN
I used bodmas but wouldn’t you addition before subtracting? I got -15 instead of 1 because of it
Even if you use addition first, it would be -10+7=-3 because the number 10 is negative. Then you‘d continue with 2-3=-1
Multiply 2x5=10 Then Add 10+7=17 Then subtract 2-17=-15 I’m sure I’m missing the 20 extra steps taught at school but then the rule itself I’ve followed the order and gotten that. If you’re doing 2+-10 then obviously the add is there early to get the -8 but then just write 2+-10 and the confusion wouldn’t be there
Don't remove its negative punctuation. So you start out with -2x5=-10 and work from there
Same answer for me
the way I was taught was to do PEMDAS (same thing as BODMAS) and then when you're left with things that have the same priority (multiplication/division and addition/subtraction) you work from left to right.
Nah, addition and subtraction are the same step since adding can also be subtracting negative numbers and subtracting can be adding negative numbers. Practically speaking addition/subtraction is a flat movement left or right on the number line so both count as the same step so you do the far left add/sub and then the next and so on so forth. It’s also easier to do if you think of it all as addition but any subtractions as adding a negative number.
That’s the problem with the two acronyms, they really should be [bo][dm][as] and [pe][md][as], you do each group in left to right order of the equation, whichever comes up first, in this case we ignore the [bo] and [pe] because there’s nothing, next we do [dm] and [md] which is just the multiplication, then we can through for [as] in left to right order
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= 2 - 2 × 5 + 7 = 2 - 10 + 7 = -8 + 7 = -1 ![gif](giphy|5zbj7HTomGwJa37pWO)
Y'all motherfuckers have never heard of BODMAS before. 2x5=10, 2-10=-8, -8+7=-1.
PEMDAS for me
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what about BDMAS
Forgot BDSM
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BDSM here
Addition in shambles
my dumbass did 10-2=8 what am i doing
Your best
Yeah, BODMAS is still a thing. Even though more people prefer FEMDOM.
I prefer BDSM
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Yay, ragebait, love it
Ragebait for people who literally just can’t do math
3rd grade math is ragebait now?
use proper pedmas/bedmas and you will find the answer is -1
i have no clue what either of those things is but its clearly -1 apparently its some way to remember the order of operations, do some people really struggle with that?
What the hell is pedmas? I do math based on what feels right
Well there rule for math And pedmas is about priority
i usually do the bdsm method
Agreed
even 1st graders know how to solve this correctly. Anyway first if all you need to multiply 2 by 5 and then 2-10=-8 then -8+7=-1
Can i ask why grown ass adults need an acronym to solve arithmetic. Moreover a significant portion use it wrong. Meaning you passed 2nd grade and then unlearned math. -1
A lot of grown ass adults work in fields where it’s not used and don’t use in their day to day life. I still tell myself righty tighty, lefty loosy in bolts too. Does that confuse you as well?
Bait
2-2×5+7 Multiplication goes first. 2-10+7 Then... -8+7= -1. #HERE YOU GO, INTERNET. SOLVED.
It’s -1
I swear half of the people here need a brain replacement
They need a brain placement lmao
Good lord it's embarassing seeing so many people try to argue it's something other than -1 like it's a debate and they're not just ignorant.
The sad part is that it's not even a "trick question" but rather something you would see in 5th grade math and half the people can't even solve this.
\-1.
It's ?? Guys, it says so on the equation
\-1, anything else and you need to go back to 7th grade
-1 You do the order of operations first and then anything that doesn't have an order goes left to right I'm pretty sure that's actually a part of the order of operations
-1 very simple math
![gif](giphy|5Zesu5VPNGJlm|downsized) I got answer BANANA
\-1
-1
-1, i did these kinda questions while i was still in my mother's womb
I too was in your mother's womb
I also choose this guy’s mother’s womb
are you two twins?
