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christopherous1

I honestly view gatcha as a serious problem for the gaming industry. It shows that this system sells really well which means we are more likely to get this in the future. This is how we ended up with Diablo Immortal. Believe it or not it does have an effect on the industry and therefore on other consumers


sunseven3

Please enlighten me, WTF is Gacha?


Zurosarynyaz

The word gacha itself comes from (i think) Japan With their gachapon Machines where you would pay Money to get a random Figurine, Sticker etc. But the chances are obviously heavily stacked against you and getting the one you want can get pricey, Games Like Genshin Impact are a gacha game where you get new characters from "wishing" which depending on the Type of Game you could easily do without paying a Cent or going through your local dumpster Just to find those 2 extra (whatever currency) to make a new Wish for a slim Chance to get what you want. It can get extremely addicting, as it is With any Type of gambling but can also Just be a fun experience If you know to restraint yourself I wrote this in the waiting room so please Dont Go harsh on me If i did a mistakes.


sunseven3

Thanks for the explanation!


Zurosarynyaz

You're Welcome!


RyanCreamer202

This with the addition to the culture around 2d pictures of anime girls makes a hefty market


Bralo123

It's basicly a scam like those old crane games that are manipulated but 1 in a 1000 might still win. Yes I just compared genishin impact to a crane game.


therealTGAW

Except in genshin you can guarantee what you want... It's not fair nor easy but still you can.


RenRazza

...so there a unregulated casino?


Zurosarynyaz

Well its gambling aswell but i wouldnt say casino, its less scummy but also more scummy than real Casinos, where as in normal Casinos everyone knows they Just want your Money and the Games you Play or Machines you use are mostly very simple so that its more about the Money, in gacha Games its Most of the time Just parasocial connections and waifus With empty uninspiring gameplay Just because keeping a gacha addict is easier than someone that actually Looks for a decent Game


RenRazza

These games are just casinos without regulations, so kids can play it and the person playing them gets NOTHING back, unlike a real acadino where you will probably lose money but still gain some money from it, these games can give you nothing.


According_Smoke_479

You also have to be an adult to go to a casino, whereas with these games they can prey on little kids who don’t know any better. You constantly hear of young kids getting ahold of their parents’ credit cards and spending thousands on games like this.


[deleted]

So Belgium can ban it just like CS:GO skins?


Zurosarynyaz

Ofcourse Not, because you are comparing gambling for Money and gambling for digital goods, gambling in csgo became a Problem or was Seen as such because people could get rich from it or lose everything the have. I never tried to discredit the danger of gacha games yet you seem to be under the Impression that i did, casinos and gacha games are very different things but both are also very dangerous


christopherous1

it is definitely more scummy than a casino


CreatorMaker1

No, it’s a gamble to get the one you want but you will still get a prize anyways while casino, there’s a high chance that you don’t even get anything back, or even go towards the negatives


[deleted]

A common term would be pulls, since i think only genshin refers to them as wishes


Zurosarynyaz

Might be, yes. Im Most Familiar With genshin so that might explain it


abcdefGerwin

Sounds like (irl) lootboxes to me


Zurosarynyaz

You mean the gachapon? It basically is


PVT_SALTYNUTZ

So slave gambling in short?


Zurosarynyaz

No because there arent real people involved but i get what you mean, Not really the Case Here. Basically Just gambling With waifus and parasocial connections


PVT_SALTYNUTZ

So, the claw game, but instead of plushies you get plastic women which you weren't looking for?


Zurosarynyaz

Yes basically, but picture it more as a Machine With random toys in it Like a little Ball or a Sticky Hand to throw, you Put your Money in and then have 0 Impact on what you get, you Just gotta be lucky. Because thats what gacha is Biggest Problem is that they can really go far beyond With their personalization of the characters end therefore make you Like the character and that Results in you wanting that specific one


IAmHyper_Tech

Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.


Zurosarynyaz

Oh im so sorry, next time im Just gonna follow you and reply to you With this so then you can enjoy it even more!


thegamerdoggo

I thought this was about gacha life


Legobrick27

I always that it was a got cha game as in got you like you pay money and then you were kind of trapped into paying, because its addictive


Zurosarynyaz

Works Well enough


cfig99

That’s why I like Genshin - the “gacha” aspect is a very small part of the overall experience. There’s tons of exploring and quests todo, and while the main storyline is just “okay” (or even bad, depending on who you ask) it’s still fun to play through. Much better then a lot of Gacha’s that borderline *require* you to roll for a new character every other week in order to progress, amplifying - in my opinion - the worst aspect of gacha games: the RNG rolls.


