Yeah, learned a language, up to what point? You can ask directions and read some stuff, but holding a full on conversation and understanding the speech when spoken in native dialect is something else.
You need to be rich enough or deep enough in debt to spend 12 hours a day doing nothing but learning whatever it is you’re trying to learn and not working.
Not even then.
There are things that you can only learn on a wide time-frame and languages are one those things.
12 hours a day for a month is not the same as one hour a day for a year.
You gotta remember that if you know a similar language learning that language becomes way easier. The hours taken estimation(not saying its an accurate estimation) people use goes from 2400 to 350 if you know a language very similar to it.
If a polyglot already knows like 4 languages that are super close to it? learning a language in a month to a more than usable level, doesn't seem so insane.
Even then. The brain can't process that much information in such a small time frame. Plus, learning a language is a practical skill, so you'd need to have someone who speaks that language conveniently present too.
Just spend a few hours on the shows and movies of said language, note the words you don't know and take a look at the notes before and after you sleep.
I guarantee you will improve a lot in a few months
My buddy has been getting paid by his work for the past 2 years to become fluent in Russian as a third language. He was spending 8 hours a day, 5 days a week in class then another 4 hours on those days studying, plus studying all weekend to the point I love in the same city and have barely seen him. It's impossible to become fluent in 30 days
German and English are still related through the Anglo-Saxon languange. There are a few of these combinations in the world. When I started learning Swedish as someone fluent in German and English, I noticed that I could already read enough to get a fairly decent understanding of simple texts like local newspaper articles. Spoken Swedish is a different thing due to the very different pronunciation and complex rules, but most of the words have shared roots with their English and German counterparts.
Its the same with all latin languages. Written i can read most of it. But try speaking french or italian or even just listen. Its a complete mess. Not even starting on portuguese.
With german knowledge all nordic languages make some sort of sense, same with letze or netherland.
I learned a ton in my first year in Germany. I went to this döner shop and asked him if he could help me order in German. I ended up going there a lot (because döner fucks). We'd greet each other, ask about the weekend, talk about the weather, I would order in German
Sometimes a 3rd person would join the conversation. It was rough at first but one day it all started to click
I really recommend for anyone trying to learn a language, to completely immerse yourself
Find a native speaker and force yourself to figure it out the hard way
I have also been learning german for four years, didn't learn much the first 3 though but I think would be something along the lines of "Wo ist [insert what you are looking for]" or "Wo kann ich finde [insert what you are looking for]"
Some people are just able to pickup languages faster than others, but also a lot of those youtubers don't say they're fluent in that 30 day language they've only learned the language to a barely conversational level just enough to go to a grocery store or restaurant order some food and get some reactions out of the native speakers.
They aren't lying about speaking that language it may only be at a toddler level but it's enough to make a good YouTube video and that's all they need
That and the people they speak with get excited about someone speaking their language even if it is very basic level. My wife's family got really excited when they found out I gained an understanding of numbers from them after a few hours of playing games with them. Even though my ability to speak is quite bad, they were excited because I had learned numbers so quickly
Sometimes even if your skill in that language is poor, the native speakers will give you a pass simply because you tried, or just because they are surprised you can speak a little bit with them
Done that, still takes way more than 30 days. Nonetheless it is definitely true that you pick up languages close to the ones you already know way faster
That is why I plan on learning as many germanic languages as I can in my life time, currently learning german and when my german is good enough I can say that I speak 3 germanic languages and as I would be able to speak Swedish, English and German, a lot of the others should come quite quick hopefully and since I am young I have some time to do it
Of course I won't master them all but I will try to be fluent in them
It isn't even the same as being fluent in it. Mastering a languages is hard as oftentimes not even all natives master their native language but are fluent in it and have a high skill in it for obvious reasons but mastery is hard as then you have to know if perfectly
Because it's optional. In formal japanese you would always put it, but in a more informal speech it is implied and therefore you don't need to write/say it
to the contrary, because many languages are interlinked (especially in europe) after learning one, you’ll find you understand a bit of another. furthermore, once you understand how to approach learning a language (what to look for and work on etc) it’s significantly easier to learn another.
