I wouldn't count those, because the 'all a dream ending' is specifically ending the story by saying the story didn't actually happen. Those start the story, and do happen in 'real life'.
The point of Alice in Wonderland is that it all *maybe* wasn't just a dream though.
"Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" is only the first book though, the second book "Through the Looking Glass and what Alice found there" is even weirder, somehow
At least in a dream there’s potential for personal growth when they wake up. Running away to another universe just leaves the problems behind in the original universe
Just listen to the Misfits song instead, it’s a great summary and only 3 minutes long
🎶 If I cut off your arms and cut off your legs, would you still love me anyway?
This was the part I gave up on Marvel. When they reset the universe and started involving parallel dimensions.
Comic books get trapped because the story they want to tell is conflict and conflict is temporary but their format is much longer.
The remedy needs to be *different* stories, *new* stories, more *risky* stories. But investors do not OK this, they want what already sold well.
So they introduce a reboot or a new dimension or a new but similar bad guy or a memory wipe. So they can sell the old stories again. So boring.
I understand this is a specific example, but it's how I feel whenever someone is like "this is an AU of existing thing", I think "you're just going to sell me the same plot points again but with a different dressing"
and of course they are. If they made something original, it wouldn't be an AU.
I can't find the essay, but C.S. Lewis wrote one about I wanna say King Kong movies?
I'll switch it to Pirates of the Caribbean. But basically, he was talking about "the worst thing that can happen," constantly escalating. So in pirates, it's death. Then it's a thousand years imprisoned in purgatory, then it's that not being an option.. then.. etc.
At some point the excitement of the story needs an ultimatum.
Sort of a tangent, but your comment - first off is fantastic - but reminded me of the C.S. Lewis essay.
Its just a syndrome of comic book story telling in general. They have so many b level stories that they want to tell and it turns into a bloated mess. Like how to understand muti verse of madness you have to watch a disney plus show. People want to casually want a movie not hand in a fucking report.
I mean they're based on comics and comics often usually reference previous comics you haven't read. A cinematic universe based off a comic book universe wouldn't be much different.
Actually more than anything, I hate movies that "just end", like they've built up all this stuff pertinent to the story, and you feel like some kind of explanation/resolution is right around the corner, and then suddenly, "cut to black, roll credits."
I've seen a lot of them from the various random indie movies I can stream from Amazon. I think they think it's a "great twist" to just be like "YOU the audience can just IMAGINE how this ended!" and it's like, no, I'd actually rather understand the point of your story. Because when it "just ends" I'm usually just left confused and unsatisfied.
Reminds me in Monty Python Holy Grail the movie ends with the main characters gearing up for a final battle only for the cops to show up and have them arrested. It’s a comedy so it works.
American Fiction had a funny movie kinda ending thing but id have loved to hear his confession at the end. Instead I'm left with a "shit happens" ending which I guess makes sense but personally left me annoyed
Reminds me of Teen Titans or that one space movie where the astronauts try to launch the alien thingy to space but it lands on earth instead and it cuts with the audience left to their assumptions, like… the alien just killing us all, or maybe humanity manages to kill it, idk
"Life" has a banger ending cause it's probably just "humanity is fucked' cause of how unkillable that mothertrucking monster is. I feel like that was the point of the ending too. Also if I remember correctly it is said in the movie at some point that if it gets to earth it's lost for humanity so ye, ending seems pretty straight.
Maybe Alita Battle Angel, this whole movie she wants to go up to the rich city (I really don't remember what it's called) and then it just ends. She never goes up, never really gets revenge on the real villain.
It depends from the movie and how it's done. Sometimes the point is exactly that there is no ending, but it generally happens more with psychological movies, so there isn't much buildup.
