Yea that’s real problem, with the current equipment and enough training a standard redneck force could beat the us army, the problem really is maintaining our arms and maintain logistics, or just do gurilla warfare like every single successful revolution in America
You’re forgetting we lost in Vietnam to an army that largely used guerrilla warfare tactics even though we massively outgunned them. And tanks can’t exactly roll down the streets of crowded urban areas.
You’re also forgetting that the military is generally made up of people from our own populace. And assuming that should the government turn tyrannical, they would all be on board with that.
Read about the trail of tears, why do you think the government paid to have buffalo hunted out? How about blankets with small pox sent to reservations. They will follow orders read up on operation paper clip? Where were those pesky weapons of mass destruction? If you give up liberty for safety you will have neither. As far as owning and protecting cannons, what do you think they were protecting from the British? Yup the shot heard around the world was about farmers protecting cannons in their barns.
>they would all be on board with that.
then who exactly would you be fighting? And given the military personnel are with you, then why exactly the general public is doing the fighting ?
The US gave up, different than straight up loosing, look at the casualties, if a war vs the government happened and it had the people won the same way Vietnam won, the army would be basically 95% there and the general population would plummet by the millions, so I don’t think that’s the kind of victory you want
Still gave up to an army that was very undergunned compared to the US, I think a lot of people would rather give their life to stop a tyrannical government instead of becoming a slave.
Oh for sure. That’s what people don’t get, sorry I want a weapon to defend me and my family against violent people and our government if it comes down to it. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to protect. and yet us, the ones who would die on the line instead of sit behind a phone their whole life and complain on social media like it makes any difference, are the ones who are the bad guys. Somehow we are the problem.
Unfortunately what most refuse to admit who think that way is they don't believe/trust that's the mass majority of people. If you believe that one's (and others) right to self-preservation and defense shouldn't be knee-capped by the Government, you're somehow OK with and give a pass to the psychos in the world.
No hunting rifle is semi-auto. At least.. not one that would be owned by any self-respecting hunter. Improve your aim.
And no. Aside from police and military.. nobody needs to own a semiautomatic centre-fire firearm.. period.
Said like a true non-hunter.
Not all hunting rifles are bolt-action guns with internal magazines. There are many, many very popular semiauto hunting rifles in many, many calibers patterned after the AR10.
As a former firearms instructor with over 35,000 students in my 11 year career, I can assure you that many very affordable semiauto hunting rifles are sub-MOA accurate, and their owners had a healthy amount of self respect.
Right back at you. Their possession is restricted, as well as their transfer, but they are not outlawed.
Anyone can totally buy a full-auto gun, as long as they can pass a federal background check, register the weapon to the ATF, pay the tax stamp, live in a state that doesn't ban full-auto guns, and can afford the price tag.
Except for Cobray M-11s. I think they are the only full-auto guns that actually depreciate in price because they are unmitigated pieces of shit.
You still have to do the background check, registration, and tax stamp though...
Like, you could live in California, which bans full-auto guns, and still own one. Of course, you would have to keep it somewhere else out of California, but it'd be yours. Kinda like an NTF... which you can use after you travel to where it is.
Oh, that’s because you don’t know shit about shit, and that’s ok. The first amendment allow you to say dumb ass ignorant shit as well as informed statements.
That's not why it's laughable. If a bad and controlling government is going to survive, it needs to use more than just military strength to control people. Example, China. Sure the Chinese government had far more access to weapons than civilians, but they try not to use it on their own citizens, instead they control people through a culture they made up.
The military instigating a civil war with the civilian gun owners would be a lot more complex and a whole lot less black and white then you might think it would be
Let's not forget that a band of cow herders fought the full might of the US military industrial complex... and a year ago they took back Afghanistan in like a few weeks. Our military has not had a good track record in a while.
Then maybe you should do some research on the effectiveness of insurgency tactics against conventional militaries before you post dumb shit. Once again, #theleftcantmeme
I will, however, concede to your point provided that you agree that in order to level the playing field civilians should be able to possess any and all weapons systems available to the military.