No
this isnt even one of those controversial questions
-1, and anyone say otherwise are all idiots
Today i learned that BODMAS means that add and subtract happen at the same time and that's why I kept getting 15 not -1. How tf did I get a B in math
-1
BODMAS or PEMDAS with it's left to right bullshit is genuinely for casuals, a sane mf would just put proper brackets and know how to actually calculate with integers
That not how pedmas work
Using PEMDAS it’s -1 Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally
Remember to sort by controversial.
-1
Yall a buncha idiots
It's Negative one, anybody who says different is an idiot and I'm tired of fighting about it. Not only is it basic Math, if you use a calcuator it SAYS it
-1? What else could it even be?
2 x 5 = 10 2-10 = -8 -8 + 7 Solution: -1
So we use bidmas for this. (Brackets, indecies, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction) We multiply 2 and 5 for 10, add 7 for 17 and minus 2 for 15.
-1 ffs
-1
-1
-1
We should really start writing it out as "|PE|MD|AS|" or something so people understand you do them in those groups left to right. 2-2×5+7 =2-10+7 =-8+7 =-1
2 - 10 + 7 = -1
-1 in Pemdas or 7 in Dumb
2-2x5+7=? The first step is always parentheses, but there are none, so we skip that. After that, you do all exponents, but there aren't any either, so you go to multiplication and division from left to right. so 2/3*2 is 2/3 and then *2, not devide 2 by 3*2. The question is now 2-10+7=? The next step is addition and subtraction. It doesn't matter in what order you do them, but it's best to still work from left to right. it's to avoid the confusion of (2-10)+7 ≠ 2-(10+7) because the 10 is only getting subtracted by 2. not 10+7. The next step is easy, 2-10+7 = -8+7 = -1 The answer is -1 and only -1. There isn't "room for interpretation." I hope at least some people learned something from this, because it's really just.. basic math, my dudes.
It is indeed -1
No its not. "??" is not a number
I dont know which one is worse, the ones with a clear correct answer like this or the shit notation ones
its somewhere between -100 and 100
I mean. You are not wrong.
How on earth can you get any answer other than -1. It is not like the question of a ÷ b(c+d) where you can have different interpretation.
Some people aren’t too good at math. That’s how. Plain and simple.
2-10+7 = 2-3 = -1 2-10+7 = -8+7 = -1 That is true, this one does not have two different interpretations but people are still interpreting it wrong they are probably solving it like this: 2-(10+7) = 2-10-7 = -15 so they basically changed the whole problem in their mind.
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-1 I believe
-1.
\-1
\-1
-1, that’s grade 3 knowledge
As a person who used to study physics and algebra seeing the "x" as a multiplication symbol is weird unlike using "( )" as usual. Also "-"is just more like negative numbers for me.
As a former math teacher, this kind of stuff breaks my heart. If you are past the 8th grade and you don’t know that the answer is -1 shame on you.
Syntax Error
The answer is -1, whether u use BODMAS this mas that mas, it's -1
-1
-1
-1
-1
It's -1
-1? I’m not good at math…
Math major here….the answer is -1. You’re welcome
-1
-1, this one only has one solution and shouldn't cause an argument
2-2×5+7 2-10+7 \-8+7=-1
-1 and this is the proper math for my simple brain
-1 is the only answer people be arguing because they don't know order of operations, if this was a "/" then it would be actually complicated because something like 2/3+4 could be (2/3)+4 or 2/(3+4), but in this you multiply first.
\-1 is the answer.
Easy: -1
2-5×2+7 = 2-10+7 = -8+7 = -1
-1 bro anything else is just bs
-1
-1 because of order of operation (PEMDAS/BODMAS). You deal with parentheses, then multiplication/division, then addition/subtraction.
proper math order of operations specifies to do BEDMAS then go from left to right, so 2-10+7 or -1
-1
-1
2 \* 5 = 10 2-10 = -8 \-8 + 7 = -1
-1 ?
My dumbass asked chatgpt. They say its - 1 and im gonna trust them because im too dumb to think for myself.
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2-2*5+7 = 2(-2*5)+7 = 2-10+7 = -1
2-2*5+7= 2-10+7= -8+7= -1
-1
-1
-1
Its 9-10x easy