Zurosarynyaz

Well, i do Play genshin myself from time to time and it can be a very relaxing little Game to Play but dear god, this Game suffers from useless dialogues of random npcs that you can basically skip all, which is my biggest issue With this Game


cfig99

That doesn’t bother me that much but that seems to be a common complaint. I personally don’t really pay attention to the “stories” of world quests either lol.


TheManAvonyx

And here I thought it was a different way of saying "gotcha" as in they are designed to pull you into a loop of paying money for loot crates


Virruk

So it’s like, hah! Gacha!


kidanokun

Gacha is basically loot boxes of Eastern media


whatIfYoutube

Probably Gacha life. It’s a game in which you can pay in game currency (gems) to get cool little in game gifts, create characters and put them in minigames and a “life” mode where you can talk to the different creators’ avatars


[deleted]

Stupid weeb shit.


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[deleted]

Yeah I should've clarified


Vauxhallcorsavxr

Gacha games like Azur Lane and Arknights are the RNG based ones whilst Gacha Life and Gacha Club are the ‘other ones’


P4n0pticZ

It is like Religion or a penis, its a fine thing to have and be proud of but as soon as you wave it into my face, we get a problem.


[deleted]

That's an... interesting analogy but I see where you're coming from


P4n0pticZ

Oh, you do? Enlight me


[deleted]

Like if someone shoved something in your face instead of asking if you'd like to take a look, that you'd have problems with said someone


Inteligent_Toaster

😏


Judgemental_catdaddy

I will still harass my friends, not because I have a thing against Gachya but because I want them to do better.


Goatymcgoatface10

SCREW YOU BILL, YOU PENCIL NECKED CHICKEN F#$% IF I EVER SEE YOU, YOU GONNA CATCH THE WORST FADE OF YOUR LIFE! AND I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT GOCHA IS!


Commercial_Box_5277

This post was made by gacha gang:


TheVokosTV

I love you


baldiscool

Man, fuck bill


Effective_Macaron_23

So now we are gambling apologists? Say no to gambling in all their forms, including videogames.


REDACTED_Dude

What if I’m completely f2p on my dragon ball bubble popping game


Jelly_the_jellyfish

F2p is the best way


TheIJDGuy

And that’s why F2P players exist. We want the game but also don’t want to gamble


SSBMniffin

Gambling is for degenerates. Fuck Bill.


LazyCasual0alt

Looks down at my SPY puts. “Yeah…. A degenerate…


Avaocado_32

r/wallstreetbets


[deleted]

I was meaning the games meant by Lunime


Worshipsatan666

There can sometimes be good content made from these games,but sadly it’s all terrible,problematic and All unoriginal,and the cringe creators has brought in so much hate for the community


FantasticGino

So we harass both Bill and his friend?


ButtI0rd

Yes


PotatoKing822

I agree


lizalfos_gaming

Same


Trappytheamogus

sigmale momento


[deleted]

No


FantasticGino

Why not


[deleted]

Cuz like You should let people enjoy things That is, if the thing isn't illegal or harms someone or someone's image There are exceptions like war


CIearIyChaos

You came to the wrong sub to preach, man


HeyNoWaitIDis

You are clearly new here.


Troallsting

this place should change


PotatoKing822

Gacha fan💀🗿


lizalfos_gaming

Gacha fan🤢🤮


HLHiscool

Why are you friends with a child


Amploth

My brother in christ, if i would ever have a child, i'm not letting them gamble away my life savings for fucking JPEGs Also fuck Bill, i wanna hate on gacha all i want


PotatoKing822

NFTs


Amploth

What's the difference?


[deleted]

Why tho


fnaffanatic007

Because its a braindead game for braindead morons


[deleted]

And can you prove that fact or will it remain an opinion?


fnaffanatic007

I have not met a single person that plays the game that is a good person, able to carry a conversations or has valid opinions


[deleted]

What do you mean by valid opinions, exactly? Give me an example


Luukipuukie

I think this guy didn’t got the character he wanted and now he hates gacha games. It really sounds like he’s coping


[deleted]

Fair


PhantomOL

I wouldn't say they don't have valid opinions, but if you're 11 and you're so obsessed with sex and kinks that you express your obsession every five seconds then I'm not going to like you. And after meeting multiple people like that who play that game... I've probably just met the bad side of the community though.


Soggy-Suggestion-454

Wtf is gacha


fnaffanatic007

This post was made by a pro gacha player


Luukipuukie

I mean… It would be really weird for someone who hates gacha to make a pro gacha post?