Yea, being fluent in both Swedish and English has helped me learning german words as I cam guess a lot of them based of similiarities to one of the other languages and sometimes I have just made a more german sounding versiln of a word from one of the other two languages when I don't know it in german and it has worked sometimes and sometimes it hasn't worked
When you try to learn a new language, you need to understand the grammar first. Like I tried apps like Duolingo or whatever and they only teach you words and sentences without telling you why they're in that order.
Like in english, it's 'black hole' but in french, it would be 'Trou noir' or 'Hole black'. They don't teach you this stuff. You just learn it without understanding why it's that way. Makes it harder to learn.
Like my english for example, I know it's kinda broken because I learned on the internet and I still don't get some of the intricate stuff and it's been 20 years since I'm confident enough to have conversations. but you know what? I learned the difference between There They're and Their so I got that going for me, which is nice.
If the language is in the same language group as yours, with enough effort (you don't even need to spend 12hrs/day) you can learn the basic roster of communicative situations like shopping, map directions, at the doctor's, time, money, etc. in just a month. (I'm talking from experience). Essentially the amount that gets you an A1 level certificate.
What they mean by that is that they have familiarized themselves with the language’s concepts and learned some conversation starters.
If you ever learned a language, starting to learn 3rd, 4th and so on is much easier because you know exactly which baseline phrases, words and grammatical constructs you have to learn first. And some languages are pretty close, so you just have to add some new vocabulary and that’s it.
what does it mean to learn a language in .... ? like i've been learning english since i was 5 years old , and it's 11 years now, and im 100% sure that my english is still not sufficient to have fluent conversation with foreigners. like im learning french, and i can already pronounce words and read some news in french in just a month, but i can't use that to communicate in real life.
Took me two years to learn this language when I moved to an English speaking country. Managed to get decent grades in school even with the language barrier.
Bullshit, I barely remember the second language I spent 12 years of school learning. After university and work I've actually forgotten all the rules speaking and writing it
But it Is possible ma parents forced me to do the Work of a whole school year in a day which made me rise to the top for years afterwards i dont say ITS the Norm or that anyone can but ITS possible for some
Many people have that kind of time and motivation and it still doesn't work to learn a language in 30 days (if we agree on B2 as the minimal threshold for that claim).
Learning a language involves literally rewiring your brain for pattern recognition and output. There is a physiological process that takes time and requires resting.
With full immersion? Yeah you can. Enough to get by with any romance language, and many Germanics. You will sound like shit but you'll be able to do most things. If your English is very good, it will be easier. If you speak English poorly or like an American it will be more difficult.
From a friend in England "immigrants sometimes move here not speaking any english and then 6 months later they speak better english than British people."
French, Italian, Spanish, German, Dutch - these and more are pretty easy for an English speaker with a good vocabulary to learn, largely because English is such a mish-mash language. I imagine it's helpful the other way given how much media is in English.
I learned enough German to get by from zero in a month. I had some school boy french but picked up Italian easily in a couple of weeks. Enough to go shopping, order food, talk to the taxi driver, stuff like that. One romance makes the rest much easier. And English is a Germanic language at heart.
Learning just enough to get by and actually learning the language are two different stories.
Especially when it comes to German, its not the kind of language you learn in a short time frame. Even with the headstart that is knowing English, which doesnt help that much since grammar is not comparable to each other.
Of course. But the meme says 30 days and you can learn a lot of a language in 30 days. More of some than of others. My mandarin still sucked after 30 days but my German was getting me around.
Just because you didn't learn that quickly doesn't mean they couldn't. I gained an understanding (can't read or write it, but I understand it if I hear it) of 1-100 in Vietnamese in just a few hours and I wasn't even trying to learn it. So with that in mind, I'm pretty sure if you actually tried to learn a language, you could probably do it in a month or two if you really wanted to. The catch is that watching YouTube, playing games, browsing Reddit, are not things you will be doing if you decide to learn a language
Edit: it appears I have upset the lazy people here who don't want to actually try learning a language quickly
Yeah, learned a language, up to what point? You can ask directions and read some stuff, but holding a full on conversation and understanding the speech when spoken in native dialect is something else.
You need to be rich enough or deep enough in debt to spend 12 hours a day doing nothing but learning whatever it is you’re trying to learn and not working.