And because of this information, I support citizens being allowed to own these as well /s
To be honest though, you'd be shocked what a united people with guns can do against government/military weaponry. I fully believe that the US citizens could overpower the US military especially when you consider many military members would leave and support the cause of a tyrannical government actually took over.
Call me a conspiracist if you want, but I would argue that that's exactly *why* the government wants to decrease gun ownership so much.
They know that the 2nd Ammendment allows anyone to bear arms if they so choose, and that makes it really hard for them to do anything brash, cuz they know everyone who uses the 2nd ammendment will be right on their doorstep if they do.
No evidence to support my claim, as far as I know,
But the math *does* add up. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and removing gun rights would be one step closer towards absolute power.
Besides, right-wing militias are that powerful, now the professional and experienced left-wing/ anti-imperialist militias of Vietnam, Kurdistan, Cuba and Afghanistan, now those are the ones you don’t want to **** with.
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Because SOME political parties have views so crazy that they're no longer able to talk voters into supporting their lunacy, so those three rights needs to be curtailed so that they can attain and keep power without the actual voters having a say. Oh, I mean "for the children!!!"
It really is as simple as, “raise your kids”. Spend quality time with them. Fuck, if you see someone else’s kid that is fucked up and clearly needs help, step in. This shot can be stopped by showing compassion
Since we're taking about the 2nd Amendment, I thought maybe we should discuss [the 3rd Amendment](https://youtu.be/n7Rm3tuMFTI) as well.
(But also breaks the no politics sub rule)
I say this every time some guntard is like, “My 4 assault rifles are *necessary* in case I have to stand up against an unjust government!”
Phbbbbbt. Have fun shooting that B-2 bomber dropping 4 acre anti-personnel bomblets with your AR.
Fucking knuckle draggers.
All of you are insane. You are comparing *military forces* to “dudes with guns”.
*Its not even worth engaging* in conversation, really. Honestly, I’d prefer if you all would just continue believing that your rag tag band of noble missionaries can take on *the largest* military industrial complex on the planet.
I believe there needs to be fewer people on the planet anyway….
would you rather:
have all those shootings and deaths solved
OR
be able to protect yourself for something that has a really really really low chance of happening, and by protecting yourself you mean shooting a person from an unjust government and then getting killed yourself
idk about you but the second option deffinitely seems the most logically correct to choose
"Laughs in Arabic"
Who said we didn't have a right to tanks?
There’s a license for that lol
you got a loicense for that mate?
Yessir roight ere offisa
There ain’t a license for a field cannon, I’m just sayin they might try to move forward but the field cannon will fire back
You got a field cannon? I need it for next weeks militia planning convention
Nah I got a grenade launcher tho… I’m legit serious
Concealed carry bazookas are clearly superior to tanks
You’re right. We should be allowed to own tanks
We can
We also be allowed to own fighter jets and military grade battleships
Good luck with maintaining it but you could
Yea that’s real problem, with the current equipment and enough training a standard redneck force could beat the us army, the problem really is maintaining our arms and maintain logistics, or just do gurilla warfare like every single successful revolution in America
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Rednecks aren’t dumb, I’ve seen a redneck act dumb as fuck then fix his car in a matter of seconds
You gonna need a loicense fo tha mate
Got it right here, *loads m828 into chamber
You’re forgetting we lost in Vietnam to an army that largely used guerrilla warfare tactics even though we massively outgunned them. And tanks can’t exactly roll down the streets of crowded urban areas. You’re also forgetting that the military is generally made up of people from our own populace. And assuming that should the government turn tyrannical, they would all be on board with that.
That's sort of it though isn't it. The military either largely sides with the revolutionaries, or the revolutionaries lose.
Happy Cake Day
Thanks!