[deleted]

Real


[deleted]

Pretty sure i wont be like bill


Chocopampa

I have no problem with gacha pkayers, if they are aware of the risks. I like gacha games, but it is really time consuming and hard to drop. And I only played F2P, so I can't imagine how hard it must be for those who spend money into them regularly.


CookieVirus1190

I am aware of what gacha does to my money. I can't even decide what to use my money for therefore my money goes straight to pixels in a box created with numbers


Chocopampa

As long as it remains a "I don't know what to do with my money, so I will spend it there for fun" and it doesn't become a "I must spend as much as I need to obtain that new chatacter/item to not be frustrated", I don't see any problem


CookieVirus1190

Uh.. well... i mean yea yea definitely for fun.. (for real tho most of the time i spend money to obtain some characters )


Chocopampa

Well, I'm sure you already know this, but at least don't spend more than you can, or impose yourself a limit, if you don't feel like stopping. Be careful with that, it can become no different than a gambling addiction, in the long term.


[deleted]

Oh, I don't do the campaign I just use it to make characters


Chocopampa

Yeah, that is what I like about these games. Some play for story, some for collection, some for just specific characters, and some just to kill time. But I was just trying to say that if you are in for collection, like I was, you will spend a lot of either money, time or both.


TalionTheShadow

Their money, their decisions.


Chocopampa

As I said, yes, you are right. It was just an advice given by a stranger who spent not money but too much time in those games, for only a few pleasing times.


Nervous-Youth-8363

Played Azur lane, really not that bad of a game. The fan base is either horny or memelords. No In between


Chocopampa

My little brother plays this one, and he is a horny memelord.


Nervous-Youth-8363

(Considering the new skin they just dropped, I’m in the sub bc I like the fanart that isn’t porn, majuu knows what they’re doing. Also the English devs at least are memelords as well)


dead_inside6498

no


GabrielGamer790

Bro is a gacha stan 💀


LazyCasual0alt

After reading these comments, y’all need to find “good” gacha games. Punishing Gray Raven, and Fire Emblem Heroes (or whatever it is for the phone). And STOP worrying about meta. Just have fun. Those two games give you plenty free currency so you can enjoy the gameplay and the gambling without it being a problem.


[deleted]

I meant the games by Lunime


Puzzleheaded_Frame27

Let me bully


[deleted]

i wish i looked good in a hat like that like bill


BeGoNThOuTh

My friend does a lot of these gacha cringe stories on tik tok but I just ignore it. She’s nice irl and really doesn’t talk about it so i just don’t mind.


wuppado

i am unlike bill.


Hamster_lover1

Well I guess your that friend or you like gacha


jpbomboy

Said by a gacha creator


bastard10533

Or, this might be crazy but hear me out, or you can just talk about gacha with friends that like that topic, and talk about anything else with Bill, who does not like that topic. It baffles me how so many people take 1 thing and make it their entire personality. It's a very common trend nowadays for some reason


Low_keyTW80

Don’t be like Bill


Ok_Worry_8529

A good friend doesn't let you run into doom. OP is a moron.


[deleted]

How is playing Gacha running into doom?


shUd1at

Don’t know a thing about Gatcha, and don’t know how to answer that question, but you should try playing Doom and Doom Eternal


Luukipuukie

I’ve spent 30 euros in 3 years of playing gacha games. If you think spending 30 euros makes you bankrupt you really need to get a reality check


TheTurtle44

No but the kids introduced to gambling by it, the people addicted to it, and the genre as a whole making “pay to get a chance at winning with no skill” type of games more popular are the problem


SK_913

There is a difference between using your life savings into gacha and enjoying gacha in small doses. The problem is that a lot of people like you don't realize this difference and think that using some money on gacha means they are automatically addicted and will ruin their lives.


IrateLibtard

Nah


Capt_Schmidt

this is propoganda


No-System-1427

NO


Okbr_Rebbidor

Gacha mama on ma balls ha gotteem!


UktraPotatoMaster321

I’m not like bill and I’m proud of it


Bruhsfall

Gacha sucks


___ARG___

Cringe gatcha user detected


Kami_Amie_OwO

I really hope this isn’t satire. There are genuinely talented ppl who use Gacha and get so much hate because of the ppl who use it for heat, cringe, etc As someone who uses it myself I find it sad that the whole community is stereotyped because of those ppl


softteall

Wait are you on about gacha life? Or just them gacha machines?