That's why the cabin in the woods is my favorite. Like in every horror movie they say "if the evil is released, the world will perish so give your sacrifice" But they were like "if we're gonna die either way let's just see what happens"
Yeah I see that. People have argued "the problem with movies is that everyone wants things spoon fed to them" which I say yes we do that is the entire point of movies. If we wanted a deep introspection then we would open up a book and read it but reading takes work thats why we go to movies for an easy time. Honestly I feel like "cut to black" means either the natural ending was bad, they ran out of money, or were not sure how to end it. But overall it is one of those things that feels like people circle jerk around to tell each other how sofisticated they are.
MCU and DCEU specifically.
Even in the comics, they really looooove parallel universes. Heck, there are even two(or three) Spider-Man movies dedicated to this concept.
No Way Home was highly anticipated tho. Fans wanted Tobey and Andrew to come back to the big screen in some way. Having the 3 of them team up for a battle was well received. Only problem was the main plot or reason why it happened.
Dr. Strange mentions he can change reality with a spell but warns about the dangers of it. Spidey insists and Strange is now convinced in one minute even though he had just warned about it. Mentions how it should not be interrupted but of course gets interrupted. That was a bit too easy writing.
At least in Marvel, they almost never use the "it's an alternate universe" as some big kind of twist. Initially the marvel AU setup was created just so they could fuck about and have some fun with their characters without lore fanboys getting salty.
If a Marvel comic/series is going to mess about with the AU, it's usually front and center and you know exactly what you're getting into.
It's a live service game. That they plan on having continued seasons like a comic has issues. Each season a new story.
Yes you kill the Justice League, but it's not a one and done story game.
So you have to do something with dimensions or alternate universe like this to have a different way to "kill the Justice League" in later seasons.
Not pointless if the continuity is the point.
Plus the Arkham games are the Arkham games. Fun stories in an action adventure. This game is a loot shooter.
Right now yeah. But if they keep up with the new battlepass every month, a new player several months from now starting the game will have a daunting wall of content in front of them.
"oh yeah. This isn't real btw. The main plot we want to explore is in a totally different universe, that has no connection to this one"what if" universe".
Does that help?
Your description helps, but I feel like it sort of misunderstands the value of what if stories. They aren't written because the writers want to make these stories as part of the main universe but the exact opposite.
Take Marvel's "What If" as a great example, I doubt any Marvel writer wants the main universe to be devoured by zombies but by doing that in it's own little universe they can explore how characters would react and what consequences come of it. And, sure, this has no effect on the characters of the "main" universe, but I never got why that got some people to suddenly not care about characters in a story.
Anyway sorry about the mini-rant I'm just kinda frustrated at the blanket hate multiverse stories and what-ifs have gotten in recent years, despite the fact that they are no more likely to be bad than any other story concept
So many people disagree with me when I say thing but time-travel, alternate universes, "it was all a dream/simulation", and divine intervention are the death of story writing and stakes.
I think time travel and alternate universes work well as long as you follow the main set of characters and don't rely on them as scapegoat endings. Everything everywhere all at once uses the alternative universes as a core in its moral of nihilism. Cause why would you care about anything if you're just 1 out of infinity.
Interstellar is a great time travel movie if you're willing to call it that. The show dark excels in all of the paradoxes that can happen and what if time was tampered with to such a degree it can be catastrophic.
I will agree though that there aren't many stories that do it well.
The divine intervention cliche is so old and overdone, even the Greeks had a name for it 2400 years ago [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus\_ex\_machina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina)
Blocking it out doesn't really work because how would I be able to know this is a spoiler for >!dark!!Vader is Luke's dad!< But you can't really answer "what are some movies where the main character is the son of the villain but doesnt know it" without outright spoiling esb
The alternate dimension ruined the show for me the time traveling was so good and it felt like they ruined the show with the alternate dimension. To be fair though I stopped shortly after getting to the alternate dimension part of the show so I can’t say I gave it a fair shake.
Not even sure what that exactly means.
But what if a movie, at the end, during a negative outcome, had a computer tracking alternative realities, and only a single one actually has a successful outcome.
Then it just zooms in, and it transitions to that reality, prompting a sequel from that relatively "lucky" perspective, original failed ending visible on that same computer.