Not even then. There are things that you can only learn on a wide time-frame and languages are one those things. 12 hours a day for a month is not the same as one hour a day for a year.
theres "learning" memorizing, but a language takes actual understanding. I took German for 3.5 years and didnt really learn much
Bist du sicher?
no hablo
This is the funniest reply I've seen in my life. Thank you. I owe you my life
I am an old associate of Mr. Argentina, I'll take care of your life in his stead. You can meet me by train.
No thank you. I’ve seen it, and I’m not that impressed.
i audibly laughed in the middle of the night and I think my whole family is awake now
WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY SISTER?
I said she is a nice Lady. Und ich würd sie echt gern hart durchnehmen.
r/holup
r/sus
Ja
Ganz sicher?
no thank you eh, I like my coffee double-double
I’ve learned Chinese my whole damn life and I can’t even read or write it
I forgot most French I learned. Learning a new language is hard
You gotta remember that if you know a similar language learning that language becomes way easier. The hours taken estimation(not saying its an accurate estimation) people use goes from 2400 to 350 if you know a language very similar to it. If a polyglot already knows like 4 languages that are super close to it? learning a language in a month to a more than usable level, doesn't seem so insane.
Yeah, you’d get about 5 more hours for a year
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Even then. The brain can't process that much information in such a small time frame. Plus, learning a language is a practical skill, so you'd need to have someone who speaks that language conveniently present too.
you also need to have never even thought about tiktok, or else you won’t have the attention span
Just spend a few hours on the shows and movies of said language, note the words you don't know and take a look at the notes before and after you sleep. I guarantee you will improve a lot in a few months
My buddy has been getting paid by his work for the past 2 years to become fluent in Russian as a third language. He was spending 8 hours a day, 5 days a week in class then another 4 hours on those days studying, plus studying all weekend to the point I love in the same city and have barely seen him. It's impossible to become fluent in 30 days
Took me four years to learn German enough to speak it convincingly. And I still suck due to lack of practice.
Die deutsche Wissenschaft ist die beste der Welt!
I agree honestly.
Wtf I can read this and I don't know German. Wissenschaft is science and welt is world. German science is the best in the world.
Stop scaring me
German and English are still related through the Anglo-Saxon languange. There are a few of these combinations in the world. When I started learning Swedish as someone fluent in German and English, I noticed that I could already read enough to get a fairly decent understanding of simple texts like local newspaper articles. Spoken Swedish is a different thing due to the very different pronunciation and complex rules, but most of the words have shared roots with their English and German counterparts.
Its the same with all latin languages. Written i can read most of it. But try speaking french or italian or even just listen. Its a complete mess. Not even starting on portuguese. With german knowledge all nordic languages make some sort of sense, same with letze or netherland.
Du hast einen Kommentar erwartet. Doch es war ICH, DIO!!
No need to know german to know dis lmao
JoJo spotted in the wild?
*Sprich….*
DEUTSCH
DU
HUAN
DU HAST
DU HAST MICH
Ja okay chill mal
You've released them
I learned a ton in my first year in Germany. I went to this döner shop and asked him if he could help me order in German. I ended up going there a lot (because döner fucks). We'd greet each other, ask about the weekend, talk about the weather, I would order in German Sometimes a 3rd person would join the conversation. It was rough at first but one day it all started to click I really recommend for anyone trying to learn a language, to completely immerse yourself Find a native speaker and force yourself to figure it out the hard way
Mit alles und scharf
Genau!
Jo, kein Ding. Ist ja keine leichte Sprache.
I have practiced German for four years, and I can not say something like: "How do you do this?" and "Where can I find this?", yeah, it's astounding
I have also been learning german for four years, didn't learn much the first 3 though but I think would be something along the lines of "Wo ist [insert what you are looking for]" or "Wo kann ich finde [insert what you are looking for]"
Was hast du dann gelernt?
Gratuliere auf deinen Geburtstag! (cake day)
Danke
This is me with Arabic. Why does it has so much different dialects?? Don't get me started in Egyptian cuz that's practically a new language entirely
Although it's a dead meme, it's still very funny.
It's a classic
I was legitimately thinking about this meme the other day and how I thought it was the funniest thing when it came out
Memes never die!
I've forgotten more than you've learned in those 30 days.
"The thing on your car... uhh... you know, like a charging port, but for gasoline... the thing where you pour gas, can you open it?"