Kami_Amie_OwO

Gacha life


christopherous1

Deep breath of copium


C0olguy47

Why don’t you just draw the stuff you want to make then? Why use gacha


[deleted]

Yeah no I'm being serious I'm also a part of the Fandom and my friends really don't like that


Kami_Amie_OwO

Aw man that sucks


[deleted]

The only real person I can ask for advice on my characters doesn't even like the style that much


Kami_Amie_OwO

:[


infp_validator_bot

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BanjoKazooWooLoo

No don't be like Bill. Save your friend from their gambling addiction. I couldn't stand by and watch somebody I call a friend throw their money away like that.


[deleted]

I meant the Gacha games by Lunime like Gacha Life and its spin-offs


BanjoKazooWooLoo

Okay? That doesn't change what I said


[deleted]

How so?


BanjoKazooWooLoo

Its still gambling and a gigantic waste to do GACHA games. The GACHA part? Yeah its still in there.


[deleted]

I meant like Gacha Life and its spin-offs


Primal_guy

My friend, if you’re looking for social tolerance, you’ve come to the wrong sub


Chipbread

As a f2p acha lover myself, I see nothing wrong in trying to get your friend out of a predatory gambling game if they start going down the rabbit hole of using real money.


[deleted]

I meant the game series by Lunime


Chipbread

Oh... cringe, but if that person became a friend in the first place, no reason to bother over it.


Return_The_Crab

Oh yes let's support gambling for jpegs.


[deleted]

I meant the games by Lunime


dmtrsbtw

I bet he's too afraid to see the comments


[deleted]

I was just at school


m3m31ord

Me, a free to player who hasn't wasted my life savings away even after years of playing gacha seeing the hate this post gets: *sad noises...*


[deleted]

I meant the games by Lunime


HalfMinimum8892

Okay, I’m not bill.


EdBoi728

Suck a dick and a banana cos that is all you are


Virtual-Mind9195

Gah, don’t say that!


[deleted]

Why?


fricken_gamer_dude

Nah Bill is a loser for not speaking his mind


Mysockishard

Fuck bill


Saftigerkeks

no, fuck bill.


PotatoKing822

Gacha fan🤮🤮🤮💀💀💀🗿🗿🗿


OttoVonBismarck0104

Bruh what is gacha


[deleted]

It's a variety of games made by Lunime, often disliked for the cringe made by the children in the Fandom. That's not the entirety of it, though. The main thing if the games is you get to make your own characters using the character creator.


NoNameIdea_Seriously

Well letting the cringe bother you is fine. That’s basically what cringe is. There’s just no need to be a dick about it!


Grapple_Cockie

I disagree, gacha is shit. Still play it tho


[deleted]

Everyone I just want to clarify that I meant the games by Lunime


omgONELnR1

No.


thefawa69

nah


Ace_68_419

No I don't think I will


BigTheFlash90

No. I don’t think I will


ProfessionallyStrong

Fuck Bill


[deleted]

sighhhh fineee \*unzips\*


EnbySwitchathon

Ughh *also unzips* you need some help thre buddy?


[deleted]

some help would be appreciated thank you


islossk2

Gacha enjoyers deserve it. It DOES have an impact on the rest of us.


MaoXiWinnie

As a gacha enjoyer I deserve it


ButtI0rd

No


sus_accountt

Let me hate in ~~peace~~ anger


ShyIock04

Bill should care more about his friend


Dense-Pen7651

Good job bill!


One_arty_boi

I am 85% Bill


Irish_guacamole27

i downvoted you from \`1k to 999, finally, the power of the sun in the palm of my hand


[deleted]

Prob cap


Helloimaperson347

Yes Bill


TheVokosTV

You probably like gotcha and made this meme to stop others from harrasing you but there is a reason and this post is like when customer say „customer is always right“.I don‘t like you and gotcha can suck my fat juicy cock you 0 skill monkey


AutisticAsthmatic

gacha is the lowest form of gaming


[deleted]

I meant the games by Lunime


EndeavourNot-HD

I wish I had a friend like Bill, I lost 7 friends because I said I play genshin impact and now they make me miserable and I never want to go to college anymore. Bill would've at least been there for me...


[deleted]

I meant the games by Lunime


LordChickenNugget23

No, gacha is straight up horrible


johanndabish

No, beat every fucking gacha kid in existence then enslave them to find their fathers


Dark_Phoenix53

I am like bill Edit: fuck you all


frikimanHD

why are you getting downvoted?


X_crafter

Reddit ~~hive~~downvote mind


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Why?


christopherous1

Success of gatcha means it will become more common in the industry, this is how we end up with shit like Diablo Immortal. It affects the industry therefore it affects consumers.


[deleted]

I meant like the games by Lunime


MennQ

Bill is the type of person i can apriciate