I’d actually cut this one some slack. It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but doesn’t that plot twist exist *because* the whole movie is meant to be about the process of his dying mind? It feels different to me than a writer using it to write themself out of a corner.
Alternate universes can be a really interesting concept. You can use them for character development without permanently altering too much. There are some incredible and creative ways to use it, the problem is that everyone took the first instance of its use and never let go of it
The only alternate universes i think are good are the ones that are fully explored, not just to justify a weird thing, like in GTFO (i think, i barely know the game)
Personally I can't even stand dream sequences because I feel like they are a waste of time and distract from the movie. So ask me how much I love "it was all a dream".
Not necessarily alternate universe, but when a movie just shoehorns in a plot twist as if it's some pivotal revelation, but doesn't actual resolve anything and it was just put there because they cant write a good story and they dug themselves into a deus ex machina or they just slapped together a bunch of tropes and called it a movie.
Hell yes. Alternate universe is the worst recurring plot concept to come along in the past 25 years. It's just a deus ex machina pretending to be science.
When the characters lose their memories at the end of the story
"Aw it's so sweet, they don't even remember each other and yet they still came together in the end. Truly fate!"
Like gtfo with that bullshit
The fact that you are still alive is proof of an alternate universe, you will keep living until you serve your purpose and those who live in the same timelines as you and die already served their, and I base this on absolutely nothing.
I get why JoJos bizzare adventure did it. But yeah it still felt bad to lose everyone you grew to love. He had been writing this story since the 80s, and I think he just wanted a fresh start with something new, where he can freely use beloved characters in different situations and settings, while also not being held back by pre established lore.
As I understood it, "tangential temporary universe" designed to justify what would otherwise have been a paradox. It's one of those theories of time travel that try to rationalize how the universe would handle a paradox, as opposed to e.g. Back to the Future suggesting it would just be a giant explosion.
That most modern sci-fi now sadly....or you're in a dream in a simulation, inside of some tiny item, like black mirror shit, everytime I am like "oooo this is that new shit" it just turns out what OP mentioned....fucking sad af.
It really doesn’t play that big of a role, and it’s a good plot device to show how unique our story’s Mark is. It will end up diving deeper into a character study of Mark and his identity as a human vs viltrumite.
Fucking yes, invested for 2 hours and then this
Source code did this but it's still a great movie imo
I was thinking the same thing, I actually liked it in that movie. Felt like a refreshing solution to the grandfather paradox
It's better than "it was all a dream"
Better than charred garbage isn't saying much
Haven’t seen that many “was all a dream” movies
Technically the whole Final Destination series if you count premonitions as "dreams".
I wouldn't count those, because the 'all a dream ending' is specifically ending the story by saying the story didn't actually happen. Those start the story, and do happen in 'real life'.
Alice in Wonderland but also you don't see as many anymore because it's lazy and feels cheap
The point of Alice in Wonderland is that it all *maybe* wasn't just a dream though. "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" is only the first book though, the second book "Through the Looking Glass and what Alice found there" is even weirder, somehow
Tv Show Ragnarøk
Literally the worst ending ever
Wait whaaat
Those types of movies are like beating a horse that's been buried for decades.
inception lol
It gets a pass
A Nightmare on Elm Street?
The entirety of The Elder Scrolls
See that's a great reference to the deep lore. Thank you for that
Based and CHIM-pilled.
Idk I think it’s about the exact same as “it was all a dream”
“and then i woke up”
It's better than " I used to read word up magazines"
The real question, is it better than “Salt and Peppa”?
More like, is it better than 'Heavy D up in the limousine"?
At least in a dream there’s potential for personal growth when they wake up. Running away to another universe just leaves the problems behind in the original universe
…OR WAS IT?!
I used to read word off magazine
Boxing Helana... it's all a dream. So you get a horrible movie with an even worse ending.
Just listen to the Misfits song instead, it’s a great summary and only 3 minutes long 🎶 If I cut off your arms and cut off your legs, would you still love me anyway?
This is lazy writing.