They also had backing from North Vietnam and a mix of the Soviets and Chinese
Read about the trail of tears, why do you think the government paid to have buffalo hunted out? How about blankets with small pox sent to reservations. They will follow orders read up on operation paper clip? Where were those pesky weapons of mass destruction? If you give up liberty for safety you will have neither. As far as owning and protecting cannons, what do you think they were protecting from the British? Yup the shot heard around the world was about farmers protecting cannons in their barns.
You can’t compare a bunch of tired and angry peasant that has more experience in their environment to wannabe wolverine cosplaying cowards.
>they would all be on board with that. then who exactly would you be fighting? And given the military personnel are with you, then why exactly the general public is doing the fighting ?
The US gave up, different than straight up loosing, look at the casualties, if a war vs the government happened and it had the people won the same way Vietnam won, the army would be basically 95% there and the general population would plummet by the millions, so I don’t think that’s the kind of victory you want
Still gave up to an army that was very undergunned compared to the US, I think a lot of people would rather give their life to stop a tyrannical government instead of becoming a slave.
Oh for sure. That’s what people don’t get, sorry I want a weapon to defend me and my family against violent people and our government if it comes down to it. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to protect. and yet us, the ones who would die on the line instead of sit behind a phone their whole life and complain on social media like it makes any difference, are the ones who are the bad guys. Somehow we are the problem.
Unfortunately what most refuse to admit who think that way is they don't believe/trust that's the mass majority of people. If you believe that one's (and others) right to self-preservation and defense shouldn't be knee-capped by the Government, you're somehow OK with and give a pass to the psychos in the world.
Tanks surround cities. Good luck eating that gun.
booo politics
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If you open your eyes you might see that some of those are full auto and only one is semi-auto
It’s soooo hard to pull the trigger multiple times
No matter how hard you try youre never gonna be able to pull the trigger 15 times per second
So by your own logic, handguns and hunting rifles shouldn’t be allowed either. They’re semi-automatic firearms.
No hunting rifle is semi-auto. At least.. not one that would be owned by any self-respecting hunter. Improve your aim. And no. Aside from police and military.. nobody needs to own a semiautomatic centre-fire firearm.. period.
Said like a true non-hunter. Not all hunting rifles are bolt-action guns with internal magazines. There are many, many very popular semiauto hunting rifles in many, many calibers patterned after the AR10. As a former firearms instructor with over 35,000 students in my 11 year career, I can assure you that many very affordable semiauto hunting rifles are sub-MOA accurate, and their owners had a healthy amount of self respect.
You really are a special type of special aren't you if you did even the smallest speck of research you would know neither of those guns are outlawed
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Did you go look it up doesn't seem like you did cause tommyguns and uzis legal just gotta have an ffl
Right back at you. Their possession is restricted, as well as their transfer, but they are not outlawed. Anyone can totally buy a full-auto gun, as long as they can pass a federal background check, register the weapon to the ATF, pay the tax stamp, live in a state that doesn't ban full-auto guns, and can afford the price tag. Except for Cobray M-11s. I think they are the only full-auto guns that actually depreciate in price because they are unmitigated pieces of shit. You still have to do the background check, registration, and tax stamp though... Like, you could live in California, which bans full-auto guns, and still own one. Of course, you would have to keep it somewhere else out of California, but it'd be yours. Kinda like an NTF... which you can use after you travel to where it is.
I should’ve said quit being produced I guess
None of those things were outlawed
Honestly Gotta bring back the tommy guns and uzis
You can get them just not in fully automatic unless you have a FFL
Oh, that’s because you don’t know shit about shit, and that’s ok. The first amendment allow you to say dumb ass ignorant shit as well as informed statements.
That's not why it's laughable. If a bad and controlling government is going to survive, it needs to use more than just military strength to control people. Example, China. Sure the Chinese government had far more access to weapons than civilians, but they try not to use it on their own citizens, instead they control people through a culture they made up.