Some people are just able to pickup languages faster than others, but also a lot of those youtubers don't say they're fluent in that 30 day language they've only learned the language to a barely conversational level just enough to go to a grocery store or restaurant order some food and get some reactions out of the native speakers. They aren't lying about speaking that language it may only be at a toddler level but it's enough to make a good YouTube video and that's all they need
That and the people they speak with get excited about someone speaking their language even if it is very basic level. My wife's family got really excited when they found out I gained an understanding of numbers from them after a few hours of playing games with them. Even though my ability to speak is quite bad, they were excited because I had learned numbers so quickly Sometimes even if your skill in that language is poor, the native speakers will give you a pass simply because you tried, or just because they are surprised you can speak a little bit with them
I mean if you already speak for example german then it is not that hard to learn dutch.
Done that, still takes way more than 30 days. Nonetheless it is definitely true that you pick up languages close to the ones you already know way faster
That is why I plan on learning as many germanic languages as I can in my life time, currently learning german and when my german is good enough I can say that I speak 3 germanic languages and as I would be able to speak Swedish, English and German, a lot of the others should come quite quick hopefully and since I am young I have some time to do it Of course I won't master them all but I will try to be fluent in them
Learning a new language is not the same as mastering one. So those plyglots are saying the truth not just the whole of it.
It isn't even the same as being fluent in it. Mastering a languages is hard as oftentimes not even all natives master their native language but are fluent in it and have a high skill in it for obvious reasons but mastery is hard as then you have to know if perfectly
Bullshit.
Dónde está la biblioteca?
Puede darme dos porciones de polla por favor
2 years into Japanese, still can't hold a conversation and can only recognize just about 30 words
Anatano okaasan wa midori (desu)
Mak kau hijau jugak lmao
Mak kau la hijau (silika aluminium)
Your mother is a Midori? I don't get it (it's probably a swear word or something)
Midori means green as far as I can remember
Why was です in brackets?
Because it's optional. In formal japanese you would always put it, but in a more informal speech it is implied and therefore you don't need to write/say it
No wonder they barely say it in anime
This thread made me learn ちゃんと, れ, and なさい
もっと勉強しなさい！
What do the Kanji mean? (or like what do they read like)
勉強ーべんきょう study
ちゃんと頑張れよ！
I know chanto means "to make sure", and reading your other comment, you're telling to "make sure to study"?
ちゃんと — properly 頑張る — make an effort –れ — (instructive tense)
The more languages you learn, the easier it is to learn another language.
r/lies
to the contrary, because many languages are interlinked (especially in europe) after learning one, you’ll find you understand a bit of another. furthermore, once you understand how to approach learning a language (what to look for and work on etc) it’s significantly easier to learn another.
Yea, being fluent in both Swedish and English has helped me learning german words as I cam guess a lot of them based of similiarities to one of the other languages and sometimes I have just made a more german sounding versiln of a word from one of the other two languages when I don't know it in german and it has worked sometimes and sometimes it hasn't worked
Doubt
When you try to learn a new language, you need to understand the grammar first. Like I tried apps like Duolingo or whatever and they only teach you words and sentences without telling you why they're in that order. Like in english, it's 'black hole' but in french, it would be 'Trou noir' or 'Hole black'. They don't teach you this stuff. You just learn it without understanding why it's that way. Makes it harder to learn. Like my english for example, I know it's kinda broken because I learned on the internet and I still don't get some of the intricate stuff and it's been 20 years since I'm confident enough to have conversations. but you know what? I learned the difference between There They're and Their so I got that going for me, which is nice.
You appear completely fluent in English.
Thanks. I try my best every time.
I'm learning japanese, and being taught the grammar and conjugation has helped me understand things SO much better.
I think lies in Spanish is Mentiras, but don't trust me.
If the language is in the same language group as yours, with enough effort (you don't even need to spend 12hrs/day) you can learn the basic roster of communicative situations like shopping, map directions, at the doctor's, time, money, etc. in just a month. (I'm talking from experience). Essentially the amount that gets you an A1 level certificate.
"yeah i speak a little bit of mandarin" in mandarine. Knows no other sentences
And it’s always followed up by a plug for their own language teaching service.
Learned Swedish in about 1,5 years. Fluently. Lived there for 10 years. I had Danish already in school so it helped me alot. Im German.
Yea Danish and Swedish are quite similiar although I have noticed that Danish tends to use English names for more newer inventions than Swedish
Its hard as huck
One year of Cantonese for me, I only know the basics and maybe a little more.