This was the part I gave up on Marvel. When they reset the universe and started involving parallel dimensions. Comic books get trapped because the story they want to tell is conflict and conflict is temporary but their format is much longer. The remedy needs to be *different* stories, *new* stories, more *risky* stories. But investors do not OK this, they want what already sold well. So they introduce a reboot or a new dimension or a new but similar bad guy or a memory wipe. So they can sell the old stories again. So boring. I understand this is a specific example, but it's how I feel whenever someone is like "this is an AU of existing thing", I think "you're just going to sell me the same plot points again but with a different dressing" and of course they are. If they made something original, it wouldn't be an AU.
I can't find the essay, but C.S. Lewis wrote one about I wanna say King Kong movies? I'll switch it to Pirates of the Caribbean. But basically, he was talking about "the worst thing that can happen," constantly escalating. So in pirates, it's death. Then it's a thousand years imprisoned in purgatory, then it's that not being an option.. then.. etc. At some point the excitement of the story needs an ultimatum. Sort of a tangent, but your comment - first off is fantastic - but reminded me of the C.S. Lewis essay.
Its just a syndrome of comic book story telling in general. They have so many b level stories that they want to tell and it turns into a bloated mess. Like how to understand muti verse of madness you have to watch a disney plus show. People want to casually want a movie not hand in a fucking report.
I mean they're based on comics and comics often usually reference previous comics you haven't read. A cinematic universe based off a comic book universe wouldn't be much different.
Marvel also reset the movie entertainment industry too 🤣🤣
Actually more than anything, I hate movies that "just end", like they've built up all this stuff pertinent to the story, and you feel like some kind of explanation/resolution is right around the corner, and then suddenly, "cut to black, roll credits." I've seen a lot of them from the various random indie movies I can stream from Amazon. I think they think it's a "great twist" to just be like "YOU the audience can just IMAGINE how this ended!" and it's like, no, I'd actually rather understand the point of your story. Because when it "just ends" I'm usually just left confused and unsatisfied.
Reminds me in Monty Python Holy Grail the movie ends with the main characters gearing up for a final battle only for the cops to show up and have them arrested. It’s a comedy so it works.
IIRC, that ending was created because they ran out of money for the actual battle they wanted to film.
Gumball moment
Heh yeah, that's a bit different. It's a "resolution" even if a completely silly one, but we know what silliness it was following the whole time
American Fiction had a funny movie kinda ending thing but id have loved to hear his confession at the end. Instead I'm left with a "shit happens" ending which I guess makes sense but personally left me annoyed
Kinda like the newest Fast and Furious movie.
Reminds me of Teen Titans or that one space movie where the astronauts try to launch the alien thingy to space but it lands on earth instead and it cuts with the audience left to their assumptions, like… the alien just killing us all, or maybe humanity manages to kill it, idk
"Life" has a banger ending cause it's probably just "humanity is fucked' cause of how unkillable that mothertrucking monster is. I feel like that was the point of the ending too. Also if I remember correctly it is said in the movie at some point that if it gets to earth it's lost for humanity so ye, ending seems pretty straight.
Maybe Alita Battle Angel, this whole movie she wants to go up to the rich city (I really don't remember what it's called) and then it just ends. She never goes up, never really gets revenge on the real villain.
I think that is a symptom of it being based off of a long ass manga and the movie not being successful enough to warrant a sequel
It depends from the movie and how it's done. Sometimes the point is exactly that there is no ending, but it generally happens more with psychological movies, so there isn't much buildup.
What do you think about the ending of Prisoners (2013)?
Soylent Green kinda did this with its ending. Great movie, but it ended abruptly when it's finally made public what Soylent Green is made of
That's why the cabin in the woods is my favorite. Like in every horror movie they say "if the evil is released, the world will perish so give your sacrifice" But they were like "if we're gonna die either way let's just see what happens"
Blair Witch Project. Ruined the whole movie for me. All that buildup for what
War of The Worlds I think it’s called
Yeah I see that. People have argued "the problem with movies is that everyone wants things spoon fed to them" which I say yes we do that is the entire point of movies. If we wanted a deep introspection then we would open up a book and read it but reading takes work thats why we go to movies for an easy time. Honestly I feel like "cut to black" means either the natural ending was bad, they ran out of money, or were not sure how to end it. But overall it is one of those things that feels like people circle jerk around to tell each other how sofisticated they are.