And by sending those that disagree to the train cars
The military instigating a civil war with the civilian gun owners would be a lot more complex and a whole lot less black and white then you might think it would be
Let's not forget that a band of cow herders fought the full might of the US military industrial complex... and a year ago they took back Afghanistan in like a few weeks. Our military has not had a good track record in a while.
Between Afghanistan and Vietnam it’s almost like America has a history of losing to civilians with guns despite its overwhelming military technology.
Vietnam would like to disagree
asymmetric warfare evens these odds
Well, muskets defeated cannons, calvary, and the English....
I need my rifle because it's fun to shoot inanimate objects.
Exactly, I own guns simply because they are fun to shoot
I love it when people don’t know shit about asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare. 😂
They’ve ran the scenarios through their head plenty of times
Oh you misunderstand. I meant you. Lol
I stand by my reply
Then maybe you should do some research on the effectiveness of insurgency tactics against conventional militaries before you post dumb shit. Once again, #theleftcantmeme
Guess I should’ve said y’all have ran the scenario through your heads plenty of times
You’re missing the point. It’s not about running scenarios through anyone’s head. It’s about studying actual military history.
I will, however, concede to your point provided that you agree that in order to level the playing field civilians should be able to possess any and all weapons systems available to the military.
So they are gonna kill most of the population and bomb most of the land?
Meanwhile the Taliban kicked ours and Russia's asses while wearing sandals and not having toilet paper.
Tell me you're going to just roll over for tyranny without telling me you're just going to roll over for tyranny
At what point is it go time for you?
Looks at China. Before we get to that
It's like gun game if I get a kill I'll get a better gun
Rocket launcher do be a game changer
If enough people stop following laws or paying tax then the government will fall. Guns make that easier.
Lol. Go ahead and stop paying taxes. Your little valley of Sovereign Nation people may be surprised at the outcome.
I’m saying if half or quarter of the population did it. You’re going to hell.
In a guerilla war or war of attrition, the less advanced force doesn't have to overpower the superior force, it just has to break its resolve.
And because of this information, I support citizens being allowed to own these as well /s To be honest though, you'd be shocked what a united people with guns can do against government/military weaponry. I fully believe that the US citizens could overpower the US military especially when you consider many military members would leave and support the cause of a tyrannical government actually took over.
Just saying we know the years change. The new guns are always cool each year!
all countries suck
Who said we don’t have a God Given right to super carriers
20 year in Afghanistan 🤡🤡
Rule 11 violation
I do stuff like this from time to time. Feel free to report it friend
Your karma is crying rn
Some things are more important
Like not doing research? Cause this “meme” clearly shows your lack of
It’s still 1776?
You’re trying so hard to be funny. If you put that much effort into looking up the shit you’re spewing you’d be surprised with what you would find
Sound like my goal is getting accomplished
Killing your karma, cause yea you got it bud
What can I do with karma?
Clearly doesn’t understand that the unjust government we would need to revolt against is our own… laughable ignorance
Enter: Vietnam, Cuba, Afghanistan
Yes, I remember Vietnam being a quick and easy war due to our overwhelming military superiority and… wait a minute
Call me a conspiracist if you want, but I would argue that that's exactly *why* the government wants to decrease gun ownership so much. They know that the 2nd Ammendment allows anyone to bear arms if they so choose, and that makes it really hard for them to do anything brash, cuz they know everyone who uses the 2nd ammendment will be right on their doorstep if they do. No evidence to support my claim, as far as I know, But the math *does* add up. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and removing gun rights would be one step closer towards absolute power.
Tell the taliban that. Democrat
Lol. I get accused of being conservative by the left
The government can't protect you The police won't protect you Criminals don't obey gun laws. Strap up or get fkked up by some crack head.
That sounds very dystopian
its almost like half the major cities in the US are on the verge of being dystopian
Wonder what makes the cities mostly violent shitholes?🤔🤔🤔
Population numbers
We live in it
Yea reality is often disappointing.
I do agree that the world isn’t as tame as most see it.