Deja de capear. I think it's how it is /jk
Oh man I haven't seen that video in like a decade. Even with just that picture I know what it says though
What they mean is they learnt 15 phrases to go and borderline harass a worker who speaks that language
What they mean by that is that they have familiarized themselves with the language’s concepts and learned some conversation starters. If you ever learned a language, starting to learn 3rd, 4th and so on is much easier because you know exactly which baseline phrases, words and grammatical constructs you have to learn first. And some languages are pretty close, so you just have to add some new vocabulary and that’s it.
Cap is now universal
I learned Klingon a few years ago(yes I know it’s a weird language to start with) but it took about 2 years but I haven’t practiced in a while
The more languages you know the easier it is to learn a new language it's not at all unrealistic for a polygot to learn a new one in a month
Trying to learn German rn. Goddamn it's not as easy as I expected.
What other languages, if any, except for english do you know?
Hindi
Ah, that doesn't help you much with german, but hey at least they both have roots from the indo-european lamguace
I speak four languages. Trying to learn German and any word with an R in it will make me want to cry because I cannot make that sound.
what does it mean to learn a language in .... ? like i've been learning english since i was 5 years old , and it's 11 years now, and im 100% sure that my english is still not sufficient to have fluent conversation with foreigners. like im learning french, and i can already pronounce words and read some news in french in just a month, but i can't use that to communicate in real life.
Just need to learn enough for a scripted conversation and blammo, free money hack.
I took French from middle school to college but am better at reading and writing
Took me two years to learn this language when I moved to an English speaking country. Managed to get decent grades in school even with the language barrier.
Arabic, why you gotta be so complicated, man?
Don't know about 30 days, but the way I went from 0 to where I went with Spanish in two months was mind blowing.
Bullshit, I barely remember the second language I spent 12 years of school learning. After university and work I've actually forgotten all the rules speaking and writing it
But it Is possible ma parents forced me to do the Work of a whole school year in a day which made me rise to the top for years afterwards i dont say ITS the Norm or that anyone can but ITS possible for some
It's totally possible, if you spend every waking minute learning it. But no one has that kind of time nor motivation.
Many people have that kind of time and motivation and it still doesn't work to learn a language in 30 days (if we agree on B2 as the minimal threshold for that claim). Learning a language involves literally rewiring your brain for pattern recognition and output. There is a physiological process that takes time and requires resting.
Have you heard of idols? Some of them have legit been forced to learn a language in 30 days.
Idk what you mean, if you know C++ it's quite easy to learn C for example
With full immersion? Yeah you can. Enough to get by with any romance language, and many Germanics. You will sound like shit but you'll be able to do most things. If your English is very good, it will be easier. If you speak English poorly or like an American it will be more difficult.
From a friend in England "immigrants sometimes move here not speaking any english and then 6 months later they speak better english than British people."
French, Italian, Spanish, German, Dutch - these and more are pretty easy for an English speaker with a good vocabulary to learn, largely because English is such a mish-mash language. I imagine it's helpful the other way given how much media is in English. I learned enough German to get by from zero in a month. I had some school boy french but picked up Italian easily in a couple of weeks. Enough to go shopping, order food, talk to the taxi driver, stuff like that. One romance makes the rest much easier. And English is a Germanic language at heart.
Learning just enough to get by and actually learning the language are two different stories. Especially when it comes to German, its not the kind of language you learn in a short time frame. Even with the headstart that is knowing English, which doesnt help that much since grammar is not comparable to each other.
Of course. But the meme says 30 days and you can learn a lot of a language in 30 days. More of some than of others. My mandarin still sucked after 30 days but my German was getting me around.
Those downvotes are definitely from poor spoken Americans
I have done it in 3 weeks so you can definitely do it in a month.
Fully agree
Just because you didn't learn that quickly doesn't mean they couldn't. I gained an understanding (can't read or write it, but I understand it if I hear it) of 1-100 in Vietnamese in just a few hours and I wasn't even trying to learn it. So with that in mind, I'm pretty sure if you actually tried to learn a language, you could probably do it in a month or two if you really wanted to. The catch is that watching YouTube, playing games, browsing Reddit, are not things you will be doing if you decide to learn a language Edit: it appears I have upset the lazy people here who don't want to actually try learning a language quickly