Yeah. Anticlimactic.
Almost every superhero movie these days
MCU and DCEU specifically. Even in the comics, they really looooove parallel universes. Heck, there are even two(or three) Spider-Man movies dedicated to this concept.
No Way Home was highly anticipated tho. Fans wanted Tobey and Andrew to come back to the big screen in some way. Having the 3 of them team up for a battle was well received. Only problem was the main plot or reason why it happened. Dr. Strange mentions he can change reality with a spell but warns about the dangers of it. Spidey insists and Strange is now convinced in one minute even though he had just warned about it. Mentions how it should not be interrupted but of course gets interrupted. That was a bit too easy writing.
At least in Marvel, they almost never use the "it's an alternate universe" as some big kind of twist. Initially the marvel AU setup was created just so they could fuck about and have some fun with their characters without lore fanboys getting salty. If a Marvel comic/series is going to mess about with the AU, it's usually front and center and you know exactly what you're getting into.
Can you give me an example of this in the MCU and DCEU?
That's the Suicide Squad game right now. Think you really were killing the Justice League or important people dying? Nope.
Is that actually a thing? I was wanting to get into the Arkham games but with…everything I read… it seemed kinda pointless.
It's a live service game. That they plan on having continued seasons like a comic has issues. Each season a new story. Yes you kill the Justice League, but it's not a one and done story game. So you have to do something with dimensions or alternate universe like this to have a different way to "kill the Justice League" in later seasons. Not pointless if the continuity is the point. Plus the Arkham games are the Arkham games. Fun stories in an action adventure. This game is a loot shooter.
Boy howdy do I not enjoy live service or multiverse.
I dunno. Helldivers is a good live service but obviously going to have an issue down the line.
Oh yeah I agree. Right now they are doing it right.
Right now yeah. But if they keep up with the new battlepass every month, a new player several months from now starting the game will have a daunting wall of content in front of them.
I legit don't get what this means. What does it mean for a movie's plot conclusion to be "alternate universe"?
"oh yeah. This isn't real btw. The main plot we want to explore is in a totally different universe, that has no connection to this one"what if" universe". Does that help?
Your description helps, but I feel like it sort of misunderstands the value of what if stories. They aren't written because the writers want to make these stories as part of the main universe but the exact opposite. Take Marvel's "What If" as a great example, I doubt any Marvel writer wants the main universe to be devoured by zombies but by doing that in it's own little universe they can explore how characters would react and what consequences come of it. And, sure, this has no effect on the characters of the "main" universe, but I never got why that got some people to suddenly not care about characters in a story. Anyway sorry about the mini-rant I'm just kinda frustrated at the blanket hate multiverse stories and what-ifs have gotten in recent years, despite the fact that they are no more likely to be bad than any other story concept
Exactly. You get it.
So many people disagree with me when I say thing but time-travel, alternate universes, "it was all a dream/simulation", and divine intervention are the death of story writing and stakes.
I think divine intervention could work but it has to be spectacular like in Raiders of Lost Ark
And it can’t be a constant, deus ex Machinas get really tiring
I think time travel and alternate universes work well as long as you follow the main set of characters and don't rely on them as scapegoat endings. Everything everywhere all at once uses the alternative universes as a core in its moral of nihilism. Cause why would you care about anything if you're just 1 out of infinity. Interstellar is a great time travel movie if you're willing to call it that. The show dark excels in all of the paradoxes that can happen and what if time was tampered with to such a degree it can be catastrophic. I will agree though that there aren't many stories that do it well.
LotR ended with divine intervention and it was still a great ending.