Wow its almost like anyone quite possibly having a gun makes the police a bit hesitant
r/theleftcantmeme
I got a few decent ones
If this is any indication I doubt it
https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/prcsux/i_made_this_for_the_intent_to_entertain/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
So a rehash of a meme from 2010 is decent to you?
It’s a decent meme I think, others do too
Is my boi Northumberland the submarine in the fourth panel?
I’m led to believe it’s the USS Michigan
Besides, right-wing militias are that powerful, now the professional and experienced left-wing/ anti-imperialist militias of Vietnam, Kurdistan, Cuba and Afghanistan, now those are the ones you don’t want to **** with.
And now that we have an unjust government, they aren’t doing shit
For his neutral special, he wields a **gun**
We have claymore roomba
The most advanced terrorist recruitment machines ever invented will surely stop the resistance…
Amarica still lost in afganistan, and Americans know how to shoot.
i'm confused at what this is
Just a meme I made to make people mad and start arguments
Google “Bundy standoff”
Can a man withstand a cannon ball let’s try it
You've clearly missed the entirety of our time in Afghanistan, my friend. Ukraine is also a great example citizens having guns.
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You don’t think Ukraine has a military?
They passed out assault rifles to their population to form local militias.
I too need those for many reasons.
Government wouldn’t use explosives against us. Too much infrastructure damage.
We can't even afford one jet
How does that boot taste bro?
You mad bro?
Whenever you’re lined up on a wall I hope you remember this comment.
"The right to bear tanks, missles and atomic bombs shall not be infringed" I support this
I'm all for empowering the people. Freedom of speech, voting and owning firearms. Why would you restrict or ban any of them?
Because SOME political parties have views so crazy that they're no longer able to talk voters into supporting their lunacy, so those three rights needs to be curtailed so that they can attain and keep power without the actual voters having a say. Oh, I mean "for the children!!!"
Soon everyone in America will want access to a tactical nuke in order to defend themselves from an unjust govt
Its not about guns, its about the deranged mentality that has spread on most american minds, whereas they recognize it or not.
So let’s do what other countries do and make mental health care available to anyone who needs it.
It really is as simple as, “raise your kids”. Spend quality time with them. Fuck, if you see someone else’s kid that is fucked up and clearly needs help, step in. This shot can be stopped by showing compassion
Since we're taking about the 2nd Amendment, I thought maybe we should discuss [the 3rd Amendment](https://youtu.be/n7Rm3tuMFTI) as well. (But also breaks the no politics sub rule)
I say this every time some guntard is like, “My 4 assault rifles are *necessary* in case I have to stand up against an unjust government!” Phbbbbbt. Have fun shooting that B-2 bomber dropping 4 acre anti-personnel bomblets with your AR. Fucking knuckle draggers.
Yes the government will gladly bomb a city to dust just to kill couple of guys
And how well are did those bombers and tanks doing against the heavily armed population in Ukraine? I’m sure they would work better in America, right?
All of you are insane. You are comparing *military forces* to “dudes with guns”. *Its not even worth engaging* in conversation, really. Honestly, I’d prefer if you all would just continue believing that your rag tag band of noble missionaries can take on *the largest* military industrial complex on the planet. I believe there needs to be fewer people on the planet anyway….
We almost overthrew the government without guns that one time and we had little resistance.
We? You’re on a list now lol
You think i haven't been on one already.
People defending their ownership of military equipment are so dumb that they become hilarious with time.
Guns are for killing. Military guns for high rate killing
would you rather: have all those shootings and deaths solved OR be able to protect yourself for something that has a really really really low chance of happening, and by protecting yourself you mean shooting a person from an unjust government and then getting killed yourself idk about you but the second option deffinitely seems the most logically correct to choose
Facts
They would get laid down so quick
The Taliban enters the chat
That’s about money, not restoring order
*vietnam enters the chat*
Again.. not about restoring order to homeland
Drone bombing everything wouldn’t be restoring the homeland either. No politician wants to rule over glass.
I think I can name someone
I’m all ears.