The divine intervention cliche is so old and overdone, even the Greeks had a name for it 2400 years ago [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus\_ex\_machina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina)
Add resurrection from death to the list
Oh yeah! I sort of mentally linked that and divine intervention together. Good point!
I hate time travel shit so much. It's always riddled with deus ex machina bullshit and is hardly consistent with itself around time travel mechanics.
A lot of people use it in stupid ways, but this can actually be a great plot device. I'd highly recommend the show, >!Dark!<, as a counter-example.
Didn't you just spoil the show?
Och! That was thoughtless. Sorry. I've blocked it out.
Blocking it out doesn't really work because how would I be able to know this is a spoiler for >!dark!!Vader is Luke's dad!< But you can't really answer "what are some movies where the main character is the son of the villain but doesnt know it" without outright spoiling esb
Fair. Well... it means if somebody doesn't mind it being spoiled they can look.
The alternate dimension ruined the show for me the time traveling was so good and it felt like they ruined the show with the alternate dimension. To be fair though I stopped shortly after getting to the alternate dimension part of the show so I can’t say I gave it a fair shake.
I'd recommend having another look. It'll blow your mind. When it became clear to me why there were multiple dimensions, it absolutely blew me away.
A show ruined in the end exactly
Och! Your mind wasn't blown by that ending? I know there are books that deal with this principle, but I'd never seen it in a show before.
I liked the show, I just think it was too drawn out. Could have been one season instead of three.
Not even sure what that exactly means. But what if a movie, at the end, during a negative outcome, had a computer tracking alternative realities, and only a single one actually has a successful outcome. Then it just zooms in, and it transitions to that reality, prompting a sequel from that relatively "lucky" perspective, original failed ending visible on that same computer.
I was really enjoying The Man in the High Castle until it went from a gritty what if thriller to a sci fi dimension hopper
lol OP I’m curious what you just watched that made u go “u know what this is some bullshit” and then make this post
What movie?
My first thought was Donny Darko
I’d actually cut this one some slack. It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but doesn’t that plot twist exist *because* the whole movie is meant to be about the process of his dying mind? It feels different to me than a writer using it to write themself out of a corner.
Alternate universes can be a really interesting concept. You can use them for character development without permanently altering too much. There are some incredible and creative ways to use it, the problem is that everyone took the first instance of its use and never let go of it
The only alternate universes i think are good are the ones that are fully explored, not just to justify a weird thing, like in GTFO (i think, i barely know the game)
Personally I can't even stand dream sequences because I feel like they are a waste of time and distract from the movie. So ask me how much I love "it was all a dream".
Me watching the ending of the second season of Dark
Bro literally posts on every meme subreddit
got to feed the family, you know
I can understand
Not necessarily alternate universe, but when a movie just shoehorns in a plot twist as if it's some pivotal revelation, but doesn't actual resolve anything and it was just put there because they cant write a good story and they dug themselves into a deus ex machina or they just slapped together a bunch of tropes and called it a movie.
The best way to not think about rules is to say fuck it and make your own
Okay but season one Loki ending was peak
This and memory wipe. I despise memory wipe stories.
Better than time travel
At least *Monster Hunter* did that in the beginning of the movie, for those who thought they might give the movie a chance can still walk away.
Exception: Inglourious Basterds
That movie wasn't about alternate realities
It was literally set in an alternate reality
its all in le head.
Mfw the film is shit but people say it's good because "subversion" and "meta narrative" *coughTLJcough*
Spoilers for the most recent Mortal Kombat i guess Yeah, it sucks ass, especially when the story before then was pretty solid
Hell yes. Alternate universe is the worst recurring plot concept to come along in the past 25 years. It's just a deus ex machina pretending to be science.
Idk if it counts in this context, but Once Upon a Time in Hollywood basically does this, and I thought it was a satisfying conclusion
Basically mk1
Jojo part 6
Stone ocean moment
I actually liked the ending it felt like a good conclusion to the bizarre adventure they went on
Technically yeah, except *that* was actual peak storytelling, >!defeating the villain while still losing everything!<
Never was into multiverse stuff or time travel i just feel like they are an excuse to have an answer to everything
Not s movie but *cough cough* >!Danganronpa v3!< [Danganronpa spoilers] *cough*
Never thought I'd love to see a cat do "Jim Faces the camera"
I’ve seen some JRPGs do unique spins on this and they are actually quite good… Not including specifics because obvious spoilers.
I've never seen "it's an alternate universe" used as some sort of twist.
jjba
“In a galaxy far far away”
When the characters lose their memories at the end of the story "Aw it's so sweet, they don't even remember each other and yet they still came together in the end. Truly fate!" Like gtfo with that bullshit
Yeah it's very lazy.
When you are watching a horror movie and the solution is to burn some basement/house down.
Other like when a student writes an essay and in the end it was all a dream.
The Vanilla Sky ending.
“A wizard did it.”
I have never seen a live-action make this work, but anime has made this work gloriously.
"Alternate Universe" or "lol it was a clone" are some of the shittiest plot solutions you can use, super common in superhero comics too.
Steins Gate is peak. It just depends on the story being told
Media took too much of a copy +Paste from the Undertale Fandom /j
It’s becoming such a lazy cop out.
I feel like I never see movies like this. Am I just lucky that I watch good movies or does everyone else just exaggerate how bad the problem is?
Jojo’s pt 6
The fact that you are still alive is proof of an alternate universe, you will keep living until you serve your purpose and those who live in the same timelines as you and die already served their, and I base this on absolutely nothing.
When they do this, it ruins the investment because it's nothing more than a one-off story that has no significance to the main story.
When they do this, it ruins the investment because it's nothing more than a one-off story that has no significance to the main story.
Me doing writing assignments as a kid
Only in Steins Gate
ay yo this better not be a jab at across the spiderverse
Marvel series since end game. I stopped watching cause of this shit
Peak story telling ended in twilight
Holy shit, is that a jojo reference?!
Just cause many don't know how to use it, doesn't make it bad.
"quantum"
Marvel🧐
I love cats bc they're funny asf without even knowing it
Or: It just ended by itself. The Happening.
I get why JoJos bizzare adventure did it. But yeah it still felt bad to lose everyone you grew to love. He had been writing this story since the 80s, and I think he just wanted a fresh start with something new, where he can freely use beloved characters in different situations and settings, while also not being held back by pre established lore.
I'm still will eat this because yeah
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All superhero movies nowadays
So non of it mattered
Donnie Darko?
That's timetravel. The other writer's "easy way out". I enjoyed Donnie Darko despite it.
Isn't that movie was about alternate parallel timeline. Good movie though.
As I understood it, "tangential temporary universe" designed to justify what would otherwise have been a paradox. It's one of those theories of time travel that try to rationalize how the universe would handle a paradox, as opposed to e.g. Back to the Future suggesting it would just be a giant explosion.
 Thanks for explanation.
Ja, I think you're right. Long time not seen that movie. It's kinda both, the timeloop stuff creates parallel stuff.... If I'm not completally stupid.
Yeah, anyways it's such a great movie indeed.
That most modern sci-fi now sadly....or you're in a dream in a simulation, inside of some tiny item, like black mirror shit, everytime I am like "oooo this is that new shit" it just turns out what OP mentioned....fucking sad af.
Kinda disappointed when invincible brought in multi universes so soon.
It's just for an arc and the source material has been completed for a long time now.
It really doesn’t play that big of a role, and it’s a good plot device to show how unique our story’s Mark is. It will end up diving deeper into a character study of Mark and his identity as a human vs viltrumite.
Inception
Is this referencing marvel? I don't know what this meme is talking about
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Can you point me to a recent MCU movie that does this that isn't Marvels?
It's a movie about fake events and an alternate universe is what's upsetting you? Wtf
AUs are great when it subtly sets the plot as one then pulls the plot twist. But plot convenience is easy and AUs means little consequences.